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enilria wrote:**DL DTW-SJC NOV 0>0.5[0] DEC 0>1.0[0] JAN 0>1.0[0] FEB 0>1.0[0] MAR 0>1.0[0] APR 0>1.0[0]
tphuang wrote:Thanks enilria,
Ha, I was expecting more cuts this week after the earnings reports!
Interesting that Delta is moving OAK capacity from LAX to SLC. Maybe having both WN/NK on there is too much.
BenflysDTW wrote:There will be more regional drops by DL from DTW, there are usually a couple a year. The pace will pick up when the 200’s are facing their last breaths.
msycajun wrote:Thank you as always for the report.
AVLAirlineFreq wrote:Thanks as always, enilria!
enilria wrote:DL ATL-HPN JAN 5>5[4]
enilria wrote:AS OF JULY 2018 THERE ARE CHANGES TO THE FORMAT OF THIS REPORT...SEE BELOW
enilria wrote:DL ATL-MHT JAN 1.0>0.1[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.5[1.0]
ericm2031 wrote:Surprised DL is dropping LAX-OAK. They seemed to be building it up over the years with large RJ's and then some 717's.
N292UX wrote:About time UA started IAD-MIA. That route should be successful you would think judging by the lack of IAD-Florida competition
And FYI, it appears IAD-MIA will be on an A319
LotsaRunway wrote:enilria wrote:AS OF JULY 2018 THERE ARE CHANGES TO THE FORMAT OF THIS REPORT...SEE BELOW
Thanks as always for doing these reports and nice new modification. It will take me a little while to get my eyes used to the new format, but I do like it!enilria wrote:DL ATL-MHT JAN 1.0>0.1[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.5[1.0]
Ouch! another hit for MHT. Looks like DL is taking a 6-week vacation rather than downsizing aircraft.
With recent cuts, there is no way MHT can avoid another significant year over year passenger drop unless somebody adds something to somewhere. Losing connectivity to two of the worlds largest hubs, even for just six weeks is a big blow.
enilria wrote:DL JFK-SNA OCT 0.7>0.5[0]
enilria wrote:tphuang wrote:Thanks enilria,
Ha, I was expecting more cuts this week after the earnings reports!
Interesting that Delta is moving OAK capacity from LAX to SLC. Maybe having both WN/NK on there is too much.
You're welcome
OAK extends its recent losing streak. I guess too much too fast. Still surprising to see DL back off anything in LAX. They moved TUL and OAK capacity to SLC. Seems odd.
Yeah, I do wonder where the capacity cuts are. Maybe already baked in? September is a month away.
LotsaRunway wrote:enilria wrote:AS OF JULY 2018 THERE ARE CHANGES TO THE FORMAT OF THIS REPORT...SEE BELOW
Thanks as always for doing these reports and nice new modification. It will take me a little while to get my eyes used to the new format, but I do like it!
LAXdude1023 wrote:It’s about time for UA to add IAD-MIA. That’s been a giant hole in the network.
Planeboy17 wrote:The new information is great. Thanks again for taking the time and effort to provide this great information Enilria!!
TW870 wrote:enilria wrote:tphuang wrote:Thanks enilria,
Ha, I was expecting more cuts this week after the earnings reports!
Interesting that Delta is moving OAK capacity from LAX to SLC. Maybe having both WN/NK on there is too much.
You're welcome
OAK extends its recent losing streak. I guess too much too fast. Still surprising to see DL back off anything in LAX. They moved TUL and OAK capacity to SLC. Seems odd.
Yeah, I do wonder where the capacity cuts are. Maybe already baked in? September is a month away.
If I understand correctly, the capacity cuts that DL announced are cuts to the growth that had been projected, not an actual net reduction over the current capacity. My understanding is that this means we will see some new routes that were in the works not launch, that we will see some cuts to existing routes, but that we will also see new capacity coming online. The bottom line is it least from the way I read it, I am not expecting to see many notable new cuts.
enilria wrote:
UA SFO-STS JAN 3>1.0[3] FEB 3>1.0[3]
chrisnh wrote:LotsaRunway wrote:enilria wrote:AS OF JULY 2018 THERE ARE CHANGES TO THE FORMAT OF THIS REPORT...SEE BELOW
Thanks as always for doing these reports and nice new modification. It will take me a little while to get my eyes used to the new format, but I do like it!enilria wrote:DL ATL-MHT JAN 1.0>0.1[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.5[1.0]
Ouch! another hit for MHT. Looks like DL is taking a 6-week vacation rather than downsizing aircraft.
With recent cuts, there is no way MHT can avoid another significant year over year passenger drop unless somebody adds something to somewhere. Losing connectivity to two of the worlds largest hubs, even for just six weeks is a big blow.
BenflysDTW wrote:There will be more regional drops by DL from DTW, there are usually a couple a year. The pace will pick up when the 200’s are facing their last breaths.
DiamondFlyer wrote:BenflysDTW wrote:There will be more regional drops by DL from DTW, there are usually a couple a year. The pace will pick up when the 200’s are facing their last breaths.
There is no plan to park any more 200s at this point that has been announced by Delta.
tphuang wrote:Thanks enilria,
Ha, I was expecting more cuts this week after the earnings reports!
