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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:36 pm

I remember with lot of joy boarding a KLM 747-300 at SXM with stairs which especially during the evening was an extraordinary experience: it was dark yet the tale of the KLM airplane was nicely lit and visible. It's engraved in my mind, such a honor to actually walk to the Jumbo jet. Those were the days (in the nineties) when at St. Maarten there wasn't a proper terminal like they have now and the moment the doors of the plane opened you were sweating like a pig from tip to toe :)
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:01 pm

Back in the day, mid-70's. Boarding for the Air India 747's was via stairs at BOM.

I have boarded BA 777-200ER flight at LHR with stairs and that too multiple times. Its usually parked at a remote stand in the vicinity of the Qantas A380. This was when BA flew the 777 to DEN.
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:12 pm

727LOVER wrote:
I have no idea about outside the USA....but in the USA

The only one I know for sure is CLT

My analysis on others

MIA - when the 747 arrived in 1970, I think all the gates had bridges.

JAX - opened in 1968, all gates had bridges

TPA - new terminal opened before the tri-jets flew. Not sure if any airline brought in the 747 before April, `971

MCO - I think this is one. The jetways, I think, started showing up around 1976/77. National, Eastern & Delta had tri-jets in way before that

PBI - not sure about this one. DL terminal opened in 1974 with the bridges. Not sure when the main terminal got bridges
.
ATL - hmmmmm...well DL had bridges from the opening of the 1961 terminal (BEFORE actually)......Eastern, I believe, put the jetways on
Concourse A specifically for the L-1011. Don't know about Northwest Orient & the DC-10

JFK - The questionable terminals would be 1,2,3,& 4


Airports like MSY, BUF, DTW, STL or CLE...I have no idea



The first BOAC 747 flights to DTW used air-stairs as the concourse did not have a jet-way to accommodate the 747 until the new international terminal was opened.
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:16 pm

SAN. Flew with my mom on an AA DC-10 SAN - BOS back in the early 70's. Back in the day when non-flying people were allowed to the gate my sister said "You're flying on a luxury liner." No jet bridges at SAN at that time.
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:17 pm

(De)boarding a 747 with stairs is still a thing with KLM at PBM (Surinam)
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All of KLM's aircraft types can be boarded via stairs:
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Kilimanjaro

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Kigali

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Cartagena

Amongst others that is as I believe BON, EBB, WDH, FNA and ROB also have stairs (All A330 destinations)
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:29 pm

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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:48 pm

EK still uses remote stands at DXB for some flights. Quite a different experience from the air conditioned terminal....

Not sure about Fly Dubai. Does QR use remote stands at DOH?

Regards.

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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:21 pm

philvardon wrote:
I have boarded BA 747s and KLM 777s by airstair at ACC. That is about to change as Kotoka is about to open a brand new Terminal 3 with air bridges.


Yes, ACC will be radically changing soon. No longer seeing stairs up 777s, 747s or 380s. It has always been one of my favorite parts of landing at ACC. You are hit with the heat and smells instantly. LOVE IT.
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:26 pm

B8887 wrote:
EK still uses remote stands at DXB for some flights. Quite a different experience from the air conditioned terminal....

Not sure about Fly Dubai. Does QR use remote stands at DOH?

Regards.

B8887


They sure do. I borded an a350 from DOH-HKG via stairs at DOH. The stair bording gates are fun there because they offer great ramp level action views of the activity on the tarmac.
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:28 pm

Pavlakakos wrote:
ATH Hellinikon (LGAT) never had any bridges until it was closed in 2001.

I remember doing a 1990's GRU-ATH in a TAP L-1011 with stopovers in GIG, LIS and OPO.
Good times :)

Just good? You mean Glorious! Hellinikon was in its heyday in the eighties when many flights were operated by wide bodies. In those days all traffic was through ATHens. You disembarked and then you had either to catch a domestic flight on Olympic or go to the islands by boat. Furthermore there is nothing wrong having no jetways. Buses take you right where you have to go (passport control) and that saves you a long walk inside the terminal. Very few jet bridges do that. And it adds to the experience of air travel...
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:41 pm

bpat777 wrote:
Actually many of the larger airports now have jetties including: MBJ, KIN, PAP, SDQ, BGI, POS and NAS. I know STT still uses stairs.


