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Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:12 pm

Air France are down to just 2x A340s in service: F-GLZJ and F-GLZU. Are there any plans for a last flight ceremony for 25 years of service and a launch customer of the type?
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:43 pm

Have they announced a end to the fleet usage? I'm still seeing it on the CDG-MSP route for the spring of next year . . .
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:13 pm

What about the Joon air a340s? Will they be retired too? Currently CDG BOM is being operated by one.
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:20 pm

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What about the Joon air a340s? Will they be retired too? Currently CDG BOM is being operated by one.

Not until the A350 are there to replace them.
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:22 pm

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What about the Joon air a340s? Will they be retired too? Currently CDG BOM is being operated by one.


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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:43 pm

fightforlove wrote:
Air France are down to just 2x A340s in service: F-GLZJ and F-GLZU. Are there any plans for a last flight ceremony for 25 years of service and a launch customer of the type?


Wow, I cannot believe AF are down to just 2 A340s. I am dumb-founded...how time has flown by.

I remember when they were as ubiquitous at CDG (and on a.net) as BA's 747s. I am starting to feel old now....
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:51 pm

As horrible as these aircraft are on the interior I'm glad I got a chance to fly on one last year before they went. I'd always see them here in DTW, now its a 777 and hopefully it goes back to 787 maybe. I flew on F-GLZR last September and it was retired in January of this year.
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:13 pm

As a retirement gift they will finally be washed.

Half kidding.
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:32 pm

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As a retirement gift they will finally be washed.

Half kidding.


HA!! I remember when that topic was the "once every two weeks" type threads...
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:47 pm

When they were at the high point in the AF fleet, how many did AF have? Where were the sent? Mostly states or a bit of Asia too?
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:19 pm

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When they were at the high point in the AF fleet, how many did AF have? Where were the sent? Mostly states or a bit of Asia too?


AF operated 24 A343s and 6 A342s, all factory ordered to my knowledge. They ditched the A342s quickly in the mid-90s (I believe a few went to LH), I believe the A343 fleet was up to 21-24 frames in the mid 2000s. AF initially deployed them on routes to cities all over North America and South America where the 747 was overkill, then shifted many to African and Carribean routes (look up the famous St. Maarten AF 340 landing photo) after the 777s arrived. I don't know if they were ever deployed to Asia.
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:26 pm

ORDfan wrote:
fightforlove wrote:
Air France are down to just 2x A340s in service: F-GLZJ and F-GLZU. Are there any plans for a last flight ceremony for 25 years of service and a launch customer of the type?


Wow, I cannot believe AF are down to just 2 A340s. I am dumb-founded...how time has flown by.

I remember when they were as ubiquitous at CDG (and on a.net) as BA's 747s. I am starting to feel old now....


Same here! I remember how cool and state-of-the-art they looked, and how disappointed I was as a kid when on my family vacation to France in '94 we got stuck on the rare AF 767 instead of a brand-new A340!! :mad: :hissyfit: Ah well, I've at least logged flights on IB and LH A340s since then. :D
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:31 pm

smi0006 wrote:
When they were at the high point in the AF fleet, how many did AF have? Where were the sent? Mostly states or a bit of Asia too?


Peak was between 2001 and 2005. At the time they had 22, down to 21 after the one lost in YYZ. Then they had 21 until 2007 when they started retiring the type.
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:39 pm

A333MSPtoAMS wrote:
Have they announced a end to the fleet usage? I'm still seeing it on the CDG-MSP route for the spring of next year . . .

AF has been pretty much just operating F-GLZU on that run for a while.
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:47 pm

fightforlove wrote:
smi0006 wrote:
When they were at the high point in the AF fleet, how many did AF have? Where were the sent? Mostly states or a bit of Asia too?


AF operated 24 A343s and 6 A342s, all factory ordered to my knowledge. They ditched the A342s quickly in the mid-90s (I believe a few went to LH), I believe the A343 fleet was up to 21-24 frames in the mid 2000s. AF initially deployed them on routes to cities all over North America and South America where the 747 was overkill, then shifted many to African and Carribean routes (look up the famous St. Maarten AF 340 landing photo) after the 777s arrived. I don't know if they were ever deployed to Asia.


Amazing thanks for the response, I didn’t realis eheu were taking delivery of so many so ‘recently’.
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:06 pm

AF deployed the A340 to Asia as “Air France Asie” to Taipei and other destinations worldwide such as Washington/Dulles. It was quite a sight for me at IAD!
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:20 am

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AF deployed the A340 to Asia as “Air France Asie” to Taipei and other destinations worldwide such as Washington/Dulles. It was quite a sight for me at IAD!

