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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:09 pm

Qantas has struck an agreement with the federal government over 457 visa crackdown for oversea pilots

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Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:22 pm

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hope they consider installing the XZ fleet product on some of the older 737s which are in dire need of a freshen up.


All the 737s are getting WiFi, and they've all got the same seat coverings and plastic J-Y divider.

All the BSI has is blue lights and rounded plastic. The IFE units in the BSI and a few non-BSI are already dated - BYO is definitely the future for shorthaul - saves weight and costs.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:36 pm

Celebrating 30 years of the Starlight Children's Foundation and as official wishgranting partner VA threw a party at 30000 feet for 12 Starlight Wish Kids and their families

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Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:47 pm

Around 430am on Friday morning EK421 PER-DXB departed (originally was suppose to depart Wednesday night), however the aircraft being A6-EDC pushed back from gate and returned back to gate shortly after

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:49 pm

At the CAPA summit in Sydney last week the MD of ADL airport said in the short term they are looking at low cost carriers in Asia along with growing with existing airlines. In the medium term they are hoping for a non-stop US west coast flight

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:53 pm

The latest 789 for Qantas, VH-ZNF was spotted on the flightline at PAE a few days ago prior to being moved to the fuel dock

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Sun Aug 05, 2018 3:57 pm

Qantas marks 4 months serving PER-LHR

Some fast facts

244 flights
57,000 passengers
170,000 meals
26,000 Tim Tams
3,539,512 km's travelled

https://twitter.com/Qantas/status/1025184898485760000
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:19 pm

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aldrigsomandre wrote:
Why do the ME3 have mixed results when it comes to PER? Some make it work, some don't. Always a curious case for me.
It'd be very much appreciated if anyone can shed light on this.

I only fly to JNB from from SYD through PER, so I don't have much PER knowledge.

Please note that this is not a why don't more airlines fly to PER question.


Well EY is having its own issues, not really a Perth one.
However for them QR didnt help when they came into the market... prices were really cheap and its a good product.

I know when I flew EY dragging kids through Abu Dhabi airport at 2am wasnt much fun, however the later QR/EK flights get in around 6am then off to connecting flights.
So seeing QR offering europe for under $1100 return has been pretty common where as when there was just EK/EY most of the time you were looking around $1700.

So I dont really see it as one thing, just a mixture of a few.


EY was also last to the PER market and by that time both EK and QR were both well developed in the market. I agree with waoz1 that the departure time from PER for EY is a bit hit and miss. When EK had the 3 daily flights to PER the one that departed at a similar time to EY was the poor performer, some days it would only depart with 50 passengers hence why it got axed shortly after the A388 started. It is also interesting to note prior to earlier this year neither QR or EK operated into their midnight banks from Australia.

It is also worth noting that while QR is cheaper they also have a very good onboard product and service. They are also very good at stimulating the market, those looking for a cheap fare tend to go QR and I cant say I have ever heard of anything bad said about QR's service. For the first month of A380 ops to PER, outbound from PER the load was around 70% which is quite good for May. From what I am hearing their loads currently are around a minimum 400 in and out of PER, so around a 80% LF, sometimes they are higher.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:22 pm

Came across this photo on twitter of ZND departing PER on Saturday night

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:40 pm

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Most Airports have now released their Year ending June 2018 stats so here is a break down for the top 4

Domestic:
Sydney: 27,636,00 +2.0%
Melbourne: 25,840,000 +2.5%
Brisbane: 17,505,000 +1.55%
Perth: 9,327,038 +1.1% - First FY of domestic growth since 2011 and even better since January Perth Domestic traffic has soared up 4.4% and is now Australia's fastest growing airport for domestic traffic

International
Sydney: 16,372,000 +5.9%
Melbourne: 10,866,000 + 9.4% - Strongest international growth on record, added almost 940,000 passengers in a single year
Brisbane: 5,930,000 +5.1%
Perth: 4,364,573 -.9%


A good proportion of the increase of domestic traffic for PER has been within WA, from a ground crew perspective I have noticed over the past couple of months that traffic within WA has been increasing
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:50 pm

Virgin has not ruled out TT operating Trans-Tasman but it wont happen immediately.

