787 In Service Thread 2018

qf789 · Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:59 pm

Qantas marks 4 months serving PER-LHR

Some fast facts

244 flights
57,000 passengers
170,000 meals
26,000 Tim Tams
3,539,512 km's travelled

https://twitter.com/Qantas/status/1025184898485760000

george77300 · Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:07 pm

qf789 wrote:
Qantas marks 4 months serving PER-LHR

Some fast facts

244 flights
57,000 passengers
170,000 meals
26,000 Tim Tams
3,539,512 km's travelled

https://twitter.com/Qantas/status/1025184898485760000

Well the passenger numbers I’m skeptical. That makes an average LF of 234/236 or 99% which seems very high.

It’s more likely they did 244 and multiplyed by capacity giving 57,584 and rounded. I guess they don’t want to reveal Load Factors. Makes sense I suppose....

qf789 · Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:24 pm

george77300 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Qantas marks 4 months serving PER-LHR

Some fast facts

244 flights
57,000 passengers
170,000 meals
26,000 Tim Tams
3,539,512 km's travelled

https://twitter.com/Qantas/status/1025184898485760000

Well the passenger numbers I’m skeptical. That makes an average LF of 234/236 or 99% which seems very high.

It’s more likely they did 244 and multiplyed by capacity giving 57,584 and rounded. I guess they don’t want to reveal Load Factors. Makes sense I suppose....

what are you expecting the LF to be

Stitch · Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:01 pm

george77300 wrote:
Well the passenger numbers I’m skeptical. That makes an average LF of 234/236 or 99% which seems very high.

Advance bookings six months out were reported to be very strong per Qantas so it's possible initial demand was that high. Whether or not they can sustain that year-round...

Eyad89 · Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:13 pm

qf789 wrote:
george77300 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Qantas marks 4 months serving PER-LHR

Some fast facts

244 flights
57,000 passengers
170,000 meals
26,000 Tim Tams
3,539,512 km's travelled

https://twitter.com/Qantas/status/1025184898485760000

Well the passenger numbers I’m skeptical. That makes an average LF of 234/236 or 99% which seems very high.

It’s more likely they did 244 and multiplyed by capacity giving 57,584 and rounded. I guess they don’t want to reveal Load Factors. Makes sense I suppose....

what are you expecting the LF to be

Definitely not 100%, it does seem like a figure of the maximum capacity during the reported period.

If it were a 100% load factor, they should definately increase their prices.

george77300 · Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:10 am

Eyad89 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
george77300 wrote:

Well the passenger numbers I’m skeptical. That makes an average LF of 234/236 or 99% which seems very high.

It’s more likely they did 244 and multiplyed by capacity giving 57,584 and rounded. I guess they don’t want to reveal Load Factors. Makes sense I suppose....

what are you expecting the LF to be

Definitely not 100%, it does seem like a figure of the maximum capacity during the reported period.

If it were a 100% load factor, they should definately increase their prices.

They said over 50,000 in the video. They are just reporting maximum capacity not true pax numbers. Not a chance every flight has been full in all classes.

uta999 · Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:27 am

Anyone know what the problem is with BA 788 G-ZBJE ? She has now been on the ground at LHR since 7th March 2018, arriving from Chennai (MAA).

It can't just be RR engine issues. Did she suffer some ramp rash?

DATE FROM TO FLIGHT FLIGHT TIME STD ATD STA STATUS
07 Mar 2018 London (LHR) - (G) - - - -
Unknown
07 Mar 2018 Chennai (MAA) London (LHR) BA36 10:22 7:30 AM 7:50 AM 1:15 PM
Landed 12:42 PM
06 Mar 2018 London (LHR) Chennai (MAA) BA35 9:16 2:20 PM 2:56 PM 5:35 AM
Landed 5:41 AM
05 Mar 2018 New Orleans (MSY) London (LHR) BA224 8:45 8:10 PM 8:22 PM 11:00 AM
Landed 11:07 AM
05 Mar 2018 London (LHR) New Orleans (MSY) BA225 8:45 1:55 PM 2:28 PM 4:39 PM
Landed 5:13 PM
04 Mar 2018 Montreal (YUL) London (LHR) BA94 6:06 8:55 PM 9:35 PM 8:30 AM
Landed 8:40 AM

FLIGHTRADAR24

AsiaTravel · Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:37 am

george77300 wrote:
Eyad89 wrote:
qf789 wrote:

what are you expecting the LF to be

Definitely not 100%, it does seem like a figure of the maximum capacity during the reported period.