Not only.
I flew with Air France to Seoul with 342 in 1994, and to Hanoï and HCM City with 343 later on (non stop flights).
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:08 am

ORDfan wrote:
fightforlove wrote:
Air France are down to just 2x A340s in service: F-GLZJ and F-GLZU. Are there any plans for a last flight ceremony for 25 years of service and a launch customer of the type?


Wow, I cannot believe AF are down to just 2 A340s. I am dumb-founded...how time has flown by.

I remember when they were as ubiquitous at CDG (and on a.net) as BA's 747s. I am starting to feel old now....


The AF A340 fleet never matched in count the BA 747 fleet. I found a reference that said BA had 57 747s in 2008.
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:57 pm

They're being refurbished and transferred to Joon.
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:23 pm

fightforlove wrote:
smi0006 wrote:
When they were at the high point in the AF fleet, how many did AF have? Where were the sent? Mostly states or a bit of Asia too?


AF operated 24 A343s and 6 A342s, all factory ordered to my knowledge. They ditched the A342s quickly in the mid-90s (I believe a few went to LH), I believe the A343 fleet was up to 21-24 frames in the mid 2000s. AF initially deployed them on routes to cities all over North America and South America where the 747 was overkill, then shifted many to African and Carribean routes (look up the famous St. Maarten AF 340 landing photo) after the 777s arrived. I don't know if they were ever deployed to Asia.


I flew on an AF A340 CDG-CAN and return in 2004.... my first long haul trip.
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:45 pm

Now I remember seeing an Air France Asie A340 when I was at CDG. Also, found in a book I have on the A340/A330 that AF introduced the A340 on the CDG-IAD route in March 1993, followed by Houston, Mexico City, Buenos Aires, Santiago, Recife, and Sao Paulo all from Paris via A340s by the end of 1993.
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:23 pm

airlinereporter wrote:
They're being refurbished and transferred to Joon.

Does refurbished mean they are being washed? :duck:
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:10 am

Never flew on AFs, but did fly on ACs to/from Asia a couple of times (Tokyo, Seoul) back when I went to those places on business. A very smooth and comfortable ride at least in J. But as one 340 pilot once told me, it "has just enough power to get the job done".

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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:12 pm

https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=2

GLZU has been retired today, leaving only GLZJ in AF fleet.

When will AFs last 340 be retired?
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:13 pm

https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=2

GLZU has been retired today, leaving only GLZJ in AF fleet.

When will AFs last 340 be retired?
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:36 pm

texl1649 wrote:
As a retirement gift they will finally be washed.

Half kidding.


No, they won't. And CDG ARFF is very skilled in making sure final water salute doesn't touch the frame. Watch 747 final flight.
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:41 pm

dtw2hyd wrote:
texl1649 wrote:
As a retirement gift they will finally be washed.

Half kidding.


No, they won't. And CDG ARFF is very skilled in making sure final water salute doesn't touch the frame. Watch 747 final flight.


Well that's a relief. It wouldn't do to have the slide deploy, now wouldn't it.
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:41 pm

AlexA340B777 wrote:
https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=2

GLZU has been retired today, leaving only GLZJ in AF fleet.

When will AFs last 340 be retired?

AF wasted no time deregistering it:

https://www.airfleets.net/exploit/produ ... 340-40.htm

There is only one A340 on AF's roster.
This is the end of an era. I do not know when, but it is time to schedule the ceremony.

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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:44 pm

Wow, definitely the end of an era, they were the first user of the 343, I flew one of them in March 2007 from CDG-SFO, decent flight.

Regarding the 342s, they were used for far-east Asian routes before the 275T 343 came along, then they disappeared. LH also had 6, and didn't buy any more than that.
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:50 pm

What happens to Joon's A340 are they phased out as Joon winds down or will the fly for AF?
 
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:44 pm

georgiabill wrote:
What happens to Joon's A340 are they phased out as Joon winds down or will the fly for AF?


They will stay until 2021, operated by Air France but in Joon's colors
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:48 pm

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I don't know if they were ever deployed to Asia.

They've flown them scheduled to BOM, CAN, SGN, HAN, SIN, BKK, MNL, TPE, PVG, PEK, and various destinations in Japan.

Pretty sure they've sent it to other destinations in India as well, but can't say with 100% certainty.



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georgiabill wrote:
What happens to Joon's A340 are they phased out as Joon winds down or will the fly for AF?

They will stay until 2021, operated by Air France but in Joon's colors

...but Joon is supposedly going away, so????
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Re: Air France A340 Retirement Ceremony?

Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:04 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
...but Joon is supposedly going away, so????


They are. A320 and A321 will be painted back in Air France colors but A340 won't. As they leave the fleet in 2021, AF stated that it was not worth to send them back to the paint shop.

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