FAQ

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares departures for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

THE SCHEDULES SHOWN HERE CHANGE AFTER YOU POST???
-To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often---Winston Churchill. This is data the carriers filed at the point in time it was captured. It's changed since then. You are just going to have to live with it.

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

WHERE ARE SEATS SHOWN?
They aren't. This only shows departures.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Flights that do not operate every day of the month create fractional service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. For example, if a flight operates 4 times in April it will show 4/30=0.133=0.1. Also , a flight that only operates once per week may vary between 0.1 and 0.2 because a weekday may repeat either 4 or 5 times depending on the month.

WHAT ABOUT CARRIERS THAT DON'T PUBLISH A SCHEDULE 9 MONTHS IN ADVANCE?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. I remove the schedule adds if I see them and show a year over year (YOY) comparison if I notice them.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE SKYWEST
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN ERROR?
The carriers file the schedules. They do make mistakes. Most of the mistakes I have seen are either related to code shares not being marked as "duplicates" or carriers filing flights with invalid data such as equipment codes that are not standard. This causes flights to not appear.

CHARTERS?
Lately charters have been showing up in the database. I have no idea if that will continue.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

3M EYW-FLL DEC 6>4 JAN 6>4 FEB 6>4 MAR 6>4
3M EYW-MCO NOV 1.8>1.3 DEC 3>1.3 JAN 3>1.3
3M FLL-ELH DEC 4>3 JAN 4>1.7 FEB 4>3
3M FLL-FPO NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3 MAR 4>3
3M FLL-GGT NOV 1.1>0.7 DEC 1.4>0.7 JAN 1.4>0.7 FEB 1.4>1.1
3M FLL-GHB DEC 0.7>0.4 JAN 0.7>0.5 FEB 0.7>0.6
3M FLL-MHH NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3
3M FLL-TCB NOV 0.7>0.4 DEC 1.3>0.6 JAN 1.3>0.3 FEB 1.3>0.8
*3M JAX-MHH NOV 0.2>0 DEC 0.5>0 JAN 0.4>0 FEB 0.4>0.3
*3M MCO-ELH NOV 0.3>0 DEC 0.6>0 JAN 0.5>0 FEB 0.6>0.3
*3M MCO-MHH NOV 0.7>0.0 DEC 1.3>0 JAN 1.3>0 FEB 1.3>0.7
*3M PBI-MHH NOV 0.5>0 DEC 1.0>0.4 JAN 1.0>0.0 FEB 1.0>0.5
*3M PBI-NAS NOV 0.5>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0 MAR 1.0>0
3M PBI-TPA NOV 1.4>0.9 DEC 1.8>0.8 JAN 1.9>0.9 FEB 1.9>1.4
3M PNS-TPA OCT 1.0>1.7
*3M TPA-MHH DEC 0.2>0 JAN 0.1>0
3M TPA-NAS JAN 1.0>0.9

7H ANC-CDV AUG 0.7>0 SEP 0.7>0
7H ANI-KSM SEP 0.2>0.1

*AA CLT-CMI JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
AA CLT-NAS MAR 3>4
AA DFW-CDG FEB 1.0>0.9
AA DFW-FRA FEB 1.0>0.9
AA DFW-MAD FEB 1.0>0.9
AA DFW-RSW NOV 3>4 DEC 3>4 JAN 3>4 FEB 3>5 MAR 3>5
AA JFK-BCN FEB 1.0>0.8
AA JFK-MXP JAN 1.0>0.6 FEB 1.0>0.6 MAR 1.0>0.8
AA LAX-LHR JAN 2>1.6 FEB 2>1.9
AA LAX-PEK FEB 0.9>0.8 MAR 1.0>0.8
AA LAX-PVG FEB 0.9>0.8 MAR 1.0>0.9
*AA LGA-NAS JAN 0>0.1 FEB 0>0.1 MAR 0>0.2
*AA MIA-BUF JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
*AA MIA-GRR JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
*AA MIA-HOU JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
AA MIA-MXP JAN 1.0>0.9 FEB 1.0>0.8
*AA MIA-OMA JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
*AA MIA-PVD JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0
*AA MIA-RSW DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>2 FEB 0>2 MAR 0>2
AA ORD-PVG MAR 1.0>0.9
AA PHL-CDG FEB 1.0>0.7
AA PHL-DUB FEB 1.0>0.8
AA PHL-FCO FEB 0.1>0
AA PHL-MAN FEB 1.0>0.9
AA PHL-MUC JAN 1.0>0.7 FEB 1.0>0.6