Virgin has also raised concerns about the QF/NZ codeshare deal with the ACCC

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/vir ... eployment/

In fleet news

77W VH-VPD went tech in MEL on Saturday
A332 XFJ positioned to HKG for maintenance late last week
TT should receive their fourth 737 over the next few days
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:15 pm

Tourism WA has launched a $1 million campaign in SYD and MEL encouraging more visitors to WA particularly Margaret River in conjunction with QF and JQ. The campaign started last week and will run until the end of August. As part of the initiative Qantas Holidays is offering 3 nights in a 5 star resort from $289 per person, twin share.

https://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.au/P ... Coast.aspx
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Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:41 pm

I also suspect QRs oneworld status helps against EY given the high proportion of QFF membership
(And a bunch of Gold Plat FIFO workers)
 
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Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:25 pm

Flew on the Rex for the first time in the past weekend and found that to be an amazing experience,

Yes the plane is old but the seat cushion is very comfortable. Seat pitch is better than many of those installed on modern airliners. Very friendly and approachable crew, fast and efficient service. I never expected them to hand out chips and cookies, coffee, tea & water on a 37 min flight!

Being fully aware of the recent sagas that Rex is having, I really hope them best of luck. Personally rating them on par with Qantas and definitely better than any other carriers in Australia. The only shortfall would probably be the LCC-type boarding pass instead of the more conventional one but I guess that's cheaper for them.

ben175 wrote:
Had a wifi equipped QF BSI 738 on MEL-BNE this weekend and the connection was fast, consistent and hugely convenient.

Then I got an old 738 on the return and it really did put into perspective how dated that product is! I really hope they consider installing the XZ fleet product on some of the older 737s which are in dire need of a freshen up.

I think they're installing Wi-Fis on the entire 737 fleet (I could be wrong). In any case, I hope they start replacing the first batch of 737s as soon as possible (they should anyway as the plane's getting tired and old; preferably A320neos but that's just my personal preference :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :stirthepot: )

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:31 pm

TT positioned VH-VNB this morning routing MEL-DRW-CRK as TGG9002. Guess it's another A320's gone.

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Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:43 am

Any ideas on QF1 for 5/8/18 she arrived in Singapore, but the Singapore - London leg is showing as unknown on FR24. I have a friend who should be flying QF 2 that this AC should be operating.If its cancelled / delayed he knows nothing yet .

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Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:47 am

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Any ideas on QF1 for 5/8/18 she arrived in Singapore, but the Singapore - London leg is showing as unknown on FR24. I have a friend who should be flying QF 2 that this AC should be operating.If its cancelled / delayed he knows nothing yet .

AN767


According to the flight status on Qantas.com its been delayed, new departure time is 2330 tonight, the outbound QF2 will be delayed overnight, possibly retuned to a 8am departure or somewhere around there

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/travel-inf ... earch=true
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:19 am

qf789 wrote:
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Any ideas on QF1 for 5/8/18 she arrived in Singapore, but the Singapore - London leg is showing as unknown on FR24. I have a friend who should be flying QF 2 that this AC should be operating.If its cancelled / delayed he knows nothing yet .

AN767


According to the flight status on Qantas.com its been delayed, new departure time is 2330 tonight, the outbound QF2 will be delayed overnight, possibly retuned to a 8am departure or somewhere around there

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/travel-inf ... earch=true


Thanks qf789, i will pass on the good news. Hopefully QF have informed all .
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:09 am

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3. An island carrier, if offering a tag in the opposite direction (FJ on SYD-NLK-NAN)? - though, that'd be cabotage?[/quote
Now this would be a sensible idea from a policy perspective. Possibly would also allow the subsidy to be reduced/removed.


I know it's just a thought you're making, but if FJ were to do something like that, it would be a sure fire way to lose money. Even if they managed to fill the aircraft between SYD and NLK, there would be absolutely no market between NLK and NAN. If they had down time in SYD to slot a SYD/NLK/SYD rotation in, they could perhaps bid for it, but as it stands they don't have the aircraft to do it. I know they have 737 overnights in SYD, but doing a NLK flight on those available times won't happen.


Yeah its just a left/right of centre thought. It will depend heavily on the add-on destination. But depending on the origin, it could be more of a case where the OD pair (eg BNE/SYD to NAN/something else) carries an ok LF, and then the NLK traffic is an add on. A quick stop and go in NLK to let them off and board any new ones and away the plane goes. Probably would have a yield penalty of course.