If it were a 100% load factor, they should definately increase their prices.

They said over 50,000 in the video. They are just reporting maximum capacity not true pax numbers. Not a chance every flight has been full in all classes.

As per publicly available data released by Bitre at bitre.gov.au, LF for the first two months of operations are the following:
April 2018: 90%
May 2018: 92%

george77300 · Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:32 am

uta999 wrote:
Anyone know what the problem is with BA 788 G-ZBJE ? She has now been on the ground at LHR since 7th March 2018, arriving from Chennai (MAA).

It can't just be RR engine issues. Did she suffer some ramp rash?

DATE FROM TO FLIGHT FLIGHT TIME STD ATD STA STATUS
07 Mar 2018 London (LHR) - (G) - - - -
Unknown
07 Mar 2018 Chennai (MAA) London (LHR) BA36 10:22 7:30 AM 7:50 AM 1:15 PM
Landed 12:42 PM
06 Mar 2018 London (LHR) Chennai (MAA) BA35 9:16 2:20 PM 2:56 PM 5:35 AM
Landed 5:41 AM
05 Mar 2018 New Orleans (MSY) London (LHR) BA224 8:45 8:10 PM 8:22 PM 11:00 AM
Landed 11:07 AM
05 Mar 2018 London (LHR) New Orleans (MSY) BA225 8:45 1:55 PM 2:28 PM 4:39 PM
Landed 5:13 PM
04 Mar 2018 Montreal (YUL) London (LHR) BA94 6:06 8:55 PM 9:35 PM 8:30 AM
Landed 8:40 AM

FLIGHTRADAR24

It is just RR issues. BA had/still have 3 787s grounded. Engines issues is the reason.

uta999 · Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:00 pm

So RR can't supply BA with 2 new engines five months later!

There are also 2 new 789's on the ground for two months, (G-ZBKK & G-ZBKN)

There's also a LA 788 on the ground since late last year.

Momo1435 · Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:30 pm

uta999 wrote:
So RR can't supply BA with 2 new engines five months later!

There are also 2 new 789's on the ground for two months, (G-ZBKK & G-ZBKN)

There's also a LA 788 on the ground since late last year.

It's probably cheaper to ground one or a couple for a longer period and keep other frames flying. The frames that keep on flying will have their faulty engines swapped 1 on 1 with the refurbished engines that came from the frames that are in long term storage. And the next refurbished engines will go to the next frame, and so on and on until all are fixed. The last refurbished engines can then go to the frames that were stored first.

RR just said that the situation will stay dynamic for another 12 to 18 months. So a 5 month grounding is not that long, the issues are very serious.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ro-450871/

uta999 · Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:10 pm

Momo1435 wrote:
uta999 wrote:
So RR can't supply BA with 2 new engines five months later!

There are also 2 new 789's on the ground for two months, (G-ZBKK & G-ZBKN)

There's also a LA 788 on the ground since late last year.

It's probably cheaper to ground one or a couple for a longer period and keep other frames flying. The frames that keep on flying will have their faulty engines swapped 1 on 1 with the refurbished engines that came from the frames that are in long term storage. And the next refurbished engines will go to the next frame, and so on and on until all are fixed. The last refurbished engines can then go to the frames that were stored first.

RR just said that the situation will stay dynamic for another 12 to 18 months. So a 5 month grounding is not that long, the issues are very serious.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ro-450871/

Since 44 Dreamliners were parked in June 2018, as a result of maintenance to their Trent 1000s, the fleet of aircraft on ground has declined. R-R says the figure "fluctuates quite a bit" as engines come in and out of shops, and is averaging in the "high 30s" this week.

qf789 · Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:59 pm

For future reference TK will likely have 300 seats in their 789's from next year, 30C and 270 Y

