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Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:49 am

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Is QF been a bit light on A330s at the moment? I notice QF37/38 (MEL-SIN-MEL) rotations have been cancelled for the past 2 days. Of course, it could be that bookings were a bit light and QF have shifted pax onto the codeshared EK405 ,an A380 which departs about 90 minutes after the scheduled QF37.


Light loads are unusual to cancel a flight these days - crew still have to be paid min hours, crew hotel rooms, aircraft out of rotation, pax reacxompdation, GHA charges, brand damage. Domestic is a bit different of course.

Lucky they didn’t go ahead with PER-AKL, and PER-JNB this year in the end, with the 737 pilot issues would have left them very lean!! Wonder if they’d be interested in one or two second hand ones for some cheap lift atm?
 
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Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:15 am

This week marks 10 years for the A388 in QF's fleet

http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/0 ... -delivery/
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Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:44 pm

Currently PER is operating mostly on runways 6/24 instead of 3/21 due to tunnelling for the new airport rail link

https://blueswandaily.com/perth-airport ... rogresses/
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:46 pm

Couple of things regarding VA

AZ to codeshare on VA NZ routes

https://blueswandaily.com/alitalia-to-e ... australia/

VA and Tourism Australia launch new marketing campaign for HKG services

https://blueswandaily.com/tourism-austr ... australia/
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Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:48 pm

Video of the Edelweiss A343 departing SYD the other day

https://twitter.com/www16Right/status/1 ... 6542348289
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Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:13 pm

Qantas is under fire for removing music from 717's and 737's on domestic flights, is this really a big deal when pretty much most people carry around a smart phone or tablet for this sort of thing now?

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/qan ... c-flights/
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Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:01 pm

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Qantas is under fire for removing music from 717's and 737's on domestic flights, is this really a big deal when pretty much most people carry around a smart phone or tablet for this sort of thing now?

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/qan ... c-flights/


The average person doesn’t care as most people use streaming services in real life. Like most news, this is only getting air because a few people complained on Twitter.

With Wi-Fi across the entire domestic fleet within the next 12 months, there is no need for this. They also have a commercial partnership with Apple Music. Expect the TV and movie libraries to get thinner as well as QF push people onto Netflix and Stan.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:08 pm

VA has secured a new 5 year deal with the AFL.

http://afl.com.au/news/2018-09-20/virgi ... eyear-deal

I wonder how hard VA bidded to keep this.
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Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:20 pm

MEL saw a 5.2% increase in passenger numbers in August compared to the same time last year

https://twitter.com/AirservicesNews/sta ... 9166019584
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Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:35 pm

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Qantas is under fire for removing music from 717's and 737's on domestic flights, is this really a big deal when pretty much most people carry around a smart phone or tablet for this sort of thing now?

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/qan ... c-flights/


Add the domestic A330s as well, I flew two of them PER-SYD-PER a few weeks back and noticed how abysmal (correction: non-existent) the music selection was. I notice the link makes a point of referencing only the internationally config'd A330.
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Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:55 pm

SYD airport posted a 3.8% increase in passengers in August.

https://assets.ctfassets.net/v228i5y5k0 ... c_2018.pdf
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:52 am

CX and QF announce a new codeshare covering Perth and Cairns Cathay flights, Cathay Pacific South East Asia and Subcontinent flights and Qantas domestic.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... ia-closer/
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:09 am

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CX and QF announce a new codeshare covering Perth and Cairns Cathay flights, Cathay Pacific South East Asia and Subcontinent flights and Qantas domestic.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... ia-closer/


Is this another slap in the face for VA? VA didn't have the foresight to partner with CX when the time was right and instead chose HX. And now it's all too late. This is NZ deja vu all over again.

I wonder if this was triggered by the recent financial trouble at CX or that QF wanted to humiliate VA once more? Probably a bit of both.

And where is VA promised AC partnership?
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:22 am

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CX and QF announce a new codeshare covering Perth and Cairns Cathay flights, Cathay Pacific South East Asia and Subcontinent flights and Qantas domestic.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... ia-closer/


Whilst I understand no codeshare on BNE/SYD/MEL as QF operate flights to HKG from there, I am surprised they didn't codeshare on ADL-HKG...
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:22 am

getluv wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Qantas is under fire for removing music from 717's and 737's on domestic flights, is this really a big deal when pretty much most people carry around a smart phone or tablet for this sort of thing now?

