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JAmie2k9
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Tue Sep 04, 2018 4:36 pm

KeevaOS wrote:
"The sale comes a week after Aer Lingus revealed that it will fly daily between Dublin and London City Airport from October, and ahead of two new North American route announcements due next week - further adding to a growing transatlantic network."

Route Announcement due next week, finally? also the mentioning of "North American" and not only "US" so maybe Montreal (the most likely) will be the one of the new routes?


https://www.independent.ie/life/travel/ ... 80690.html


Due next week doesn't sound like invitations have been sent out yet.
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:37 pm

lavalampluva wrote:
flymco753 wrote:
klm617 wrote:
I am thinking Detroit has to be one of them. Good O/D market to DUB not to mention the additional onward connections from DUB to central Europe plus DTW is offering and incentive package as good or better than most perspective A321 markets. Plus DTW is the largest city with no IAG carrier service. I guessing BWI as the other addition.
I would be utterly surprised if Minneapolis gets added over Detroit. MSP doesn't have a great incentive program, DTW puts up the better numbers in terms of travel to Europe, and if EI has taken notes from WW's service at DTW they have been selling out WOW premium to the point where you can no longer book it. Similar sized plane on a larger market with great opportunities to connect DTW with MAN, BCN, and other important Western Euro markets. Not only that, but Anna.Aero basically called out the airlines for not serving this market. It's also of note, that the DUB and BCN markets nearly doubled from 2016 to 2017 similarly to KEF.

Imo an airport shouldn’t need financial incentives to lure air service. That tends to not work out. If you have a market for whatever that alone should be enough to attract new service.



I agree 100% but most companies will go where the free money is look at the BA flight from BWI to LHR and all the additions PIT gets because of the money they put out there and other markets suffer because of that.
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:30 am

Jet2 takes on 50 new cabin crew at Belfast International

Airline Jet2 has announced plans to recruit 50 new cabin crew members at Belfast International Airport.

It's part of a massive drive to recruit 3,000 staff across Europe. The company said the roles will support its growth after what it described as "a bumper summer".

Jet2 is planning to increase its capacity from Belfast International Airport by another 7% next summer, with more than 450,000 seats on sale.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/busine ... 79100.html

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Major emergency demonstration planned for Cork Airport

Cork Airport’s Fire and Rescue Service is to demonstrate a life-like aircraft emergency simulation as part of the global Emergency Medical Services (EMS) Gathering 2018 next week.

Up to 40 delegates, to include members of the HSE National Ambulance Service, and other national and overseas agencies involved in emergency medicine and pre-hospital emergency care, will take part in the workshop at Cork Airport’s Fire Training Facility on September 12.

www.eveningecho.ie/corknews/Major-emerg ... b8f9320-ds

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Kerry Airport ready for take-off

elation to the transport infrastructure of Farranfore village, which has a population of 84 people (“Time for Kerry Airport to fly alone”, Cantillon, September 1st).

Cantillon mocked the reasoning behind such a small village being so well serviced by rail, bus and air.

The reality is that both the bus service and train service stops are links between Killarney and Tralee, which has a general population of 60,000. Kerry airport serves the county of Kerry (population 147,554), west Limerick, Cork and beyond.

www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/kerr ... 1?mode=amp
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:50 pm

Ryanair add Poznań-Cork for S19
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:04 pm

Skyblue39 wrote:
Ryanair add Poznań-Cork for S19

A welcome return.

Ryanair now serve three Polish cities from Cork; Gdansk, Wroclaw and now Poznan. It's still a long way from the 2007 peak with Wizz but demand has fallen to more realistic and arguably more sustainable levels in recent years. Some will remember Ryanair's successful attempt to run Wizz Air out of Ireland a few years ago, they duplicated the Wizz Air offering from Cork and then subsequently dropped it once Wizz retreated. One of those routes was Poznan.

