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Re: 787 In Service Thread 2018

Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:26 pm

Seat map for Juneyao Airlines 789

Only 4 toilets for 295 economy seats

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Sounds like that airline doesn't give a CRAP.
 
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:47 pm

Anyone knows if Air Tanzania is still using the 787 on domestic routes, haven't seen it pop up or scheduled on FR24 lately.
Any confirmed routes for it ?
 
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Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:07 am

Scoot 787-9 9V-OJE suffered an engine failure while on approach to PER last night

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/sco ... ach-perth/
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Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:58 am

AA209 DUB-ORD returning to DUB for medical emergency

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Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:22 am

Air Tahiti Nui's first 789 F-OMUA has been doing several flights around PPT, presumably crew training, here is a photo of F-OMUA in PPT

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Re: 787 In Service Thread 2018

Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:11 am

Currently 50% of Thai Airways 787 fleet is grounded due to RR engines, Thai Airways is also concerned about the damage to their brand

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ed-452974/
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Re: 787 In Service Thread 2018

Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:12 am

The first 789 for Juneyao B-1115 entered service a couple of days ago

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-1115
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Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:55 am

Avianca says all 787's are now back in service (powered by RR) though they are operating them with some limitations

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Thai Airways is also concerned about the damage to their brand



Sounds like someone’s getting sued.
 
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Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:24 am

Qantas marks 1 year of 787 being in service

HIghtlights include

787 fleet has flown 14 million kilometres, equal to travelling around the world 361 times
More than 18,000 hours in the air across 2,000 flights
Over half a million passengers carried
Engineers have spent over 21,000 hours to keep 787's at peak performance
The 787 uses 2.5 litres less fuel foe every kilogram of payload compared to the 747
Over 1,000 cabin crew and 200 flight crew trained to fly the 787
564,000 meals served
5,000 tonnes of flowers flown from Amsterdam to Melbourne
4 out 5 flights between PER & LHR beat the scheduled time

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/roo-t ... 87-flying/
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Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:47 am

Anyone know why BA 788 G-ZBJE has now been at LHR BA engineering for 8 months minus her engines? Others have been turned around in a matter of weeks. Last flew on 7th March 2018.
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Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:36 am

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Anyone know why BA 788 G-ZBJE has now been at LHR BA engineering for 8 months minus her engines? Others have been turned around in a matter of weeks. Last flew on 7th March 2018.



Could be just the lack of extra engines so one is being constantly sacrificed. LOT polish airlines is now down 4 787s, and one frame keeps loosing engines for others.
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This photo was posted on twitter a couple days ago, shows BA aircraft grounded due to 787 engine issues

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https://twitter.com/HofmannAviation/sta ... 9391471616

How many globally (not just BA) of the RR powered 787s are grounded? Thai has 5 per an earlier post, I'm just curious what fraction of the fleet is down.

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Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:03 pm

Scoot is also having to ground 787's for engine checks, they are using a single SQ 772 to cover the shortage

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-interiors ... -next-year
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Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:35 pm

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qf789 wrote:
This photo was posted on twitter a couple days ago, shows BA aircraft grounded due to 787 engine issues

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https://twitter.com/HofmannAviation/sta ... 9391471616

How many globally (not just BA) of the RR powered 787s are grounded? Thai has 5 per an earlier post, I'm just curious what fraction of the fleet is down.

Thanks in advance,
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Thanks for the photo. So that's about $1B sitting right there at LHR, that's just one airline. This must be getting very serious financially for RR now. Is there an end in sight, and are other newer engines likely to be affected down the line?
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Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:06 am

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qf789 wrote:
This photo was posted on twitter a couple days ago, shows BA aircraft grounded due to 787 engine issues

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https://twitter.com/HofmannAviation/sta ... 9391471616

How many globally (not just BA) of the RR powered 787s are grounded? Thai has 5 per an earlier post, I'm just curious what fraction of the fleet is down.

Thanks in advance,
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I have worked it out that there are currently 49 RR powered 787's out of service, though do note some of the following may just be regular maintenance, I have also listed last flight by affected aircraft

UU F-OLRB 29-Aug
CA B-7899 13-Apr
NZ ZK-NZE 29-Sep
NZ ZK-NZF 28-May
NZ ZK-NZH 20-Oct
NZ ZK-NZJ 28-Aug
NZ ZK-NZM 13-Sep
NH JA808A 7-Oct
NH JA809A 13-Jul
NH JA810A 24-Sep
NH JA812A 10-Sep
NH JA814A 12-Oct
NH JA818A 23-Sep
NH JA819A 20-Aug
NH JA821A 24-Sep
NH JA822A 7-Oct
NH JA829A 19-Jul
NH JA832A 22-Sep
NH JA833A 26-Aug
NH JA834A 11-Oct
NH JA875A 20-Oct
NH JA882A 23-Oct
BA G-ZBJA 7-Aug
BA G-ZBJE 7-Mar
ET ET-ATG 17-Apr
LA CC-BBC 21-May
LA CC-BBE 21-Jan
LA CC-BBG 23-Feb
LA CC-BGG 11-Mar
LA CC-BGH 10-Oct
LO SP-LRB 12-Oct
LO SP-LRD 4-Sep
LO SP-LRF 23-Jun
LO SP-LRG 20-Oct
NO EI-NEO 16-Sep
DY G-CKMU 23-Oct
DY LN-LNC 27-Oct
DY LN-LND 3-Oct
BI V8-DLA 18-Oct
BI V8-DLC 23-Oct
TZ 9V-OFC 14-Oct
TZ 9V-OJA 13-Oct
TG HS-TQA 20-Oct
TG HS-TQC 4-Jul
TG HS-TQD 11-Sep
TG HS-TQE 14-Aug
TG HS-TQF 10-Jul
VS G-VBOW 18-Apr
VS G-VNEW 24-Aug
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Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:12 am

