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Finn350
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2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:12 pm

2012 BOEING 747-8I For Sale. VVIP interior, low mileage.

Aircraft produced green by Boeing and delivered in Dec 2012., Interior installation by Boeing San Antonio, USA - completed in Dec 2014, Aircraft entered into VVIP service in Jan 2015 for Qatar Royal Flight.

Quite nice looking interior!

https://www.controller.com/listings/air ... ing-747-8i
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:50 pm

Finn350 wrote:
2012 BOEING 747-8I For Sale. VVIP interior, low mileage.

Aircraft produced green by Boeing and delivered in Dec 2012., Interior installation by Boeing San Antonio, USA - completed in Dec 2014, Aircraft entered into VVIP service in Jan 2015 for Qatar Royal Flight.

Quite nice looking interior!

https://www.controller.com/listings/air ... ing-747-8i



403 flight hours, wow. Thats the jet of the late father of the current ruler of Qatar. Apparent reason for sale: death of the owner almost two years ago. He could only use it for less than two years.
The exterior picture is crudely photoshopped so not to show the elaborate livery it wears. And behind it is an SP, likely also the one of the same former owner which is also for sale.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:52 pm

Can the sanctions/embargo really be hurting that bad? Ive got to think they're gonna take a bath on this even if they can sell it. 403 total hours, what a waste! Maybe one of the oligarchs will buy it?
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:57 pm

Wow, they event got a Dr's Office in there.

Pretty bad photoshop for a plane sell really.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:36 pm

Some people have enough money to buy a private 747-8 but there's no way for money to buy you taste...
Man that is an ugly interior.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:13 pm

Maybe Trump can upgrade from his 75. He may miss the 74 when his time is up. Just needs a little interior work.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:37 pm

SteelChair wrote:
Can the sanctions/embargo really be hurting that bad? Ive got to think they're gonna take a bath on this even if they can sell it. 403 total hours, what a waste! Maybe one of the oligarchs will buy it?

They have been trying to sell it for a while now, before the embargo. The market for a VIP 747 is very limited though.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:42 pm

You'll need John Leahy powers to shift that thing!

Any potential buyer will wish to make such a thing his own, which means stripping the interior and putting a new one in to his liking. That's 2 years and roughly 150-250M, depending on the level of over-boardness and provided they can use existing security systems. Add another 20-50 if not.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:51 pm

B777LRF wrote:
You'll need John Leahy powers to shift that thing!

Any potential buyer will wish to make such a thing his own, which means stripping the interior and putting a new one in to his liking. That's 2 years and roughly 150-250M, depending on the level of over-boardness and provided they can use existing security systems. Add another 20-50 if not.

Also have to find a buyer able to afford running a 748 but also willing to take a used plane (the horror!) :o
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:02 pm

B777LRF wrote:
You'll need John Leahy powers to shift that thing!

Any potential buyer will wish to make such a thing his own, which means stripping the interior and putting a new one in to his liking. That's 2 years and roughly 150-250M, depending on the level of over-boardness and provided they can use existing security systems. Add another 20-50 if not.


Surely the aircraft would be attractive to someone who could take it with only a modest interior refresh, may new textile color scheme for 10M or so?
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:08 pm

Finn350 wrote:
B777LRF wrote:
You'll need John Leahy powers to shift that thing!

Any potential buyer will wish to make such a thing his own, which means stripping the interior and putting a new one in to his liking. That's 2 years and roughly 150-250M, depending on the level of over-boardness and provided they can use existing security systems. Add another 20-50 if not.


Surely the aircraft would be attractive to someone who could take it with only a modest interior refresh, may new textile color scheme for 10M or so?

The people who can afford to buy and operate a 748 are unfamiliar with the word “modest.”

There is a lot of vanity involved in having a VIP 748- the buyer is going to want everything tailored to their exact desires and taste. Those who can afford it often want new just to say they bought the plane new. There are also rules and etiquette involved. A random middle eastern prince can’t have a nicer jet than the ruling King for example (and remember- size matters, not just how nice the interior is). This all makes selling a used VIP 748 difficult. Sometimes the planes get gifted to a lesser ally when the original owner is done with them.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:13 pm

Can i borrow a few bucks? Totally unrelated. :biggrin:
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:17 pm

True modesty compels me to go for the Bombardier Global 7000 instead
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:07 pm

I think this one have aero loft, which takes from the tarmac straight in.
Qatar Amira also have one 747-8i undergoing VIP installation somewhere, in addition to the 2 in service (A7-HHT & A7-HBJ). State of Qatar should be the biggest operator of 747VIP fleet !!
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:33 pm

I made a $5 USD bid. Waiting for the reply.
 
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:01 pm

Maybe Royal Air Maroc on behalf of the King to replace their outgoing B744...
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:14 pm

TheLion wrote:
Maybe Royal Air Maroc on behalf of the King to replace their outgoing B744...

