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Re: First Lufthansa A380 in New Livery Rolled Out

Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:34 pm

BREECH wrote:
ezragollan0 wrote:
https://twitter.com/AeronauticsO/status/1070857292353019905

Lufthansa's first A380 in the new colors has been rolled out in Guangzhou. The aircraft, D-AIMD, is currently undergoing maintenance checks before heading back to Germany.

Wait, wait, wait... GUANGZHOU!?!? WHY was LH painting their plane in GUANGZHOU? What happened to their famous Lufthansa Technik? Can't they throw a bucket of paint on an airliner anymore?


Two reasons:
- A380 Wingspan
- German environmental protection laws
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Re: First Lufthansa A380 in New Livery Rolled Out

Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:36 pm

Hi,
tommy1808 wrote:
There are just two possible reasons to put paint with a design on an aircraft:

a) giving an attractive look that help business in one way or another.
b) It is cheaper.

Either it is attractive, and people disliking it just have their taste out of whack, or it saves LH money.


In my opinion there is absolutely no reason why it shouldn't be possible to combine both of the aims cited above.
There is no "either...or", if it's done in the right way, there can be a "...as well as...". ;)

DominikR83 wrote:
2. Why no yellow? I talked to a lot of people here in germany, all of them no airline/plane enthusiasts.And all of them told me that for them the signature color of LH was yellow. (...)
With the new livery they have given up their signature color. Even if only the crane and circle around it would have stayed yellow that would have been enough.


Yes indeed. Somebody had posted this image at the beginning of the year when the discussion had started:

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https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1375315&start=700#p20145583

Reduce the size of the circle and the crane, so that the whole circle fits into the vertical stabilizer and it would be a pretty superb livery.

But since Carsten Spohr has decided to drop the yellow at all costs, because Ryanair uses yellow on a blue tailfin, this won't happen, at least as long as the current CEO is in office, because it would mean to admit to have made a mistake, so they will continue to get rid of the yellow, because white is soooo minimalistic and it sends a feeling of PREMIUM towards anyone watching it... :white:
 
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Re: First Lufthansa A380 in New Livery Rolled Out

Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:41 pm

FW200 wrote:
Hi,
tommy1808 wrote:
There are just two possible reasons to put paint with a design on an aircraft:

a) giving an attractive look that help business in one way or another.
b) It is cheaper.

Either it is attractive, and people disliking it just have their taste out of whack, or it saves LH money.


In my opinion there is absolutely no reason why it shouldn't be possible to combine both of the aims cited above.
There is no "either...or", if it's done in the right way, there can be a "...as well as...". ;)


Well you can try... It just doesn't work all to often, but I'd think that is what they are trying to do?

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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:22 pm

Looking forward to seeing pics of the A380 in the air. It will look stunning with those enormous white wings.
 
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Re: First Lufthansa A380 in New Livery Rolled Out

Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:54 pm

trijetsonly wrote:
BREECH wrote:
ezragollan0 wrote:
https://twitter.com/AeronauticsO/status/1070857292353019905

Lufthansa's first A380 in the new colors has been rolled out in Guangzhou. The aircraft, D-AIMD, is currently undergoing maintenance checks before heading back to Germany.

Wait, wait, wait... GUANGZHOU!?!? WHY was LH painting their plane in GUANGZHOU? What happened to their famous Lufthansa Technik? Can't they throw a bucket of paint on an airliner anymore?


Two reasons:
- A380 Wingspan
- German environmental protection laws

Okay... two things that are worth of attention here. One, so it's okay to paint 5 million cars in Germany but not one plane? And two, it's more environmental to burn 100 tons of fuel to fly a 500-ton aircraft all the way to another hemisphere to get it painted AND BACK?
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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:33 pm

I recall LH published some material about the livery change in a few magazine specials across Europe and what I remember reading was along the lines of "...the yellow is not disappearing. It's actually more important to LH's identity and therefore will be used subtly applied to all those premium and special experiences during a flight...", by which I understand the cabin interiors, some of the door graphics, the boarding passes, the airline desks, the inflight magazines, menus, etc. So it's just a shift, showing how "precious" the yellow is - at least according to their designers' narrative.
 
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Re: First Lufthansa A380 in New Livery Rolled Out

Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:58 am

Goodbye wrote:
OneSexyL1011 wrote:
To think they paid somebody 100's of thousands of dollars, if not millions to design this livery.

I could have done it for a tenth of the cost, using Microsoft paint and saved them the time and money for this abomination.


Everyone seems to forget that a rebranding is so much more than just the livery.

Could you have provided a complete brand overhaul and strategy in MS Paint?

Perhaps you should take a look below at what actually went into the rebranding:

https://www.underconsideration.com/bran ... _house.php


Yeah, I probably could have.
 
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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:14 pm

787Driver wrote:
DominikR83 wrote:
Why should they do it in Frankfurt when the same can be done in Guangzhou for less money? If LH can save money without losing quality..why not?

Regarding the delivery: It is not that bad, but there are two things that i don`t like/don`t understand

1.: Why any new livery at all? It wasn`t really necessary.The former one still looked good and timeless.
2. Why no yellow? I talked to a lot of people here in germany, all of them no airline/plane enthusiasts.And all of them told me that for them the signature color of LH was yellow.
There where so many airlines which do have blue but htis sort of dark yellow is almost unique and every child and adult in germany where able to identify a LH plane or LH checkin counter from miles away. With the new livery they have given up their signature color. Even if only the crane and circle around it would have stayed yellow that would have been enough.


