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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:44 am

planemanofnz wrote:
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Interesting to see SQ's WLG-CBR sector was at over 80% for both the Mar/Apr months - its final month before the switch to MEL.

Actually, I also found it interesting how well some of the other fifth-freedom operators seem to be doing, like CI and D7 too. EK on SYD - CHC seems to be doing well too?


Yes, although I suspect EK SYD-CHC was doing well in that month because it was the first month of EK's withdrawal from MEL/BNE-AKL, and so the overflow went to CHC. It will be interesting to see if that reverses back somewhat when EK DPS starts reflecting in the data.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:51 am

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From this document:

Load factor for QF9/10 for the month of april 2018, this is done by adding pax flying from MEL to LHR and those flying from PER to LHR (excluding those flying PER-MEL as those are not taken into account in this document since they are considered as domestic passengers):


Outbound to London: 6569 pax, 92%, average: 219 pax
Inbound from London: 6249 pax, 88% , average: 208 pax
Total: 12818, 90%

Proportion of total pax flying to/from PER (excluding those flying PER-MEL): 73.7%
Proportion of total pax flying to/from MEL (excluding those flying PER-MEL): 26.3%

This is assuming one flight per day operated by 787-9 with 236 seats onboard.

EDIT: 236 seats


Outbound from MEL averaged 57 passengers per flight for April (1715 pax/30 days). So it seems the flight is not so popular for Melbournians who have switched to LHR services connecting via SIN or have switched over to EK (or others). From a yield/revenue perspective, given how well the initial bookings ex-PER have been, the more passengers ex-PER booking the flight should in theory push up the prices for those passengers ex-MEL on QF9/10. Would also be interesting to know if a good chunk of the passengers ex-MEL is premium traffic (W/J).

If we look at February 2018 as an example (being the last full month QF operated the A380 ex MEL to LHR), total outbound traffic for LHR ex MEL was 4018 (avg 143 pax per flight) which isn't that great on a 484 seat A380. Of course what I don't know if how many other passengers were on the A380 who were alighting at DXB to connect to EK services, but if we assume that most of QF's passengers on that flight are going straight through to LHR, its perhaps no surprise that QF dropped the A380 out of MEL.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:54 am

Australia welcomes it's first service from an A320Neo family aircraft tomorrow when PR introduces the A321Neo on it's MNL-BNE service.

Aircraft is due in to BNE at 0920 as PR221 and back to MNL as PR222 at 1100.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:53 am

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The WA State Government has employed former Tourism Australia boss Andrew McEvoy to encourage more international services to PER

The wishlist includes
A daily service from CZ
A daily service from Japan
Service from PVG (MU)
Service from India (they will beheading off to India shortly to discuss with 6 Airlines)

https://thewest.com.au/news/tourism/wa- ... b88880578z


Perhaps his first action should be go go and sort out PER and its intransigencies?


Umm no, his first action should be encouraging more international services. The fact that Qantas and Perth Airport have a difference of opinion is irrelevant, that's a matter for Qantas and Perth Airport to sort out and has nothing to do with attracting new airlines/destinations to Perth. Furthermore Qantas has just made their case of operating internationally from Terminal 3 harder today with PER-SIN going from double daily 738 to a daily A332 or 356 seats to 271 seats, over a 20% drop in capacity.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:06 pm

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I'm fairly sure that's just CBR-DOH-CBR pax and doesn't include passengers originating in Sydney. I think passengers flying SYD-CBR-DOH or DOH-CBR-SYD are counted under SYD-DOH route statistics.


The flight is DOH-SYD-CBR-SYD-DOH, nobody is flying SYD-CBR-DOH or DOH-CBR-SYD. The 15% figure refers to loads on the SYD-CBR-SYD tags which in turn gives us the number of passengers doing CBR-DOH and vice versa since the two sectors can’t be booked individually.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:22 pm

qf002 wrote:
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I'm fairly sure that's just CBR-DOH-CBR pax and doesn't include passengers originating in Sydney. I think passengers flying SYD-CBR-DOH or DOH-CBR-SYD are counted under SYD-DOH route statistics.


The flight is DOH-SYD-CBR-SYD-DOH, nobody is flying SYD-CBR-DOH or DOH-CBR-SYD. The 15% figure refers to loads on the SYD-CBR-SYD tags which in turn gives us the number of passengers doing CBR-DOH and vice versa since the two sectors can’t be booked individually.