BGI and UVF don't. PUJ doesn't, and they have heavies from Eastern Europe all the time. A little further north, BDA doesn't.
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:07 pm

lebda wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
lebda wrote:
The last time I flew in and out of SJC, we boarded by stairs. That was in 2006-ish. Granted, it was a 737, not a widebody, but all of the times I went through SJC, I never remembered a single set of airstairs (again, each time a 737, MD-80, or CRJ, never a super big bird). I'm guessing this has changed considering they've expanded quite a bit since then?


The first scheduled widebody service out of SJC was a UA DC-10 to DEN. This was around 1976, I believe. The terminal at the time had NO jetways.


Ahh yeah, I should have phrased that a bit better. I meant that each time I flew in and out of SJC it was on one of those three narrowbodies and via airstairs. I'd definitely seen plenty of widebodies there too.

But that's interesting and answers OP's question!


Yes, understood. SJC had no jetways for LONG time. I was just answering the OPs question.

Trivia - do you remember the “first” jetway at SJC?
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:27 pm

I remember flying a World Airways DC-10 is the 80's into LAX Imperial terminal and we used airstairs also flew Icelandair also a DC-10 into KEF in 1979 also via airstairs.
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:11 pm

I'm surprised no one mentioned the obvious: PSA's L1011s which had the integral stairs and entry area through the lower cargo area. Word has it they ordered them that way from Lockheed because they wanted to fly them to cities without loading bridges. I never flew on one but there are pictures here on a.net. I never saw a pic that showed what it looked like inside or where/how it came up into the passenger area

Pretty cool though!
 
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Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:27 pm

gwrudolph wrote:
I'm surprised no one mentioned the obvious: PSA's L1011s which had the integral stairs and entry area through the lower cargo area. Word has it they ordered them that way from Lockheed because they wanted to fly them to cities without loading bridges. I never flew on one but there are pictures here on a.net. I never saw a pic that showed what it looked like inside or where/how it came up into the passenger area

Pretty cool though!


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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:30 pm

727LOVER wrote:
gwrudolph wrote:
I'm surprised no one mentioned the obvious: PSA's L1011s which had the integral stairs and entry area through the lower cargo area. Word has it they ordered them that way from Lockheed because they wanted to fly them to cities without loading bridges. I never flew on one but there are pictures here on a.net. I never saw a pic that showed what it looked like inside or where/how it came up into the passenger area

Pretty cool though!


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Yes. Very cool! Thank you!
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:40 pm

Apologies if it was mentioned earlier in the thread.

Doesn't the President board Air Force One via stairs ?
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:24 pm

RobertPhoenix wrote:
Apologies if it was mentioned earlier in the thread.

Doesn't the President board Air Force One via stairs ?


Yes, usually via truck-mounted stairs rolled up to door L1 and with a red carpet at the bottom of the stairs (the usual photogenic way). There are also integral airstairs that open on the port side belowdecks.

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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:28 pm

gwrudolph wrote:
727LOVER wrote:
gwrudolph wrote:
I'm surprised no one mentioned the obvious: PSA's L1011s which had the integral stairs and entry area through the lower cargo area. Word has it they ordered them that way from Lockheed because they wanted to fly them to cities without loading bridges. I never flew on one but there are pictures here on a.net. I never saw a pic that showed what it looked like inside or where/how it came up into the passenger area

Pretty cool though!


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Yes. Very cool! Thank you!


nooooo....thank YOU !....I never knew about that :D
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:27 pm

AirFiero wrote:
lebda wrote:
The last time I flew in and out of SJC, we boarded by stairs. That was in 2006-ish. Granted, it was a 737, not a widebody, but all of the times I went through SJC, I never remembered a single set of airstairs (again, each time a 737, MD-80, or CRJ, never a super big bird). I'm guessing this has changed considering they've expanded quite a bit since then?