There's still a large Polish community in Cork, South Tipperary and in the general catchment area of Cork Airport and all three are great city breaks for Irish visitors, Wroclaw in particular is popular with the so called Instagram generation thanks to its colourful old town and miniature dwarf figurines.
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:20 pm

I heard today the new routes are DEN and MSP on A330 , YUL and PIT on 757/321LR
and PHL upgrades to A330
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:31 pm

Shamrock145 wrote:
I heard today the new routes are DEN and MSP on A330 , YUL and PIT on 757/321LR
and PHL upgrades to A330


I thought EL was only announcing two new american routes next week? What source were you able to get this info from as that would be great news. As a PHL follower the upgrade would be awesome as well.
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:36 pm

Shamrock145 wrote:
I heard today the new routes are DEN and MSP on A330 , YUL and PIT on 757/321LR
and PHL upgrades to A330

Four new routes seems a little ambitious and somewhat out of character for Aer Lingus, one A330 route and one 757/321LR route seems more likely considering management have only spoken of two new destinations. Most rumours now point to MSP and YUL but I'm quietly hoping that DEN makes an appearance.

Next Wednesday is announcement day.
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:45 pm

shamrock350 wrote:
Shamrock145 wrote:
I heard today the new routes are DEN and MSP on A330 , YUL and PIT on 757/321LR
and PHL upgrades to A330

Four new routes seems a little ambitious and somewhat out of character for Aer Lingus, one A330 route and one 757/321LR route seems more likely considering management have only spoken of two new destinations. Most rumours now point to MSP and YUL but I'm quietly hoping that DEN makes an appearance.

Next Wednesday is announcement day.



I have heard DTW is going to be one of the new routes. MSP is out of 321 range and it's pretty clear that the 2 new routes will be with the A321
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:55 pm

Heard there are 2 A330 arriving next year alongside any neos that are being delivered plus 757 are staying until 2020 I believe
 
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Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:07 pm

Shamrock145 wrote:
Heard there are 2 A330 arriving next year alongside any neos that are being delivered plus 757 are staying until 2020 I believe


4 new routes is a lot on long haul expansion for an airline the size of EI. Where are your sources? I’m noting from your post history that you suggested EI was considering China in 2015, pre-IAG merger, which would have been unheard of at the time... Is this a similar kind of post...?

Shamrock145 wrote:
I heard today the new routes are DEN and MSP on A330 , YUL and PIT on 757/321LR and PHL upgrades to A330

That’s a lot of capacity in PHL, if you’re right. AA is there too...
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:11 pm

klm617 wrote:
shamrock350 wrote:
Shamrock145 wrote:
I heard today the new routes are DEN and MSP on A330 , YUL and PIT on 757/321LR
and PHL upgrades to A330

Four new routes seems a little ambitious and somewhat out of character for Aer Lingus, one A330 route and one 757/321LR route seems more likely considering management have only spoken of two new destinations. Most rumours now point to MSP and YUL but I'm quietly hoping that DEN makes an appearance.

Next Wednesday is announcement day.



I have heard DTW is going to be one of the new routes. MSP is out of 321 range and it's pretty clear that the 2 new routes will be with the A321


From who? I haven't seen or heard anything that goes against the previously reported YUL and PIT adds both on 321s.
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:04 pm

Without wishing to be too blunt, DTW is a bit of an obsession for KLM617, so y'all please do forgive me if I don't take the suggestion too seriously. That being said I would imagine DTW would happen from DUB before MSP but there you go. I'd believe the theory about 2x A330's coming in sooner than your assertion that both routes are clearly A321LR routes, as the SEA route needs upgrading and the 752 needs shunting off of the PHL route by something in order to go on the YUL route. I am surprised though that the theory would suggest YUL daily on B752 as AC isn't daily or year-round on a B7M8.

I'd trust the 2x A330's and the YUL and MSP suggestion, mind, as the person who has suggested the same on another forum is usually reliable in such matters, and claims often well-sourced. But as to DTW, I can see the route taking off from DUB and soon, however only with DL in my mind.
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:59 pm

Apparently 2 T/A and 2 European to be announced.
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:38 pm

Well 2 A330s arriving next year seems to be popping up in various places.

SEA is rammed by all accounts and needs upgauging, so my guesses are SEA goes daily, DEN gets announced at 4 x weekly, taking care of one frame, PHL goes A330 taking care of the other, leaving a 757 to launch YUL daily.

I think that’ll be it for now if the NEOs have been delayed as long as is being suggested.
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:18 am

HTCone wrote:
Well 2 A330s arriving next year seems to be popping up in various places.

