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Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:36 pm

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... solidation

This looks kinda similar to IAG with LEVEL operations out of Barcelona, which are on the hands of Iberia.
Main benefit? Operations are secured with the strengths of a whole long-haul fleet to solve any contingency.
All the big groups of European carriers seem to have interesting projects regarding its long-haul-low-cost airlines/brands

Lufthansa Group: Brussels/Eurowings
Air France/KLM: Joon
IAG: LEVEL

Which one has more chances to be leader of this market in your opinion?
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:25 am

LH Group has the better chances. They should get some staff who worked for the old LTU / Ar Berlin and with DUS s the main base they can build on an decades old Operation with a proven market base and litttle direct competition. The Backbone will be Carribbean and Far Eastern Holiday routes whereas the others start from Zero, fishing in foreign Ponds.
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:35 am

To do this, they should have gotten the AB 330’s as well
 
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:20 am

What about the EW brand operated by SN taking over the OS long-haul operations? It's clear what the premium airlines are within the Group now: LH (DLH) and LX.
 
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:21 am

Weren't them going to merge Brussels into Eurowing?
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:36 am

So why is Lufthansa not just ordering new A330neos for them or maybe 787-9? Their current leased fleet is too diverse, old and unreliable to be operated at some lowcost airline.
 
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:40 am

With all the competition OS will get in the coming period from LaudaMotion, Level and Wizz it looks as they will be the next to merge into EW.
 
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:42 am

If you consider that all these are barely providing the capacity that Niki/Air Berlin provided at VIE OS has every chance do handle it.
 
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:47 am

seahawk wrote:
If you consider that all these are barely providing the capacity that Niki/Air Berlin provided at VIE OS has every chance do handle it.


http://aeronauticsonline.com/farnboroug ... y-2-recap/
New Austrian carrier LEVEL has announced an order for two additional A330-200s. The deal was originally made in June but hasn’t been revealed until now.

If this is true, OS may face a new competitor also on longhaul-routes ex VIE... :roll:
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:20 pm

PanHAM wrote:
LH Group has the better chances. They should get some staff who worked for the old LTU / Ar Berlin and with DUS s the main base they can build on an decades old Operation with a proven market base and litttle direct competition. The Backbone will be Carribbean and Far Eastern Holiday routes whereas the others start from Zero, fishing in foreign Ponds.


LTU was an incredibly inefficient operation the failed integration of which was one of the main reasons for Air Berlin's foundering.
 
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:49 pm

a350lover wrote:
Lufthansa Group: Brussels/Eurowings
Air France/KLM: Joon
IAG: LEVEL

While BRU is certainly no CDG or LHR, the risk of this strategy is that it leaves BRU without a full-service long-haul carrier, if Brussels Airlines' service level continues to be lowered towards Eurowings. Elite frequent fliers are already wondering, loudly, why they earn Eurowings-level frequent flier miles on fares similar to Lufthansa/BA/Air France on all Brussels Airlines flights?

c933103 wrote:
Weren't them going to merge Brussels into Eurowing?

Replacing the Brussels Airlines brand by Eurowings was, at one time, an option on the table. And may yet be.
As far as the legal structure of the group is concerned, Brussels Airlines is a subsidiary of Eurowings. What today's announcement is about is distributing core competencies among the units of Eurowings, recognizing what each is (perceived to be) good at. A few months ago already, Lufthansa also announced that Brussels Airlines would take over sales, marketing, and strategic development for Africa routes for the entire Lufthansa Group.
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:04 pm

Noshow wrote:
So why is Lufthansa not just ordering new A330neos for them or maybe 787-9? Their current leased fleet is too diverse, old and unreliable to be operated at some lowcost airline.


Spohr wants SN to make profit, real profit. Same goes for OS.
 
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:22 pm

aviationaware wrote:
PanHAM wrote:
LH Group has the better chances. They should get some staff who worked for the old LTU / Ar Berlin and with DUS s the main base they can build on an decades old Operation with a proven market base and litttle direct competition. The Backbone will be Carribbean and Far Eastern Holiday routes whereas the others start from Zero, fishing in foreign Ponds.


LTU was an incredibly inefficient operation the failed integration of which was one of the main reasons for Air Berlin's foundering.


You totally missed my Point. The Long haul ops ex DUS served an existing market which s still there to be served. . That the new owner LH will not repeat Management mistaked of the old LTU or Air Berlin can be taken for granted.. That they mean Business Shows the fact that they Keep the European and the Long haul ops separately. The jjob of Brussels Airlines is to make Money, as is the Job of any LH owned Group carrier.
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:28 pm

I wonder if this will finally allow service into *A hubs.... DUS-ORD would be a great route to come back... especially from a German or EU carrier because the POS is so skewed to that geographical area.
 
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Re: Eurowings to consolidate its core in short-haul low cost, leaving long-haul for Brussels Airlines

Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:53 pm

LH has more money to invest, IMHO Eurowings/Brussel Airlines wil have the best chance to succeed.
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