Okay that makes much more sense, as I couldn't see the data for the tags in the BITRE results. I got the flight connection the wrong way around - I thought he was trying to say that the flights left Canberra (including Sydney pax) for Doha mostly empty, but indeed it is CBR->SYD->DOH, which makes alot more sense. Nobody was expecting Canberra to be a planeload of pax were they? It's just a way to get around flight limits out of SYD.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:29 pm

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Hence why I've separated the SYD-CBR-SYD sectors. Still horrific. Shows CBR doesn't have longevity.


In fairness, it's nothing more than a bilateral-buster. The instant Qatar (the country) gets a better bilateral services agreement with Australia that includes additional "primary" port frequencies it'll go, but until then I reckon QR would happily fly SYD-CBR-SYD empty as without doing so they can't have the DOH-SYD-DOH leg either.

Also, from last month's thread:

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Minor point, but just out of curiosity, the article refers to the Q-200, Q-300 and Q-400. My understanding is that only the Q-400 model carries the Q prefix, which designates the presence of cabin noise suppression technology; or have QF's -200 and -300 models been retrofitted with this feature?

Q200/Q300 and Q400 are all valid model numbers. According to Wikipedia the Noise suppression technology was introduced on the 200/300 models long before the 400 came to be, though all “DHC-8-400” variants carry the tech, so do all 200s and 300s built after 1996.


Yep, the Active Noise Suppression feature was installed from the factory and appears in the model numbers as a "Q" suffix; so VH-SBG (for example) is a "DHC-8-315Q". Models without the feature omit the suffix, so VH-TQS for example is a "DHC-8-202".

The "Q300" and "Q400" names come from Bombardier, who have ceased to refer to the aircraft as the "Dash-8" and now only use the "DHC-8" identifier in places where the model number has to match the type certificate.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:35 pm

qf789 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
The WA State Government has employed former Tourism Australia boss Andrew McEvoy to encourage more international services to PER

The wishlist includes
A daily service from CZ
A daily service from Japan
Service from PVG (MU)
Service from India (they will beheading off to India shortly to discuss with 6 Airlines)

https://thewest.com.au/news/tourism/wa- ... b88880578z


Perhaps his first action should be go go and sort out PER and its intransigencies?


Umm no, his first action should be encouraging more international services. The fact that Qantas and Perth Airport have a difference of opinion is irrelevant, that's a matter for Qantas and Perth Airport to sort out and has nothing to do with attracting new airlines/destinations to Perth. Furthermore Qantas has just made their case of operating internationally from Terminal 3 harder today with PER-SIN going from double daily 738 to a daily A332 or 356 seats to 271 seats, over a 20% drop in capacity.


I don't think that makes it any harder. Speak to anyone from PER and they'll tell you what a crap experience flying to SIN is on a 738 vs SQ's widebodies. The market reality is that if QF wants people on its SIN-LHR service or to connect at SIN in Business Class they needed to deploy a lie flat product to PER while they can always use 3K to provide more capacity for tourists. They've done it previously and you'll probably find a 3K announcement coming shortly.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:31 pm

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In fairness, it's nothing more than a bilateral-buster. The instant Qatar (the country) gets a better bilateral services agreement with Australia that includes additional "primary" port frequencies it'll go, but until then I reckon QR would happily fly SYD-CBR-SYD empty as without doing so they can't have the DOH-SYD-DOH leg either.

Surely the Australian government knows this, and will either a) not give QR more frequencies, or b) give QR more frequencies on the condition that for SYD, the CBR tag is kept. Then again, does the government really care whether CBR has international flights or not?

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:46 pm

Sydscott wrote:
qf789 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:

Perhaps his first action should be go go and sort out PER and its intransigencies?


Umm no, his first action should be encouraging more international services. The fact that Qantas and Perth Airport have a difference of opinion is irrelevant, that's a matter for Qantas and Perth Airport to sort out and has nothing to do with attracting new airlines/destinations to Perth. Furthermore Qantas has just made their case of operating internationally from Terminal 3 harder today with PER-SIN going from double daily 738 to a daily A332 or 356 seats to 271 seats, over a 20% drop in capacity.