qf789 wrote:
lightsaber wrote:
qf789 wrote:
This photo was posted on twitter a couple days ago, shows BA aircraft grounded due to 787 engine issues

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https://twitter.com/HofmannAviation/sta ... 9391471616

How many globally (not just BA) of the RR powered 787s are grounded? Thai has 5 per an earlier post, I'm just curious what fraction of the fleet is down.

Thanks in advance,
Lightsaber


I have worked it out that there are currently 49 RR powered 787's out of service, though do note some of the following may just be regular maintenance, I have also listed last flight by affected aircraft

UU F-OLRB 29-Aug
CA B-7899 13-Apr
NZ ZK-NZE 29-Sep
NZ ZK-NZF 28-May
NZ ZK-NZH 20-Oct
NZ ZK-NZJ 28-Aug
NZ ZK-NZM 13-Sep
NH JA808A 7-Oct
NH JA809A 13-Jul
NH JA810A 24-Sep
NH JA812A 10-Sep
NH JA814A 12-Oct
NH JA818A 23-Sep
NH JA819A 20-Aug
NH JA821A 24-Sep
NH JA822A 7-Oct
NH JA829A 19-Jul
NH JA832A 22-Sep
NH JA833A 26-Aug
NH JA834A 11-Oct
NH JA875A 20-Oct
NH JA882A 23-Oct
BA G-ZBJA 7-Aug
BA G-ZBJE 7-Mar
ET ET-ATG 17-Apr
LA CC-BBC 21-May
LA CC-BBE 21-Jan
LA CC-BBG 23-Feb
LA CC-BGG 11-Mar
LA CC-BGH 10-Oct
LO SP-LRB 12-Oct
LO SP-LRD 4-Sep
LO SP-LRF 23-Jun
LO SP-LRG 20-Oct
NO EI-NEO 16-Sep
DY G-CKMU 23-Oct
DY LN-LNC 27-Oct
DY LN-LND 3-Oct
BI V8-DLA 18-Oct
BI V8-DLC 23-Oct
TZ 9V-OFC 14-Oct
TZ 9V-OJA 13-Oct
TG HS-TQA 20-Oct
TG HS-TQC 4-Jul
TG HS-TQD 11-Sep
TG HS-TQE 14-Aug
TG HS-TQF 10-Jul
VS G-VBOW 18-Apr
VS G-VNEW 24-Aug


RR is going to be writing checks until they go bankrupt again...good grief.
 
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Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:38 pm

Would it not have been cheaper/quicker to up production and supply brand new engines to all affected frames?

Airlines are going to milk this for all they can for as long as they can. RR could fail over this eventually.
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Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:34 pm

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Would it not have been cheaper/quicker to up production and supply brand new engines to all affected frames?


I imagine there are some long-lead-time items that make quickly scaling complete engine production a long-term process. I do expect Rolls and the supplier(s) of the affected components have increased production as quickly as they can to get "known good" parts into the supply chain, but even those might take time.
 
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Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:49 pm

As I said in another thread, G-VNEW is now onto its third Engine change since delivery in 2014.

And Along with G-VBOW, that’s now half of our fleet which has had issues or an engine change!

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Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:33 am

What I don't understand is why the A350 is having none of these problems. Is it a completely different engine (size), and why can't that engine work on the 787?

Will RR ever fix it properly, or will this keep happening as the hours build up?
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Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:52 am

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What I don't understand is why the A350 is having none of these problems. Is it a completely different engine (size), and why can't that engine work on the 787?

Will RR ever fix it properly, or will this keep happening as the hours build up?

RR already has fixed this issue on the Trent 1000 TEN version of the engine which is now used for new 787 deliveries and if the production capacity allows it also to retrofit them on effected frames. The older Trent 1000 Package A, B & C version cannot simply be upgraded to the TEN version, but RR is working on a permanent fix that should be certified soon. When the fix is certified all engines will need to be fitted with the fix, this will result in grounded 787s well into 2019.

The engines on the A350 are a different type, the parts that have caused the issues on the Trent 1000 are not on the Trent XWB so the A350 is not affected with these issues. The Trent 7000 which is used on the A330neo is closer related to the Trent 1000, but just like the Trent 1000 TEN they have already addressed the issues in the design of the engine.
 
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What I don't understand is why the A350 is having none of these problems. Is it a completely different engine (size), and why can't that engine work on the 787?

Will RR ever fix it properly, or will this keep happening as the hours build up?

