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wiggy
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Re: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:39 am

what a heads and tails of a rumour
 
Fixinthe757
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Re: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:51 am

To make it easier for you after all those very lengthy and off topic replies, they are being built for FedEx and the tanker program, which is an obvious waste as they will likely not fly anytime in this decade. Should've stuck with the A330 tanker
 
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Re: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:56 am

Fixinthe757 wrote:
To make it easier for you after all those very lengthy and off topic replies, they are being built for FedEx and the tanker program, which is an obvious waste as they will likely not fly anytime in this decade. Should've stuck with the A330 tanker


The Tanker is going to deliver in October. Sounds like you don’t know what you are talking about. Sure, the delays are frustrating, especially to those who worked very hard on the program, but your comments are neither accurate or warranted.
 
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Re: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:59 am

wiggy wrote:
what a heads and tails of a rumour


What rumor? It was answered several times in this thread. Several airlines inquired about buying new 767-300ERs with the FedEx display system. Boeing ran the business case and it didn’t pan out.

Right now only the 767-300F and 767-2C/KC-46 are available.
 
Fixinthe757
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Re: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:07 am

Say what you want, we've been hearing it'll fly this month, this year, last month, last year, blah blah blah. It won't go into service this year. At least FedEx is getting theirs often
 
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Re: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:13 am

Fixinthe757 wrote:
Say what you want, we've been hearing it'll fly this month, this year, last month, last year, blah blah blah. It won't go into service this year. At least FedEx is getting theirs often


How exactly do you know that? Do you work on the KC-46 program?

Tell me what remaining problems are holding up delivery.

BTW, it’s been flying for several years.
 
Fixinthe757
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Re: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:22 am

Look at my post, it says IN SERVICE. Report was out a couple months ago from Boeing that says it's not likely going to be in service until early part of next year. It may be flying, but it's not operational. Again, I'll believe it when I see it.
 
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Re: Why is Boeing still offering new Boeing 767s and why? Who is buying them?

Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:09 am

oldannyboy wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:
jeffrey0032j wrote:
Almost 40 years with no major changes (sure there are incremental changes but nothing of a NG/MAX/neo magnitude). It just keeps going.


There was a huge engine change in the late 1980s when the 767-300ER came out. The marketing teams didn’t make as big of a deal as Airbus/Boeing do nowadays, but that was a big engine upgrade and 50% range increase.

If you compare the CF6-80C2 to the original CF6-80A, the changes are similar to what the CFM56 to LeapX in scope. Similar with the JT9D to PW4000. 20% increase in thrust, larger fan diameter, higher pressure ratio, higher bypass ratio, etc.


:checkmark:

Yes, for some reason they kept things quiet. If anything of the magnitude (PW JT9D vs PW4000) was done today, the type would probably get a new name and new house livery!


Pratt for some reason is quite in love with the PW4000 moniker. Pratt has made changes to the PW4000 over time. The Pratt 409x was very competitive with the GE90 and the RR Trent throughout (except for reliability). I dont know why Pratt didn't change names along the way to emphasize the distinctions.

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