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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:47 pm

It would be good to see a few A319s on the PHX-ABQ flights to help compete with WN. The 738 on ABQ-ORD has been quite nice.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:41 pm

I personally feel AA need to take another look at the CS100/300. These would be ideal planes for the near-in DFW/ORD markets. DL is right on the money for placing such a large order of them.

AA needs an MD80 replacement, not every MD80 route can support a 737-800, or can be sufficiently re-guaged with E175's.


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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:51 pm

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The evening CLT to CMH and morning CMH to CLT should be at least a 319. The flight is always full, as are almost all of the other 6am-ish AA flights on AA. This leaves no slack in the event of a issue, such as an MD80 to DFW having some sort of last minute fuse issue, oil leak, gasket rupture, etc. (I have experienced this more than a few times). Would also be nice to get a mainline or two to ORD, but all E175s would be an improvement over the CR7/occasional E145 schedule.


What's amazed me is the only mainline they've had to the PMUS Eastern network in YEARS has been the token CMH-PHL E190 they've run during the Spring the last couple years and that's on a midday flight, not necessarily in the morning or at any busier period. CMH-CLT hasn't had regular mainline service since probably 2006 and the only thing between then and now was a 733 which routed PHL-CMH-DCA and had a RON in between.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:55 pm

EarlyLateORD wrote:
I personally feel AA need to take another look at the CS100/300. These would be ideal planes for the near-in DFW/ORD markets. DL is right on the money for placing such a large order of them.

AA needs an MD80 replacement, not every MD80 route can support a 737-800, or can be sufficiently re-guaged with E175's.


Adam


Especially with the project oasis 172 seater 738s. There is a large gap between 76 seater E175 and even 319s seating 128.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:24 pm

As a regular AA flyer, I am perfectly fine with non mainline. The E175 and CR7/9 are better than the a319.

The overall awfulness of the AA 319s (LUS and LAA) cannot be overstated.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:31 pm

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American is upgauging the late evening ron flight from Charlotte to Melbourne, FL and the first morning flight to Charlotte from a PSA CRJ-700 or -900 to an A319.


REALLY??? When is this happening?
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:56 pm

On a recent flight from AUS to ABQ, it was a CR9 from DFW to ABQ but a MD80 back to DFW. I wander if it subbed for a CR9 because we only had about 60 pax on board. It was like flying in the old days off peak.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:10 pm

f18raider wrote:
jb1087xna wrote:
XNA-DFW is getting one A319 rotated through this summer on what is normally an all-RJ route.


Same at LBB


DL has been doing XNA-ATL mainline flights on MD80s, 717s, and the occasional MD90. I feel that DL has a competitive advantage in airports like XNA because they have something between an E175 and a 738. Before AA merged with US the smallest mainline aircraft besides the 140 seat MD80s which were being retired was the 160 seat 738. That's a seat difference of 80 seats between the 80 seat ERJ175. Now AA has 146 seat A319s but thats still a seat difference of 66 seats. DLs regional partners operate the E175 with between 70 and 76 seats. The reason for that is because DLs pilot union's contract does not allow for RJs over 76 seats. The smallest mainline DL aircraft is the 717 with 110 seats. A difference of only 34 seats. Delta has smaller planes to fill the gap. UAs gap is slightly better than AAs. However I haven't seen UA using the smaller aircraft in smaller cities as much as UA and DL. The largest RJ for UA is E175 with 76 passengers. UAs smallest mainline is the 737-700 with between 118 and 126 seats. A difference of 50 to 42 seats. UAs void is not as bad as AAs but worse than DLs.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:21 pm

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Is it me or have quite a few routes out of CLT lost mainline frequencies amd been replaced by those CRJ9s?


Nope, that’s just you. Ironically there’s been extra mainline flights replacing CRJ 9s

Examples:CLT- SAV/ILM/MLB/TUL have all picked up for mainline flights.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:22 pm

evank516 wrote:
ritoitalia wrote:
American is upgauging the late evening ron flight from Charlotte to Melbourne, FL and the first morning flight to Charlotte from a PSA CRJ-700 or -900 to an A319.