SEA is rammed by all accounts and needs upgauging, so my guesses are SEA goes daily, DEN gets announced at 4 x weekly, taking care of one frame, PHL goes A330 taking care of the other, leaving a 757 to launch YUL daily.

I think that’ll be it for now if the NEOs have been delayed as long as is being suggested.



My question is with AC already on YUL-DUB and with no money to be gotten why would EI chose YUL over an airport that we be offering money to land a new EI flight ? The logic just doesn't seem to be there for me. What have the loads been like on AC's YUL-DUB flight.
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:51 am

HTCone wrote:
SEA is rammed by all accounts and needs upgauging, so my guesses are SEA goes daily ...

Why has SEA been so successful? Is it more O&D tech traffic between DUB and SEA, or connections through DUB to Europe?

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Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:15 am

Norwegian Airlines launches autumn sale with €99 flights from Ireland to the USA

Daily flights to the USA are being discounted during the winter season

Norwegian Airlines is offering holidaymakers flights from Ireland to the USA for as little as €99.

The two week autumn sale will see all transatlantic routes from Dublin and Shannon discounted for the winter season.

www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/norw ... e-13190515
 
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:15 am

planemanofnz wrote:
HTCone wrote:
SEA is rammed by all accounts and needs upgauging, so my guesses are SEA goes daily ...

Why has SEA been so successful? Is it more O&D tech traffic between DUB and SEA, or connections through DUB to Europe?

Cheers,

C.


I’d be guessing, but it’s probably both just like all other EI TATL routes. Microsoft etc, plus all the leasing companies, MROs, Ryanair, Norwegian, Air Contractors would be sending folks to Boeing regularly.

As for YUL, it’s biggest markets are to and from France and UK, which EI would have far more penetration of than AC.
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:22 am

HTCone wrote:
Well 2 A330s arriving next year seems to be popping up in various places.

SEA is rammed by all accounts and needs upgauging, so my guesses are SEA goes daily, DEN gets announced at 4 x weekly, taking care of one frame, PHL goes A330 taking care of the other, leaving a 757 to launch YUL daily.

I think that’ll be it for now if the NEOs have been delayed as long as is being suggested.


The only thing is if EI now feel they need a full-time spare? I think they only have one A330 free three days a week, when SEA doesn't operate. I read in the CityJet/SSJ/SN thread recently that the industry standard is to have one spare out of ~16 frames. 2 additional A330s would take the fleet to 15, plus the 4 757s. One spare to cover 18 lines of flying might be about right?

So it might look like SEA daily, PHL to A330, PIT and YUL on the 757? Two new destinations and a bit of slack in the fleet. If the A321LRs do arrive in time for the summer peak, they might be put on additional flights?
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:15 am

I believe Aer Lingus considered a “spare” for this summer, it even arrived at DUB for a few days before it was decided to be unsuitable...or so the story went.
 
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:54 pm

HTCone wrote:
planemanofnz wrote:
HTCone wrote:
SEA is rammed by all accounts and needs upgauging, so my guesses are SEA goes daily ...

Why has SEA been so successful? Is it more O&D tech traffic between DUB and SEA, or connections through DUB to Europe?

Cheers,

C.


I’d be guessing, but it’s probably both just like all other EI TATL routes. Microsoft etc, plus all the leasing companies, MROs, Ryanair, Norwegian, Air Contractors would be sending folks to Boeing regularly.

As for YUL, it’s biggest markets are to and from France and UK, which EI would have far more penetration of than AC.



Exactly, EI will be selling 30plus UK, France and EU destinations from YUL .... low hanging fruit
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:04 pm

shamrock350 wrote:
I believe Aer Lingus considered a “spare” for this summer, it even arrived at DUB for a few days before it was decided to be unsuitable...or so the story went.


Intersting. Speaking of "spares", is the ex-QR 332 being refitted over the winter? Have they done anything at all with the cabin? I know Business is it was in the QR days, but even Economy?
 
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:07 pm

BrianDromey wrote:
shamrock350 wrote:
I believe Aer Lingus considered a “spare” for this summer, it even arrived at DUB for a few days before it was decided to be unsuitable...or so the story went.


Intersting. Speaking of "spares", is the ex-QR 332 being refitted over the winter? Have they done anything at all with the cabin? I know Business is it was in the QR days, but even Economy?


Y was changed, just J over winter.
 
