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timz wrote:CO started EWR-HNL around 1987-88. Don't think it ever did SFO-HNL.
You could see an eastward contrail over Oakland in the afternoon-- had to be CO's nonstop to EWR. All the others were overnight.
airzim wrote:timz wrote:CO started EWR-HNL around 1987-88. Don't think it ever did SFO-HNL.
You could see an eastward contrail over Oakland in the afternoon-- had to be CO's nonstop to EWR. All the others were overnight.
CO definitely flew SFO-HNL. I flew on a DC-10-30 in 1996.
airzim wrote:timz wrote:CO started EWR-HNL around 1987-88. Don't think it ever did SFO-HNL.
You could see an eastward contrail over Oakland in the afternoon-- had to be CO's nonstop to EWR. All the others were overnight.
CO definitely flew SFO-HNL. I flew on a DC-10-30 in 1996. Nonstop EWR-HNL came later when the runway at EWR was lengthened. Not sure when, but later than 1996 and once that happened SFO-HNL was dropped.
CO did fly JFK-HNL for a while too which continued onto SYD. Want to say late 80s.
Wingtips56 wrote:Going the other direction, I flew CO HNL-AKL in 1986. It was a DC-10, but as a standby in the center in coach, I didn't see anything of the Pub in the Sky. Or anything fancy.
Max Q wrote:YVR-HNL
SEA-HNL
SFO-HNL
LAX-HNL
DEN-HNL
IAH-HNL
JFK-HNL
EWR-HNL were all flown by DC10’s
77H wrote:Max Q wrote:YVR-HNL
SEA-HNL
SFO-HNL
LAX-HNL
DEN-HNL
IAH-HNL
JFK-HNL
EWR-HNL were all flown by DC10’s
Do you know all the destinations CO flew exitHNL at the height of their operation?
How about UA or NW?
I’m afraid I was born a few years shy of HNLs glory years.
It would be interesting to know if the legacy carries (all of which seemed to have sizable Ops) at HNL pulled back as HA grew or if HA grew as a result of the legacies pulling back service.
77H
Max Q wrote:77H wrote:Max Q wrote:YVR-HNL
SEA-HNL
SFO-HNL
LAX-HNL
DEN-HNL
IAH-HNL
JFK-HNL
EWR-HNL were all flown by DC10’s
Do you know all the destinations CO flew exitHNL at the height of their operation?
How about UA or NW?
I’m afraid I was born a few years shy of HNLs glory years.
It would be interesting to know if the legacy carries (all of which seemed to have sizable Ops) at HNL pulled back as HA grew or if HA grew as a result of the legacies pulling back service.
77H
Can’t speak for UA or NW and this may not be complete but CO had a respectable operation out of HNL for a while and it was a pilot base
In addition to the above they served:
SYD
MEL
AKL
NAN
PPT
GUM nonstop and via the island hopper with the 727
NRT
MNL
Most of these destinations alternated service between the DC10 and the B747
cathay747 wrote:CO never operated either SNA-HNL or IAD-HNL...those routes were started by Aloha & UA respectively and never operated by anyone else.
77H wrote:jetero wrote:cathay747 wrote:CO definitely operated SNA-HNL and SNA-OGG.CO never operated either SNA-HNL or IAD-HNL...those routes were started by Aloha & UA respectively and never operated by anyone else.
jetero wrote:cathay747 wrote:CO never operated either SNA-HNL or IAD-HNL...those routes were started by Aloha & UA respectively and never operated by anyone else.
I guess technically CO aircraft flew IAD-HNL first after the merger, but of course as United.
But CO definitely served HNL (and I think later other cities) from SNA on 73Gs after AQ.
http://www.airlinesanddestinations.com/ ... arch-2010/
77H wrote:jetero wrote:cathay747 wrote:CO never operated either SNA-HNL or IAD-HNL...those routes were started by Aloha & UA respectively and never operated by anyone else.
I guess technically CO aircraft flew IAD-HNL first after the merger, but of course as United.
But CO definitely served HNL (and I think later other cities) from SNA on 73Gs after AQ.
http://www.airlinesanddestinations.com/ ... arch-2010/
CO definitely operated SNA-HNL and SNA-OGG.