REALLY??? When is this happening?


They’ve already been flying an a319 on CLT-MLB since spring break. Nothing new here.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:34 pm

jb1087xna wrote:
us330 wrote:
jb1087xna wrote:
XNA-DFW is getting one A319 rotated through this summer on what is normally an all-RJ route.


XNA from DFW has had mainline off and on. At one point, I believe they actually had two daily MD80s.


From what I can recall it's been years since anything has been regularly scheduled.


Correct. Apart from Walmart week every year, I believe the last mainline AA service XNA saw was a daily LAA A319 around 2014.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:36 pm

AA had three daily roundtrips DFW-HSV-DFW until the merger.A short time later the A319s and MD80s Were replaced with Eagle CR9s and CR7s scheduled within 10 minutes of each other.HSV-CLT had been US Air Express since the Fokker 100s were retired.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:31 am

JetBlueCLT wrote:
evank516 wrote:
ritoitalia wrote:
American is upgauging the late evening ron flight from Charlotte to Melbourne, FL and the first morning flight to Charlotte from a PSA CRJ-700 or -900 to an A319.


REALLY??? When is this happening?


They’ve already been flying an a319 on CLT-MLB since spring break. Nothing new here.


I didn't realize this. I wonder if they'd consider this for DAB as well.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:07 am

I can't keep up with all the changes. No more mainline from DFW to MFE or BJX, mainline DFW to SAV/GSP/GRR/CHS/CAE
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:12 am

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AA could upgauge CVG-ORD, CVG-CLT, CVG-PHL, CMH-ORD, CMH-CLT, CMH-PHL, CLE-ORD, and SDF-CLT to mainline.


I would be surprised if any CLE-ORD would ever be upgraded in the near future. UA still has quite the stranglehold on pulling people to ORD for their other destinations... if AA upgauged, the frequency would be less and wouldn't allow for convenient connections, which would allow UA (and WN to some degree) to poach those passengers. Until there are far fewer UA loyalists originating from (or traveling to), that's destined to be a regional route for AA, in my opinion.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:14 am

Antarius wrote:
As a regular AA flyer, I am perfectly fine with non mainline. The E175 and CR7/9 are better than the a319.

The overall awfulness of the AA 319s (LUS and LAA) cannot be overstated.


Absolutely correct. It's not even a contest; maybe the older CR7s are only slightly better than the A319, but the E175 and CR9's are far superior in my experiences.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:38 am

The MLB upgage makes a lot of sense. They've reduced down to only 2 flights a day, and will sometimes swap out finished A319's over at the STS Mod Center.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:43 am

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CLT-DAB (Already sees seasonal upgauges for the races, can't imagine a seasonal upgrade for the busy season isn't feasible)


Yep DAB only gets the A319 on the day of the Daytona 500 and usually the Saturday before & Monday/Tuesday after.

DAB is interesting with AA/US because it was usually a CR2/CR7 in the US days, and when PSA started to get their new CRJ-900's all the DAB flights were upgraded to them. We still see though in the low season some CR2/CR7's. I could definitely see AA upgrading some flights to the A319 in the busy seasons but I guess they have better uses of those aircraft.

DAB also has B6 to JFK with the A320 and DL to ATL with a mixture of the 717/MD88/MD90/738/739/A321. Instead of the nightly 738/739/A321 it used to be a 757 but those only come as a substitution or during the race weeks.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:18 am

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evank516 wrote:
ritoitalia wrote:
American is upgauging the late evening ron flight from Charlotte to Melbourne, FL and the first morning flight to Charlotte from a PSA CRJ-700 or -900 to an A319.


REALLY??? When is this happening?


Already running, the flight to MLB is AA1927 and the return to CLT is AA1931.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:44 am

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evank516 wrote:
CLT-DAB (Already sees seasonal upgauges for the races, can't imagine a seasonal upgrade for the busy season isn't feasible)


Yep DAB only gets the A319 on the day of the Daytona 500 and usually the Saturday before & Monday/Tuesday after.