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/qan ... c-flights/


The average person doesn’t care as most people use streaming services in real life. Like most news, this is only getting air because a few people complained on Twitter.

With Wi-Fi across the entire domestic fleet within the next 12 months, there is no need for this. They also have a commercial partnership with Apple Music. Expect the TV and movie libraries to get thinner as well as QF push people onto Netflix and Stan.


I use QF's (and VA's) music library's purely to make sure I don't miss out on crew announcements. Removing them is no big deal for me because, as what others have said, I can bring my own music to listen to. Nothing quite like listening to the Norwegian boarding music while looking out the window at 37000 feet.
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:38 am

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Pcoder wrote:
CX and QF announce a new codeshare covering Perth and Cairns Cathay flights, Cathay Pacific South East Asia and Subcontinent flights and Qantas domestic.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... ia-closer/


Whilst I understand no codeshare on BNE/SYD/MEL as QF operate flights to HKG from there, I am surprised they didn't codeshare on ADL-HKG...


I would think its because there would be a decent amount of traffic connecting from ADL to those flights that QF would rather retain
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:06 am

QF could announce PER-CDG by March 19

https://twitter.com/ausbt/status/104296 ... 75072?s=21
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:34 am

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Qantas16 wrote:
Pcoder wrote:
CX and QF announce a new codeshare covering Perth and Cairns Cathay flights, Cathay Pacific South East Asia and Subcontinent flights and Qantas domestic.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... ia-closer/


Whilst I understand no codeshare on BNE/SYD/MEL as QF operate flights to HKG from there, I am surprised they didn't codeshare on ADL-HKG...


I would think its because there would be a decent amount of traffic connecting from ADL to those flights that QF would rather retain


Also interesting so see the codeshare destinations in India, Sri Lanka, Vietnam and Myanmar. For India especially I wonder if this is a hedge against any possible move from Jets Airways into Skyteam along with giving QF more destinations since the Jet Airways codeshare only covers Mumbai, Delhi and Bangalore. Also interesting in Vietnam that QF codeshare with Jetstar Pacific and Jetstar Asia out of Singapore and now with CX to Hong Kong. So you have LCC if you travel via SIN but full service on the codeshare travelling via HKG. Either way it builds feed at a key Asian gateway for QF and, hopefully, leads to bigger and better things with CX.
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:29 am

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QF could announce PER-CDG by March 19

https://twitter.com/ausbt/status/104296 ... 75072?s=21


This is a good example of clickbait. There's nothing in the article that is actually new information or does AusBT present any evidence that it will be announced by March 2019.
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:49 am

getluv wrote:
qf789 wrote:
QF could announce PER-CDG by March 19

https://twitter.com/ausbt/status/104296 ... 75072?s=21


This is a good example of clickbait. There's nothing in the article that is actually new information or does AusBT present any evidence that it will be announced by March 2019.


Nor do they provide any of the evidence they explicitly claim exists of a "thawing" in the relationship between QF and PAPL... literally one sentence saying things have thawed out (under a heading suggesting that, because of said thawing, PER-JNB might be back on the cards), and the rest of the article simply rehashes why the relationship was frosty in the first place. I'll never get that minute of my life back. And I don't actually believe either CDG or PER-JNB will be announced according to AusBT's predictions... but happy to be proven wrong!
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:50 am

xiaotung wrote:
Pcoder wrote:
CX and QF announce a new codeshare covering Perth and Cairns Cathay flights, Cathay Pacific South East Asia and Subcontinent flights and Qantas domestic.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... ia-closer/


Is this another slap in the face for VA? VA didn't have the foresight to partner with CX when the time was right and instead chose HX. And now it's all too late. This is NZ deja vu all over again.

I wonder if this was triggered by the recent financial trouble at CX or that QF wanted to humiliate VA once more? Probably a bit of both.

And where is VA promised AC partnership?


Odd logic you have there. CX and QF are core members of Oneworld, albeit they've had a testy relationship for some time. If anything, this is long overdue. Shouldn't your attention be focused on why it took so long for CX and QF to codeshare on these routes?