AC BDL-YYZ NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3 MAR 4>3
AC BWI-YYZ NOV 4>3 DEC 4>3 JAN 4>3 FEB 4>3 MAR 4>3
AC CLE-YYZ NOV 4>3
AC DEN-YVR NOV 1.0>2 DEC 1.0>2 JAN 1.0>2 FEB 1.0>2 MAR 1.0>2
AC DTW-YYZ NOV 4>3
AC HNL-YVR NOV 1.6>1.0
AC IAH-YYC NOV 3>2 DEC 3>2 JAN 3>2 FEB 3>2 MAR 3>2
AC LAX-YVR NOV 4>5 DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 FEB 4>5 MAR 4>5
AC LGA-YYZ NOV 13>12 DEC 13>12 JAN 13>12 FEB 13>12 MAR 13>12
AC MCI-YYZ NOV 2>1.0 DEC 2>1.0 JAN 2>1.0 FEB 2>1.0 MAR 2>1.0
AC MSY-YYZ NOV 1.0>2
AC ORD-YUL NOV 5>4 DEC 5>4 JAN 5>4 FEB 5>4 MAR 5>4
AC SFO-YYZ NOV 4>3
AC SJC-YVR NOV 1.9>3
AC TPA-YOW DEC 0.2>0.1

*AM ATL-MID AUG 1.0>0.6 SEP 1.0>0.0 OCT 1.0>0 NOV 1.0>0 DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0 MAR 1.0>0
AM FAT-GDL DEC 0.9>1.0
AM LAX-BJX DEC 0.6>0.7

AS HNL-SFO FEB 1.0>0.7
AS LAX-LIR FEB 0.6>0.7
AS LAX-LTO FEB 0.7>0.9
AS LAX-MZT JAN 0.7>1.0 FEB 0.7>1.0
AS LAX-OGG FEB 1.0>0.7
AS LAX-PVR FEB 1.1>1.0
AS LAX-SJD JAN 2>1.7 FEB 2>1.7
AS LAX-ZLO FEB 0.6>0.9 MAR 0.6>0.7
OAK is on a bit of a downhill lately
*AS OAK-OGG JAN 1.0>0.5 FEB 1.0>0.4
AS OGG-SFO FEB 1.0>0.7
AS OGG-SJC FEB 1.0>0.7
AS PDX-PVR FEB 0.4>0.6
AS SAN-SJD JAN 1.6>1.3 FEB 1.6>1.1 MAR 1.6>1.5
AS SEA-HNL FEB 2>3 MAR 2>3
AS SEA-PVR FEB 1.0>1.1
AS SEA-SJD JAN 1.0>1.2 FEB 1.0>1.8 MAR 1.0>1.3
AS SFO-SJD JAN 1.7>1.2 FEB 1.7>1.1 MAR 1.7>1.5
AS SJC-GDL JAN 0.7>1.0 FEB 0.7>1.0 MAR 0.7>1.0
AS SJC-SJD JAN 0.7>0.9 FEB 0.7>0.9

AT JFK-CMN FEB 1.1>1.0

AV SFO-SAL NOV 1.7>2 DEC 1.7>2 JAN 1.7>2 FEB 1.7>2 MAR 1.7>2

CA EWR-PEK DEC 0.6>0.7 JAN 0.6>0.7 FEB 0.6>0.7
**CA SJC-PVG OCT 0.3>0 NOV 0.3>0 DEC 0.4>0 JAN 0.5>0 FEB 0.4>0 MAR 0.4>0

DL ATL-DUS JAN 0.8>0.7 FEB 0.9>0.7
DL ATL-ELH FEB 0.6>0.7 MAR 0.7>1.0
DL ATL-FPO MAR 0.5>0.3
DL ATL-MTY NOV 1.9>1.8
DL BOS-LHR FEB 1.0>0.8
DL DTW-LHR FEB 1.6>1.1
DL DTW-PDX JAN 1.9>1.0
DL JFK-AMS JAN 2>1.8
DL LAX-RDU JAN 1.9>1.1
DL MCO-GRU NOV 0.8>0.7
DL PDX-NRT MAR 0.7>0.9
*DL SEA-CVG JAN 1.0>0.1 FEB 1.0>0.5
DL SEA-LAX FEB 8>9
DL SLC-CDG FEB 0.7>0.6
DL SLC-SUN FEB 2>3 MAR 2>3

