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kaitak wrote:- Aer Lingus to announce two new US routes (latest info is that these announcements will be delayed until IAG investors' day in November)
kaitak wrote:Good morning folks and welcome to our latest thread. August was a pretty good month for developments and we had several, mostly positive:
- Profits up at EI and IAG (but down at Vueling); Norwegian, well, let's just say that they don't just use red paint for their aircraft ...
- Luxair to brings jets to DUB-LUX service
- Aer Lingus to announce two new US routes (latest info is that these announcements will be delayed until IAG investors' day in November)
- American drops DUB-JFK, but announces seasonal DFW - Dublin's first 789 route
- AA expecting regulatory approval for EI JV in Q1 2019
- SIA in discussions for DUB route, but not in near future - may have to wait until new runway open
- Lots of complaints about EI customer service (particularly complaints handling)
- More complaints from EI about DUB infrastructure; also criticism of DAA setting pax targets that are too easily achieved
- EI increases DUB-ORK
- Aeroflot announces DUB; new service will be on A320s - a bit of a jump from the Tu-134s previously used!
- DUB opens new connection facility
- EI and FR to announce new interline facility from early 2019
- FR to charge non-priority pax for cabin bags
- Papal visit: AZ A320 from Rome, EI A321 back
- EI and WX join forces for new LCY operation; two 146s initially
Enjoy the new thread, and here's a link to the last one: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1400349
Galwayman wrote:Dub -ORK ???
shamrock350 wrote:kaitak wrote:- Aer Lingus to announce two new US routes (latest info is that these announcements will be delayed until IAG investors' day in November)
Where has this come from? IAG investor days rarely come with individual group airline announcements. Aer Lingus in particular like to hold their own press conference for new routes, inviting Irish media, local businesses and tourism execs.
I would have thought the first two weeks of September looked likely.
klm617 wrote:Is it actually 2 North American routes or 2 US routes. That being said if it's the latter does that mean one of them won't be YUL ?
klm617 wrote:I would be utterly surprised if Minneapolis gets added over Detroit. MSP doesn't have a great incentive program, DTW puts up the better numbers in terms of travel to Europe, and if EI has taken notes from WW's service at DTW they have been selling out WOW premium to the point where you can no longer book it. Similar sized plane on a larger market with great opportunities to connect DTW with MAN, BCN, and other important Western Euro markets. Not only that, but Anna.Aero basically called out the airlines for not serving this market. It's also of note, that the DUB and BCN markets nearly doubled from 2016 to 2017 similarly to KEF.I am thinking Detroit has to be one of them. Good O/D market to DUB not to mention the additional onward connections from DUB to central Europe plus DTW is offering and incentive package as good or better than most perspective A321 markets. Plus DTW is the largest city with no IAG carrier service. I guessing BWI as the other addition.
flymco753 wrote:klm617 wrote:I would be utterly surprised if Minneapolis gets added over Detroit. MSP doesn't have a great incentive program, DTW puts up the better numbers in terms of travel to Europe, and if EI has taken notes from WW's service at DTW they have been selling out WOW premium to the point where you can no longer book it. Similar sized plane on a larger market with great opportunities to connect DTW with MAN, BCN, and other important Western Euro markets. Not only that, but Anna.Aero basically called out the airlines for not serving this market. It's also of note, that the DUB and BCN markets nearly doubled from 2016 to 2017 similarly to KEF.I am thinking Detroit has to be one of them. Good O/D market to DUB not to mention the additional onward connections from DUB to central Europe plus DTW is offering and incentive package as good or better than most perspective A321 markets. Plus DTW is the largest city with no IAG carrier service. I guessing BWI as the other addition.
shamrock350 wrote:The E195 aircraft that Stobart have been operating are apparently complete nightmares from a reliability point of view. The aircraft have quite the reputation down in Southend and I don't think anyone there will miss them.
So far we know that out of the three E195's operated by Stobart, two of them will be relocated and the third will continue on the SEN/DUB route until March. It's safe to assume they'll all end up in DUB at some point but they can't operate as part of the Aer Lingus Regional franchise deal because of union agreements. The terms of the Aer Lingus Regional franchise would either have to be amended and put to unions or a new deal would be required like we've seen with CityJet so they can fly alongside Aer Lingus Mainline.
eirflot wrote:Poorly written contract if EI cannot uogage a given route flown by EIR
I am always amused when it requires union approval to operate a service or an alteration to a service
shamrock350 wrote:eirflot wrote:Poorly written contract if EI cannot uogage a given route flown by EIR
I am always amused when it requires union approval to operate a service or an alteration to a service
It's a bit more complicated than that, almost all franchise deals in aviation have limitations on aircraft capacity, size or jet/prop operations. A franchise is basically subcontracting work, in this case Aer Lingus handed their entire Scottish market to Aer Arann which essentially replaced Aer Lingus mainline crews with a cheaper alternative. We know this wasn't the main factor in creating the franchise but it was an inevitable product which needed to be addressed by unions in order protect the conditions and viability of mainline jobs.