It's a long bow to draw to suggest that this is somehow a big slap to Virgin. I mean, really, how likely do you think it was that CX, a Oneworld airline, would partner with VA, the core and only competitor in the home market to QF, a Oneworld member? I get the criticism of VA - though it's almost at fetish-levels on the New Zealand thread - but I'd suggest keeping it focused on the things that actually warrant the criticism.
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:55 am

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I'm getting more and more worried for VA as the break with NZ gets closer next month.
I really can't see how VA is going to compete on the Tasman, and to the lesser extent, to the Pacific Islands from New Zealand.

It's going to be a bloodbath for VA from what I can tell. What can VA do?


Out of interest, what changed between VA announcing their Tasman plans and now to suddenly heighten your concern? And an you explain your concern for the Pacific Islands? What's changed there given it was outside the scope of the NZ agreement anyway?
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:52 am

aerokiwi wrote:
aerohottie wrote:
I'm getting more and more worried for VA as the break with NZ gets closer next month.
I really can't see how VA is going to compete on the Tasman, and to the lesser extent, to the Pacific Islands from New Zealand.

It's going to be a bloodbath for VA from what I can tell. What can VA do?


Out of interest, what changed between VA announcing their Tasman plans and now to suddenly heighten your concern? And an you explain your concern for the Pacific Islands? What's changed there given it was outside the scope of the NZ agreement anyway?


+1.

Whether VA has been well run is a question but what people forget is that there are a lot of Velocity members in Australia ( granted not near as many as QFF ) so there will be a degree of loyalty to VA. Some of whom would fly on NZ due to the partnership with NZ who now won't. It's not a one way street and it's possible NZ will lose some passengers.

I'm QF Platinum and VA Gold - if I travel across the Tasman I won't be going NZ. I enjoy flying both QF and VA.
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:15 am

The QF code on CX PER-HKG is LONG overdue. I used to laugh whenever I’d do a dummy search and see them try and route me PER-SYD-HKG as their most competitive route.
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:48 am

The main problem VA will have on trans-Tasman flights is the few business class pax they have are usually NZ codeshare pax- QF & NZ control the premium end of the market/corporate accounts on these sectors.
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:54 am

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The QF code on CX PER-HKG is LONG overdue. I used to laugh whenever I’d do a dummy search and see them try and route me PER-SYD-HKG as their most competitive route.


Just searched for some flights from CNS to HKG in Feb on the Qantas booking site, all options presented were QF metal via BNE or SYD. No thanks!

Even google flights show me that you can fly directly CNS to HKG, why can't Australia's OneWorld alliance airline offer me the option of a flight on their partner? They seem happy to route me through BNE, SYD and even hilariously SIN via Jetstar Asia.

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Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:16 pm

According to the AusBT article the CX/QF codeshare flights are available to book from October 22nd with flights commencing from October 28th.... prob why you still see the flights via Syd.
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:23 pm

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QF could announce PER-CDG by March 19

https://twitter.com/ausbt/status/104296 ... 75072?s=21


I have been trying to wrap my head around how QF plans to pull this off and am left wondering if they intend to drop SIN-LHR and just have a single daily to both LHR and CDG (and maybe FRA) via PER. I don’t necessarily think this would be a good idea for various reasons but even with increased utilisation I can’t see how they intend to do everything they are talking about with the aircraft they have on order.
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:13 pm

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Odd logic you have there. CX and QF are core members of Oneworld, albeit they've had a testy relationship for some time. If anything, this is long overdue. Shouldn't your attention be focused on why it took so long for CX and QF to codeshare on these routes?

It's a long bow to draw to suggest that this is somehow a big slap to Virgin. I mean, really, how likely do you think it was that CX, a Oneworld airline, would partner with VA, the core and only competitor in the home market to QF, a Oneworld member? I get the criticism of VA - though it's almost at fetish-levels on the New Zealand thread - but I'd suggest keeping it focused on the things that actually warrant the criticism.


I think what some people are pointing out is that VA had an opportunity to exploit a QF weakness, and it didn't. oneworld's rules are that relaxed, QF wouldn't be able to stop CX/VA teaming up.

eastwest101 wrote:
ben175 wrote:
The QF code on CX PER-HKG is LONG overdue. I used to laugh whenever I’d do a dummy search and see them try and route me PER-SYD-HKG as their most competitive route.