EW JFK-DUS DEC 0.6>0.7 JAN 0.5>0.6 FEB 0.4>0.6
EW MIA-DUS DEC 0.4>0.7
EW RSW-DUS DEC 0.4>0.6 JAN 0.4>0.5 FEB 0.3>0.4
EW RSW-MUC SEP 0.3>0.2

F9 DEN-CHS SEP 0.6>0.4
F9 DEN-IND SEP 0.7>0.5
F9 DEN-TUL SEP 0.6>0.4
F9 IND-PHL SEP 0.6>0.3
F9 MCO-MKE SEP 0.6>0.4
F9 MCO-SJU OCT 1.7>1.0 NOV 0.9>0.5
*F9 MEM-PHL OCT 0.3>0.0
*F9 MKE-PHL OCT 0.3>0.0
F9 MSN-PHL OCT 0.4>0.1

HA HNL-AKL NOV 0.6>0.5 FEB 0.7>0.5
HA HNL-ICN JAN 0.7>0.9

KL MSP-AMS NOV 0.7>0.6 DEC 0.7>0.6 JAN 0.7>0.5 FEB 0.7>0.6 MAR 0.7>0.6

MU HNL-PVG NOV 1.0>0.9 DEC 1.0>0.9 JAN 1.0>0.8 FEB 1.0>0.9 MAR 1.0>0.9

NK BWI-CUN SEP 0.8>0.6 OCT 0.7>0.4
*NK DTW-MBJ DEC 0>0.2 JAN 0>0.5 FEB 0>0.2
*NK EWR-SDQ NOV 0>0.8 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>0.5
NK FLL-BQN DEC 0.8>1.1 JAN 1.0>1.4 FEB 0.5>0.7
NK FLL-MGA AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3 NOV 0.9>0.5 DEC 1.0>0.6 JAN 1.0>0.5 FEB 0.5>0.3
NK FLL-SJO JAN 1.8>2
NK FLL-SJU DEC 1.6>2 FEB 1.1>1.4
NK ORD-CUN SEP 0.8>0.6 OCT 0.7>0.4

*OR MIA-AMS NOV 0>0.3 DEC 0>0.3 JAN 0>0.3 FEB 0>0.3 MAR 0>0.3

*SQ LAX-ICN DEC 1.0>0 JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0 MAR 1.0>0
*SQ LAX-SIN NOV 0>0.8 DEC 0>1.4 JAN 0>1.4 FEB 0>1.4 MAR 0>1.4
*SQ SFO-SIN DEC 1.0>1.4 JAN 1.0>1.4 FEB 1.0>1.4 MAR 1.0>1.5

TA MIA-MGA AUG 1.0>0.6 SEP 1.0>0.4

UA CLE-CUN DEC 0.2>0
UA EWR-BNA DEC 7>6
UA EWR-BOS DEC 11>10
UA IAH-CLE DEC 6>5
UA IAH-MGA AUG 1.0>0.8 SEP 1.0>0.6 OCT 1.0>0.5 NOV 1.1>0.7 DEC 1.9>0.8 JAN 3>1.8
UA LAX-BOI DEC 2>3
UA ORD-BDL DEC 4>3
UA ORD-BOS DEC 8>7
UA ORD-BUF DEC 5>3
UA ORD-CHO SEP 1.0>2
UA ORD-CLE DEC 9>8
UA SFO-DEN DEC 11>10
UA SFO-STS DEC 3>1.8

VS EWR-LHR FEB 1.0>0.9 MAR 1.0>0.9
VS LAX-LHR JAN 2>1.9
VS MIA-LHR FEB 1.9>1.8
VS SFO-LHR FEB 2>1.9

VVC MIA-MDE DEC 1.0>0.8

WN FLL-MBJ SEP 2>1.9

Y4 LAS-GDL SEP 1.0>1.1
Y4 LAS-MEX SEP 0.9>1.0

Seems like a filing error
YK MOB-FRU AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>0.9
YK MOB-OSS AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>0.9

YR BLD-PGA NOV 0.1>1.0 DEC 0>1.0 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0

At long last, AA adds MIA-PVD. Hoping they add DFW-PVD next.