DAB is interesting with AA/US because it was usually a CR2/CR7 in the US days, and when PSA started to get their new CRJ-900's all the DAB flights were upgraded to them. We still see though in the low season some CR2/CR7's. I could definitely see AA upgrading some flights to the A319 in the busy seasons but I guess they have better uses of those aircraft.

DAB also has B6 to JFK with the A320 and DL to ATL with a mixture of the 717/MD88/MD90/738/739/A321. Instead of the nightly 738/739/A321 it used to be a 757 but those only come as a substitution or during the race weeks.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:33 am

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This raises a question as to special event profitability. Airlines have an expectation that their flights be at least a certain percentage full or have fares so high that they cover their costs.

I recognize the appeal of bringing a lot of folks into a city for a special event (SDF for the Kentucky Derby, IND for the Indianapolis 500, DCA/IAD/BWI for presidential inaugurations, etc.), but the flight that is added or "upgauged" to go from DFW-SDF has to turn around 1 hour later and fly SDF-DFW. If a route that historically only had 100 passengers on that flight and, hence, matched to an A-319 is suddenly an A-321 with 181 seats, your costs have gone up significantly. Now I do remember in years past that certain airlines offered "get out of town" fares which tried to fill some of the empty seats for residents living in the "host" city, but I can't imagine that the fares were all that successful. Or, maybe they were?


AT SBN for ND Football Delta will usually fly a B717 from each of their hubs of ATL/DTW/MSP on the last flights on the Saturday of the game and then fly them out on Sunday morning. They used to use A320's but do not have use of the gates that can handle them. Most of the time those 717's would have 84 or so passengers on board especially from ATL. They would all go out full on Sunday. They would also fly a Friday evening 717 or A320 flight from LGA and it would go out mid morning Sunday. I see the point and I just wanted to know if AA upguages aircraft for special events.
 
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:15 am

I know Ive seen upgauging for Superbowl.
 
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Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:15 am

There was upgauging for the Final 4 this year in SAT. But obviously that was only planned a few days in advance.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:06 pm

[quote="SyracuseAvGeek

Do they have mainline on ORD-BUF/SYR/ROC?[/quote]

No they don't. If I had to guess I would say BUF would get it first, then maybe ALB and ROC. Most likely not SYR, SYR can't even support 1x daily with United like ALB, BUF, and ROC do. UNITED did 1x daily mainline last summer to SYR but this summer it's only on on Sunday's in which means it probably didn't do well.[/quote]

UA is just not as strong in SYR as they are in ROC. However AA is weaker in ROC than SYR. ROC does not even have mainline in ROC while they do in SYR. I thing the priority for AA in upstate is BUF, ALB, SYR then last ROC.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:15 pm

DeltaRules wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
evank516 wrote:
CLT-DAB (Already sees seasonal upgauges for the races, can't imagine a seasonal upgrade for the busy season isn't feasible)


Yep DAB only gets the A319 on the day of the Daytona 500 and usually the Saturday before & Monday/Tuesday after.

DAB is interesting with AA/US because it was usually a CR2/CR7 in the US days, and when PSA started to get their new CRJ-900's all the DAB flights were upgraded to them. We still see though in the low season some CR2/CR7's. I could definitely see AA upgrading some flights to the A319 in the busy seasons but I guess they have better uses of those aircraft.

DAB also has B6 to JFK with the A320 and DL to ATL with a mixture of the 717/MD88/MD90/738/739/A321. Instead of the nightly 738/739/A321 it used to be a 757 but those only come as a substitution or during the race weeks.
CLT-DAB actually started on the E175 before shifting over to CRJs.

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Ah interesting. Would love to see them come back, although the CRJ-900's aren't bad.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:32 pm

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DeltaRules wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:

Yep DAB only gets the A319 on the day of the Daytona 500 and usually the Saturday before & Monday/Tuesday after.