Aer Lingus Regional being limited to under 100 seaters keeps the Stobart crews a comfortable distance from the mainline operation so neither are competing for the same business, Regional has a clear market and role to play for Aer Lingus so the lines aren't blurred. The two can operate on the same route but Regional appears to provide additional frequency and capacity as part of their overall mission which would have been agreed prior to launch.
kaitak wrote:So does that mean that if Stobart operated 195s to GLA/EDI (or anywhere else), they could be restricted to 100 seats?
AmricanShamrok wrote:Does RE set their own schedules when operating Aer Lingus Regional services? Or does EI dictate the timings?
AmricanShamrok wrote:Does RE set their own schedules when operating Aer Lingus Regional services? Or does EI dictate the timings?
OA260 wrote:A Fianna Fáil TD has said it could be time for Shannon Airport to penalise Aer Lingus for cancelling flights after the airline failed to operate its Shannon to New York service for the third time in a month.
Aer Lingus cancelled their EI-111 Shannon to New York services, as well as the EI-110 return legs, twice in August and again on Saturday.
In two cases, the services were cancelled so the aircraft could be redeployed to Dublin to operate services from there.
OA260 wrote:Aer Lingus criticised for cancelling Shannon flights again
A Fianna Fáil TD has said it could be time for Shannon Airport to penalise Aer Lingus for cancelling flights after the airline failed to operate its Shannon to New York service for the third time in a month.
BrianDromey wrote:OA260 wrote:Aer Lingus criticised for cancelling Shannon flights again
A Fianna Fáil TD has said it could be time for Shannon Airport to penalise Aer Lingus for cancelling flights after the airline failed to operate its Shannon to New York service for the third time in a month.
The key theme is that the aircraft was used from Dublin. Im sure it appeals to the local electorate.
AmricanShamrok wrote:BrianDromey wrote:OA260 wrote:Aer Lingus criticised for cancelling Shannon flights again
A Fianna Fáil TD has said it could be time for Shannon Airport to penalise Aer Lingus for cancelling flights after the airline failed to operate its Shannon to New York service for the third time in a month.
The key theme is that the aircraft was used from Dublin. Im sure it appeals to the local electorate.
I'd be interested in seeing the cost benefit of redeploying the 757 to DUB (not that I ever will). If both flights are full, why not just cancel DUB-BDL rather than spending money transferring the aircraft? Is it a reputation thing to not undermine the "DUB Hub"?
OA260 wrote:Bigger and newer - airline tests the waters for Dublin
Corporate passengers travelling from Istanbul to Ireland last week could have been forgiven for doing a double-take in the business cabin.
While regular travellers are used to Turkish Airlines' workhorses on the Dublin route - the Boeing 737-800 and 900 series - it was a case of two very different beasts operating midweek.
First up on the medium-haul flight (just over three and a half hours) was the Airbus A330-200, with capacity for 30 business passengers.
The widebodied jet is well known by business travellers flying to the US west coast, as it's used to the likes of long-haul LA and San Francisco by Aer Lingus.
It's a case of looking at what ground-handling can deal with, as well as customer feedback. "We're trying each and every member of the fleet to see the preference, and it seems we can manage everything," he said, adding that it could be a situation of a large widebody, such as the Boeing 777, which is the workhorse used by rival Emirates on Dublin-Dubai, being tried out too.
https://m.independent.ie/business/bigge ... 73612.html
CarbHeatIn wrote:The latest rumour is that the two Stobart ERJs are to be wet leased (ACMI) to BA Cityflyer. One based in DUB and one based in LCY.
eirflot wrote:I think EI cancelling Shannon to cover Dublin is unfortunate and starts to make the Shannon service look unreliable. No matter how it is dressed up it looks unprofessional
Don't misunderstand me a Fianna Fail TD saying anything is similar to watching paint drying on a toilet seat - it's all a matter of brand image!!!!!
seansasLCY wrote:CarbHeatIn wrote:The latest rumour is that the two Stobart ERJs are to be wet leased (ACMI) to BA Cityflyer. One based in DUB and one based in LCY.
Highly unlikely given that they are E195 and unable to land at LCY.
kaitak wrote:seansasLCY wrote:CarbHeatIn wrote:The latest rumour is that the two Stobart ERJs are to be wet leased (ACMI) to BA Cityflyer. One based in DUB and one based in LCY.
Highly unlikely given that they are E195 and unable to land at LCY.
The E-190 is able to get into LCY (since the based airline uses them); would it take much work to get the 195 certified for LCY ops? Surely not?
CarbHeatIn wrote:The latest rumour is that the two Stobart ERJs are to be wet leased (ACMI) to BA Cityflyer. One based in DUB and one based in LCY.
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