77H wrote:jetero wrote:cathay747 wrote:CO never operated either SNA-HNL or IAD-HNL...those routes were started by Aloha & UA respectively and never operated by anyone else.
I guess technically CO aircraft flew IAD-HNL first after the merger, but of course as United.
But CO definitely served HNL (and I think later other cities) from SNA on 73Gs after AQ.
http://www.airlinesanddestinations.com/ ... arch-2010/
CO definitely operated SNA-HNL and SNA-OGG. The flights were started prior to the UA merger and if memory serves, UA operated both for a short time after the merger. I’ve been told several times it was almost guaranteed boarding for nonrevs which most likely means loads were poor. Then again, that was during the recession. Surprised UA hasn’t given it another go with the economy on the up and up. There was a thread months ago about SNA offering incentives for HNL service.
77H
jetero wrote:cathay747 wrote:CO never operated either SNA-HNL or IAD-HNL...those routes were started by Aloha & UA respectively and never operated by anyone else.
I guess technically CO aircraft flew IAD-HNL first after the merger, but of course as United.
But CO definitely served HNL (and I think later other cities) from SNA on 73Gs after AQ.
http://www.airlinesanddestinations.com/ ... arch-2010/
cathay747 wrote:jetero wrote:cathay747 wrote:CO never operated either SNA-HNL or IAD-HNL...those routes were started by Aloha & UA respectively and never operated by anyone else.
I guess technically CO aircraft flew IAD-HNL first after the merger, but of course as United.
But CO definitely served HNL (and I think later other cities) from SNA on 73Gs after AQ.
http://www.airlinesanddestinations.com/ ... arch-2010/
Again, I humbly stand corrected about SNA-Hawaii, so I will therefore qualify these next remarks about IAD-HNL as being that I am fairly certain (because I still lived in the DC area when it started) that UA launched this with their own metal...763ER's. Wasn't until post-merger that they began swapping in LCO 764ER's on the route. I think they even have used the 777 (domestic/Hawaii config.) on occasion, during peak periods here and there, but don't hold me to that one!!
Jawaiiansky66 wrote:Thanks everyone for the responses. As an aviation freak, I was shocked at not realizing that CO actually did the YVR -HNL route as so many Canadian carriers were operating that route for years. I always flew CP Air orange jets or Wardair.
A thread on CO is not complete without a photo of the BRASS ASS bird in all her glory (why did they have to change the black meatball to red?!)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... N68041.jpg
jetero wrote:cathay747 wrote:jetero wrote:
I guess technically CO aircraft flew IAD-HNL first after the merger, but of course as United.
But CO definitely served HNL (and I think later other cities) from SNA on 73Gs after AQ.
http://www.airlinesanddestinations.com/ ... arch-2010/
Again, I humbly stand corrected about SNA-Hawaii, so I will therefore qualify these next remarks about IAD-HNL as being that I am fairly certain (because I still lived in the DC area when it started) that UA launched this with their own metal...763ER's. Wasn't until post-merger that they began swapping in LCO 764ER's on the route. I think they even have used the 777 (domestic/Hawaii config.) on occasion, during peak periods here and there, but don't hold me to that one!!
Pretty sure it launched on 764s after HA announced JFK-HNL.
jetero wrote:Of course re HNL at one point CO flew 2x from IAH (not sure if 2x also from EWR) as well as IAH-OGG for a good while. Anyone know what the general arrival and departure times were for the second IAH-HNL flight?
millionsofmiles wrote:What I find interesting is that Continental began Down Under service with DC-10-10s which might explain the stop in Pago Pago. Pago Pago was then dropped in 1980, which also coincided with the delivery of two DC-10-30s.
DDR wrote:Jawaiiansky66 wrote:Thanks everyone for the responses. As an aviation freak, I was shocked at not realizing that CO actually did the YVR -HNL route as so many Canadian carriers were operating that route for years. I always flew CP Air orange jets or Wardair.
