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Flybe reveals updated livery

Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:50 pm

Just noticed on their Facebook page a photo of a tail covered over with the comment "What's hiding under here then?"

A new livery or a one off special?

Link to photo : https://www.facebook.com/Flybe/photos/a ... =3&theater
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:58 pm

Perhaps they've gone purple/white and ditched the red/yellow/blue mixture. Would match their their new "Close to you" branding.
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:09 pm

Another new scheme? Their current one isn't that old is it? I'm also pretty sure it hasn't been applied to the full fleet yet either.
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:19 pm

This pink/mauve shade also features in their refreshed branding and on the website. Looks like a new livery to me.

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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:28 pm

I'm reliably informed it's a new livery. Orange and red are being dropped, as well as the purple wings.
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:29 pm

Lipstick on a pig.
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:39 pm

They haven't even gotten the rest of the fleet painted into the new livery they launched well over 2 years ago, why are they now redoing another one.
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:18 pm

Just a coat of paint and all their problems will go away.

Really?.
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:20 pm

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Aerlingus330neo wrote:
They haven't even gotten the rest of the fleet painted into the new livery they launched well over 2 years ago, why are they now redoing another one.

Good question, why do Flybe do a lot of the things they do though? Their decision making is just bizarre and they show little aptitude for running an airline.

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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:33 pm

Maybe even a name change. You know what they are like!

On the other hand, it does proove they aren't completely run by accountants..
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:02 pm

This is an airline only a short distance from bankruptcy which seems unable to make a decent profit even when everything is in their favour (strong economy in the UK, fuel prices not too high, no major terrorism scares, etc). As soon as one major problem arises, they could be staring insolvency in the face. If you don't believe me - look at the share price over the last year and their market cap.

Right now there should be a major cost-cutting drive with strong focus on a lean-and-mean operation aiming to build up cash for a rainy day. Yet they waste scarce resources on another new livery. What planet is management on ?
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:11 pm

If it is just the tail and they have just over 70 planes I don't see a big issue.
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:27 pm

BE should concentrate on getting reliable on-time air services up & running before mucking about with more livery variations.
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:58 pm

Never had any problems with delays etc. on Flybe but think that is more luck than anything else. If on time performance etc. is as bad as some say then they should focus on that rather than livery
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:11 pm

For those saying they should save money and cut costs, that's fair enough but all aircraft need repainting at some stage or another. I think it tends to fall every eight years or so. They don't just get a single coat to last a lifetime.

Sure they could leave it longer but when it starts to look shabby, or starts to flake off, what perception would that create in the eyes of a customer? If they have an aircraft that is due for a new coat, then there's no additional expense involved by amending the livery, in fact quite the opposite if fewer colours/less time is involved in the job.
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:35 pm

I'd like to hope this is just a one-off, special livery such as retro theme. It can't be another new main livery ...surely
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:38 pm

TupolevTu154 wrote:
I'm reliably informed it's a new livery. Orange and red are being dropped, as well as the purple wings.


Looking at the new website and you could well be spot on. They've ditched the red and yellow totally, as well as the light blue
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:16 pm

Yeah, nah, yeah, nah, yeah look... Feels Like You're Being Executed. Since the acquisition of BA Connect in 2006, Flybe have believed they are a big airline. And they're not. There are too many individuals there that feel their own self importance is more of a priority than ensuring customers are happy. I've seen it first hand. This is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt at a PR exercise to improve their image by saying everything is "New and Improved", but the reality is that nothing has changed, they're still more of a cowboy outfit than Butch Cassidy's clothing, and our friend here outlined the reality perfectly:

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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:24 pm

JamesCousins wrote:
I'd like to hope this is just a one-off, special livery such as retro theme. It can't be another new main livery ...surely


Any retro livery wouldn't carry the name Flybe though. There was a small 12-18 month period where they had a British European livery which was a very basic modification of the Jersey European livery. The retro JEA livery is probably the only one that looks truly retro but I can't see them plastering that on a Q400 any time soon.
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:29 am

From the photos it appears to be a white forward fuselage, wings and engines, a lilac section aft the wings and a purple tail with white lettering.
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:39 am

Any chance for new product?
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:05 am

I've just flown into Manchester this morning, and I saw what looked like a Q400 with a black tailfin parked at T3. We parked on the other side of the terminal so I didn't get a close look (I was flying with Ryanair in from Girona). I did wonder what it was all about, as I didn't think any airline with a black fin would be flying Q400s in to Manchester!
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:16 am

A fresh lick of paint is not going to solve their problems, just ask the residents of the Channel Islands.!!!. Jack Walker would be turning in his grave if he saw what had become of them, especially recently, following their link up with Blue Islands. fare increases and punctuality are the biggest issues we have. thank god we, in Jersey at least, have U2 to help us get off the "Rock". Flymaybe are an embarrassment now.!!!
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:21 am

fjhc wrote:
I've just flown into Manchester this morning, and I saw what looked like a Q400 with a black tailfin parked at T3. We parked on the other side of the terminal so I didn't get a close look (I was flying with Ryanair in from Girona). I did wonder what it was all about, as I didn't think any airline with a black fin would be flying Q400s in to Manchester!