Or how about this - a combined SYD/BNE-LDH-NLK service? combine two policy outcomes into one.
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:25 am

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qf2220 wrote:


I know it's just a thought you're making, but if FJ were to do something like that, it would be a sure fire way to lose money. Even if they managed to fill the aircraft between SYD and NLK, there would be absolutely no market between NLK and NAN. If they had down time in SYD to slot a SYD/NLK/SYD rotation in, they could perhaps bid for it, but as it stands they don't have the aircraft to do it. I know they have 737 overnights in SYD, but doing a NLK flight on those available times won't happen.


Yeah its just a left/right of centre thought. It will depend heavily on the add-on destination. But depending on the origin, it could be more of a case where the OD pair (eg BNE/SYD to NAN/something else) carries an ok LF, and then the NLK traffic is an add on. A quick stop and go in NLK to let them off and board any new ones and away the plane goes. Probably would have a yield penalty of course.

Or how about this - a combined SYD/BNE-LDH-NLK service? combine two policy outcomes into one.


Pretty sure NLK services carry a fair bit of cargo and a SYD-LDH-NLK service would have to operate on a Q200 and would therefore carry ~no cargo. There is nothing wrong with the current arrangement and I would be shocked to see it change. Even if NZ lose the contract, the new operator will fly BNE/SYD-NLK-BNE/SYD on a 737 or A320.

Unrelated, anyone know why VA35 SYD-DPS stopped in BNE today? It seems to be planned as the aircraft headed straight to BNE from SYD...

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/VOZ35
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:28 am

qf789 wrote:
log0008 wrote:
Most Airports have now released their Year ending June 2018 stats so here is a break down for the top 4

Domestic:
Sydney: 27,636,00 +2.0%
Melbourne: 25,840,000 +2.5%
Brisbane: 17,505,000 +1.55%
Perth: 9,327,038 +1.1% - First FY of domestic growth since 2011 and even better since January Perth Domestic traffic has soared up 4.4% and is now Australia's fastest growing airport for domestic traffic

International
Sydney: 16,372,000 +5.9%
Melbourne: 10,866,000 + 9.4% - Strongest international growth on record, added almost 940,000 passengers in a single year
Brisbane: 5,930,000 +5.1%
Perth: 4,364,573 -.9%


A good proportion of the increase of domestic traffic for PER has been within WA, from a ground crew perspective I have noticed over the past couple of months that traffic within WA has been increasing


Yeah definitely being lead by internal fifo traffic which is great for WA thing finally starting to pick up again even if slowly.
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:42 am

So Just A quick Question Where do you guys think the Qantas school will go

The Short List

Alice Springs, Northern Territory
Bendigo, Victoria
Busselton, Western Australia
Dubbo, New South Wales
Launceston, Tasmania
Mackay, Queensland
Tamworth, New South Wales
Toowoomba, Queensland
Wagga Wagga, New South Wales
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:21 am

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So Just A quick Question Where do you guys think the Qantas school will go

The Short List

Alice Springs, Northern Territory
Bendigo, Victoria
Busselton, Western Australia
Dubbo, New South Wales
Launceston, Tasmania
Mackay, Queensland
Tamworth, New South Wales
Toowoomba, Queensland
Wagga Wagga, New South Wales

All of these locations are suitable. The school will go to whichever location has the best set of concessions from the local council (airport owners) and state government (payroll tax discounts).
717, 721/2, 732/3/4/5/7/8/9, 742/3/4, 752/3, 762/3, 772/E/W, 788/9, 300,310, 319,320/1, 332/3, 359, 388, DC9, DC10, F28, F100, 142,143, E75/90, CR2, D82/3/4, SF3, ATR
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:29 am

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So Just A quick Question Where do you guys think the Qantas school will go ...

According to one article, Alice Springs is favoured but it is likely Qantas will select two sites. Alice Springs is being pitched as an ideal location with wide open air spaces.

See:
- https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/wa-gover ... b88900953z.
- https://www.news.com.au/national/breaki ... f514a694b3.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:19 am

An interesting development - WA and PER officials will be in India this week, to convince airlines to start direct flights to PER.