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:24 pm

shamrock350 wrote:
I believe Aer Lingus considered a “spare” for this summer, it even arrived at DUB for a few days before it was decided to be unsuitable...or so the story went.


Any more details? Or was this the A330 that ended up at Air Italy?
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:37 pm

aerlingusa330 wrote:
shamrock350 wrote:
I believe Aer Lingus considered a “spare” for this summer, it even arrived at DUB for a few days before it was decided to be unsuitable...or so the story went.


Any more details? Or was this the A330 that ended up at Air Italy?



Ex VIM airlines, I heard EI engineers got a look at it in the hangar and didn’t want anything to do with it. Money pit.
 
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:00 am

HTCone wrote:
aerlingusa330 wrote:
shamrock350 wrote:
I believe Aer Lingus considered a “spare” for this summer, it even arrived at DUB for a few days before it was decided to be unsuitable...or so the story went.


Any more details? Or was this the A330 that ended up at Air Italy?



Ex VIM airlines, I heard EI engineers got a look at it in the hangar and didn’t want anything to do with it. Money pit.

Yep, it was definitely something along those lines. They were really scraping the barrel with a former VIM Airlines, the aircraft was delivered to them in December 2016 and withdrawn the following September, the airline went bust shortly after and the aircraft was returned to the lessor but ended up in storage for over 7 months until Aer Lingus took a look at it. Once it was rejected by Aer Lingus it was returned to storage and remains at LDE to this day which makes me wonder what kind of condition a relatively young A332 must be in for it to still not find a home.
 
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:11 am

Major expansion planned for Dublin Airport

DAA to invest €900m in piers and stands, with another €320m earmarked for new runway

Dublin Airport plans to spend €900 million by 2023 on an expansion that will allow it to handle up to 40 million passengers a year. The spending will come in addition to the estimated €320 million the airport’s owner, State company Dublin Airport Authority, is on track to invest in a new runway.

DAA could next month name the main contractor to build the new runway, needed to cope with traffic at Dublin Airport, which is now at more than 30 million passengers a year. However, chief executive, Dalton Philips, warned in an interview with The Irish Times that the airport must also tackle bottlenecks at the piers where aircraft park and passengers board or disembark.

DAA intends spending €500 million on new piers and aircraft stands at the southern side of Dublin Airport and €400 million doing the same at the northern end to solve this problem.

The €900 million that DAA plans to spend on Dublin Airport will increase the number of aircraft stands from 112 to 147 – “about 30 per cent” – Mr Philips said, giving it the space to handle up to 40 million passengers annually.

www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-a ... -1.3621033
 
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:21 am

Both Icelandair and WOW are pulling out of CLE which may now prompt Ohio to consider offering incentives to operate to the airport. I wonder if this might change things for EI?

Splitting traffic between FI and WW was damaging, coupled with the relative inconvenience of the KEF hub I wonder of DUB would be a better proposition
 
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:01 am

The DAA are at it again
Increasing the size of the airport to cater for 40 million by 2023 - based on the delays to starting the new runway and the usual silly planning delays, the new developments will probably arrive at the same time as the 40 million passengers! Could they not aim for 50 million?
 
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:27 am

eirflot wrote:
The DAA are at it again
Increasing the size of the airport to cater for 40 million by 2023 - based on the delays to starting the new runway and the usual silly planning delays, the new developments will probably arrive at the same time as the 40 million passengers! Could they not aim for 50 million?


It's a newspaper interview. I wouldn't treat it as a detailed or fully accurate presentation of the DAA's plans.
 
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:23 am

Irish251
You just made him sound like the Donald! The DAA plans are always shrouded in mystery, heresay and even makebelief! They always seem to be adding bits without there being an achievable and realistic goal!
 
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:43 am

eirflot wrote:
The DAA are at it again
Increasing the size of the airport to cater for 40 million by 2023 - based on the delays to starting the new runway and the usual silly planning delays, the new developments will probably arrive at the same time as the 40 million passengers! Could they not aim for 50 million?


Remember Terminal 2 and the screaming that it was a waste of money, a white elephant and would never be useful? People bleating about the money better spent elsewhere?

Well looks like they got it right in the end, because without it, the airport would be a hell hole.