1) the trend of AA adding mid- and small-city Midwest destinations out of Charlotte continues. Some of the first Obed have done fantastic and have been upgraded.
2) While Miami has a lot of growth for AA this time around, I think Hobby is the most interesting. Shows they’re finally ready to go beyond DFW. Is CLT or ORD next?
3)I’m not sure that it is OAK on a downhill. OGG also lost some SFO and SJC frequencies.
4) All these Singapore frequencies seem like a lot for a market they’re just starting, especially given it has no Y...

enilria wrote:

*AA MIA-BUF JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0

Seasonal add, hopefully it can eventually go year round.

AA also added Saturday only service from ITH-CLT beginning 22 December. Route will be operated by Piedmont.

maximairways wrote:

enilria wrote:

*AA MIA-BUF JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0

Seasonal add, hopefully it can eventually go year round.

Interesting that PVD and BUF are mainline while the rest are RJ's. I guess they need the A319's lower CASM to compete with F9 and the LCC's to FLL.

ahj2000 wrote:

3)I’m not sure that it is OAK on a downhill. OGG also lost some SFO and SJC frequencies.

They lost Level, BA, and some DY service, although I suspect DY will grow more in time.

enilria wrote:

ahj2000 wrote:

3)I’m not sure that it is OAK on a downhill. OGG also lost some SFO and SJC frequencies.

They lost Level, BA, and some DY service, although I suspect DY will grow more in time.

Given what an incredible tear the past couple of years OAK and SJC were both on, something had to give. I agree, DY will continue to gradually grow OAK.

Another big round of cuts for 3M. One expects some routes to be trimmed or eliminated with larger a/c coming in, but eventually they need to be replaced, mostly with longer routes to larger markets. 2019 will be interesting to watch once the ATR EIS is complete.

Side note, nice to see AC starting their second daily YYZ-MSY a month or two earlier this year.

MIA-HOU is very interesting.

enilria wrote:

*AA MIA-RSW DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>2 FEB 0>2 MAR 0>2

I can't remember when MIA-RSW got cut. Was this when the ATRs were retired from MIA ops?

Thanks enilria.

I'm kind of surprised AA would add HOU-MIA before HOU-CLT. Are these MIA adds seasonal routes?

MIA-OMA was originally scheduled to end on August 21. Is it going seasonal now?

Interesting that OMA-MIA is back, It was just getting cut. Perhaps its seasonal only now?

RSW-MIA is a good add to feed MIA. Anyone wanting to go south out of RSW had to seriously back track. Will this be on 50 seaters or a larger RJ?

Not surprised by the DL PDX cuts from DTW, I think it will be seasonal again after the exit by AS.

SgtBarone wrote:

MIA-OMA was originally scheduled to end on August 21. Is it going seasonal now?

enilria wrote:

*AA MIA-OMA JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0

WN could possibly add OMA-FLL nonstop service in order to better compete against AA on the OMA-FLL route. OMA is also located in the largest Midwestern metro area without nonstop service to FLL.

enilria wrote:

**CA SJC-PVG OCT 0.3>0 NOV 0.3>0 DEC 0.4>0 JAN 0.5>0 FEB 0.4>0 MAR 0.4>0

It's still on the schedule for April, so it's unknown if it's a seasonal cut, or a permanent one.

Looks like MCI-YYZ is now permanently 1 x daily. It was an odd seasonality, 2x daily fall/winter/spring and once daily summer. This takes care of all that!

phluser wrote:

Thanks enilria.

I'm kind of surprised AA would add HOU-MIA before HOU-CLT. Are these MIA adds seasonal routes?

Yes, HOU is an oddball.

see below

SgtBarone wrote:

MIA-OMA was originally scheduled to end on August 21. Is it going seasonal now?

It resumes in November. see below...

*AA MIA-BUF JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0; A319 Ends 4/1
*AA MIA-GRR JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0; E75 Ends 4/1
*AA MIA-HOU JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0; E75 Ends 4/1
AA MIA-MXP JAN 1.0>0.9 FEB 1.0>0.8; E75 Ends 4/1
*AA MIA-OMA JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0; E75 Ends 4/1
*AA MIA-PVD JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0; A319 Ends 4/1
*AA MIA-RSW DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>2 FEB 0>2 MAR 0>2; E75 Ends 4/1

It looks AA needs more feed in MIA.