Specifically on the trip, there'll be:

- Tourism Minister, Paul Papalia
- Perth Airport CEO, Kevin Brown
- Tourism WA’s aviation adviser, Andrew McEvoy

In their sights are Air India, Vistara, IndiGo, Spice Jet, and Jet Airways, with the latter 3 highlighted as the "likely candidates."

See: https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/di ... b88916168z.

With reported financial difficulties being suffered by AI / 9W, what do people think about this? Should UL be targeted instead?

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Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:41 am

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An interesting development - WA and PER officials will be in India this week, to convince airlines to start direct flights to PER.

Specifically on the trip, there'll be:

- Tourism Minister, Paul Papalia
- Perth Airport CEO, Kevin Brown
- Tourism WA’s aviation adviser, Andrew McEvoy

In their sights are Air India, Vistara, IndiGo, Spice Jet, and Jet Airways, with the latter 3 highlighted as the "likely candidates."

See: https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/di ... b88916168z.

With reported financial difficulties being suffered by AI / 9W, what do people think about this? Should UL be targeted instead?

Cheers,

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Hope it will be more fruitful than their recent attempts in Shanghai and Tokyo.

Personally I think AI is the only real candidate to do it. They did it back in the 90s( their second attempt it was).
UL have their entire fleet tied up from memory so I don’t think they are in a position to look at this, however they did say they are considering Sydney after the success of the Melbourne launch.
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:06 am

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In their sights are Air India, Vistara, IndiGo, Spice Jet, and Jet Airways, with the latter 3 highlighted as the "likely candidates."

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Poorly written/researched article IMO. Can't see why IndiGo and Spice Jet are considered 'likely candidates' when the largest and longest range planes they have on order/in their fleet are A321NEO-LR's and 737 MAX's. PER-BOM/DEL are ~9hr flights, so whilst the A321NEO-LR may have the "paper range" do this, its gonna struggle particularly on the westbound leg (PER-BOM/DEL).

Jet Airways has a nice cosy codeshare with QF at SIN, so whilst possible they may fly their own metal, I don't see 9W flying down under anytime soon.
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:14 am

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TT positioned VH-VNB this morning routing MEL-DRW-CRK as TGG9002. Guess it's another A320's gone.

Michael


VNB is over there for maintenance. It will remain with TT for the moment.
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:14 am

Just following on from some of the posts from earlier today, just landed in Singapore and there’s 3 QF A380’s here, one each parked on the C and D gates and there’s a silveroo liveried one parked on the hardstands directly opposite the end of the C gate piers.
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:16 am

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I also suspect QRs oneworld status helps against EY given the high proportion of QFF membership
(And a bunch of Gold Plat FIFO workers)


I'm not 100% sure if this is a reason by itself or not, theoretically EK (booked as QF) and QR, along with QF itself are grabbing QF's flyer base.
EY has all of VA's frequent flyer base to itself in terms of via middle east.

Even though QF has a broader and higher spending base, it's being divided multiple ways.
I think QR is doing well from two angles, it's the QF base for the premium cabins, and the cheap fares filling the excess capacity at the back, Etihad is caught in a bit of a pincer.

Imagine what EY's marketshare would be like if they sold their VA shares and SQ leant on VA to get rid of any agreements with EY, or even just strip back the agreement to a point where it only covered markets where SQ doesn't service, ie Middle East and Africa. EY's place in the Australian market would really be in jeopardy.
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:39 am

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Just following on from some of the posts from earlier today, just landed in Singapore and there’s 3 QF A380’s here, one each parked on the C and D gates and there’s a silveroo liveried one parked on the hardstands directly opposite the end of the C gate piers.


Infact make that 4 as -OQL just arrived. -OQD (the diversion Queen) and -OQE are all parked on gates. Presumably the other silveroo is broken or has a tech issue.
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:37 am

My pick for QF training school is Tamworth
remember the t shirt "I own an airline"on the front - "qantas" on the back
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:18 pm

QF744ER wrote:
QF744ER wrote:
Just following on from some of the posts from earlier today, just landed in Singapore and there’s 3 QF A380’s here, one each parked on the C and D gates and there’s a silveroo liveried one parked on the hardstands directly opposite the end of the C gate piers.