The first scheduled widebody service out of SJC was a UA DC-10 to DEN. This was around 1976, I believe. The terminal at the time had NO jetways.


Yep, UA did the SJC-HNL flight with a DC-10 for a short time too.

ITO is another. 747s and DC-10s were scheduled there back when there were no air stairs.
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:29 pm

AirFiero wrote:
lebda wrote:
AirFiero wrote:

The first scheduled widebody service out of SJC was a UA DC-10 to DEN. This was around 1976, I believe. The terminal at the time had NO jetways.


Ahh yeah, I should have phrased that a bit better. I meant that each time I flew in and out of SJC it was on one of those three narrowbodies and via airstairs. I'd definitely seen plenty of widebodies there too.

But that's interesting and answers OP's question!


Yes, understood. SJC had no jetways for LONG time. I was just answering the OPs question.

Trivia - do you remember the “first” jetway at SJC?


The A Terminal for AA was the first jetway, correct? I’m guessing this is a trick question.
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:02 pm

BoeingGuy wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
lebda wrote:

Ahh yeah, I should have phrased that a bit better. I meant that each time I flew in and out of SJC it was on one of those three narrowbodies and via airstairs. I'd definitely seen plenty of widebodies there too.

But that's interesting and answers OP's question!


Yes, understood. SJC had no jetways for LONG time. I was just answering the OPs question.

Trivia - do you remember the “first” jetway at SJC?


The A Terminal for AA was the first jetway, correct? I’m guessing this is a trick question.


Kinda yeah. DL installed their own jetway at gate C10 in old Terminal C. It took me a while, but I finally found a picture.

http://ktransit.com/airliners/USA/Delta ... 101-01.jpg
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:37 pm

Many years ago used steps to get off a 747 at Lusaka.

Was an old -100 or -200 from Tower Air leaded to Zambia Airways.
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:39 pm

KEF still uses jetbridges to board widebodies. Icelandair for the 767 and Wow for the a330.
 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:17 pm

This past Sunday, I boarded an AF777-300ER via the rear air stairs at TNR. I have pic of this but can't figure out how to attach it to the post. If someone could guide me on that, it would be great appreciated.
 
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Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:49 pm

Courtline (Luton UK) had stairs installed on their tristar's for quick turns at the Mediterranean hotspots, Greece, Spain, Portugal ect.
 
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:00 am

The old Dhahran International (DHA). Walking out to the green and white SV TriStars was a treat for a small boy in the early 80s. :)
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:25 am

On Oct. 29th, my flight JFK-LHR on a 747-400 we had to depart the plane via stairs to busses that took us to the terminal. The timing of the arrival - the previous LHR-JFK flight had been delayed for about an hour by some minor problem and headwinds so apparently lost the original airbridge slot.
 
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:35 pm

ONT used to use stairs to board DC-10s when they had that service. In fact, until the redo of the terminals every "gate" was a walk and stair affair. I actually miss the old ONT, with its very cool outdoor waiting areas lined by planters with roses.
 
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:26 pm

In 1991 we used stairs in Biak Indonesia to deplane and reboard a Garuda Indonesian DC10.
 
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:44 pm

BDL first started to receive like adding bridges in ‘80-‘81 but was served regularly by widebody aircraft since the early 70’s. Took many flights on EA L-1011’s in the late 70’s pre jetways where we boarded via stairs.
 
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:45 pm

BDL first started to receive like adding bridges in ‘80-‘81 but was served regularly by widebody aircraft since the early 70’s. Took many flights on EA L-1011’s in the late 70’s pre jetways where we boarded via stairs.
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:48 pm

Mods please delete. Error in posting.
 