Just searched for some flights from CNS to HKG in Feb on the Qantas booking site, all options presented were QF metal via BNE or SYD. No thanks!
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Read the press releases and most news articles and it tells you bookings won't open until late October. It pays to get the facts first.
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:18 pm

getluv wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Qantas is under fire for removing music from 717's and 737's on domestic flights, is this really a big deal when pretty much most people carry around a smart phone or tablet for this sort of thing now?

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/qan ... c-flights/


The average person doesn’t care as most people use streaming services in real life. Like most news, this is only getting air because a few people complained on Twitter.

With Wi-Fi across the entire domestic fleet within the next 12 months, there is no need for this. They also have a commercial partnership with Apple Music. Expect the TV and movie libraries to get thinner as well as QF push people onto Netflix and Stan.


Agree. AA have done it (doing it) on their new 737's Leaving pax to use the onboard internet
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:30 pm

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CX and QF announce a new codeshare covering Perth and Cairns Cathay flights, Cathay Pacific South East Asia and Subcontinent flights and Qantas domestic.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... ia-closer/



Could there be any possibility this agreement between Cathay and Qantas have any broader issues, like where the possible governments (with the airlines blessing), look at a more open bilateral agreement (open skies)?
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:16 pm

ZuluAlpha wrote:
Pcoder wrote:
CX and QF announce a new codeshare covering Perth and Cairns Cathay flights, Cathay Pacific South East Asia and Subcontinent flights and Qantas domestic.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... ia-closer/



Could there be any possibility this agreement between Cathay and Qantas have any broader issues, like where the possible governments (with the airlines blessing), look at a more open bilateral agreement (open skies)?


I believe this codeshare is coming from the following points:
    -Jet Airways bad financial, risking QF link to India via Singapore
    -VA/HX partnership threatening the Oneworld "monopoly" on the route
    -CX eager to get a share of QF high yield frequent flyers
    -QF losing customer to CX on routes they don't operate (PER-HKG mainly)

Any new bilateral is unlikely since it would only benefit the Hong Kong side which has already maxed out. Qantas is probably firmly against it.
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:19 pm

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qf789 wrote:
QF could announce PER-CDG by March 19

https://twitter.com/ausbt/status/104296 ... 75072?s=21


I have been trying to wrap my head around how QF plans to pull this off and am left wondering if they intend to drop SIN-LHR and just have a single daily to both LHR and CDG (and maybe FRA) via PER. I don’t necessarily think this would be a good idea for various reasons but even with increased utilisation I can’t see how they intend to do everything they are talking about with the aircraft they have on order.


I don’t think Qantas have the aircraft to launch this route unless they order more 789. The only possibility I could think of is of the AA-QF JV is approved then perhaps AA would take over some QF flying to the USA. Let’s say this equates to 1 frame and then pulling the 789 from HKG would be another.
Could 2 frames be enough to operate east coast-PER-CDG?
 
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Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:39 pm

QF742 wrote:
qf002 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
QF could announce PER-CDG by March 19

https://twitter.com/ausbt/status/104296 ... 75072?s=21


I have been trying to wrap my head around how QF plans to pull this off and am left wondering if they intend to drop SIN-LHR and just have a single daily to both LHR and CDG (and maybe FRA) via PER. I don’t necessarily think this would be a good idea for various reasons but even with increased utilisation I can’t see how they intend to do everything they are talking about with the aircraft they have on order.


I don’t think Qantas have the aircraft to launch this route unless they order more 789. The only possibility I could think of is of the AA-QF JV is approved then perhaps AA would take over some QF flying to the USA. Let’s say this equates to 1 frame and then pulling the 789 from HKG would be another.
Could 2 frames be enough to operate east coast-PER-CDG?


QF won’t go to a single daily LHR if they launch CDG, I’m not quite sure how that conclusion was reached.

QF have 6 more 789’s coming after the initial 8, most likely SYD based, QF will take the HKG aircraft for another route maybe ex BNE to ORD and remove the additional LAX. Or AA do BNE-LAX additional frequencies if the JV goes through.

Ex SYD they can move aircraft around with more A330’s to International which in turn can allow a CDG-PER-SYD-SFO Vv with 4 frames, SFO would be retimed. They would need 3 to do just SYD-PER-CDG however.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:39 am

Pretty cool seeing an Air Caraibes A330 parked at the MEL international terminal today. How long is Aircalin using this aircraft?
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:29 am

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ben175 wrote:
The QF code on CX PER-HKG is LONG overdue. I used to laugh whenever I’d do a dummy search and see them try and route me PER-SYD-HKG as their most competitive route.