Infact make that 4 as -OQL just arrived. -OQD (the diversion Queen) and -OQE are all parked on gates. Presumably the other silveroo is broken or has a tech issue.


Looks like -OQG was operating Sunday's QF1 but only got as far as SIN and hasn't moved since.

-OQD landed at 1722 as QF2
-OQE landed at 1737 as QF81 (did not realise QF has reinstated double daily A380 SYD-SIN)
-OQL landed at 1909 as QF35
-OQK estimated at 2300 as QF1

QF36 has been delayed from 8pm to 1am which makes me think they'll be switching aircraft around... not quite sure how though.

Probably not helped by the fact -OQH hasn't flown since it landed in SYD ~5 days ago. Not sure if scheduled maintenance or not.
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:25 pm

Turkish Airlines from July 2019 is adding second destination in Indonesia, which sees the airline serving Istanbul – Denpasar route. From 17JUL19, Airbus A330-300 will operate this route 3 times a week (Day 357), increasing to daily from 08AUG19.

TK066 IST0120 – 1930DPS 333 357
TK067 DPS2100 – 0525+1IST 333 357


Source: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... july-2019/

Whilst not directly related to Australian Aviation, expect to see this service carry a fair amount of passengers that will connect on OD to MEL/BNE/PER... The existing services ex-KUL carry some transfer traffic and this will likely increase with this DPS service.
 
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Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:52 pm

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Turkish Airlines from July 2019 is adding second destination in Indonesia, which sees the airline serving Istanbul – Denpasar route. From 17JUL19, Airbus A330-300 will operate this route 3 times a week (Day 357), increasing to daily from 08AUG19.

TK066 IST0120 – 1930DPS 333 357
TK067 DPS2100 – 0525+1IST 333 357


Source: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... july-2019/

Whilst not directly related to Australian Aviation, expect to see this service carry a fair amount of passengers that will connect on OD to MEL/BNE/PER... The existing services ex-KUL carry some transfer traffic and this will likely increase with this DPS service.

Do you have a source showing that they carry a fair amount of such transits? AFAIK, they currently only codeshare to PER, and even if extended to BNE and MEL, given terminal quality at DPS, I'm not so sure that that many transits will take place (unless you want to go out of your way to enjoy a Bali beach stopover for a few days). However, this does separately raise the point about when TK is actually going to launch Australia - the last I can find is on AustBT from September 2017, in which it was reported that TK said it "aims to begin flying to Sydney in 2018," and that "We would have started flying to Sydney last year but we had faced many problems such as terror and the coup attempt. Therefore, we had postponed it. Next year, we will fly there for sure." Any updates since then? Perhaps aiming for 2019 now?

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Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:04 pm

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I don't see 9W flying down under anytime soon.

9W has reportedly in the past few months considered launching BOM - SYD, in partnership with QF.

Cheers,

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:52 pm

Hey guys,
I've heard that Turkish will announce Australian services when the new Istanbul airport is opened, as part of the publicity push for the new airport and Turkish itself: it's 'last frontier' of continents to add to its route map apparently. Again, the flights will initially be through an Asian port with the aim to go nonstop once Turkish gains either Project Sunrise-style A350s and/or 777-8s with super-dooper range.
Again, just speculation I have heard from an avgeek contact in Britain.
As for the Qantas pilots academy, my money is on Tamworth (the BAe college et al) and Alice Springs, with the former to open first.
Cheers,
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:53 pm

Qantas16 wrote:
QF744ER wrote:
QF744ER wrote:
Just following on from some of the posts from earlier today, just landed in Singapore and there’s 3 QF A380’s here, one each parked on the C and D gates and there’s a silveroo liveried one parked on the hardstands directly opposite the end of the C gate piers.


Infact make that 4 as -OQL just arrived. -OQD (the diversion Queen) and -OQE are all parked on gates. Presumably the other silveroo is broken or has a tech issue.


Looks like -OQG was operating Sunday's QF1 but only got as far as SIN and hasn't moved since.

-OQD landed at 1722 as QF2
-OQE landed at 1737 as QF81 (did not realise QF has reinstated double daily A380 SYD-SIN)
-OQL landed at 1909 as QF35
-OQK estimated at 2300 as QF1

QF36 has been delayed from 8pm to 1am which makes me think they'll be switching aircraft around... not quite sure how though.