No they haven’t. In fact they widely use yellow in the terminals, boarding cards, uniforms, website, etc. It’s only gone from the livery except for the welcome sign next to the entry doors.


Most of the terminal appearance will change as well.I have seen already some changes at FRA,where the yellow with the dark blue crane on it has been replace with the dark blue and the silver crane on it.
Currently not that much but i guess it will change,it just takes time cause it is expensive.
As per LH the yellow will disappear almost complete and only used very rare.(e.g. as color blob on their uniforms)
 
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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:34 pm

Normally, one changes to improve, and with this it seems that Lufthansa changed for the worse. Very ridiculous
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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:11 pm

I'm not sure what people aren't understanding about "it's cheaper." Why paint in China? It's cheaper. Yep, they probably could have painted it in Germany. But China was cheaper. Why not add a third colour? It's cheaper. Yep, the could have added a third colour, but this is cheaper.

How many times do we have to explain to people that the principle drive behind this change was to save money, not to dramatically shift their brand in one particular direction?
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Re: First Lufthansa A380 in New Livery Rolled Out

Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:00 pm

trijetsonly wrote:
BREECH wrote:
ezragollan0 wrote:
https://twitter.com/AeronauticsO/status/1070857292353019905

Lufthansa's first A380 in the new colors has been rolled out in Guangzhou. The aircraft, D-AIMD, is currently undergoing maintenance checks before heading back to Germany.

Wait, wait, wait... GUANGZHOU!?!? WHY was LH painting their plane in GUANGZHOU? What happened to their famous Lufthansa Technik? Can't they throw a bucket of paint on an airliner anymore?


Two reasons:
- A380 Wingspan
- German environmental protection laws


Ok whats the bet we get a roll out with one side at least reading "Luthansa" or "Lufthana"
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Re: First Lufthansa A380 in New Livery Rolled Out

Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:05 pm

Vimanav wrote:
trijetsonly wrote:
BREECH wrote:
Wait, wait, wait... GUANGZHOU!?!? WHY was LH painting their plane in GUANGZHOU? What happened to their famous Lufthansa Technik? Can't they throw a bucket of paint on an airliner anymore?


Two reasons:
- A380 Wingspan
- German environmental protection laws


Ok whats the bet we get a roll out with one side at least reading "Luthansa" or "Lufthana"


The joke would be perfect if they make it "Lusthansa" :lol:
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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:45 pm

I don't understand why everyone is making such a big deal of LH removing the yellow. Personally I think it looks much better now and obviously it's got nothing to do with costs etc.
 
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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:35 pm

Great livery. Simple. Classy. And it’s a unique blue.

340-600 is fugly; it’s like they force fed a DC-8-70. Probably make a wonderful fois gras.
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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:35 am

Here an Video of the Arrival at Munich Airport https://youtu.be/cfkzLWMSYU0
 
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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:53 am

Got their first A380 (D-AIMD) in new livery landing at MIA earlier today. LH460 (MUC-MIA)

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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:12 pm

Just an update on the types that can be seen in the new livery:

A388

B748

B744

A346

A359

A333

A321

A320neo

A320

A319

CRJ900

MD-11


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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:56 am

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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:16 pm

Hi there !

I know that depending on the light, each deep blue color looks different on the tail, but still, I can see 3 different tones out there. Does anybody know which is going to be the definitive blue? The original from D-ABVA ( 748i ), the one from D-ABVM ( 744 ), the one from D-AIMD ( 380 )...?
 
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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:12 am

SQ773 wrote:
Hi there !

I know that depending on the light, each deep blue color looks different on the tail, but still, I can see 3 different tones out there. Does anybody know which is going to be the definitive blue? The original from D-ABVA ( 748i ), the one from D-ABVM ( 744 ), the one from D-AIMD ( 380 )...?


D-ABVM features the definite color. And there are just two tones, the first that was too dark and the final blue.
By the way D-ABVA was Lufthansa’s first 744 which is already scrapped. I guess you meant D-ABYA.
 
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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:47 am

DABYT wrote:
By the way D-ABVA was Lufthansa’s first 744 which is already scrapped. I guess you meant D-ABYA.


Oops, yes, correct ! :boxedin:

So, the feeling of seeing then 3 or 4 difefrent tones is just an optical effect, right?
 
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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:21 am

SQ773 wrote:
So, the feeling of seeing then 3 or 4 difefrent tones is just an optical effect, right?

Yep, correct
 
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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:15 pm

SQ773 wrote:
So, the feeling of seeing then 3 or 4 difefrent tones is just an optical effect, right?


DABYT wrote:
Yep, correct


At least it's still blue. The new Aer Lingus tail is supposed to be green, yet appears blue in some photographs:

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Re: Revised Lufthansa livery fleet thread

Fri May 24, 2019 10:18 pm

So LH claimed that the aircrafts with white engines and new seats will be easier to shift from one airline to another. But I really doubt that unique type aircrafts for the group as B763, B772, B744/748 or A380 could leave to another airline. As well as pretty old Swiss’ or Austrian A320s could be shifted to LH. Same stuff about EW A319 and LH A321 with IAE engines. I guess it was not a good idea to claim that the whole fleet could be somehow exchanged throughout the group. Also it will cause a lot of problems with introducing more and more regs and LH will have certainly to revise the existing 2-letter system for example. Just simplifying of exchanging spare parts sounds as an earnest argument.
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