Just searched for some flights from CNS to HKG in Feb on the Qantas booking site, all options presented were QF metal via BNE or SYD. No thanks!

Even google flights show me that you can fly directly CNS to HKG, why can't Australia's OneWorld alliance airline offer me the option of a flight on their partner? They seem happy to route me through BNE, SYD and even hilariously SIN via Jetstar Asia.

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Dramatic statement. Obviously they would prefer you fly via BNE or SYD and stay on QF-group metal where they make more money. Until the codeshare is in place, they'd earn very little off selling you a ticket on CX's CNS-HKG.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:54 am

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ben175 wrote:
The QF code on CX PER-HKG is LONG overdue. I used to laugh whenever I’d do a dummy search and see them try and route me PER-SYD-HKG as their most competitive route.


Just searched for some flights from CNS to HKG in Feb on the Qantas booking site, all options presented were QF metal via BNE or SYD. No thanks!

Even google flights show me that you can fly directly CNS to HKG, why can't Australia's OneWorld alliance airline offer me the option of a flight on their partner? They seem happy to route me through BNE, SYD and even hilariously SIN via Jetstar Asia.

Qantas - The Spirit of Sydney.........

If your priorities are Oneworld related, maybe you should use this booking tool instead of qantas.com?:
https://www.oneworld.com/
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:59 am

aerokiwi wrote:
xiaotung wrote:
Pcoder wrote:
CX and QF announce a new codeshare covering Perth and Cairns Cathay flights, Cathay Pacific South East Asia and Subcontinent flights and Qantas domestic.

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... ia-closer/


Is this another slap in the face for VA? VA didn't have the foresight to partner with CX when the time was right and instead chose HX. And now it's all too late. This is NZ deja vu all over again.

I wonder if this was triggered by the recent financial trouble at CX or that QF wanted to humiliate VA once more? Probably a bit of both.

And where is VA promised AC partnership?


Odd logic you have there. CX and QF are core members of Oneworld, albeit they've had a testy relationship for some time. If anything, this is long overdue. Shouldn't your attention be focused on why it took so long for CX and QF to codeshare on these routes?

It's a long bow to draw to suggest that this is somehow a big slap to Virgin. I mean, really, how likely do you think it was that CX, a Oneworld airline, would partner with VA, the core and only competitor in the home market to QF, a Oneworld member? I get the criticism of VA - though it's almost at fetish-levels on the New Zealand thread - but I'd suggest keeping it focused on the things that actually warrant the criticism.


I remember before HNA came along there was speculation and analytical articles that suggested CX could be a logical partner for VA. I think it remains valid that because VA, QF have successfully turned 2 enemies into frenemies. As for the oneworld connection, I don't think it matters that much. Just look at how QF chose EK over QR.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:01 am

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I have been trying to wrap my head around how QF plans to pull this off and am left wondering if they intend to drop SIN-LHR and just have a single daily to both LHR and CDG (and maybe FRA) via PER. I don’t necessarily think this would be a good idea for various reasons but even with increased utilisation I can’t see how they intend to do everything they are talking about with the aircraft they have on order.


I don’t think Qantas have the aircraft to launch this route unless they order more 789. The only possibility I could think of is of the AA-QF JV is approved then perhaps AA would take over some QF flying to the USA. Let’s say this equates to 1 frame and then pulling the 789 from HKG would be another.
Could 2 frames be enough to operate east coast-PER-CDG?


QF won’t go to a single daily LHR if they launch CDG, I’m not quite sure how that conclusion was reached.

QF have 6 more 789’s coming after the initial 8, most likely SYD based, QF will take the HKG aircraft for another route maybe ex BNE to ORD and remove the additional LAX. Or AA do BNE-LAX additional frequencies if the JV goes through.

Ex SYD they can move aircraft around with more A330’s to International which in turn can allow a CDG-PER-SYD-SFO Vv with 4 frames, SFO would be retimed. They would need 3 to do just SYD-PER-CDG however.


When do the 6 additional start arriving?

I’d imagine if the AA QF JV gets up we’ll see the end of MEL/BNE-LAX (excluding the JFK one) along with HKG on a 789. That should free up a frame or more shouldn’t it?