I don't think that makes it any harder. Speak to anyone from PER and they'll tell you what a crap experience flying to SIN is on a 738 vs SQ's widebodies. The market reality is that if QF wants people on its SIN-LHR service or to connect at SIN in Business Class they needed to deploy a lie flat product to PER while they can always use 3K to provide more capacity for tourists. They've done it previously and you'll probably find a 3K announcement coming shortly.


Very true I said that earlier, Jetstar might come back into the market.
As for the a330 on the route I would consider qantas however I usually go Singapore more options, cheaper and better connections.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:10 pm

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Then again, does the government really care whether CBR has international flights or not?


The feds wouldn’t, their perspective goes beyond collecting inflated landing fees for a daily 77W.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:12 pm

Where is QF getting the 747s to operate syd-per?
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:32 pm

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Where is QF getting the 747s to operate syd-per?


The currently schedule SYD-HKG, SYD-HND, SYD-JNB, SYD-SCL, SYD-SFO, BNE-LAX-JFK uses 9 frames with 1 in maintenance. Currently SYD-HKG is being run by the A388 (started on Saturday and runs till early August), the 744 from that route is currently operating 3 weekly SYD-YVR (seasonal) plus JNB is being run daily instead of 6 weekly. I would say they would use the one out of maintenance as once BNE-LAX-JFK goes 789 on 1 Sep that is going to free up a 744 which could be used as the one for maintenance
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:57 pm

Looks like Qantas are bringing the 747 to HNL earlier than expected just got notice my SYD-HNL-SYD at the end of August is now operated by 747
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:44 pm

QF1 for 2nd July sched' at 15.55 departed Syd this morning at 08.36. lengthy delay indeed, wonder if and how many pax got transferred to EK and BA yesterday. If that was at all possible

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:25 am

Driving into PER this morning I noticed something unusual, there is a Qantas 737 on the taxiway parallel to runway 3/21 but is perpendicular across the taxiway between intersections A9 and A11

I’ve taken a photo but unfortunately I was not Close enough to get a good shot

https://twitter.com/brendanqf789/status ... 72448?s=21

https://www.crc.id.au/xplane/charts/DAP ... th%20(YPPH).pdf
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:26 am

Does anyone know how QR's DOH-ADL service is performing ? Cheers
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:24 am

qf789 wrote:
Driving into PER this morning I noticed something unusual, there is a Qantas 737 on the taxiway parallel to runway 3/21 but is perpendicular across the taxiway between intersections A9 and A11

I’ve taken a photo but unfortunately I was not Close enough to get a good shot

https://twitter.com/brendanqf789/status ... 72448?s=21

https://www.crc.id.au/xplane/charts/DAP ... th%20(YPPH).pdf



This is going to bug me. I can't think of any reason for it to be there. Surely it would need to be towed away?

Would love to be able to get down to the viewing gallery and have a look.

Any updates appreciated.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:26 am

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qf789 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:

Perhaps his first action should be go go and sort out PER and its intransigencies?


Umm no, his first action should be encouraging more international services. The fact that Qantas and Perth Airport have a difference of opinion is irrelevant, that's a matter for Qantas and Perth Airport to sort out and has nothing to do with attracting new airlines/destinations to Perth. Furthermore Qantas has just made their case of operating internationally from Terminal 3 harder today with PER-SIN going from double daily 738 to a daily A332 or 356 seats to 271 seats, over a 20% drop in capacity.


I don't think that makes it any harder. Speak to anyone from PER and they'll tell you what a crap experience flying to SIN is on a 738 vs SQ's widebodies. The market reality is that if QF wants people on its SIN-LHR service or to connect at SIN in Business Class they needed to deploy a lie flat product to PER while they can always use 3K to provide more capacity for tourists. They've done it previously and you'll probably find a 3K announcement coming shortly.


I disagree. The 737s J class are always full on both flights. SIN is SQ's hub, so naturally it can use larger planes for connecting passengers. Not all passengers choose flights based on aircraft size. My guess it is coming down to economics and resourcing.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:45 am

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Not all passengers choose flights based on aircraft size. My guess it is coming down to economics and resourcing.

I agree - I think QF will also benefit from its corporate contracts too, which will direct a lot of PER pax to QF (instead of SQ).

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:20 am

Do Australian authorities remove airline-specific data from BITRE stats, if requested to do so?