RR already has fixed this issue on the Trent 1000 TEN version of the engine which is now used for new 787 deliveries and if the production capacity allows it also to retrofit them on effected frames. The older Trent 1000 Package A, B & C version cannot simply be upgraded to the TEN version, but RR is working on a permanent fix that should be certified soon. When the fix is certified all engines will need to be fitted with the fix, this will result in grounded 787s well into 2019.

The engines on the A350 are a different type, the parts that have caused the issues on the Trent 1000 are not on the Trent XWB so the A350 is not affected with these issues. The Trent 7000 which is used on the A330neo is closer related to the Trent 1000, but just like the Trent 1000 TEN they have already addressed the issues in the design of the engine.


So what is involved in bringing ALL in service (RR) 787s to Trent 1000 TEN standard? Would that not have been a quicker and cheaper route to take? rather than take a year finding a solution, which might not work. What if it all happens again in three years time when these 'fixed' engines wear out too.

If I were the airlines, I would not want these engines back, and I would think very carefully before buying RR again.
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Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:02 pm

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So what is involved in bringing ALL in service (RR) 787s to Trent 1000 TEN standard? Would that not have been a quicker and cheaper route to take? rather than take a year finding a solution, which might not work. What if it all happens again in three years time when these 'fixed' engines wear out too.

If I were the airlines, I would not want these engines back, and I would think very carefully before buying RR again.

There's not enough production capacity to replace all the affected engines with new ones, even if RR stops delivering engines for new frames.

And why would the fix not work? They know what to do, the Trent 1000 TEN doesn't have the same issues. Better take the time making a working permanent fix then doing some quick band-aid solution. When they have the fix ready it needs to be certified, that takes time. And then it needs to be applied to all the engines. But as all certified engine workshops are already working at full capacity it will again take more time. There's no fix for this problem that will solve all the problems in an instant. Airlines will have to ground all of their 787s if they don't want to fly these fixed engines and then RR won't pay for all the extra expenses. It's simply not realistic.
 
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Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:28 pm

A QR 788 is currently out of service at CCU after being hit by a water tanker

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Air Tahiti Nui 789 F-OMUA entered service to AKL a few days ago

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Last month one of the KQ 788's leased to Oman Air, A4O-SY has been returned to KQ and re-registered 5Y-KZH
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Oil leaks diverted Royal Brunei LHR-bound non-stop flight to Vienna.

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LOTs one 787 is back in the air. The other 3 787s will not fly the rest of this year.
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Last month one of the KQ 788's leased to Oman Air, A4O-SY has been returned to KQ and re-registered 5Y-KZH



Any indication on when -SZ will leave Oman’s fleet?
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Last month one of the KQ 788's leased to Oman Air, A4O-SY has been returned to KQ and re-registered 5Y-KZH



Any indication on when -SZ will leave Oman’s fleet?


It looks like SY was returned to KQ last month when they received their last 789, SZ could be returned after the next one is delivered next month, A4O-SH rolled out of final assembly 5 days ago at PAE
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Look closely. The name of the plane is Bo-eng, Scoot's local dialect alliterative homophone of Boeing. It means busy or very busy. This bird was on static display at the first day of the Singapore Airshow 2016...for only a few hours. When asked why the time was so short, the crew pointed to its name, saying smilingly, "that's the reason".
The LCC arm of SIA has been naming all members of her Dreamliner fleet with appellatives that are quirky at times, Bo-eng being the eighth of the line. The first seven are Dreamstart, Barry, Inspiring Spirit, Big Yella Fella, Maju-lah, Eight Treasures and Lickity-Split.
The others that followed are Scootilicious, Goin’ Scootin’, The Future is Yellow, KamaScootra, Scooti-mite, Mous-Scoot-ka, Bo Jio, Getting Lei'd, Wandermust and Fernweh.
The 12th - KamaScootra (a playful take on kamasutra) - was in dedication to India on the launch of the nonstop service from Jaipur to Singapore last year.
The final two 789s out of the 10 788s and 10 789s ordered will be due to join the present 18 Dreamliners in service very soon. Well, maybe a little while longer as they are Rollers powered. ;)
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Momo1435 wrote:
uta999 wrote:
What I don't understand is why the A350 is having none of these problems. Is it a completely different engine (size), and why can't that engine work on the 787?

Will RR ever fix it properly, or will this keep happening as the hours build up?

RR already has fixed this issue on the Trent 1000 TEN version of the engine which is now used for new 787 deliveries and if the production capacity allows it also to retrofit them on effected frames. The older Trent 1000 Package A, B & C version cannot simply be upgraded to the TEN version, but RR is working on a permanent fix that should be certified soon.

All pack A engines have been removed from service, only B, C and TEN remain.
 
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Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:33 am

Etihad's first 78-10 A6-BMA entered service yesterday

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a6-bma
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Inaugural Avianca BOG-MUC has started

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Inaugural Ethiopian flight to MAN has started

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Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:15 am

EL Al will offer a weekly flight to LAS from 14 June 19

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Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:18 pm

The 787th 787 has entered service earlier today

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Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:18 am

Please continue in next year's thread.

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