Dominion301 wrote:

enilria wrote:

ahj2000 wrote:

3)I’m not sure that it is OAK on a downhill. OGG also lost some SFO and SJC frequencies.

They lost Level, BA, and some DY service, although I suspect DY will grow more in time.

Given what an incredible tear the past couple of years OAK and SJC were both on, something had to give. I agree, DY will continue to gradually grow OAK.

Very considerate of them to preemptively cede ground prior to WN’s entrance. #mostwestcoast

enilria wrote:

phluser wrote:

Thanks enilria.

I'm kind of surprised AA would add HOU-MIA before HOU-CLT. Are these MIA adds seasonal routes?

Yes, HOU is an oddball.

see below

SgtBarone wrote:

MIA-OMA was originally scheduled to end on August 21. Is it going seasonal now?

It resumes in November. see below...

*AA MIA-BUF JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0; A319 Ends 4/1
*AA MIA-GRR JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0; E75 Ends 4/1
*AA MIA-HOU JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0; E75 Ends 4/1
AA MIA-MXP JAN 1.0>0.9 FEB 1.0>0.8; E75 Ends 4/1
*AA MIA-OMA JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0; E75 Ends 4/1
*AA MIA-PVD JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0; A319 Ends 4/1
*AA MIA-RSW DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>2 FEB 0>2 MAR 0>2; E75 Ends 4/1

That makes sense - then it will capture O&D during the peak season. A few of these (BUF/PVD) are defense moves against F9, before it extends its schedule.

AA is building quite the domestic network with adds over the past few weeks/months.

phluser wrote:

Thanks enilria.

I'm kind of surprised AA would add HOU-MIA before HOU-CLT. Are these MIA adds seasonal routes?

Theres seems to be a lot more overlap between DFW and CLT routes. Meaning you can go HOU-DFW-XYZ vs HOU-CLT-XYZ.

MIA is the gateway to central, south america and the Caribbean. So IMO this is why they added it first.

Just my thoughts. Am happy as IAH sucks royally.

KLMatSJC wrote:

enilria wrote:

**CA SJC-PVG OCT 0.3>0 NOV 0.3>0 DEC 0.4>0 JAN 0.5>0 FEB 0.4>0 MAR 0.4>0

It's still on the schedule for April, so it's unknown if it's a seasonal cut, or a permanent one.

Awww, damn. Maybe it’s seasonal, but wouldn’t this be considered a business oriented route? Are routes that are primarily business typically so seasonal?

SgtBarone wrote:

MIA-OMA was originally scheduled to end on August 21. Is it going seasonal now?

Correct. AA decided to bring it back as seasonal.

CIDFlyer wrote:

RSW-MIA is a good add to feed MIA. Anyone wanting to go south out of RSW had to seriously back track. Will this be on 50 seaters or a larger RJ?

E175 twice daily

Guess SRQ people will have to go south...BEFORE going south

Dominion301 wrote:

enilria wrote:

ahj2000 wrote:

3)I’m not sure that it is OAK on a downhill. OGG also lost some SFO and SJC frequencies.

They lost Level, BA, and some DY service, although I suspect DY will grow more in time.

Given what an incredible tear the past couple of years OAK and SJC were both on, something had to give. I agree, DY will continue to gradually grow OAK.

And LEVEL hopping over to SFO wasn’t due to an inability to fill its flights @ OAK. As for BA, it was flying too big an aircraft from the wrong London airport. B787 LHR service would have had a very different impact/response from travelers on both ends.

AA adding Lga-Nas seems odd with both Delta & Jetblue in the market plus Delta recently upgrade to 2x daily to match JetBlue out of JFK......I don't see AA sticking it out long...

MID ATL didn’t last long at all.

BenflysDTW wrote:

Not surprised by the DL PDX cuts from DTW, I think it will be seasonal again after the exit by AS.

The fact that they have 1 daily r/t scheduled in January is an improvement from years past when DL was strongly seasonal. I am now not even sure what AS is doing right now with some of their choices.