I ask, because I see that Samoa Airways (OL) has not been listed, even though it serves SYD.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:57 am

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... is if ADL is going to get a return of its ADL-SIN service given QF's re-build of the SIN hub.

I wouldn't think so - hasn't that market become a lot more competitive since when QF last flew the route? For example, QR has trashed yields ex-ADL to Europe. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:58 am

getluv wrote:
Sydscott wrote:
qf789 wrote:

Umm no, his first action should be encouraging more international services. The fact that Qantas and Perth Airport have a difference of opinion is irrelevant, that's a matter for Qantas and Perth Airport to sort out and has nothing to do with attracting new airlines/destinations to Perth. Furthermore Qantas has just made their case of operating internationally from Terminal 3 harder today with PER-SIN going from double daily 738 to a daily A332 or 356 seats to 271 seats, over a 20% drop in capacity.


I don't think that makes it any harder. Speak to anyone from PER and they'll tell you what a crap experience flying to SIN is on a 738 vs SQ's widebodies. The market reality is that if QF wants people on its SIN-LHR service or to connect at SIN in Business Class they needed to deploy a lie flat product to PER while they can always use 3K to provide more capacity for tourists. They've done it previously and you'll probably find a 3K announcement coming shortly.


I disagree. The 737s J class are always full on both flights. SIN is SQ's hub, so naturally it can use larger planes for connecting passengers. Not all passengers choose flights based on aircraft size. My guess it is coming down to economics and resourcing.


Full flights don't mean happy pax and you're right about the resourcing. They had spare 737's but not spare A330's at PER so why not use them for SIN. I've spoken to quite a few Corporate J flying pax and they say exactly the same thing about picking up a 737 to PER and that is that coming off of Long Haul J at SIN to a 737 and being charged the same price as SQ is not good enough. That feedback gets back to people who manage Corporate Accounts which would long term hurt QF. Hence the decision to put the A330 back onto the route.

The far more interesting question from my point of view is if ADL is going to get a return of its ADL-SIN service given QF's re-build of the SIN hub.
 
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Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:12 am

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Source: https://www.facebook.com/BrisbaneAirpor ... =3&theater

First A321neo service to Australia touched down this morning when PR221 arrived into BNE non-stop from MNL. The A321neo could be an excellent aircraft for Australia with so many destinations possible throughout Asia (not just with PR but QF/JQ and other Asian carriers). Look how much bigger those engines are compared to the A321ceo!
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:29 am

Effective 29 July 18 VN will send A359 on SGN-MEL instead of 789

https://www.ausbt.com.au/vietnam-airlin ... ource=grid
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 4:59 am

qf789 wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
The WA State Government has employed former Tourism Australia boss Andrew McEvoy to encourage more international services to PER

The wishlist includes
A daily service from CZ
A daily service from Japan
Service from PVG (MU)
Service from India (they will beheading off to India shortly to discuss with 6 Airlines)

https://thewest.com.au/news/tourism/wa- ... b88880578z


Perhaps his first action should be go go and sort out PER and its intransigencies?


Umm no, his first action should be encouraging more international services. The fact that Qantas and Perth Airport have a difference of opinion is irrelevant, that's a matter for Qantas and Perth Airport to sort out and has nothing to do with attracting new airlines/destinations to Perth. Furthermore Qantas has just made their case of operating internationally from Terminal 3 harder today with PER-SIN going from double daily 738 to a daily A332 or 356 seats to 271 seats, over a 20% drop in capacity.


I think that the PER/QF issue is not irrelevant. By accounts here, QF had CPT ready to go but couldn't get it to work with PER so it was scrapped. PER had to be dragged kicking and screaming to get the LHR service to start.

And if experience broadly through the ages has shown, the operators know more about where sustainable services are than government does. This applies not only to aviation but in a vast number of examples through the economy.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:39 am

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By accounts here, QF had CPT ready to go but couldn't get it to work with PER so it was scrapped.

It was PER - JNB that they were going to fly - not PER - CPT.

That being said, I do see some merit to a PER - CPT service.

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Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:41 am

planemanofnz wrote:
qf2220 wrote:
By accounts here, QF had CPT ready to go but couldn't get it to work with PER so it was scrapped.

It was PER - JNB that they were going to fly - not PER - CPT.

That being said, I do see some merit to a PER - CPT service.

Cheers,

C.