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 9090051072

qf789 · Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:35 am

Royal Brunei has been replacing the 788 with the A320neo on BWN-MEL so engine inspections can be carried out on the 787 fleet

http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/0 ... australia/

qf789 · Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:46 am

Air New Zealand has cancelled some flights between now and the end of October due to RR engine checks

https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/travel- ... oFHLIXoBTb

qf789 · Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:20 pm

I haven't updated the routes for the past month so here is what has been announced lately (I will try and update the front page over the next week or so)

United SFO-ICN 7 Jan - 4 Mar 19 788 replaces 789 on day 6
SFO-PVG UA890/891 788 replaces 789, 6 weekly 27 Oct 18 - 7 Mar 19, daily from 8 Mar 19 - 30 Mar 19
SFO-HND - 788 replaces 789 on day 6 3 Nov 18 - 6 Jan 19, daily 7 Jan 19 to 7 Mar 19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -06jul18-/

CZ CAN-CHC, 788 replaces 789 eff 29 Oct 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -oct-2018/

XL extends leasing of Ethiopian 788 to late August

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 9758238722

Thai Airways increasing BKK-VIE to daily (from 5 weekly), eff 30 Oct 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-changes/

Norwegian increases AMS-JFK to daily (up from 4 weekly), eff 30 Oct 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ce-in-w18/

Singapore Airlines to add 787-10 on SIN-DEL from 28 Oct 18, for NW18/19 only

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/

El Al from 30 Jun 19, TLV-BKK 1 of 6 weekly to be operated by 789 (moved forward to April 2019 https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 1560370181), TLV-YYZ 789 replaces 763, frequency reduced from 4 to 3 weekly from 13 Jan 19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-10jul18/

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -jan-2019/

Air New Zealand AKL-ADL will see 789 frequency increased replacing A320 for NW18/19

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 4491677696

Vietnam Airlines SGN-NGO, 4 of 7 weekly will be operated by 789 replacing A321, eff 28 Oct 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ty-in-w18/

RAM to operate 274 (18C256Y) seat 789 to JFK from 21 Dec 18, ALG & YUL from 22 Dec 18 and GRU from 1 Feb 19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ns-in-w18/

NS19 operation as follows

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-23jul18/

Air Tanzania begins 788 service, configured 22J240Y on DAR-JRO-MWZ

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... july-2018/

Kenya Airways increases AMS eff 29 Jul 18, frequency differs according to season

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-in-3q18/

Qatar Airways to increase both DOH-KBV and DOH-CNX from 4 weekly to daily from late Nov, 788 equipment

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ts-in-w18/

Etihad to use 789 replacing A330 on AUH-DEL between 4 Sep to 2 Oct 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/

Air New Zealand will replace 772 with 789 on AKL-YVR from 31 Oct 18, extra frequency added for peak season up to 9 weekly

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... r-in-nw18/

British Airways to add extra 2 weekly flights, 789 equipment on LHR-GRU eff 1 Nov 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -nov-2018/

China Southern to use 788, 1 weekly on URC-TAS for August and September

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... gsep-2018/

Air New Zealand RAR-SYD will see 772 replacing 789 from 15 Nov 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/

Qatar Airways to start DOH-GOT 5 weekly, 788 equipment from 12 December 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -dec-2018/

LOT to operate 789 replacing 788 on selected dates to NRT in late April 2019

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... pril-2018/

Air China extending 789 operation on PEK-CDG to end of October

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -oct-2018/

Hainan reducing EDI and DUB to 3 weekly, previously 4 weekly from 28 October 18, 787 equipment

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... y-changes/

Qantas to replace 5 of 7 weekly A333 services with 789 on MEL-HKG from 13 December 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -dec-2018/

Etihad NW18/19 winter changes
AUH-AMS, daily 789 up from 6 weekly, selected dates
AUH-MAN EY15/16 789 will replace 77W on selected dates, updated to all NW18/19

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 2490368000

AUH-BOM EY206/205 789 will replace A332 on selected dates
AUH-HKT 789 replaces 77W on selected dates
AUH-Rabat 3 class 789 replaces A332, 2 weekly
AUH-FCO EY85/86 789 replaces A332

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-28jul18/

United Airlines SFO-FRA (UA927/926) will see 789 replacing 772 for NW18/19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-28jul18/

