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Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:07 pm

Hello all,

The time is upon us. Piedmont will officially retire the Dash 8 this Wednesday, July 4. I for one will terribly miss this airplane. The final flight is CLT-SBY flight number 4927. There is supposed to be a longer video, but here is the teaser:

https://www.facebook.com/workforpiedmon ... 762236186/
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:23 pm

From an aviation enthusiast viewpoint, I'm sorry to see the last of a fleet get retired. The Dash 8 served an important niche, and served it well.

But from a passenger experience viewpoint: Good Riddance to that wretched plane. Rust In Pieces.
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:53 pm

Last Mainline with regional prop service
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:27 pm

vatveng wrote:
From an aviation enthusiast viewpoint, I'm sorry to see the last of a fleet get retired. The Dash 8 served an important niche, and served it well.

But from a passenger experience viewpoint: Good Riddance to that wretched plane. Rust In Pieces.


They served their purpose but the time for them to go was several years ago. Almost all the cancelled flights I was to take were the Dash's. Parts were becoming scarce years ago and the noise, vibration, and being unable to fly above bad weather made the trip a bad one. Just like the Beech 1900's and the twin otters and other obsolete planes that made air travel third world, the Dash's are finally gone.
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:49 pm

Ionosphere wrote:
Last Mainline with regional prop service


You can still get around on QX throughout the west coast and Ohana in Hawaii
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:24 pm

Ohana has ATR not DHC-8
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:46 pm

I read somewhere that Jazz picked up 2 of the DH300's. Anyone know where the others are headed?
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:08 am

Ionosphere wrote:
Last Mainline with regional prop service


Horizon still flies 40 or so Q400s for Alaska
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:26 am

30 years @ PI-US-AA …. pretty darn good run for that airplane … its a sturdy tank that served well.

Had many nice flights on the ALG/PDT Dash 8s during the years I worked for them.

I can't say that same thing about the Shorts. Almost everyone was glad to see those ugly,embarrassing, rickety, leaky carboard-and-tin cans with wings get retired and parked! They were the worst!
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:11 pm

I will be flying one this afternoon to Florence, SC and returning on another to Charlotte tomorrow morning. I doubt there will be any kind of special recognition, but I have never been on a Dash 8 so this will be a fun and unique trip nonetheless. Having always lived in Iowa so far I have never remotely been close to any Dashes so I'm very much looking forward to the experience.
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:20 pm

Although I haven't ridden a propeller plane in years, I tried taking a DH3 flight ROA-CLT on Sunday just for old times' sake before she retired, but the scheduling didn't work for me. And the ER4 I took coming and going instead is just a much nicer ride.
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:44 pm

cheapgreek wrote:
vatveng wrote:
From an aviation enthusiast viewpoint, I'm sorry to see the last of a fleet get retired. The Dash 8 served an important niche, and served it well.

But from a passenger experience viewpoint: Good Riddance to that wretched plane. Rust In Pieces.


They served their purpose but the time for them to go was several years ago. Almost all the cancelled flights I was to take were the Dash's. Parts were becoming scarce years ago and the noise, vibration, and being unable to fly above bad weather made the trip a bad one. Just like the Beech 1900's and the twin otters and other obsolete planes that made air travel third world, the Dash's are finally gone.


Scarce parts? Globally there is still a huge DH8/DH3 fleet in operation. There's well over 60 in Canada alone.
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:41 pm

Could Air Canada try to get them by any chance?.........
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:47 pm

Wow, I remember flying on the Dash 8 between ISP-BWI way back around 1985-1986. That was a good run with Piedmont and a great aircraft for its time for short haul.
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:06 pm

Dominion301 wrote:
cheapgreek wrote:
vatveng wrote:
From an aviation enthusiast viewpoint, I'm sorry to see the last of a fleet get retired. The Dash 8 served an important niche, and served it well.

But from a passenger experience viewpoint: Good Riddance to that wretched plane. Rust In Pieces.