Probably not helped by the fact -OQH hasn't flown since it landed in SYD ~5 days ago. Not sure if scheduled maintenance or not.


There was a QF1D showing on the departure screens, 0100 departure 07/08.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:59 pm

planemanofnz wrote:
Do you have a source showing that they carry a fair amount of such transits?


What is your problem painman? He didn't say there were a fair amount of transits.

Qantas16 wrote:
The existing services ex-KUL carry some transfer traffic and this will likely increase with this DPS service.


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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:20 pm

planemanofnz wrote:
Qantas16 wrote:
Turkish Airlines from July 2019 is adding second destination in Indonesia, which sees the airline serving Istanbul – Denpasar route. From 17JUL19, Airbus A330-300 will operate this route 3 times a week (Day 357), increasing to daily from 08AUG19.

TK066 IST0120 – 1930DPS 333 357
TK067 DPS2100 – 0525+1IST 333 357


Source: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... july-2019/

Whilst not directly related to Australian Aviation, expect to see this service carry a fair amount of passengers that will connect on OD to MEL/BNE/PER... The existing services ex-KUL carry some transfer traffic and this will likely increase with this DPS service.

Do you have a source showing that they carry a fair amount of such transits? AFAIK, they currently only codeshare to PER, and even if extended to BNE and MEL, given terminal quality at DPS, I'm not so sure that that many transits will take place (unless you want to go out of your way to enjoy a Bali beach stopover for a few days). However, this does separately raise the point about when TK is actually going to launch Australia - the last I can find is on AustBT from September 2017, in which it was reported that TK said it "aims to begin flying to Sydney in 2018," and that "We would have started flying to Sydney last year but we had faced many problems such as terror and the coup attempt. Therefore, we had postponed it. Next year, we will fly there for sure." Any updates since then? Perhaps aiming for 2019 now?

Cheers,

C.


If you read my post you'll see I said you should "expect" to see the service carry a fair amount of passengers and the existing services carry "some" transfer traffic:

Qantas16 wrote:
expect to see this service carry a fair amount of passengers that will connect on OD to MEL/BNE/PER... The existing services ex-KUL carry some transfer traffic and this will likely increase with this DPS service


Not every point can be backed up by links to 4 articles. The good part about this website is that people in the industry and/or with industry connections can share their insights and these are not always backed up with written sources. You can choose not to believe me, that's fine.

You do raise a point about DPS, but the pax flying TK are unlikely to be connecting through to LHR or FRA, they'll be connecting through to smaller locations such as TLL that don't have EK/EY/QR services. On top of that, TK/OD is likely a cheap airfare anyway!
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:26 pm

Qantas16 wrote:
QF744ER wrote:
QF744ER wrote:
Just following on from some of the posts from earlier today, just landed in Singapore and there’s 3 QF A380’s here, one each parked on the C and D gates and there’s a silveroo liveried one parked on the hardstands directly opposite the end of the C gate piers.


Infact make that 4 as -OQL just arrived. -OQD (the diversion Queen) and -OQE are all parked on gates. Presumably the other silveroo is broken or has a tech issue.


Looks like -OQG was operating Sunday's QF1 but only got as far as SIN and hasn't moved since.

-OQD landed at 1722 as QF2
-OQE landed at 1737 as QF81 (did not realise QF has reinstated double daily A380 SYD-SIN)
-OQL landed at 1909 as QF35
-OQK estimated at 2300 as QF1

QF36 has been delayed from 8pm to 1am which makes me think they'll be switching aircraft around... not quite sure how though.

Probably not helped by the fact -OQH hasn't flown since it landed in SYD ~5 days ago. Not sure if scheduled maintenance or not.


So in the end...

-OQG is still on the ground in SIN
-OQD continued as QF2 to SYD
-OQE operated as QF82 to SYD
-OQL operated as the delayed QF1D to LHR
-OQK operated as the normal QF1 to LHR

Still no sign of QF36 though... QF website says it should have left at 1am but that hasn't happened and there would be no aircraft to operate it. Presume pax were reaccommdated on QF38 and EK404 if there is room...
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:00 pm

Qantas16 wrote:
If you read my post you'll see I said you should "expect" to see the service carry a fair amount of passengers and the existing services carry "some" transfer traffic ...