DAB is interesting with AA/US because it was usually a CR2/CR7 in the US days, and when PSA started to get their new CRJ-900's all the DAB flights were upgraded to them. We still see though in the low season some CR2/CR7's. I could definitely see AA upgrading some flights to the A319 in the busy seasons but I guess they have better uses of those aircraft.

DAB also has B6 to JFK with the A320 and DL to ATL with a mixture of the 717/MD88/MD90/738/739/A321. Instead of the nightly 738/739/A321 it used to be a 757 but those only come as a substitution or during the race weeks.
CLT-DAB actually started on the E175 before shifting over to CRJs.

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Ah interesting. Would love to see them come back, although the CRJ-900's aren't bad.


I'm surprised MLB sees an A319 right now and DAB doesn't. Then again DAB has a JFK flight and MLB doesn't. These two markets are so similar yet vastly different at the same time. MLB also sees DL sub in RJs from time to time and DAB is a solid mainline station for DL.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:23 pm

evank516 wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
CLT-DAB actually started on the E175 before shifting over to CRJs.

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Ah interesting. Would love to see them come back, although the CRJ-900's aren't bad.


I'm surprised MLB sees an A319 right now and DAB doesn't. Then again DAB has a JFK flight and MLB doesn't. These two markets are so similar yet vastly different at the same time. MLB also sees DL sub in RJs from time to time and DAB is a solid mainline station for DL.


Yeah it's interesting to see the difference. With DAB there are A LOT of Delta FF's. AA on the overhand is mainly leisure/non-rev traffic.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:37 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
evank516 wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:

Ah interesting. Would love to see them come back, although the CRJ-900's aren't bad.


I'm surprised MLB sees an A319 right now and DAB doesn't. Then again DAB has a JFK flight and MLB doesn't. These two markets are so similar yet vastly different at the same time. MLB also sees DL sub in RJs from time to time and DAB is a solid mainline station for DL.


Yeah it's interesting to see the difference. With DAB there are A LOT of Delta FF's. AA on the overhand is mainly leisure/non-rev traffic.


The other interesting point is that MLB is down to 2 flights today. One is mainline, the other is Eagle. CLT-DAB usually holds down about 4 daily flights to CLT, so frequency is higher than MLB.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:06 am

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washingtonflyer wrote:
This raises a question as to special event profitability. Airlines have an expectation that their flights be at least a certain percentage full or have fares so high that they cover their costs.

I recognize the appeal of bringing a lot of folks into a city for a special event (SDF for the Kentucky Derby, IND for the Indianapolis 500, DCA/IAD/BWI for presidential inaugurations, etc.), but the flight that is added or "upgauged" to go from DFW-SDF has to turn around 1 hour later and fly SDF-DFW. If a route that historically only had 100 passengers on that flight and, hence, matched to an A-319 is suddenly an A-321 with 181 seats, your costs have gone up significantly. Now I do remember in years past that certain airlines offered "get out of town" fares which tried to fill some of the empty seats for residents living in the "host" city, but I can't imagine that the fares were all that successful. Or, maybe they were?


AT SBN for ND Football Delta will usually fly a B717 from each of their hubs of ATL/DTW/MSP on the last flights on the Saturday of the game and then fly them out on Sunday morning. They used to use A320's but do not have use of the gates that can handle them. Most of the time those 717's would have 84 or so passengers on board especially from ATL. They would all go out full on Sunday. They would also fly a Friday evening 717 or A320 flight from LGA and it would go out mid morning Sunday. I see the point and I just wanted to know if AA upguages aircraft for special events.


American added an additional CRJ700 flight, Flight 3905 at 3PM on Friday August 31'st from DFW-SBN to handle overflow traffic for the ND-Michigan Football home opener.
 
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Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:20 pm

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I personally feel AA need to take another look at the CS100/300. These would be ideal planes for the near-in DFW/ORD markets. DL is right on the money for placing such a large order of them.