Interesting that Delta is moving OAK capacity from LAX to SLC. Maybe having both WN/NK on there is too much.
enilria wrote:tphuang wrote:Thanks enilria,
Ha, I was expecting more cuts this week after the earnings reports!
Interesting that Delta is moving OAK capacity from LAX to SLC. Maybe having both WN/NK on there is too much.
You're welcome
OAK extends its recent losing streak. I guess too much too fast. Still surprising to see DL back off anything in LAX. They moved TUL and OAK capacity to SLC. Seems odd.
Yeah, I do wonder where the capacity cuts are. Maybe already baked in? September is a month away.
flyingqueen wrote:This report is great. Thank You. How can you do it for the world? For major airlines? Too hard?
winstonavgeek wrote:IAD to MIA looks to be seasonal as the last flight that shows up in the timetables is March 30th, maybe United wants to test the waters a bit?
grbauc wrote:tphuang wrote:Thanks enilria,
Ha, I was expecting more cuts this week after the earnings reports!
Interesting that Delta is moving OAK capacity from LAX to SLC. Maybe having both WN/NK on there is too much.
That is a shame. Has far has the connection/part SLC makes better routing. But LAX OAK since WN chased UA and AS out has it all to themselves and look to again. UGGG ive been pretty pro delta with there working to make a presence in the North South market. I really hope this isn't a bigger signal change.
Fares were cheaper LAX OAK vs SFO for me most times. I still used SFO it had more flight options. AA has fewer and smaller planes.
enilria wrote:**DL DTW-TUL OCT 0.8>0[0.9] NOV 0.5>0[0.9] DEC 0.8>0[0.8] JAN 0.8>0[0.8] FEB 0.9>0[0.8] MAR 0.8>0[0.8] APR 0.9>0[0.9]
DL SLC-TUL OCT 1.0>1.7[1.0] NOV 1.0>1.8[1.0] DEC 1.0>2[1.0] JAN 1.0>2[1.0] FEB 1.0>2[1.0] MAR 1.0>2[1.0] APR 1.0>2[1.0]
grbauc wrote:enilria wrote:tphuang wrote:Thanks enilria,
Ha, I was expecting more cuts this week after the earnings reports!
Interesting that Delta is moving OAK capacity from LAX to SLC. Maybe having both WN/NK on there is too much.
You're welcome
OAK extends its recent losing streak. I guess too much too fast. Still surprising to see DL back off anything in LAX. They moved TUL and OAK capacity to SLC. Seems odd.
Yeah, I do wonder where the capacity cuts are. Maybe already baked in? September is a month away.
Maybe its to help LAX capacity relief? till and while construction is going on?
MARSHAL1 wrote:United served MIA-IAD and ended it in May 2014 along with MIA-CLE. I wonder why they think it's a good idea to bring it back.
BenflysDTW wrote:DiamondFlyer wrote:BenflysDTW wrote:There will be more regional drops by DL from DTW, there are usually a couple a year. The pace will pick up when the 200’s are facing their last breaths.
There is no plan to park any more 200s at this point that has been announced by Delta.
For now yes, but by 2025...
And of course this effects other airports and by just DTW, but it’s really a shame.
flymco753 wrote:
End TUL, LIT, and HSV. These single daily RJ flights with an average LF of 66% or less isn’t helping boost passenger traffic. Upgague OKC to 717s or A319s and begin ICT with a CRJ-700. That would be more worthwhile than holding on to 3 terrible markets.
MIflyer12 wrote:BenflysDTW wrote:DiamondFlyer wrote:
There is no plan to park any more 200s at this point that has been announced by Delta.
For now yes, but by 2025...
And of course this effects other airports and by just DTW, but it’s really a shame.
Actually, the 12/17 Investor Day presentation implied there would be only about 50 CR2s in 2023.
DiamondFlyer wrote:MIflyer12 wrote:BenflysDTW wrote:For now yes, but by 2025...
And of course this effects other airports and by just DTW, but it’s really a shame.
Actually, the 12/17 Investor Day presentation implied there would be only about 50 CR2s in 2023.
Sure, by 2023. To imply there is going to be any additional parking of CRJ2's by the end of 2018, without an announcement, is a stretch. I'd count on most of the CR2 parking happening Dec 31, 2019... And no one has been able to answer, do the At-Risk/EAS OO birds count in that number.
flymco753 wrote:Never mind about ending HSV-DTW, the flight is being upgauged from a CRJ to a CJ7. TUL and LIT are the 2 that don't necessarily serve a purpose that can't be served through ATL. ROA and LSE got funding for DL to start DTW which would be decent choices as returning services. Both would require backtracks when connecting in ATL or MSP.End TUL, LIT, and HSV. These single daily RJ flights with an average LF of 66% or less isn’t helping boost passenger traffic. Upgague OKC to 717s or A319s and begin ICT with a CRJ-700. That would be more worthwhile than holding on to 3 terrible markets.
MARSHAL1 wrote:United served MIA-IAD and ended it in May 2014 along with MIA-CLE. I wonder why they think it's a good idea to bring it back.