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avgeekjohn
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Italian Government Wants to De-Privatize Alitalia

Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:50 pm

Italy wants to take a majority stake in Alitalia and turn it into a "flag carrier" of sorts. They still want private investors to take up to 49% of the carrier.

http://aeronauticsonline.com/italian-government-looks-to-de-privatize-alitalia/

Thoughts?
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Re: Italian Government Wants to De-Privatize Alitalia

Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:57 pm

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Re: Italian Government Wants to De-Privatize Alitalia

Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:10 pm

avgeekjohn wrote:
They still want private investors to take up to 49% of the carrier.

Thoughts?


Ha ha? I’m guessing at this point they’ve run out of suckers willing to put up any meaningful money. Sounds like it’s time (yet again and again and again...) to put this airline to rest for good.
 
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Re: Italian Government Wants to De-Privatize Alitalia

Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:32 pm

I must say that it's a logical step forward.
Italy has seen many airlines fail in recent times. Air Italy isn't going to achieve anything with their mindset.
The Italian institutions are notorious for the bureaucratic burden that they impose on private companies. Even more so in aviation.
However, in recent times, public entities like Trenitalia have seen major progress with a lot of good competence at their heads. Gone are the times where trains used to look like gypsy wagons from before WWII, Trenitalia now has a modern and beautiful fleet of trains, with airconditioning and everything that even Northern European countries envy. Trains run on schedule, ticket purchases are automated and accept all types of cards.
This is not the Trenitalia of even a decade ago.

Alitalia itself is also improving. Their recent on-time records are the best of Europe, they can't seem to lose luggages anymore and the customer service exists.
There is still a lot of room for improvement but the liquidators are doing a good job and they might as well become the new managers under a nationalised airline.
If that level of competence is maintained, I can see AZ becoming a very good airline. That's something that doesn't exist in Europe anymore. There is a huge disconnect between the offer and the demand when it comes to expected levels of services versus provided levels of service.
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moa999
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Re: Italian Government Wants to De-Privatize Alitalia

Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:36 pm

So no control.
And the majority shareholder is the government which has been historically pretty unstable, and beholden to other objectives.
 
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Re: Italian Government Wants to De-Privatize Alitalia

Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:45 pm

 
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Re: Italian Government Wants to De-Privatize Alitalia

Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:47 pm

Italy derives a lot of revenue from tourism. The low yield nature of its tourism traffic is why it’s hard to make money. If one of the European carriers gets real control of AZ they will eliminate most of the long haul and force it over their European hubs. That will reduce international tourism, perhaps dramatically. It’s happened before in other countries due to mergers. Perhaps Italy feels its worth losing on the airline to make money on the economic impact of tourism.
 
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Re: Italian Government Wants to De-Privatize Alitalia

Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:53 pm

This is being well discussed in the existing AZ restructuring thread

See >>>
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1360383
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Re: Italian Government Wants to De-Privatize Alitalia

Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:10 pm

Just let Alitalia die already. Someone else who has a clue about running an airline can take their place.
 
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Re: Italian Government Wants to De-Privatize Alitalia

Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:42 pm

richcam427 wrote:
Just let Alitalia die already. Someone else who has a clue about running an airline can take their place.


I think many would argue that Ryanair has already taken their place in many regards, but I completely agree - let them go the way of AirBerlin.

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