Sorry correct, JNB not CPT.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:02 am

TT to cease MEL-TSV from 1 August 2018.

https://tigerair.com.au/fly/travel-alerts#56930

Still no word on whether BNE-PER and BNE-PPP services will be resumed.
 
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Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:34 am

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TT to cease MEL-TSV from 1 August 2018.

https://tigerair.com.au/fly/travel-alerts#56930

Still no word on whether BNE-PER and BNE-PPP services will be resumed.


Hopeless. What exactly is VAs plan for TT? There is always talk about international services but no action and they appear to currently be in decline domestically and their on time performance is still the worst in the country.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:39 am

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First A321neo service to Australia touched down this morning when PR221 arrived into BNE non-stop from MNL. The A321neo could be an excellent aircraft for Australia with so many destinations possible throughout Asia (not just with PR but QF/JQ and other Asian carriers). Look how much bigger those engines are compared to the A321ceo!


VietJet Air will be using them on the SGN-BNE route from next year :-)
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:49 am

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I don't think that makes it any harder. Speak to anyone from PER and they'll tell you what a crap experience flying to SIN is on a 738 vs SQ's widebodies. The market reality is that if QF wants people on its SIN-LHR service or to connect at SIN in Business Class they needed to deploy a lie flat product to PER while they can always use 3K to provide more capacity for tourists. They've done it previously and you'll probably find a 3K announcement coming shortly.


I disagree. The 737s J class are always full on both flights. SIN is SQ's hub, so naturally it can use larger planes for connecting passengers. Not all passengers choose flights based on aircraft size. My guess it is coming down to economics and resourcing.


Full flights don't mean happy pax and you're right about the resourcing. They had spare 737's but not spare A330's at PER so why not use them for SIN. I've spoken to quite a few Corporate J flying pax and they say exactly the same thing about picking up a 737 to PER and that is that coming off of Long Haul J at SIN to a 737 and being charged the same price as SQ is not good enough. That feedback gets back to people who manage Corporate Accounts which would long term hurt QF. Hence the decision to put the A330 back onto the route.

The far more interesting question from my point of view is if ADL is going to get a return of its ADL-SIN service given QF's re-build of the SIN hub.


Again I disagree. While I don't doubt people may prefer the A330s over 737s and that QF loses some traffic from it, I don't think it's a big issue as people on Anet make it out to be. Corporates are usually dictated by company policies and the average passenger (especially the pax from the 9 airlines that codeshare on this route) wouldn't have a clue. QF also have the luxury of its own FF base who are very rusted on.

As for ADL, unlikely given the limited resources.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:05 am

China Airlines to fly the 777-300ER on TPE-BNE-AKL from December to February next year.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-03jul18/
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:29 am

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China Airlines to fly the 777-300ER on TPE-BNE-AKL from December to February next year.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-03jul18/


Looks like MEL gets the 77W indefinitely, quite an upgrade, proves those wrong who said that they didn’t think it will happen.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:59 am

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TT to cease MEL-TSV from 1 August 2018.

https://tigerair.com.au/fly/travel-alerts#56930

Still no word on whether BNE-PER and BNE-PPP services will be resumed.


MEL-TSV is a bit niche. Neither QF or VA do the route and JQ only do it once daily and, even then, the flight time is late in the day and not attractive to tourists. I can't say I'm surprised to see it go; there are probably better leisure routes to concentrate the TT fleet on.

I'm surprised BNE-PPP isn't back as it would seem to be an ideal typical TT route; not so sure about BNE-PER. Flights of this length do not play to the strengths of LCCs and it is likely that you could pick up a fare on QF or VA for about the same $.

I suspect TT's next moves will be some leisure routes to NZ such as Queenstown as well as potentially some routes to Fiji. Obviously Bali would seem an ideal candidate but the weird history of TT and the Indonesian Government probably precludes it and the routes are pretty saturated anyway.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:09 am

Fiji is out as Australia is maxed out on the bilateral, also why Jetstar is less than daily.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:16 am

TT could probably pick up almost all of VA's current NZ schedule excluding BNE/SYD/MEL-AKL and SYD-WLG sometime after October 2018.