AA needs an MD80 replacement, not every MD80 route can support a 737-800, or can be sufficiently re-guaged with E175's.

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AA could also possibly order Boeing 737 MAX 7 planes to fill in the void left behind by the MD-80 retirement. The Boeing 737 MAX 7 in a 2-class configuration would have somewhere around 130-136 seats (16 F, 24 MCE, 90-96 Main Cabin). The 737 MAX 7 planes are also much more fuel efficient than the MD-80 planes that AA is retiring.

Will AA order 737 MAX 7 or CS300 planes to replace MD-80's?
 
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I actually really like PSA’s new CR9s, and actually prefer them to the E75s now. They are incredibly roomy in Y. I am 6ft3in and I have no problem crossing my legs in the Main Cabin.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:30 pm

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evank516 wrote:
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Ah interesting. Would love to see them come back, although the CRJ-900's aren't bad.


I'm surprised MLB sees an A319 right now and DAB doesn't. Then again DAB has a JFK flight and MLB doesn't. These two markets are so similar yet vastly different at the same time. MLB also sees DL sub in RJs from time to time and DAB is a solid mainline station for DL.


Yeah it's interesting to see the difference. With DAB there are A LOT of Delta FF's. AA on the overhand is mainly leisure/non-rev traffic.


Of course there are tons of Delta FF's in DAB given the airport's rocky history with air service in the post-deregulation era. It's the only airline that offered uninterrupted air service there since 1979. Both US and AA flew the coup for quite some time before reappearing 12 and what, 18 years later respectively?

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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:16 am

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The evening CLT to CMH and morning CMH to CLT should be at least a 319. The flight is always full, as are almost all of the other 6am-ish AA flights on AA. This leaves no slack in the event of a issue, such as an MD80 to DFW having some sort of last minute fuse issue, oil leak, gasket rupture, etc. (I have experienced this more than a few times). Would also be nice to get a mainline or two to ORD, but all E175s would be an improvement over the CR7/occasional E145 schedule.


Your wish is their command, Effective 10/04/18 the last flight from CLT and the first flight from CMH to CLT have been upgauged to A-319. Also on that date AA upgauges another CMH-DFW flight to 738. Only 2 of the 5 flights to DFW will be on MD80.


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Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:21 am

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CLT-ROC. Not sure why AA pulled mainline completely out of Rochester...


AA used to run two daily ROC-CLT 319's in the summer. Monroe County wanted more frequency, and so AA changed it to 4x mix of E75 and CR9, which is roughly the same capacity.

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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:28 am

miaami wrote:
brooklynchris13 wrote:
The evening CLT to CMH and morning CMH to CLT should be at least a 319. The flight is always full, as are almost all of the other 6am-ish AA flights on AA. This leaves no slack in the event of a issue, such as an MD80 to DFW having some sort of last minute fuse issue, oil leak, gasket rupture, etc. (I have experienced this more than a few times). Would also be nice to get a mainline or two to ORD, but all E175s would be an improvement over the CR7/occasional E145 schedule.


Your wish is their command, Effective 10/04/18 the last flight from CLT and the first flight from CMH to CLT have been upgauged to A-319. Also on that date AA upgauges another CMH-DFW flight to 738. Only 2 of the 5 flights to DFW will be on MD80.


AA 415 CLT 10:27p CMH 11:47p A319

AA 421 CMH 05:10a CLT 06:34a A319


Nice find, thanks for this! I'm occasionally on this late flight so, while I do like the E75, the mainline turn will be nice for a change.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:41 am

evank516 wrote:
bridge29 wrote:
I would like to see AA upgauge to at least all two-class aircraft on ORD-MDT, if not mainline. UA currently runs at least 1 mainline on ORD-MDT which goes up to 2 mainline per day during some parts of the year.


Do they have mainline on ORD-BUF/SYR/ROC?