They served their purpose but the time for them to go was several years ago. Almost all the cancelled flights I was to take were the Dash's. Parts were becoming scarce years ago and the noise, vibration, and being unable to fly above bad weather made the trip a bad one. Just like the Beech 1900's and the twin otters and other obsolete planes that made air travel third world, the Dash's are finally gone.


Scarce parts? Globally there is still a huge DH8/DH3 fleet in operation. There's well over 60 in Canada alone.

And at any rate they break down far less often than the Q400 does, but I don’t imagine parts would be that excessively scarce that operation is not feasible as a result of that alone.
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:13 pm

I'm super sad to see the Dash 8 being retired from Piedmont. I've flown in the Dash literally hundreds of times. Over the years, not once did any of those flights have a technical issue! Perhaps I've been lucky, but I certainly can't say the same about the other multitudes of planes I've flown in.

To me, the Dash has a special unique character and has always been a treat to fly on. Are they noisy - yep. Cramped - sure! For me, it's the experience of flying in an older Dash is what I've enjoyed and yes, I have gone out of my way to fly on them over a CRJ or an ERJ. Call it an analog vs. digital thing, I guess!
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:38 pm

Wow the skies over Charlotte will be weird...Sad to see them go (no i havent flown one in years though so it may be worse now from a passenger standpoint then back them)
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:12 am

9252fly wrote:
I read somewhere that Jazz picked up 2 of the DH300's. Anyone know where the others are headed?


Jazz has 26 300s, none of them have come from Piedmont... there’s two charter machines 327,328 which came from GECAS and somewhere else.
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:14 am

F27500 wrote:
30 years @ PI-US-AA …. pretty darn good run for that airplane … its a sturdy tank that served well.

Had many nice flights on the ALG/PDT Dash 8s during the years I worked for them.

I can't say that same thing about the Shorts. Almost everyone was glad to see those ugly,embarrassing, rickety, leaky carboard-and-tin cans with wings get retired and parked! They were the worst!



Yup, we have “resQ” flights where the Q400 breaks down and the might old DH8 comes in and does the work instead... amazing durability on those machines.
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:15 am

FabienA380 wrote:
Could Air Canada try to get them by any chance?.........



No Jazz Aviation won’t pick any up anymore AFAIK. they actually retired 2 -301 series this year, so it’s unlikely they’ll grab anymore.
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:53 am

A bittersweet day. I came to loathe that plane after one of my umpteen hops from CHO to BWI, PHL, LGA, CLT and PIT over the years, but still strongly preferred it to the Saabs, J41s, and B1900s that were flying regional routes years ago.
First Dash 8 flight was my first time on a plane by myself... an Allegheny flight SYR-BOS. So some nostalgia there too.
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:55 am

Dominion301 wrote:
cheapgreek wrote:
vatveng wrote:
From an aviation enthusiast viewpoint, I'm sorry to see the last of a fleet get retired. The Dash 8 served an important niche, and served it well.

But from a passenger experience viewpoint: Good Riddance to that wretched plane. Rust In Pieces.


They served their purpose but the time for them to go was several years ago. Almost all the cancelled flights I was to take were the Dash's. Parts were becoming scarce years ago and the noise, vibration, and being unable to fly above bad weather made the trip a bad one. Just like the Beech 1900's and the twin otters and other obsolete planes that made air travel third world, the Dash's are finally gone.


Scarce parts? Globally there is still a huge DH8/DH3 fleet in operation. There's well over 60 in Canada alone.


Some years ago Piedmont was using parts from timed out planes. Bombardier stopped producing many parts years ago as some in the Piedmont fleet were well over 20 years old. Interior parts were hard to come by and again the Dash is no longer supported with a full line of parts.
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:59 am

9252fly wrote:
I read somewhere that Jazz picked up 2 of the DH300's. Anyone know where the others are headed?