I'm a bit embarrassed to ask...I should know this but 1.0 means daily, right? So what does this mean?
AS SJC-GDL JAN 0.7>1.0 FEB 0.7>1.0 MAR 0.7>1.0
AS SJC-SJD JAN 0.7>0.9 FEB 0.7>0.9

If you're talking about a seven-day week and daily is 1.0 then why is the number divided into tenths?

ahj2000 wrote:

1) the trend of AA adding mid- and small-city Midwest destinations out of Charlotte continues. Some of the first Obed have done fantastic and have been upgraded.
2) While Miami has a lot of growth for AA this time around, I think Hobby is the most interesting. Shows they’re finally ready to go beyond DFW. Is CLT or ORD next?
3)I’m not sure that it is OAK on a downhill. OGG also lost some SFO and SJC frequencies.
4) All these Singapore frequencies seem like a lot for a market they’re just starting, especially given it has no Y...

SBN-CLT was kind of a surprise as our airport asked AA for SBN-DFW which is actually starting to do as expected and is building and starting to sell the First Class seats but what is a real surprise is that SBN-CLT is also building up after just a month of service and should also do well. When the pitch was made to American to resume American Eagle flights in SBN the airport informed them that we were flying an average of 65 passengers a day to Texas. American finally said OK and gave SBN 2 flights a day on 65 passenger CRJ-700's. in addition they threw in a bonus of 2 flights a day to CLT. Well on SBN-DFW the first month is averaging 57 passengers per flight and sometimes the afternoon flight is completely full. So SBN is doubling what they guaranteed to AA for DFW. It would be interesting to know the mix of business vs leisure passengers per flight as I suspect most of DFW's passengers are higher profit potential O/D flyers.

phatfarmlines wrote:

enilria wrote:

*AA MIA-RSW DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>2 FEB 0>2 MAR 0>2

I can't remember when MIA-RSW got cut. Was this when the ATRs were retired from MIA ops?

The route stuck around for a bit post-ATR retirement (I think on 145s) but not for terribly long before AA cut it. They brought it back for a a short period (a week or two perhaps?) over the Christmas period last year, so interesting to see it coming back as regularly scheduled (albeit potentially seasonally?). Before the merger, this felt like a necessary route for AA as otherwise you had to route via ORD or DFW, but now that the merged AA has CLT, MIA-RSW doesn't feel as critical. Nonetheless happy to see it back.

hiflyeras wrote:

I'm a bit embarrassed to ask...I should know this but 1.0 means daily, right? So what does this mean?
AS SJC-GDL JAN 0.7>1.0 FEB 0.7>1.0 MAR 0.7>1.0
AS SJC-SJD JAN 0.7>0.9 FEB 0.7>0.9

If you're talking about a seven-day week and daily is 1.0 then why is the number divided into tenths?

0.7 rounds to 5x weekly.

RWA380 wrote:

BenflysDTW wrote:

Not surprised by the DL PDX cuts from DTW, I think it will be seasonal again after the exit by AS.

The fact that they have 1 daily r/t scheduled in January is an improvement from years past when DL was strongly seasonal. I am now not even sure what AS is doing right now with some of their choices.

Alaska and Spirit kind of scared Delta a little bit. I think if Delta goes seasonal again, Spirit in particular would make a move to undercut Delta. They have successfully undercutted Delta on several routes that they co-operate on at DTW. This fall is a great example, they’ll (Spirit) fly 4x daily to RSW whilst DL will fly only 2. NK and DL will draw at TPA with 3x each. They fly OAK without DL too. It’s also worth noting that NK has officially taken over 10% of DTW’s market share. PBI and MBJ are punctual. Not to mention LAX staying at 2x daily over the winter. MCO and RSW will both be 4x daily.

TWA772LR wrote:

MIA-HOU is very interesting.

I remember when Pan Am left IAH for HOU and HOU-MIA was operated, and TranStar used to operate that as well. Has it really been 27 years since anyone operated HOU-MIA?

hiflyeras wrote:

I'm a bit embarrassed to ask...I should know this but 1.0 means daily, right? So what does this mean?
AS SJC-GDL JAN 0.7>1.0 FEB 0.7>1.0 MAR 0.7>1.0
AS SJC-SJD JAN 0.7>0.9 FEB 0.7>0.9

If you're talking about a seven-day week and daily is 1.0 then why is the number divided into tenths?

