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dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:18 am
by wiggy
sorry about the last thread i created guys
are biman bangladesh currently still operated the DC-10 ?

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:35 am
by FlyRow
feb.20-2014 was the last DC-10 flight.
KLM retired the last MD-11 PAX on october 26 -2014

No civil pax-versions anymore.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:20 pm
by covert
FedEx operates several as the MD-10. I believe one MD-10 is operated as a flying hospital, and the USAF still operates 59 as tankers. The Netherlands has a few as tankers as well.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:45 pm
by SpaceshipDC10
There is still these two KF Cargo of Canada DC-10Fs operating out of MIA.


Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:59 pm
by 5NFGS
DC-10/MD-11 ops are done globally for PAX.

Even VIP ops are winding down.........I think

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:20 pm
by BAeRJ100
Some of the questions you ask can be answered very easily by Google. Searching something as simple as "Biman last DC-10 flight" gives you the answer right away.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 1:20 pm
by HPRamper
covert wrote:
FedEx operates several as the MD-10. I believe one MD-10 is operated as a flying hospital, and the USAF still operates 59 as tankers. The Netherlands has a few as tankers as well.

FedEx still operates 37 MD-10s and 57 MD-11s. That's certainly several :D

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:06 pm
by N14AZ
5NFGS wrote:
Even VIP ops are winding down.........I think

I might be wrong, but I think here are no VIP-MD11's anymore and definetily no more VIP DC-10 (and I cannot even remember that there was a VIP DC-10 at all (just military)).

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:08 pm
by george77300
N14AZ wrote:
5NFGS wrote:
Even VIP ops are winding down.........I think

I might be wrong, but I think here are no VIP-MD11's anymore and definetily no more VIP DC-10 (and I cannot even remember that there was a VIP DC-10 at all (just military)).


I think this is correct. Only freighters and tankers left I believe. FedEx has a fair few though so they’ll be around a while yet (especially the MD11).

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:15 pm
by DarthLobster
Don’t forget the handful of DC-10 firefighters...

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:29 pm
by SpaceshipDC10
N14AZ wrote:
5NFGS wrote:
no more VIP DC-10 (and I cannot even remember that there was a VIP DC-10 at all ).


Not necessarily a VIP but still a private one used to haul goods and employees between factories' locations.


Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:04 pm
by wiggy
does the eye flying hospital still operate the DC-10

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:06 pm
by wiggy
because the DC-10 s aren't showing up on flightradar24 well I can't find any anyway

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:08 pm
by wiggy
when was the last biman DC-10 to finish commercial operation

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:56 am
by BAeRJ100
wiggy wrote:
when was the last biman DC-10 to finish commercial operation


Seriously, if you follow the advice in my last post and do a simple Google search you will find the answer.

Hint: it was Feb 20 2014.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:03 am
by wiggy
In 2007, Northwest Airlines became the last major carrier to retire the DC-10 from passenger service in the United States. McDonnell Douglas's famous (and at times infamous) jetliner logged its maiden voyage for passengers on August 5, 1971, on an American Airlines round trip between Los Angeles and Chicago.Jun 15, 2017

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:56 am
by Max Q
BAeRJ100 wrote:
wiggy wrote:
when was the last biman DC-10 to finish commercial operation


Seriously, if you follow the advice in my last post and do a simple Google search you will find the answer.

Hint: it was Feb 20 2014.



If you object so much to the topic it’s
not mandatory for you to read it



As a reminder, this is an aviation enthusiast site

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:26 am
by WN732
wiggy wrote:
In 2007, Northwest Airlines became the last major carrier to retire the DC-10 from passenger service in the United States. McDonnell Douglas's famous (and at times infamous) jetliner logged its maiden voyage for passengers on August 5, 1971, on an American Airlines round trip between Los Angeles and Chicago.Jun 15, 2017


Man, too bad I missed that memo. Must've gone unnoticed due to the 747 retirements.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:08 am
by wiggy
sorry

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:08 am
by wiggy
sorry

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:52 am
by Northwest1988
Does the FedEx fleet consist of any original DC-10s with the 3 man cockpit or have they all been converted to the new MD-10?