In ROC,we didn't get out mainline to CLT this Summer. All 'Eagle'
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:51 pm

I'd like to see at least one mainline on CLT-MKE, maybe even PHL-MKE. Also, if UA can mix a/c types on ORD-MKE, why can't AA?
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:56 pm

miaami wrote:
brooklynchris13 wrote:
The evening CLT to CMH and morning CMH to CLT should be at least a 319. The flight is always full, as are almost all of the other 6am-ish AA flights on AA. This leaves no slack in the event of a issue, such as an MD80 to DFW having some sort of last minute fuse issue, oil leak, gasket rupture, etc. (I have experienced this more than a few times). Would also be nice to get a mainline or two to ORD, but all E175s would be an improvement over the CR7/occasional E145 schedule.


Your wish is their command, Effective 10/04/18 the last flight from CLT and the first flight from CMH to CLT have been upgauged to A-319. Also on that date AA upgauges another CMH-DFW flight to 738. Only 2 of the 5 flights to DFW will be on MD80.


AA 415 CLT 10:27p CMH 11:47p A319

AA 421 CMH 05:10a CLT 06:34a A319


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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:54 pm

It wasn't that many years ago that ORD-ATL was all RJ. Now, I think half of the scheduled flights are mainline aircraft. ORD-IAH used to be all CRJ700s, all E175s, or a combination of the two. A738 replaced one of the RJs a while back, and a second 738 will start in the future.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:49 pm

SRQ-CLT could use a one or two mainline flights per day.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:48 pm

I was on an AA nonstop from DFW-TVC that was full, and AA could possibly either add a 2nd DFW-TVC nonstop or upgauge DFW-TVC nonstop service to an A319.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:17 pm

It’s worth noting that, as of recent, ELP-ORD has been upgaged to a 738 from a CRJ9.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:35 pm

Will be curious to see if AA has a competitive response to DL going wholly mainline on LAX to both SFO and SEA. Those routes are so hyper competitive that AA and UA are now the odd carriers out when it comes to the customer experience.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:27 pm

jplatts wrote:
EarlyLateORD wrote:
I personally feel AA need to take another look at the CS100/300. These would be ideal planes for the near-in DFW/ORD markets. DL is right on the money for placing such a large order of them.

AA needs an MD80 replacement, not every MD80 route can support a 737-800, or can be sufficiently re-guaged with E175's.

Adam


AA could also possibly order Boeing 737 MAX 7 planes to fill in the void left behind by the MD-80 retirement. The Boeing 737 MAX 7 in a 2-class configuration would have somewhere around 130-136 seats (16 F, 24 MCE, 90-96 Main Cabin). The 737 MAX 7 planes are also much more fuel efficient than the MD-80 planes that AA is retiring.

Will AA order 737 MAX 7 or CS300 planes to replace MD-80's?


AA has already replaced more than 250 MD-80/82/83, and not one of those has been a Max 7 or C-Series. AA has 125 A319s.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:39 pm

If the rumors are true AA is on the hunt for used A319s to take over some of the remaining MD80 routes and maybe replace a few 738 routes and/or upgauge a few E175 routes.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:39 pm

CLT-PNS did have two A319's on it this winter but its back to all CR9s it looks like. OKC also had an A319 but back to CR9/CR7
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:08 am

Miamiairport wrote:
If the rumors are true AA is on the hunt for used A319s to take over some of the remaining MD80 routes and maybe replace a few 738 routes and/or upgauge a few E175 routes.

That makes a lot of sense. In my opinion, AA hasn’t probably missed a bit of an opportunity with used aircraft. Look at Deltas fleet
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:43 pm

packcheer wrote:
AA just started MD-80's on DFW to CAE. This was previously all E170.


I've seen A319s on CAE-DFW recently. Same with SAV-DFW, another route that usually on the S80. It's actually a decline in seats, from 140 to 128.
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:55 am

PHL-ROC sees one A319 roundtrip starting 4/2. That's good to see -- this route has been all Piedmont E145's for a while now.
 
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Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:58 am

MFE is back to one MD80, rest are e175 or cr9's.

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