ANA to operate one way charter flight NRT-BCN on 2 September 18

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 2753764359

Gulf Air to operate one off 789 flight to FRA on 30 September 18

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 8958759937

Air New Zealand AKL-HND 23 Dec 18 - 12 Jan 19, 772 replaces 789

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... justments/

LATAM using leased ex SQ 772 on SCL-IPC replacing 787 up to 1 September 2018

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-in-3q18/

British Airways to start LHR-PIT from 2 April 2019, 4 weekly 788

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... pril-2019/

KLM NW18/19 changes
AMS-ATL 789 service extended

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-27jul18/

Qantas adds 789 BNE-HKG and SYD-HKG service

BNE-HKG 1 weekly 18 Dec -20 Jan 19, 2 weekly from 1 Feb 19
SYD-HKG 6 weekly on QF127/128 from 31 Mar 19, A388 will operate during peak times

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -dec-2018/

RAM NS19 changes
CMN-YUL increases to daily 23 June - 9 September 19, 1 788 and 1 789
CMN-JFK 789 replaces 788, double daily 23 June - 10 September 19
CMN-GRU increases 5 to 6 weekly, 789, 23 June - 9 September 19
CMN-IAD increases to 4 weekly 788, 23 June - 15 September 19
CMN-LHR, 788 1 weekly, 31 March - 22 June 19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... june-2019/

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ty-in-s19/

Norwegian 1 of 2 daily LGW-JFK being covered by Hi-Fly A388 due to RR engine checks 3-22 August 2018

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -aug-2018/

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 7078635522

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 9677432832

Qatar Airways increases DOH-CPH to 17 weekly from 1 September 2018, all 788, mix of 77W and 788 instead of 77W only from 1 October 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... poct-2018/

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 4692222976

Air Austral to lease Hi-Fly A388 24 August-8 September 18 for RUN-CDG to cover 788 for engine checks

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 1864852480

Ethiopian revises ADD-IST-SVO to 3 weekly 788, eff 14 November 18

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 8803271680

Air Canada to operate 298 seat 789 replacing 450 seat 77W on YVR-HKG eff 28 October 18

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 0188066817

American Airlines to operate limited ORD-LAS 788 4-14 January 19 coinciding with limited LAS-NRT 788 service

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -jan-2019/

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 6567828480

British Airways LHR-DEL 789 replaces 772 on BA142/143 1 January to 20 March 2019

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/

KLM plans one time 789 service to JNB on 17 September 18

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 5142882304

Qatar Airways increases DOH-OSL to 10 weekly from 1 September 2018

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -sep-2018/

Biman Bangladesh extends DAC-DOH 788 service to mid February 2019

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 5106456576

Ethiopian Airlines ends 788 service to BCN from 14 August 2018

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... gust-2018/

LATAM to increase SCL-MEL 3 to 5 weekly from 2 January 19, 789 service

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -jan-2019/

Qatar Airways DOH-LOS, 788 replaces A330 from 28 October 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/

Turkish Airlines files preliminary 789 routes
IST-ATL 5 weekly 789 replacing A332 from 10 September 19
IST-DPS 3 weekly 789 17 July 19, up to 1 daily from 8 August 19
IST-IAD daily 789 replacing A333 from 8 August 19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-12aug18/

qf789 · Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:34 pm

Qatar also upgrading one of its flights to PRG to 788

https://twitter.com/qatarairways/status ... 5794469888

pabloeing · Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:44 pm

¿How many B787?s have DY with the RR problem in storage?

qf789 · Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:49 am

DI7074 OAK-LGW diverted to KEF for a crew change

https://twitter.com/FlightIntl/status/1 ... 4552131584

qf789 · Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:35 am

KLM 789 PH-BHP has entered service today as KL691 AMS-YYZ

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-bhp

Ethiopian 789 Et-AUR entered service on the 12th of August as ET815 ADD-JRO

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/et-aur

El Al 789 4X-EDF entered service as LY327 TLV-CDG on Friday (17 August)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/4x-edf

qf789 · Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:48 am

UA1 SFO-SIN returning to SFO after multiple bird strikes

https://twitter.com/TomPodolec/status/1 ... 8525449217

qf789 · Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:28 am

Qantas 789 VH-ZNF has entered service tonight as QF634 MEL-BNE

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/vh-znf

qf789 · Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:38 am

China Southern Airlines 789 B-1169 entered service a few days ago as CZ3533 CAN-SHA