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:55 am
by wiggy
are you asking me ?

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:04 am
by wiggy
i think that the MD-10 is not much different to the DC-10

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:03 am
by Phosphorus
Max Q wrote:
BAeRJ100 wrote:
wiggy wrote:
when was the last biman DC-10 to finish commercial operation


Seriously, if you follow the advice in my last post and do a simple Google search you will find the answer.

Hint: it was Feb 20 2014.



If you object so much to the topic it’s
not mandatory for you to read it



As a reminder, this is an aviation enthusiast site


Yes it is. And this particular enthusiast has already had a reply to his identical question by the time of asking:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1382573#p20640857

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:30 am
by HPRamper
Northwest1988 wrote:
Does the FedEx fleet consist of any original DC-10s with the 3 man cockpit or have they all been converted to the new MD-10?

They were all converted to MD-10 many many years ago.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:55 am
by wiggy
thanks for that

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:00 pm
by marcogr12
Lufthansa Cargo also uses MD-11

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:34 pm
by PatrickZ80
covert wrote:
The Netherlands has a few as tankers as well.


But not for long anymore. As soon as the A330 MRTTs arrive the KDC-10s are history. They will be NATO planes, but based in Eindhoven they'll essentially take over the role of the KDC-10s currently based there.

Several Netherlands Air Force pilots are currently outsourced to KLM for the purpose of training on the A330.

wiggy wrote:
i think that the MD-10 is not much different to the DC-10


On the outside they're identical, the only difference is on the inside. The DC-10 has a full-analog cockpit, the MD-10 has a digital cockpit that is more similar to the MD-11 than it is to the DC-10.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:10 am
by wiggy
ok

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:30 am
by KICT
SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
Not necessarily a VIP but still a private one used to haul goods and employees between factories' locations.

A quick glance into the database reveals that aircraft stored in Afghanistan since at least 2012.

And no, Orbis no longer operates the DC-10. Their original DC-10 was replaced with a MD-10 donated by FedEx a few years ago.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:06 am
by wiggy
whats does orbis operate now

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:42 am
by aemoreira1981
All remaining examples in service are freighters, EXCEPT the Orbis MD-10-30 (line #96). The original Orbis MD-10-10 is a museum piece now at DMA (it was a testbed for McDonnell Douglas for its first 7 years). The Orbis MD-10-30 - de-converted from freighter with port-side passenger windows restored - flies where it's needed, usually with FedEx pilots.

Almost all remaining DC-10s are with air forces or FedEx (as an MD-10 with a glass cockpit) - a handful are still leased. For the MD-11, almost all remaining examples are with 4 airlines: FedEx, UPS, Western Global, and Lufthansa Cargo. The only ones still on lease are some FedEx examples and minor operators with fewer than 4 examples such as Centurion; the other airlines fully own their MD-11s. The most recent transaction was a sale by Lufthansa of three MD-11s to Western Global.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:48 am
by wiggy
ok

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:29 am
by SpaceshipDC10
KICT wrote:
A quick glance into the database reveals that aircraft stored in Afghanistan since at least 2012.


Where in Afghanistan?

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:48 pm
by United_fan
aemoreira1981 wrote:
All remaining examples in service are freighters, EXCEPT the Orbis MD-10-30 (line #96). The original Orbis MD-10-10 is a museum piece now at DMA (it was a testbed for McDonnell Douglas for its first 7 years). The Orbis MD-10-30 - de-converted from freighter with port-side passenger windows restored - flies where it's needed, usually with FedEx pilots.

Almost all remaining DC-10s are with air forces or FedEx (as an MD-10 with a glass cockpit) - a handful are still leased. For the MD-11, almost all remaining examples are with 4 airlines: FedEx, UPS, Western Global, and Lufthansa Cargo. The only ones still on lease are some FedEx examples and minor operators with fewer than 4 examples such as Centurion; the other airlines fully own their MD-11s. The most recent transaction was a sale by Lufthansa of three MD-11s to Western Global.