It is explained right in the FAQ at the top of this thread (and every week for many many years). Probably worth reading the whole FAQ to make sure there are not other items you may have missed.

enilria wrote:

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Flights that do not operate every day of the month create fractional service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. For example, if a flight operates 4 times in April it will show 4/30=0.133=0.1. Also , a flight that only operates once per week may vary between 0.1 and 0.2 because a weekday may repeat either 4 or 5 times depending on the month.

ty97 wrote:

phatfarmlines wrote:

enilria wrote:

*AA MIA-RSW DEC 0>0.8 JAN 0>2 FEB 0>2 MAR 0>2

I can't remember when MIA-RSW got cut. Was this when the ATRs were retired from MIA ops?

The route stuck around for a bit post-ATR retirement (I think on 145s) but not for terribly long before AA cut it. They brought it back for a a short period (a week or two perhaps?) over the Christmas period last year, so interesting to see it coming back as regularly scheduled (albeit potentially seasonally?). Before the merger, this felt like a necessary route for AA as otherwise you had to route via ORD or DFW, but now that the merged AA has CLT, MIA-RSW doesn't feel as critical. Nonetheless happy to see it back.

I really don't see the point of this route.
It is a 2-hour drive from RSW to MIA and the international fares are generally much lower with a MIA origin.
AA should have started an RSW-MIA bus (The AAirbus????) not wasted E75 block time on this.
I wish them luck however...

usflyer msp wrote:

ty97 wrote:

phatfarmlines wrote:

I can't remember when MIA-RSW got cut. Was this when the ATRs were retired from MIA ops?

The route stuck around for a bit post-ATR retirement (I think on 145s) but not for terribly long before AA cut it. They brought it back for a a short period (a week or two perhaps?) over the Christmas period last year, so interesting to see it coming back as regularly scheduled (albeit potentially seasonally?). Before the merger, this felt like a necessary route for AA as otherwise you had to route via ORD or DFW, but now that the merged AA has CLT, MIA-RSW doesn't feel as critical. Nonetheless happy to see it back.

I really don't see the point of this route.
It is a 2-hour drive from RSW to MIA and the international fares are generally much lower with a MIA origin.
AA should have started an RSW-MIA bus (The AAirbus????) not wasted E75 block time on this.
I wish them luck however...

It’s a feeder route to Europe and the Caribbean.

flymco753 wrote:

RWA380 wrote:

BenflysDTW wrote:

Not surprised by the DL PDX cuts from DTW, I think it will be seasonal again after the exit by AS.

The fact that they have 1 daily r/t scheduled in January is an improvement from years past when DL was strongly seasonal. I am now not even sure what AS is doing right now with some of their choices.

Alaska and Spirit kind of scared Delta a little bit. I think if Delta goes seasonal again, Spirit in particular would make a move to undercut Delta. They have successfully undercutted Delta on several routes that they co-operate on at DTW. This fall is a great example, they’ll (Spirit) fly 4x daily to RSW whilst DL will fly only 2. NK and DL will draw at TPA with 3x each. They fly OAK without DL too. It’s also worth noting that NK has officially taken over 10% of DTW’s market share. PBI and MBJ are punctual. Not to mention LAX staying at 2x daily over the winter. MCO and RSW will both be 4x daily.

You know when DL tells the investor community that they are going to slow down rate of expansion (and have fewer flights) with the higher fuel prices? They said domestic RASM only went up 2.4% whereas TATL went up 10% and TPAC went up 8%. Now I think TPAC is due to cutting all these underperforming NRT routes and the likes of SEA-HKG. But domestic is where the cuts will be. They are clearly not slowing down growth of new focus cities like RDU (or SEA/BOS for that matter). So that means MSP and DTW will see the hits. NK has a real chance at DTW. They are not getting price matched to death by Basic economy like they are in UA/AA hubs. That's why you see them shifting growth to DL and WN hubs/focus cities.

Maybe if NK expand even more, DL will finally pay a little more attention to DTW.

Holy moly that AA GRR-MIA add is interesting. It's a 1200mi three hour flight on an E175 and leaves at 6:05AM, which is less than ideal (I'd have to leave my house by about 3:30AM to make the flight), but it's dirt cheap. Basic economy at the end of January is $200 R/T.

A comparable trip on DL leaving around the same time is $25 more and requires a connection in Detroit, so it arrives two hours later. DL is the home team in Detroit and will pick up FF traffic, but for the price-conscious and schedule-conscious people who aren't SkyMiles members, AA is going to eat DL's lunch on Spring Break traffic.