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-1169

MoReZ84 · Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:23 pm

Gulf Air will begin Bangkok service on the 789 from NOV 15

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -nov-2018/

think this might have to do with the arrival of the 4th and 5th frame this year

qf789 · Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:32 pm

Today Qantas has began 789 services MEL-SFO, new service operated by VH-ZND (Yam Dreaming) and BNE-LAX-JFK (replacing 744), operated by VH-ZNB (Waltzing Matilda)

Flight plan for QF49 MEL-SFO

https://twitter.com/Keg767/status/1035865997582815232

wiggy · Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:10 am

great job a creating the thread

qf789 · Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:59 am

American Airlines 234 seat 788 (C20Y214) to begin serving international market from 2 May 19

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 3098469376

qf789 · Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:52 pm

Future route changes/additions list below since the last list about 3 weeks ago

KLM will operate 789 on AMS-JRO-DAR-AMS 4 weekly, the other 3 weekly remains 77W for June 19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/

Qatar Eastern Europe Changes

DOH-PRG eff 28 Oct 19 QR291/292 788 replaces A320

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ty-in-w18/

KLM S19 changes

AMS-YYC A333 replaces 789 for whole summer season
AMS-ORD 789 replaces 772 from 2 Apr 19, 3 weekly, eff 15 Jul 19 789 operates 4 weekly
AMS-LAX 789 replaces 772 on KL603/604 on selected dates from 6 May 19
AMS-KIX 789 service reduced 4 to 3 weekly eff 31 Mar 19
AMS-GIG planned 4 weekly 772 and 3 weekly 789 revised to 2 weekly 772 and 5 weekly 789 from 31 Mar 19, daily from 5 May 19
AMS-GRU day 3 operated by 789 replacing 77W eff 5 Jun 18
AMS-NRT increased from 7 weekly to 10 weekly, additional 3 weekly operated by 789 eff 1 Apr 19
AMS-IAD 789 operation revised down 1-2 weekly

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-15aug18/

Air Europa to start MAD-PTY 5 weekly 788, eff 25 Feb 19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -feb-2019/

United IAD-ZRH 764 replaces 788 for entire NW18/19 season

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-18aug18/

Qatar Airways A359 replaces 788 on DOH-MAN from 1 Oct 18, previously planned 28 Oct 18 of 14 of 18 weekly services (QR21/22 and QR27/28)

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -oct-2018/

American Airlines to 788 on DFW-LAS 2-3 daily during Nov 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -nov-2018/

ANA delays planned NRT-TPE 788 operation to 1 Oct 18

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 2464299008

Shanghai Airlines applies for 7 weekly PVG-MEL and 7 weekly PVG-SIN 789 service from Oct 18

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 9294727168

Hainan plans to operate both PVG-BOS and PVG-SEA originating from CKG from Dec 18

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 8216007681

Air Tanzania planned service to BOM from Sep 18, 3 weekly

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 0520778753

Etihad modifies schedule for AUH-HKT 789 service, now scheduled to operate 1 Dec 18 to 21 Jan 19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ce-in-w18/

Etihad AUH-HYD 789 replaces A321, 3 weekly during March 19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/

ANA plans 789 to BRU from 28 Oct 18, replacing 788

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/

Japan Airlines KIX-LAX 789 replaces 788 eff 31 Mar 19

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 4433533952

American Airlines to end ORD-PVG from 26 Oct 18, ORD-NRT reduced from 7 weekly to 3 weekly eff 18 Dec 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... on-in-w18/

Etihad AUH-JNB, 789 replaces A332 from 3 Sep to 2 Oct 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -sep-2018/

Xiamen Airlines FOC-CDG to increase to 4 weekly 788 from 31 Mar 19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... y-changes/

China Southern CAN-SYX-LHR 788 replaces A330 eff 28 Oct 18

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 5610229760

Air Canada replaces Rouge YVR-KIX up to 6 weekly 788 service during S19

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 6478772224

China Southern CAN-FCO and CAN-WUH-FCO A333 replaces 788 for NW18/19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-23aug18/