Morroco was given a 747-8 (CN-MBH) last fall by their friends in Abu Dhabi.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:19 pm

Off to the desert to the cut up for scrap? I'll chip in $1000 for it.

Realistically, it might be purchased by another Government. The Australian Government could do with a new state aircraft, the A330s have other duties and the B737-700s are not ideal.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:29 pm

Interior isnt bad; you just gave to like the color blue.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:00 pm

its on mr chui's website samchui.com
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:00 am

impilot wrote:
Maybe Trump can upgrade from his 75. He may miss the 74 when his time is up. Just needs a little interior work.

impilot wrote:
a little
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:08 am

I don’t think you’re allowed to sell stuff on a.net but how much do you want for it? Is the staircase included?
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:24 am

Flighty wrote:
True modesty compels me to go for the Bombardier Global 7000 instead


I parked a Gulfstream 550 under her left wing once - she is large. Please consider a Gulfstream 650 when the time comes. Be well.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:44 am

Considering that no Saudi/Emirati will give Qatar money, that Gaddafi is dead and that Erdogan is a little short of cash I guess nobody will buy it.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:31 am

UAEflyer wrote:
I think this one have aero loft, which takes from the tarmac straight in.
Qatar Amira also have one 747-8i undergoing VIP installation somewhere, in addition to the 2 in service (A7-HHT & A7-HBJ). State of Qatar should be the biggest operator of 747VIP fleet !!



A7-HHE A7-HBJ and A7-HHF being terminated in BSL.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:19 pm

Polot wrote:
TheLion wrote:
Maybe Royal Air Maroc on behalf of the King to replace their outgoing B744...

Morroco was given a 747-8 (CN-MBH) last fall by their friends in Abu Dhabi.


Aha yes indeed, thanks:

viewtopic.php?t=1374241

Maybe Wiki needs updating to reflect this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Air_Maroc#Fleet
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:46 pm

Is it possible for the aircraft to be converted to for airlines service?
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:05 pm

KrustyTheKlown wrote:
Considering that no Saudi/Emirati will give Qatar money, that Gaddafi is dead and that Erdogan is a little short of cash I guess nobody will buy it.


Exactly. When the only ones with the money to take it off your hands also hate you, you know it’s going to be a tough sale...
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:29 pm

727200 wrote:
Interior isnt bad; you just gave to like the color blue.


I like blue.

Seriously, I actually like the interior desgin.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:41 pm

Flightglobal claims there's a qualified offer, but does not name the buyer.

Can't get the link now but should be easy to find.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:56 pm

Lufthansa - convert it back to a passenger aircraft.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:36 pm

hisham wrote:
I don’t think you’re allowed to sell stuff on a.net but how much do you want for it? Is the staircase included?


Seriously, the fair market value of the aircraft is not easy to estimate as the market is quite "special". I presume the acquisition price of the aircraft with the interior has been around $400-500M. I suppose any offer in the $150-200M range would be very interesting to the seller.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:01 pm

727200 wrote:
Interior isnt bad; you just gave to like the color blue.


Reminds me of Club Persh from South Park. Its not classy if it doesn't have blue carpets and gold curtain rods!

Image
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:06 pm

cpd wrote:
Off to the desert to the cut up for scrap? I'll chip in $1000 for it.

Realistically, it might be purchased by another Government. The Australian Government could do with a new state aircraft, the A330s have other duties and the B737-700s are not ideal.


I think it's a bit to much for the Australian Government..
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:29 pm

How about convert to Air Force One?
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:36 pm

chunhimlai wrote:
How about convert to Air Force One?

Air Force already has two green aircraft.
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:42 pm

Maybe Trump can upgrade from his private 757 (after his presidency/Air Force 1, of course)... :duck:
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:47 pm

Iran Air could have used this plane
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:53 pm

How many miles?
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:58 pm

KrustyTheKlown wrote:
Considering that no Saudi/Emirati will give Qatar money, that Gaddafi is dead and that Erdogan is a little short of cash I guess nobody will buy it.


funny , but didn't qatar said they wanted to invest 15 billion into Turkey, just saying
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:59 pm

Where can I submit my bid?
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:59 pm

Kim Jong Un can buy it
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:37 am

Well, it seems to have found a new home, link sadly in German only, (but well covered in the Turkish thread), as it was supposedly ´gifted´ to Tuerkey by the Emir of Qatar. I wish he would give me one!

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/aus ... gzeug.html
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:28 am

cougar15 wrote:
Well, it seems to have found a new home, link sadly in German only, (but well covered in the Turkish thread), as it was supposedly ´gifted´ to Tuerkey by the Emir of Qatar. I wish he would give me one!

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/aus ... gzeug.html

Well, he has another three B748 in fleet, one can hope.....:P
 
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Re: 2012 BOEING 747-8I (Qatar VVIP) For Sale

Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:52 am

What an amazing gift! :scratchchin:
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:33 am

Shame thought it could be iron maidens new ed force one

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