I wonder if CDG, and JNB were to be started if an A330 could be found for AKL to feed into the other routes?

Again seems to make sense to me to hold onto the 744 for a bit longer until more 789s are on the property. A few within QF have mumbled a senior fleet manager seems obsessively focused on removing the 744s, to the point of ignoring logic. However this could be normal airline rumour and mid management dissatisfaction.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:16 am

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The QF code on CX PER-HKG is LONG overdue. I used to laugh whenever I’d do a dummy search and see them try and route me PER-SYD-HKG as their most competitive route.


Just searched for some flights from CNS to HKG in Feb on the Qantas booking site, all options presented were QF metal via BNE or SYD. No thanks!

Even google flights show me that you can fly directly CNS to HKG, why can't Australia's OneWorld alliance airline offer me the option of a flight on their partner? They seem happy to route me through BNE, SYD and even hilariously SIN via Jetstar Asia.

Qantas - The Spirit of Sydney.........

If your priorities are Oneworld related, maybe you should use this booking tool instead of qantas.com?:
https://www.oneworld.com/


Thanks for reminding me about the OneWorld site - CX prices, options and schedules were far more reasonable than those offered on the QF site.

As others have pointed out - a lot of codeshares not loaded or available yet so will be interesting to see how the picture changes once this is done.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:49 am

Extra flights to be added on PER-MEL this week

https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/af ... b88965391z
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:02 am

Qantas has added 8 extra flights between PER and MEL between Thursday and Sunday, more to follow
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:07 am

QF extra flights for this week

Thurs 27/9 PER-MEL
QF1331 1235-1805 332
QF1333 2355-525 332

Fri 28/9 PER-MEL
QF1331 935-1505 332
QF1333 2355-525+1 332

Sat 29/9 MEL-PER
QF1332 2030-2240 332

Sun 30/9 MEL-PER
QF1332 1025-1235 332
QF1201 1210-1420 738
QF1334 2030-2240 332
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:41 pm

qf789 wrote:
QF extra flights for this week

Thurs 27/9 PER-MEL
QF1331 1235-1805 332
QF1333 2355-525 332

Fri 28/9 PER-MEL
QF1331 935-1505 332
QF1333 2355-525+1 332

Sat 29/9 MEL-PER
QF1332 2030-2240 332

Sun 30/9 MEL-PER
QF1332 1025-1235 332
QF1201 1210-1420 738
QF1334 2030-2240 332


I'm wondering if QF is now regretting not holding onto OJT for a little longer although I've no doubt she's about to cycle/time out maintenance wise and this has been carefully calculated.

Completely hypothetical if QF were to use a A380 on a domestic rotation which gate would it use at PER?
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:26 pm

Hey guys,
Could Turkish announce Australian services as part of the opening celebrations of the new Istanbul airport?!?! Adding 'direct' flights to the only inhabited continent they don't fly to would seem to be a 'big thing' to them.
I suspect initially via Asia and later nonstop. 787-9s to be later upgraded to (yet to be ordered) A350ULRs or 777-8s.
I suspect that they (along with Air NZ and I possibly other airlines like Ethiopian) are watching closely the Qantas Project Sunrise developments. This could well be the reason that the ET order for 777Xs hasn't been firmed up yet.
On that matter, 777-8 upgrades for a possible QF order = '777-8SP' marketing label?!?!? Nice link to that other pioneering long hauler also operated by QF : 747SP : and also likely to be only ever produced in small numbers!
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:50 pm

Vh-ojt retired
CRJ200, Q400, E175, E195, MD88, MD90, A320, A332, A380, B717, B734, B738, B739, B752, B762, B763ER, B789, B744, B744ER
 
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Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:15 am

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I saw her sitting at the gate at BNE yesterday before setting off on her final journey when I landed from MEL. Had absolutely no idea it would be her last revenue service. Such a shame I didn't get a picture!
 
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Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:33 am

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Qantas - The Spirit of Sydney.........


Oh not this again, never-ending.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:00 am

3 Airlines has shown positive levels of interest regarding potential direct services to Busselton, though this does not guarantee anything it is a starting point

https://thewest.com.au/news/south-west/ ... b88968021z
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2018

Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:11 am

A real shame about REX ending Mildura-Sydney. Suggests any REX route without a local "arrangement" or subsidy is ripe for cuts. Could VA or QF step in?

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