American Airlines S19 European changes
ORD-ATH, daily 788, new service, eff 3 May to 28 Sep 19
DFW-DUB, daily 789, new service, 6 Jun to 28 Sep 19
DFW-MUC, daily 788, new service, 6 Jun to 26 Oct 19
Seasonal ORD-MAN 788 service cancelled

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... k-changes/

Air New Zealand reverses plan to operate 789 on AKL-YVR during NW18/19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-29aug18/

British Airways Sep 18 changes
LHR-CAI, 3-5 Sep Air Belgium A343 replaces 788/9
LHR-LAX BA280/281 789 service cancelled 1-6 Sep 18
LHR-BOM BA139/138 789 service cancelled

Other routes 788 will replace 789 on selected days and vice versa

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... justments/

British Airways plans to return on LHR-DOH from 1 Dec 18, daily 789

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -dec-2018/

United to add SFO-AMS daily 789, eff 30 Mar 19

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... es-in-s19/

Scoot replaces 3 daily SIN-CAN (1 787 and 2 A320) with 2 daily 787 from 28 Oct 18

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 6598059008

ANA to operate additional charter flight BCN-NRT on 22 Sep 18, 789 equipment

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 4516461569

Thai Airways NW18/19 changes

BKK-BNE reduced to 4 weekly, 788 service
BKK-VIE, planned increase from 5 to 7 weekly cancelled

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-03sep18/

Air Europa MAD-IGR-MVD-MAD, weekly 788, eff

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... june-2019/

Korean Air NW18/19 Changes

ICN-HKG KE607/608 789 replaces 77W, eff 28 Oct 18
ICN-LAS increased to 6 weekly 8 Dec 18 to 26 Jan 19, 77W remains over previously planned 789 service

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-06sep18/

Air New Zealand due to engine issues leased 777's will replace some services on AKL-PPT, AKL-IAH, AKL-RAR-SYD
Frequency revised on AKL-TPE

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-06sep18/

Air China PEK-SIN CA969/970 789 replaces previously filed A333, eff 28 Oct 18

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-06sep18/

Qatar to add DOH-DAD 5 weekly, eff 19 Dec 18, 788 equipment

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ce-in-w18/

qf789 · Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:32 am

Etihad Airways 789 A6-BLU entered service a little over a week ago as EY484 AUH-BNE

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a6-blu

Biman Bangladesh 788 S2-AJS entered service a few days ago

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/s2-ajs

Norwegian 789 G-CKNY has been re-registered LN-LNV

qf789 · Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:13 pm

Air India is only utilising only 21 of 27 788's due to crew shortages and spare parts

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/busines ... tions.html

pabloeing · Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:28 pm

¿how many DY B787's in storage for the RR engine problems?

PixelPilot · Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:49 pm

Unless I missed it somewhere in the thread, LOT is introducing WAW-MIA on their 788 starting June 2019

hayzel777 · Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:53 pm

qf789 wrote:
Air India is only utilising only 21 of 27 788's due to crew shortages and spare parts

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/busines ... tions.html

What a disaster of an airline. How in the world can an airline of their size and magnitude have a spare parts shortage? Then again, this is AI so I guess anything is possible for them.

ikolkyo · Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:22 pm

qf789 wrote:
Air India is only utilising only 21 of 27 788's due to crew shortages and spare parts

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/busines ... tions.html

Sounds like the classic Air India way of utilization.

MileHFL400 · Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:29 pm

qf789 wrote:
Air India is only utilising only 21 of 27 788's due to crew shortages and spare parts

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/busines ... tions.html

Absolute joke of an airline.

On another note would I be correct in thinking that NBO to JFK will be one of the longer B788 direct flights?

Stitch · Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:08 pm

hayzel777 wrote:
How in the world can an airline of their size and magnitude have a spare parts shortage?

I believe it started due to how high AI felt new spares prices were and that airframe utilization was low enough that they had airframes out of service they could take spares from.