Orbis' original DC-10 was a DC-10-10 . It's replacement is a MD-10-30 .

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:27 pm
by FlyRow
wiggy wrote:
whats does orbis operate now

Phosphorus wrote:
Max Q wrote:
BAeRJ100 wrote:

Seriously, if you follow the advice in my last post and do a simple Google search you will find the answer.

Hint: it was Feb 20 2014.



If you object so much to the topic it’s
not mandatory for you to read it



As a reminder, this is an aviation enthusiast site


Yes it is. And this particular enthusiast has already had a reply to his identical question by the time of asking:


Do you know that website: Wikipedia, or that search engine google?

You ask questions which already have been answered in the same thread.
(like; last commercial DC10 flight... I answered that in the second post of this thread.)

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:12 pm
by SpaceshipDC10
aemoreira1981 wrote:
The Orbis MD-10-30 - de-converted from freighter with port-side passenger windows restored - flies where it's needed, usually with FedEx pilots.


Born as a DC-10-30CF, converted to DC-10-30(F) then MD-10-30(F) before it's current status which is more or less a MD-10-30 with a SCD.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:33 pm
by wiggy
no you said the last MD11 commercial flight not the DC10

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:35 pm
by wiggy
sorry i did see that

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:44 pm
by FlyRow
wiggy wrote:
no you said the last MD11 commercial flight not the DC10


Are you for real?

https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1401589#p20641077
FlyRow wrote:
feb.20-2014 was the last DC-10 flight.
KLM retired the last MD-11 PAX on october 26 -2014

No civil pax-versions anymore.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:21 am
by wiggy
what do you mean

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:10 am
by wiggy
I am so sorry fellow moderators and bloggers but even though I am an aviation enthusiast I will never create another thread or forum page

Hadleigh

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:26 am
by wiggy
just interested are garuda still operating the md11 pax version because thats what wikipedia say but it might be wrong

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:02 am
by QF754
Seriously? A 30 second Google search shows they appear to have retired their last pax example in 1998. That’s 20 years ago!

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:23 am
by wiggy
hey listen here mate i looked up on wikipedia or is that history

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:20 am
by BlueberryWheats
Wiggy... listen here, the MD11 and DC10 are dead as PAX aircraft. No-one is flying them hauling passengers. I believe this has been stated a few times in this thread.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:45 am
by wjcandee
wiggy wrote:
I am so sorry fellow moderators and bloggers but even though I am an aviation enthusiast I will never create another thread or forum page

Hadleigh


PLEASE don't let the obnoxious sanctimonious people on here get to you. Create any thread you want, after doing some research in good faith. Many people including me found the thread perfectly-acceptable and interesting. If a thread is boring, I just move on. Which is what grown ups do.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:46 am
by wjcandee
BlueberryWheats wrote:
Wiggy... listen here, the MD11 and DC10 are dead as PAX aircraft. No-one is flying them hauling passengers. I believe this has been stated a few times in this thread.


Then why bother repeating it?

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:53 am
by PatrickZ80
I don't know what Wikipedia site you looked at but at the English version it's not in the current fleet, only in the historic fleet. It says they operated it from 1990 to 1998, which is correct. However in other languages Wikipedia may not always be up-to-date.

Wikipedia can never be fully trusted as a reliable source, but if you have to rely on it the English version is mostly the best, but can still contain errors.

As has been said before, there are no airlines still operating these aircraft in passenger configuration anymore. The only ones left are cargo and military.

Re: dc-10/md11 operations thread 2018

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:57 am
by BlueberryWheats
wjcandee wrote:
BlueberryWheats wrote:
Wiggy... listen here, the MD11 and DC10 are dead as PAX aircraft. No-one is flying them hauling passengers. I believe this has been stated a few times in this thread.


Then why bother repeating it?


Because worded differently, it might finally sink in.