Thank you! Yes, realized after I posted I should have looked there first. My bad....

enilria wrote:

hiflyeras wrote:

I'm a bit embarrassed to ask...I should know this but 1.0 means daily, right? So what does this mean?
AS SJC-GDL JAN 0.7>1.0 FEB 0.7>1.0 MAR 0.7>1.0
AS SJC-SJD JAN 0.7>0.9 FEB 0.7>0.9

If you're talking about a seven-day week and daily is 1.0 then why is the number divided into tenths?

It is explained right in the FAQ at the top of this thread (and every week for many many years). Probably worth reading the whole FAQ to make sure there are not other items you may have missed.

enilria wrote:

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Flights that do not operate every day of the month create fractional service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. For example, if a flight operates 4 times in April it will show 4/30=0.133=0.1. Also , a flight that only operates once per week may vary between 0.1 and 0.2 because a weekday may repeat either 4 or 5 times depending on the month.

Very interesting..I have been saying how much we need Intra-Florida and by much of that I mean more connections by air to the hubs. I had been hoping for B6 RSW or SRQ-FLL but it looks like AA is the first to see the importance. B6 come on now!

Also looks like DUS is a bit more popular for EW than MUC..still 6 a week though so that's good. Nothing exciting for DTW in my book, NK is making a smart move but I don't fly them and I certainly don't steer anyone to them. My only excitement there, is that NK could finally wake up DL to stop forgetting about DTW.

If AS is making cutbacks in some key Hawaii markets, how does WN think it will fare? Sure, it'll have more connecting traffic in SJC and OAK, but if AS is having trouble, this won't be easy for WN (if and when they finally get ETOPS approval).

Dupe...

usflyer msp wrote:

ty97 wrote:

phatfarmlines wrote:

I can't remember when MIA-RSW got cut. Was this when the ATRs were retired from MIA ops?

The route stuck around for a bit post-ATR retirement (I think on 145s) but not for terribly long before AA cut it. They brought it back for a a short period (a week or two perhaps?) over the Christmas period last year, so interesting to see it coming back as regularly scheduled (albeit potentially seasonally?). Before the merger, this felt like a necessary route for AA as otherwise you had to route via ORD or DFW, but now that the merged AA has CLT, MIA-RSW doesn't feel as critical. Nonetheless happy to see it back.

I really don't see the point of this route.
It is a 2-hour drive from RSW to MIA and the international fares are generally much lower with a MIA origin.
AA should have started an RSW-MIA bus (The AAirbus????) not wasted E75 block time on this.
I wish them luck however...

No different than DFW-ACT, ORD-MKE, CLT-CAE... The last thing most passengers want after a long range flight is to sit for another 2-3 hours in a car or bus in traffic to their final destination unless they have no choice, now there's a choice for RSW passengers wanting those MIA hub routes (AA or AA+OA mix), and those that want the extra convenience will pay the premium on it if they wish... (the rest will continue driving).

RWA380 wrote:

BenflysDTW wrote:

Not surprised by the DL PDX cuts from DTW, I think it will be seasonal again after the exit by AS.

The fact that they have 1 daily r/t scheduled in January is an improvement from years past when DL was strongly seasonal. I am now not even sure what AS is doing right now with some of their choices.

The other interesting aspect is that historically the PDX to DTW flight on DL was operated once daily as a red-eye. When AS added PDX to DTW service (also as a red-eye flight on AS), DL bumped their frequency up to 2x daily with the second frequency being a midday flight. That added midday flight is the one that is being kept.

I find this interesting because:
1. PDX to DTW flyers no longer have to endure a red-eye as the only direct option.
2. Either pax volumes are very low on the route, or higher fuel prices mean that red-eye plane utilization is just not as important as it once was. Network wide, it used to be that DL would try to fly as many west-coast to east-coast red eyes as they could (even if they were half full).... just for plane utilization purposes. This red-eye opportunity flying must not be as justifiable now, with routes like PDX-DTW seeing their redeyes being dropped.

Thanks again for all this great work Enilria. DL is reducing flights to LHR from BOS and DTW, but LHR is the one airport I can't see a slot sitting empty. Are there any DL adds to LHR somewhere that I missed?

So GRR, PVD, and BUF get nonstop service to MIA yet AA REFUSES to add MKE. Their service from MKE is really awful. They don't fly to the MIA or DCA hubs where as they fly to both of those hubs from many other cities that are smaller. They also refuse to fly to LAX from MKE. I really do not understand AA's philosophy at all.