I'd also suggest the midday AKL services on VA (from all 3 East Coast ports) could probably be TT'ed off, leaving AKL as the only destination served by VA and TT. That won't affect connections from VA's remaining partners, plus it's in the off-peak when there's less yield for VA (being the weaker competitor).
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:24 am

tullamarine wrote:
I suspect TT's next moves will be some leisure routes to NZ such as Queenstown as well as potentially some routes to Fiji. Obviously Bali would seem an ideal candidate but the weird history of TT and the Indonesian Government probably precludes it and the routes are pretty saturated anyway.


ZQN will be out of the question unless VA is willing to hand over its current ZQN slots of TT, ZQN is nearing its operational limits durring peak periods and can't see TT getting Night flying rights.

WHK (Wanaka) would be best option if they wanted to get TT into the region, WHK is all ready planning to be able to offer services for larger aircraft in the future.


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Fiji is out as Australia is maxed out on the bilateral, also why Jetstar is less than daily.


That could change though if the airlines we're to prompt the Government to request Fiji for more slots in the bliateral.

New Zealand and Fiji have an pretty open bilateral agreement, no reason why Australia couldn't have the same if they asked.
 
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Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:06 am

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WHK (Wanaka) would be best option if they wanted to get TT into the region, WHK is all ready planning to be able to offer services for larger aircraft in the future.

Wanaka (actually WKA) has a runway length of just 3,900 ft. Yes, NZ has expressed interest in operating an A320 to AKL, and yes, there is Consent to extend the runway to IIRC something around 7,000 ft, but to the best of my knowledge there is nothing whatsoever concrete about either proposal. Having said that, I've long wondered whether WKA could eventually become an international port with services to East Coast Australia, as it is a booming tourist area in its own right, and at an hour's drive from ZQN it would be ideally located to carry the spillover from ZQN. As has been noted, ZQN is really pushed during the mid-afternoon peak time - this arises because most airlines try to get two return Tasman flights a day out of their aircraft, and this makes most of NZ's smaller international ports very busy between about 2.30 and 4.30 in the afternoon. And while ZQN could not accommodate long-haul aircraft, an expanded WKA quite possibly could. Not that that is by any means imminent . . .
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Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:46 am

A bit more information of QF's pilot issues

About 600 or so pilots have reached their maximum allowable flight time of 1000 hours within a rolling 12 month period which has limited rostering options
Normally pilots are rostered up to 950 hours to allow some flexibility
Not only are they short of pilots but also have trouble finding enough training instructors
There were more than 60 simulator sessions for this month booked what dont have type rated examiners and are likely to be cancelled
No relief expected until towards the end of the year
Qantas is also applying the Federal Government to bring in foreign flight instructors on work visas to help alleviate the problem

As previously mentioned 747's will be deployed on SYD-PER and A330's replacing some services on PER-SIN. Additionally some SYD-HKG services will see 744's replaced by A388's, SYD-HNL A330's replaced by 744's and MEL-AKL will see A330's replaced by 737's

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Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:09 am

The next 789 for QF will be loaded for final assembly tomorrow

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:13 am

A question for @Sydscott or others who are business minded. I have read some interesting commentary, mainly not very flattering on Richard Goyder taking over as QF Chairman. What are your thoughts on his business acumen I guess and how will he go at QF?
 
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Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:47 am

zkncj wrote:

RyanairGuru wrote:
Fiji is out as Australia is maxed out on the bilateral, also why Jetstar is less than daily.


That could change though if the airlines we're to prompt the Government to request Fiji for more slots in the bliateral.

New Zealand and Fiji have an pretty open bilateral agreement, no reason why Australia couldn't have the same if they asked.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:27 am

Etihad CEO has told media that they will continue to hold a stake in Virgin

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Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:00 pm

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Etihad CEO has told media that they will continue to hold a stake in Virgin

https://twitter.com/Jamie_Freed/status/ ... 2899449856

I wonder if a reduced stake, though?

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VH-OQG is positioning back to SYD after painting in DXB

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Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:33 am

VH-EBS is back in service following A330-200L reconfiguration currently operating QF61.

The new seat plan has appeared on the QF website too.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:57 am

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Good for HBA. I'll be interested to see the timing for the flights.

Would have been nice if it were QF to connect with the LHR flights.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:29 am

TasFlyer wrote:

Amazing - though quite a surprise that it wasn't QF. Perhaps this will spur QF to re-evaluate HBA - PER soon?

This leaves AKL as the biggest city regionally without a service to HBA, followed by OOL, NTL and CBR, right?

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