Lots of them sitting engineless in Great Falls MT.
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:08 am

767333ER wrote:
And at any rate they break down far less often than the Q400 does, but I don’t imagine parts would be that excessively scarce that operation is not feasible as a result of that alone.


Not true, today, and it has been for years, The dispatch reliability and schedule completion rate for the Q400 worldwide is better than the Dash 8 classic.
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:55 pm

I think it's sad to see another operator retire the Dash 8. I agree they are old, but I'd travel to the end of the earth on one of those and feel safe the whole time. Sure, it's noisy, it vibrates, it's a dump truck, not the prettiest, but it'll get the job done. I know it's solid because I've worked on them for over 10 years, I'm an AME so the technical side of the aircraft is one very familiar to me. Oh, I probably also have flown on one close to 100 times as well.
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:29 pm

T prop wrote:
767333ER wrote:
And at any rate they break down far less often than the Q400 does, but I don’t imagine parts would be that excessively scarce that operation is not feasible as a result of that alone.


Not true, today, and it has been for years, The dispatch reliability and schedule completion rate for the Q400 worldwide is better than the Dash 8 classic.

Tell that to the fine people at an operator like Jazz for example and they’ll all laugh at you!
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:41 pm

767333ER wrote:
T prop wrote:
767333ER wrote:
And at any rate they break down far less often than the Q400 does, but I don’t imagine parts would be that excessively scarce that operation is not feasible as a result of that alone.


Not true, today, and it has been for years, The dispatch reliability and schedule completion rate for the Q400 worldwide is better than the Dash 8 classic.

Tell that to the fine people at an operator like Jazz for example and they’ll all laugh at you!


I'm laughing reading this, the Q400 (Qcumber) is always bad for breakdowns, like I said we have ResQ flights as we call them typically. The worst system by far is the ANVS which rarely works without a hitch. I have friends on the Q who haven't gone flying because of MX or been stranded at an outstation until parts and a mechanic haven't shown up, vs me who's never even seen a groundable item.
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:13 pm

Sad day for me even though I haven’t flown one in over ten years. That was a bulletproof tank of an airplane that was a blast to fly.


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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:38 am

On final into SBY as I’m typing this! Still in the air!
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:49 am

So long and farewell DH8 with AA/US/US3.
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:05 am

The US (PI) Dash-8 were a mainstay growing up in TPA In the 90's. Gates F86 & F87 were configured with airstairs connected to the jetways to board and deplane on the ground. Sure will miss the familiar "buzzing" of the plane as it flew overhead.

[First picture on the left states it was taken at TPA, but pretty sure that looks like MCO]



 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:18 am

767333ER wrote:
T prop wrote:
767333ER wrote:
And at any rate they break down far less often than the Q400 does, but I don’t imagine parts would be that excessively scarce that operation is not feasible as a result of that alone.


Not true, today, and it has been for years, The dispatch reliability and schedule completion rate for the Q400 worldwide is better than the Dash 8 classic.

Tell that to the fine people at an operator like Jazz for example and they’ll all laugh at you!


The actual numbers are reported by airlines, any one with access to Iflybombardier can see them. Facts are facts, ask someone at Jazz to look it up for you.
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:54 am

Here is the full tribute video by Piedmont. Very well done!

https://www.facebook.com/47684534915039 ... 362043926/
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:34 am

Clatter off into the sunset, Dash. You earned it.
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:48 am

Northwest1988 wrote:
Here is the full tribute video by Piedmont. Very well done!

https://www.facebook.com/47684534915039 ... 362043926/



Really well done. It would have been nice if UA and DL could have made one of those for the 747.

Hey AA if you reading this here's your nudge nudge to make one for the MD80.

If Allegient made one for the MD80 they would be like "Even through all the emergency landings..."
 
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Re: Piedmont Dash 8 retirement this Wednesday July 4, 2018

Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:30 am

Northwest1988 wrote:
On final into SBY as I’m typing this! Still in the air!

Captain on captain pairing, both retiring with the airplane.


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