They're damned if they do, damned if they don't at the DAA. I don't think they're doing a bad job, Dublin Airport is pretty good - could be better, but they're working on it.
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:15 pm

I always stated that Terminal 2 was required. What I did not agree with was the location and the cost - particularly the cost. It is a relatively new structure but it is already showing its age and I don't mean the design!
Instead of being able to extend it they have to find sonewhere else and probably create Terminal 3 - an airport the size of DUB does not require three terminals!
Everything seems to be a plug and fix!

Maybe that's the way it is supposed to be, I don't know!
 
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:48 pm

In other (pretty minor) news - Icelandair goes daily next summer.
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:15 pm

Just completed DFW/LHR/SNN r/t.
Best transatlantic trip for years.
All 4 flts pushed back ahead of schedule and arrived early also. First transatlantic crossings in years with zero turbulence.
Had not been thru LHR in 20 years and was apprehensive of our tight transit times of 1.5 hrs on arrival and 2 hrs for departure. Both T3 to T2 and T2 to T5 tranfers were quick and easy. Agent at passport control on arrival from DFW said we got lucky as we had arrived to his area just ahead of 3 A380 arrivals.
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AA 777-300 much better cabin than the much older BA 747(CIVD) but the BA cabin crew (including 1 Dubliner) were streets ahead of the AA crew. EI crews were friendly and efficient as always. Arrival and departure at SNN were a pleasure compared to previous trips thru DUB.
 
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Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:20 pm

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Instead of being able to extend it they have to find sonewhere else and probably create Terminal 3 - an airport the size of DUB does not require three terminals!
Everything seems to be a plug and fix!

Agreed - indeed its a shame that Terminal 2 was built where it is at all - it should have been built west of the new tower with the freedom and space then to expand it as necessary a lot more easily than the job they face now. Of course this would have cost a lot more than T2 eventually did; with the land not in DAA ownership and much more significant infrastructural undertakings (primarily roads) needed versus where T2 now stands. However over the long term it would have been a much wiser decision and would have prevented a lot of the daily problems we see with bottlenecks and congestion now.

For passengers, the experience inside the terminals is average like most other airports in Europe but out on the airfield DUB has a lot of room for improvement. Many of DUB's problems simply just don't happen in most other airports. Some airlines used to (if not still do) send crew on training and checking flights to DUB because of the challenges you would inevitably face there!
 
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Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:28 pm

TAP announces Dublin as a 2019 route - https://jornaleconomico.sapo.pt/noticia ... ano-352378
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Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:00 am

Locals opposed to second Dublin Airport runway to be offered payments to leave homes
Some locals opposed to a second runway at Dublin Airport have been offered payments to leave their homes under a voluntary scheme put in place by the company.

Those who qualify for the scheme live near the proposed €320m project.

www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/irel ... 67429.html

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Council demands urgent release of £2.5m for CoDA London rout

Derry City and Strabane District Council (DC&SDC) is to hold crunch talks with leading civil servants to demand £2.5million in route development funding for City of Derry Airport is urgently released Top council officers have already met with the head of the civil service in the North, David Sterling, to insist that a pledge of £2.5 million in route support issued by the last Northern Ireland Executive two years ago is honoured.

www.derryjournal.com/news/council-deman ... -1-8626638

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Belfast and Bombardier to benefit from £500m London airport expansion

A SENIOR director at London City Airport has said that Belfast and Bombardier are at the heart of a £500 million expansion programme.

Speaking to The Irish News in Westminster this week, Liam McKay, director of corporate affairs at London City believes both have a key role to play in growth at the airport, with the prospect of better air links between the cities and new contracts for the Canadian manufacturer.

As part of the major expansion at the London airport, which will see the terminal quadruple in size and the creation of a new full-length parallel taxiway, Mr McKay hopes that the frequency of the north's only air link with London City - FlyBe's service from Belfast City Airport, will increase to seven return flights a day.

"It is without question FlyBe's most successful route from London City Airport," he said.

"It has moved from five rotations a day to six. Last year there was about 120,000 people on that route and we've reached that number already.

www.irishnews.com/business/2018/09/07/n ... n-1426902/
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:21 pm

Phen wrote:
For passengers, the experience inside the terminals is average like most other airports in Europe but out on the airfield DUB has a lot of room for improvement. Many of DUB's problems simply just don't happen in most other airports.