A thread on CO is not complete without a photo of the BRASS ASS bird in all her glory (why did they have to change the black meatball to red?!)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... N68041.jpg
Completely agree with you. The black meatball livery was the absolute best. Very classy.
timz wrote:airzim wrote:Nonstop EWR-HNL came later when the runway at EWR was lengthened.
OAG says CO was to start JFK-HNL in October 1986; 11/87 OAG shows EWR-HNL instead..
airzim wrote:Nonstop EWR-HNL came later when the runway at EWR was lengthened.
millionsofmiles wrote:airzim wrote:timz wrote:CO started EWR-HNL around 1987-88. Don't think it ever did SFO-HNL.
You could see an eastward contrail over Oakland in the afternoon-- had to be CO's nonstop to EWR. All the others were overnight.
CO definitely flew SFO-HNL. I flew on a DC-10-30 in 1996. Nonstop EWR-HNL came later when the runway at EWR was lengthened. Not sure when, but later than 1996 and once that happened SFO-HNL was dropped.
CO did fly JFK-HNL for a while too which continued onto SYD. Want to say late 80s.
Yup...Continental operated SFO-HNL between 1985 and 1998/9.
Prior to 1978, CO operated LAX-HNL and SEA-HNL. SEA-HNL was discontinued in 1978 and the SEA flight attendant base was closed.
Then, of course, there was CO's operation Down Under out of HNL, as well as the Air Mike operation. YVR was an interesting addition, and then along came JFK and then IAH.
SammyXV wrote:Continental did HNL-SFO, I rode the route in January of 1988. Outbound we flew LAX-HNL on a Pub 10, as an 8 year old that was the most amazing thing I had seen in an airplane.
jetero wrote:SammyXV wrote:Continental did HNL-SFO, I rode the route in January of 1988. Outbound we flew LAX-HNL on a Pub 10, as an 8 year old that was the most amazing thing I had seen in an airplane.
How did the Pub work? Open seating?
jetero wrote:timz wrote:airzim wrote:Nonstop EWR-HNL came later when the runway at EWR was lengthened.
OAG says CO was to start JFK-HNL in October 1986; 11/87 OAG shows EWR-HNL instead..
Yeah EWR-HNL was initially flown with the 747s, not the DC-10s. I think IAH, too, when route was IAH-HNL-NRT.
Chasensfo wrote:For a breif period in 95/96, Continental's SFO-HNL was flown with 747-200s(perhaps it was an Air Mike route, but some 747s had "Micronesia" titles and some didn't)
Chasensfo wrote:For a breif period in 95/96, Continental's SFO-HNL was flown with 747-200s(perhaps it was an Air Mike route, but some 747s had "Micronesia" titles and some didn't), then it went back to the DC-10 and finally to the 767-200 when those were brand new to the fleet. The 767 service did not last long and when it went away, I do not think SFO saw the CO 767s again until they came back with a "UNITED" sticker on them.
While the DC-10 and 747 routes may have been "Air Mike" routes, the 767, I'm fairly certain, was not a Micronesia bird making SFO-HNL a Continental route.
ha763 wrote:jetero wrote:Of course re HNL at one point CO flew 2x from IAH (not sure if 2x also from EWR) as well as IAH-OGG for a good while. Anyone know what the general arrival and departure times were for the second IAH-HNL flight?
I don't recall the arrival time of the 2nd IAH flight, but would guess it was a late afternoon arrival into HNL. Back in 2001 I believe the flight left HNL around 8pm.
Chasensfo wrote:For a breif period in 95/96, Continental's SFO-HNL was flown with 747-200s(perhaps it was an Air Mike route, but some 747s had "Micronesia" titles and some didn't), then it went back to the DC-10 and finally to the 767-200 when those were brand new to the fleet. The 767 service did not last long and when it went away, I do not think SFO saw the CO 767s again until they came back with a "UNITED" sticker on them.
While the DC-10 and 747 routes may have been "Air Mike" routes, the 767, I'm fairly certain, was not a Micronesia bird making SFO-HNL a Continental route.
Theproudbird wrote:Technically I believe the HNL-SFO was an Air Micronesia flight we had air mike hotels there and HNL