Indeed, you did - sorry about the wording of my question, Qantas16. I wanted clarity on transit levels as IMO, this could inform eventual TK Australian flights (e.g. using KUL as a transit stop, instead of SIN, despite SIN being quoted before). Interestingly, a TK KUL - SYD flight would complement OD's network, given OD only flies to PER, MEL and BNE.

Cheers,

C.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:26 pm

planemanofnz wrote:
An interesting development - WA and PER officials will be in India this week, to convince airlines to start direct flights to PER.

Specifically on the trip, there'll be:

- Tourism Minister, Paul Papalia
- Perth Airport CEO, Kevin Brown
- Tourism WA’s aviation adviser, Andrew McEvoy

In their sights are Air India, Vistara, IndiGo, Spice Jet, and Jet Airways, with the latter 3 highlighted as the "likely candidates."

See: https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/di ... b88916168z.

With reported financial difficulties being suffered by AI / 9W, what do people think about this? Should UL be targeted instead?

Cheers,

C.

Personally I think Perth need more international air traffic. So I hope one of these airlines will take up going strait to Perth.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:13 am

RE: TK to DPS. Bali is a popular destination with Europeans and the EPL types. I'm sure transits to Australia will be minimal at best considering TK have SQ for all of that.

RE: WA Gov/India - The WA Government should stop throwing good money after bad and instead use that money to market WA as a destination.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:17 am

getluv wrote:
RE: TK to DPS. Bali is a popular destination with Europeans and the EPL types. I'm sure transits to Australia will be minimal at best considering TK have SQ for all of that.

RE: WA Gov/India - The WA Government should stop throwing good money after bad and instead use that money to market WA as a destination.

The relationship between SQ and TK is meh at best; TK will sell you a transfer via TG way before it sells a SQ transfer.

But since it's TK, you can never discount the possibility; although lacking a proper airside transit facility in DPS is not helping.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:59 am

eamondzhang wrote:
getluv wrote:
RE: TK to DPS. Bali is a popular destination with Europeans and the EPL types. I'm sure transits to Australia will be minimal at best considering TK have SQ for all of that.

RE: WA Gov/India - The WA Government should stop throwing good money after bad and instead use that money to market WA as a destination.

The relationship between SQ and TK is meh at best; TK will sell you a transfer via TG way before it sells a SQ transfer.

But since it's TK, you can never discount the possibility; although lacking a proper airside transit facility in DPS is not helping.

Michael


I think TK is also launching MFM, that would be unique transit point for an Australian tag.
I wouldn’t bet much on it however.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:08 am

A settlement has finally been reached for the captain, second officer and a flight attendant from The QF72 incident that happened nearly 10 years ago

https://twitter.com/watoday/status/1026 ... 14272?s=21
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:27 am

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A settlement has finally been reached for the captain, second officer and a flight attendant from The QF72 incident that happened nearly 10 years ago

https://twitter.com/watoday/status/1026 ... 14272?s=21


This is good. I have taken some interest in this event since an article regarding the incident featured in the media last year. QF72 is also now a featured episode of the latest series of the Air Crash Investigation or Mayday series. I haven’t seen it as yet, only the preview. Series 18 Episode 7. Sorry if mentioned already. It aired in June.

Source: https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-u ... f4387cf98b
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2018

Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:34 am

VapourTrails wrote:
qf789 wrote:
A settlement has finally been reached for the captain, second officer and a flight attendant from The QF72 incident that happened nearly 10 years ago

https://twitter.com/watoday/status/1026 ... 14272?s=21


This is good. I have taken some interest in this event since an article regarding the incident featured in the media last year. QF72 is also now a featured episode of the latest series of the Air Crash Investigation or Mayday series. I haven’t seen it as yet, only the preview. Series 18 Episode 7. Sorry if mentioned already. It aired in June I believe but not sure if in Australia.

Source: https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-u ... f4387cf98b


The ACI episode was shown on Foxtel back in June,
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Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:40 am

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The ACI episode was shown on Foxtel back in June,


Oh yeah thanks. I just edited my post to reflect my error there. :thumbsup: I don’t get Foxtel just free to air so I am not familiar with it. I know it’s not on YouTube so I will see it sometime maybe on DVD.
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