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The Boeing Pelican ULTRA

Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:52 pm

Anything new on the The Boeing Pelican ULTRA ground effect fixed-wing aircraft or is it a totally abandoned project ?

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Re: The Boeing Pelican ULTRA

Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:36 pm

I know it's wikipedia but......

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Pelican
 
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Re: The Boeing Pelican ULTRA

Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:15 pm

It appears there's been nothing new since the middle of the last decade. :(

Someone's probably had this thought before, but it would be nice if an airplane OEM used a pie-in-the-sky concept like this in their production system. Maybe after building a handful for lugging fuselage/wing parts to their FALs using conventional flying methods, they could build a spare or two to test wing-in-ground flying and propfan operations. They'd likely learn more from that than from using Dreamlifters and Belugas.
 
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Re: The Boeing Pelican ULTRA

Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:31 pm

I hadn't heard of this before. Clearly, unless the US military funds this R&D, nobody will, as it has no stand alone business case.
As outlandish as the theoretical specs sound (among them, 10,000nm of range!), the only one that I actually have sincere doubts about is the claim of holding 20 shipping containers in the wings! The wings!!!
 
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Re: The Boeing Pelican ULTRA

Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:16 am

FlyHappy wrote:
I hadn't heard of this before. Clearly, unless the US military funds this R&D, nobody will, as it has no stand alone business case.
As outlandish as the theoretical specs sound (among them, 10,000nm of range!), the only one that I actually have sincere doubts about is the claim of holding 20 shipping containers in the wings! The wings!!!


An airplane loses a lot of drag in and creates tons of lift in ground effect. I'd be more concerned with the type of runway that would be needed for such a massive airplane - 500ft wingspan.
 
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Re: The Boeing Pelican ULTRA

Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:25 am

Mods please delete. Meant to quote another user and accidentally posted a regular comment.
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Re: The Boeing Pelican ULTRA

Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:26 am

FlyHappy wrote:
WN732 wrote:
FlyHappy wrote:
I hadn't heard of this before. Clearly, unless the US military funds this R&D, nobody will, as it has no stand alone business case.
As outlandish as the theoretical specs sound (among them, 10,000nm of range!), the only one that I actually have sincere doubts about is the claim of holding 20 shipping containers in the wings! The wings!!!


An airplane loses a lot of drag in and creates tons of lift in ground effect. I'd be more concerned with the type of runway that would be needed for such a massive airplane - 500ft wingspan.


for sure. but just to add to the mind-boggling hypotheticals, is 6500nm of range @ 20,000' ! No ground effects there!
fun to think about, too bad just an exercise....


But that is true. That would absolutely dwarf the AN-225 and potentially go a little farther on props! It may not be as fast but it would surely get the job done. I would love to see Boeing build it.
 
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Re: The Boeing Pelican ULTRA

Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:32 am

WN732 wrote:
FlyHappy wrote:
I hadn't heard of this before. Clearly, unless the US military funds this R&D, nobody will, as it has no stand alone business case.
As outlandish as the theoretical specs sound (among them, 10,000nm of range!), the only one that I actually have sincere doubts about is the claim of holding 20 shipping containers in the wings! The wings!!!


An airplane loses a lot of drag in and creates tons of lift in ground effect. I'd be more concerned with the type of runway that would be needed for such a massive airplane - 500ft wingspan.


for sure. but just to add to the mind-boggling hypotheticals, is 6500nm of range @ 20,000' ! No ground effects there!
fun to think about, too bad just an exercise....
 
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Re: The Boeing Pelican ULTRA

Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:19 pm

TsAGI's Heavy Cargo Aircraft with Lifting Body (HCA-LB) seems to be the most similar to the Boeing Pelican among current proposals.

 
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Re: The Boeing Pelican ULTRA

Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:52 pm

CowAnon wrote:
TsAGI's Heavy Cargo Aircraft with Lifting Body (HCA-LB) seems to be the most similar to the Boeing Pelican among current proposals.




Amazing, if this is to happen, to "fly" it will be an amazing machine to ser line the old Ekranoplan types.

These and the Stratolauncher are two projects worth of some special attention for being só different.

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