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:46 pm

My first trip to Europe (that I was old enough to remember) was a trip to FCO via LIS on TP in 2006. After enjoying the UA 777 to and from KOA earlier that year, it was a pleasant surprise to get on and off the transatlantic A330s by stairs - even though LIS had jetbridges. My 2014 departure from FRA on a UA 777 (to EWR) also involved boarding via stairs.
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:52 am

In the mid to late 70s possibly I to the 80s DL flew DC-10s and L1011s into CAE and EA flew A300s into Columbia. They were all boarded by Airstairs. Later all of the airlines built loading bridges, but you had to climb stars or ramps to get to them.
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:05 am

I boarded a 772 via stairs at SIN for my flight back to PER. Was 1999, and my first trip out of Australia
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:54 am

Philippine747 wrote:
The remote stands at Kai Tak springs to mind. Another airport would be General Santos (GES) which has received PR 747s in the past, and it still has no jetways to this day.


Yep I recall boarding an AZ MD-11 via stairs at Kai Tak in 1995.

We also deplaned via stairs at FCO at the other end of that flight.
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:09 am

ADL also had plenty of widebodies use air stairs at their old terminal. Only one of their two gate at the old international terminal had an aerobridge.
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:32 am

The majority of 789 and 359 domestic flights in Vietnam on VN (between SGN and HAN) are boarded via stairs to this day, and this will not change for a number of years ahead.
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:07 am

Athens, Hellinikon Airport in Greece had stairs only for all aircraft.





 
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Re: Airports where pax had to use stairs to board 747, DC-10, L-1011

Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:15 am

DC-10s from IB at IIopango International Airport (ILS), during the late 70s; San Salvador, El Salvador. Everything done by stairs. Route was MAD, SJU, SJO, ILS. I don’t know how those pilots managed to land those DC-10s at ILS; 7,300ft runway, airport surrounded by mountains on one end and a ravine that ends up on lake IIopango on the other end, with no radar or ILS system.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilopang ... al_Airport

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Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:45 am

From memory I have at the old Brisbane terminal, old Hong Kong airport and Barbados. More recently I have during arrivals at LHR T5.
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:20 am

Ryanair01 wrote:
From memory I have at the old Brisbane terminal, old Hong Kong airport and Barbados. More recently I have during arrivals at LHR T5.


hell you don't have to look that far back. I've done it on an A380 at DXB. I kind of miss it though. There was something nostalgic about boarding and that smell of the
APU exhaust and actually getting to see the aircraft. I grew up on Ansett 737s, and in those days other than Sydney or Melbourne it was almost always stairs. The generation before me were taking Lufthansa 737 or DC-9s from Swiss/TAA/Air NZ/ BA or 727s and plenty of which had internal airstairs. It was just part of the experience.

But it made it all the more exciting. The only time it's probably easier is when it's raining. Other than then, and in regional airports around the world, stairs continue to be used.
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:43 am

Virgin Atlantic 747s on the GLA-MCO route used steps a few times this summer at GLA as they used the East Pier which has no airbridges.
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:49 am

Kai tak and jeddah
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:11 pm

UA used stairs on the 762 on its BUR-ORD flights in the 80’s.
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:12 pm

OA412 wrote:
The old ATH had no air bridges, so all boarding and deplaning was via stairs.

FCO and MXP both used stairs for widebodies back in 1990 when I flew through. I don't know what the situation is like today, but back then, most of AZs 742s at FCO were parked at remote stands. In fact, I only recall seeing foreign carriers parked at the air bridges at FCO (CP D10, TW L10 and 741, and PA 741).


I did TW 840-841 JFK-FCO-ATH in 1988 and in neither FCO nor ATH did the 741 use air bridges. In fact, on the return we disembarked at JFK via mobile lounge, too.

Did RUH-JED on an SV 744 in 2005; stairs in JED, too. I think that was my last trip on a 747 actually.
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:17 pm

nine4nine wrote:
UA used stairs on the 762 on its BUR-ORD flights in the 80’s.


LGB saw UA 762 as well with the A300’s of Carnival and Presidential, all using stairs.
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:41 pm

I remember getting off a Continental Airlines 747 at Denver Stapleton in 1971 via stairs.
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:12 pm

In the late 70s and early 80s World Airways flew 747 charters to Hawaii from a remote terminal at LAX boarding with air stairs

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