That sounds accurate enough.

eirflot wrote:
Irish251
You just made him sound like the Donald! The DAA plans are always shrouded in mystery, heresay and even makebelief! They always seem to be adding bits without there being an achievable and realistic goal!

Aiming for 40mppa is probably an achievable and realistic goal. Going for 50mppa would certainly make the airlines and regulator suspicious. The airlines have to pay for it in the end. And while we have had a good run, we can't assume growth continues indefinitely.

As long as whatever they do for 40mppa doesn't rule out anything for 50mppa.
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:08 pm

Actually we the passengers pay for the DAA - warts and all. And we pay directly and indirectly! Yet we are never asked to submit our ideas or plans

Your point on 40m versus 50m is correct - I simply want them to think past 4om being the end game and put the bloody extension in a place where it can be further extended if tequired
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:45 pm

Just read this with a mention of new routes to Pittsburgh and Montreal.
www.travelextra.ie/travel-extra-sunday- ... er-9-2018/
TRAVEL Extra Sunday Supplement: 09SEP18
Headlines
Behind the Headlines
"Is the cold war between Aer Lingus and Dublin airport warming up since the new passenger transfer facilities were opened? Apparently so. Simon McAllister, from research company EY (confusingly, the call sign of Etihad) will present a report, the Economic Impact of Development of Dublin Airport as a hub, on Wednesday at a lunchtime event where Aer Lingus announce their two latest trans-Atlantic routes. Stephen Kavanagh will announce the services to Pittsburgh and Montreal, bringing to 22 the number of trans-Atlantic destinations served directly from Dublin, 15 of them by Aer Lingus. Travel Extra remembers when there were just three, and they were via a compulsory Shannon stopover."
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:42 am

TAP have just put x2 daily LIS on sale.
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:42 am

TP has just confirmed the schedule for LIS-DUB
2x Daily with a mix of A319/A320
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:53 am

JAmie2k9 wrote:
TAP have just put x2 daily LIS on sale.

Sheesh - DUB is on fire! This, on top of new carriers like CX, HU, SU, and heaps of existing carriers starting new services (like AA, AC and DY) all in the space of 12 months!

Cheers,

C.
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:05 am

santos wrote:
TP has just confirmed the schedule for LIS-DUB
2x Daily with a mix of A319/A320


2 daily on an A32x is a big launch. I assume the schedule allows relatively short connections to South America in both directions. I can't find it anywhere.
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:16 am

Schedule seems to be:
LIS 07:05 - DUB 09:50
DUB 10:35 - LIS 13:15
LIS 14:00 - DUB 16:45
DUB 17:30 - LIS 20:10
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:21 am

BrianDromey wrote:
santos wrote:
TP has just confirmed the schedule for LIS-DUB
2x Daily with a mix of A319/A320


2 daily on an A32x is a big launch. I assume the schedule allows relatively short connections to South America in both directions. I can't find it anywhere.


Yes for example DUB-LIS 1730/2010 then LIS-GRU 2320/0520 or DUB-LIS 1035/1315 then LIS-REC 1705/2045 . Also opens up easy Wintersun connections to SID which is a good option for the Irish outbound bucket and spade with a difference type of holiday. Nett fares are being given and TP are working with Tour Operators especially those that specialise in South America. Great to see them back after all these years.
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:31 am

OA260 wrote:
Yes for example DUB-LIS 1730/2010 then LIS-GRU 2320/0520


TP have certainly got connections in mind, hopefully it works out really well for them. When TP launched MAN with an E190 the connections didn't work very well in one direction. IIRC TAP now fly twice daily to MAN. The schedule would also work reasonably for FNC. Is there any direct flight to Madeira these days, even a charter? I thought EI operated it at one stage?
 
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Re: Irish 9/18: Autumnal aviation

Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:38 am

BrianDromey wrote:
OA260 wrote:
Yes for example DUB-LIS 1730/2010 then LIS-GRU 2320/0520


When TP launched MAN with an E190 the connections didn't work very well in one direction. IIRC TAP now fly twice daily to MAN. The schedule would also work reasonably for FNC. Is there any direct flight to Madeira these days, even a charter? I thought EI operated it at one stage?


There used to be an ASL/Air Contractors charter to Madeira. I think it last operated in summer 2016.
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