That will be G-ECOI which is still in partial Air Brussels livery.
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:43 am

fjhc wrote:
I've just flown into Manchester this morning, and I saw what looked like a Q400 with a black tailfin parked at T3. We parked on the other side of the terminal so I didn't get a close look (I was flying with Ryanair in from Girona). I did wonder what it was all about, as I didn't think any airline with a black fin would be flying Q400s in to Manchester!


Sorry, that should be Brussels Airlines, not Air Brussels.!! :D
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:19 am

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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:24 am

Hmmm...

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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:32 am

I really like this new livery! More sharp and will certainly up its brand perception. Now, a new seating product would give the airline a new start in generating revenue and changing its customer perception of the airline.
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:38 am

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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:39 am

I actually think the red and yellow would work on the tail but nice livery hopefully they focus on getting the ship right.
 
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:40 am

Although I liked the former colours I have to admit that I much prefer this more simplified version, it looks far more sharp in my opinion and I wasn't expecting to say that but yes it looks good and far better than was previous.
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:02 pm

It reminds me a lot of the old Air Southwest livery on the Q300. I liked the purple livery and I liked the blue and white one before...not sure about this though.
 
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:09 pm

It's JECP, which had the landing mishap last year. Went to Malta for paint - which it kind of needed!

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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:38 pm

I quite like it - looks sharp and clean
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:43 pm

Not too bad, certainly seen worse, even if it's a little bland towards the front and a touch too 'tail heavy'. Tail heavy liveries are quite common now, but it is at least clean and professional for an LCC.
 
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:51 pm

Sharp, can't imagine the previous livery with all that purple was cheap to apply and maintain.
 
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:08 pm

Good god, how many design consultants did they pay to come up with that bland abomination?
 
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Re: Flybe New Livery??

Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:13 pm

LX138 wrote:
Maybe even a name change. You know what they are like!

On the other hand, it does proove they aren't completely run by accountants..


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The finance team has controls and the accountants report on the success or otherwise of targets, BUT they don’t set strategy or decide where money is spent or indeed how much money is in the pot. That’s a management or board decision, accountants make sure that those decisions are carried out fairly and within the rules.
 
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:15 pm

It’s basically the Eastern livery, which as a franchisee seems to explain why only one carried flybe colours....
 
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:15 pm

A better photo...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/debonomel ... ed-public/

My only criticism is the tiny 'Flybe' titles by the nose - would have looked better if they'd occupied a much bigger space.
 
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:26 pm

Isn’t that WizzAir’s livery?
 
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:47 pm

I like it!
 
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:53 pm

I wonder if the small titles are to allow space for a decal of some descripton to be applied to the fuselage? Their current tag line is “close to you”, so maybe regional cities/places of interest/natural beauty from around the U.K.? Like Frontier have wildlife tails.
 
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:57 pm

JakTrax wrote:
My only criticism is the tiny 'Flybe' titles by the nose - would have looked better if they'd occupied a much bigger space.


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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:05 pm

Looks great!
 
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:23 pm

CarbonFibre wrote:
JakTrax wrote:
My only criticism is the tiny 'Flybe' titles by the nose - would have looked better if they'd occupied a much bigger space.[/quote

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That's a significant improvement on the final product. The small titles make the livery look unfinished. I'm afraid that the rest of it isn't much good either; the light purple swoosh stops very abruptly as soon as it reaches the tail, while the dark purple swoosh is a very awkward shape. The scheme certainly doesn't flow and it doesn't look complete. Regardless, this entire exercise (coming so soon after the introduction of the last livery) implies a deep-rooted lack of identity and direction at the company - that's my main takeaway from this.
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:32 pm

Let me vomit real quick
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:39 pm

It is crisp and clean, but maybe the dots could have been in bright colors. It would pop it a bit without being too garish. And I agree with larger titles in the front. It certainly isn't the worst refresh in airline history.
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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:44 pm

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Re: Flybe reveals updated livery

Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:46 pm

KLDC10 wrote:
CarbonFibre wrote:
JakTrax wrote:
My only criticism is the tiny 'Flybe' titles by the nose - would have looked better if they'd occupied a much bigger space.[/quote

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That's a significant improvement on the final product. The small titles make the livery look unfinished. I'm afraid that the rest of it isn't much good either; the light purple swoosh stops very abruptly as soon as it reaches the tail, while the dark purple swoosh is a very awkward shape. The scheme certainly doesn't flow and it doesn't look complete. Regardless, this entire exercise (coming so soon after the introduction of the last livery) implies a deep-rooted lack of identity and direction at the company - that's my main takeaway from this.

It’s not really showing a deep-rooted lack of identity, as the branding is similar to before. It is showing that the old livery was way too expensive for Flybe.

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