JayinKitsap · Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:01 am

Great thread, thanks for all the work qf789

How have the bleedless engines and electric architecture been doing. Is that the way to go on future planes?

qf789 · Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:36 am

British Airways flight BA103 LHR-YYC diverted to YFB (Iqaluit) last night after fumes were reported in the cockpit requiring crew to wear oxygen masks. Aircraft in question is 789 G-ZBKA

Passengers and crew are staying overnight in Iqaluit while BA sends a replacement plane (772) to continue the journey

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ ... -1.4821349

Video of BA103 landing at YFB

https://twitter.com/kivalliqboy/status/ ... 3993273344

Video of BA103 after landing

https://twitter.com/FrankReardon1/statu ... 8004485121

Pictures of G-ZBKA after landing

https://twitter.com/FrankReardon1/statu ... 3914127360

Photo this morning of G-ZBKA still on ground

https://twitter.com/FrankReardon1/statu ... 5387147264

qf789 · Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:39 am

UA923 LAX-LHR operated by 789 N26966 squawked 7700 for a medical emergency over Scotland

https://twitter.com/AirportWebcams/stat ... 9420614656

qf789 · Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:12 am

CA907 MAD-GRU operated by 789 B-1466 has turned back to MAD about 3 hours into the flight

https://www.flightradar24.com/CCA907/1de1e96b

qf789 · Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:30 am

American Airlines 789 N838AA entered service on the 13th of September as AA7 DFW-ORD

https://www.flightradar24.com/CCA907/1de1e96b

Norwegian 789 G-CKLZ has been re-registered LN-LNZ

qf789 · Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:55 am

Etihad has revealed its configuration of the soon to be delivered 787-10. The aircraft will offer a total of 336 seats, 32 Business and 304 economy. First routes will be

AUH-JED eff 12 Nov 18 EY333/334 1 daily replacing 789
AUH-ICN eff 1 Dec 18, 1 daily replacing 789

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... s-in-4q18/

seabosdca · Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:14 am

This is amazing work, and it was particularly interesting to see the breakdown of differently configured subfleets.

And one thing it makes clear: so much for all the angst, doom, and gloom about the capabilities of early-build 788s. When there are operators flying them on routes a solid 1000 nm longer than anything a 233 t 332 has flown regularly, it's clear that the flexibility for operators is more than sufficient. The thread helps show why the 788 has continued to attract follow-up orders even as the 789 delivers most of the volume.

lightsaber · Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:46 am

qf789 wrote:
Air India is only utilising only 21 of 27 788's due to crew shortages and spare parts

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/busines ... tions.html

It costs a fortune to lease a 787. It amazes me they just sit... and sit. There has to be a cheaper source of spare parts.

Is there a list of airlines and their 787 utilization? That would be fascinating!

Lightsaber

seabosdca · Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:29 am

It appears that "only" two 788s, ANK and ANL, are currently sidelined. ANO just returned to service after extended downtime. (This expresses no opinion about whether the in-service frames are utilized sufficiently…)

qf789 · Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:48 am

This photo was posted on twitter a couple days ago, shows BA aircraft grounded due to 787 engine issues

https://twitter.com/HofmannAviation/sta ... 9391471616

jagraham · Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:13 am

Markup on spare parts is how high? 2X?? 3X??? 4x????

After the 10 year point it makes sense, assuming the used aircraft marketplace is a fair determination of remaining value.

The real question is how many spare parts are needed? Air India's earliest 787s are early 2014 (and mid 20 line numbers, so some special parts), so some are about due for a heavy check. But they are not that old, and the composite airframe and electric architecture is supposed to make heavy checks easier and less frequent.

It wouldn't surprise me if Air India turned their first 7 or so aircraft into spare parts sometime in the next 5 to 7 years. But now is a little too early . . unless spare parts for 787s are really that pricey.

qf789 · Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:11 pm

VN55 (operated by 789 VN-A868) HAN-LHR diverted to AER due to medical emergency

https://twitter.com/AirportWebcams/stat ... 9304243201

seabosdca · Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:34 pm

AI frames are leased (all sold/leased back); I expect the lessors would have an opinion about permanently disassembling them.

They might well become parts after a typical lease term ends, in the mid-2020s for the earliest frames. 14 of the 27 788s are overweight to varying degrees, and 11 of those 14 were built before full production standard was reached. If AI is still somehow in operation by 2027 or so, I could easily think that replacing at least those 11 frames with new-build would be the best option for AI, and that the lessors would get a better return from parting them out than trying to find a second lessee.

qf789 · Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:09 pm

KLM 787-10 to seat 38 Business and 306 Economy, first routes start in July 2019

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... k-in-2h19/

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