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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:02 am

QXAS wrote:
Just as we needed a new term for the A380, big twin doesn’t seem to cut it for this jet. Everything about it is huge. Well, except the fuel burn. When will the official rollout and first flight be? And where is the rollout aircraft in the production process? Can’t wait to see the videos of those wings getting flexed to the limit.

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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:57 am

blooc350 wrote:
What a beauty this will be in the SQ colors!

Image


Love it!

Are there any visible diffrences from classic 777 when flying?
Maybe you can recognize the 777-9 due to length and 4 exits but I expect the -8 to be similar enough to a -200.
 
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:09 am

The folding wingtips are actually quite large, that photo with the wingtips folded is a bit deceiving. This will be a beast up close, no doubt. A single deck, twin-engine jumbo. I'm guessing the flap system will be similar to the current triple? (double-slotted inboards, single slotted outboards)
 
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:17 am

TBH, that amazing cutting-edge wing and the same old fuselage (we can't even see the bigger windows on this frame) look kind of funny together. The wing is stunning, though. :drool:
 
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:27 am

vahancrazy wrote:
Are there any visible diffrences from classic 777 when flying?
Maybe you can recognize the 777-9 due to length and 4 exits but I expect the -8 to be similar enough to a -200.

The raked wingtips, for one, is the most discernible.
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Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:54 am

vahancrazy wrote:
Maybe you can recognize the 777-9 due to length and 4 exits but I expect the -8 to be similar enough to a -200.


The wing will look totally different.

The -8 is closer in length to a -300 than a -200 (although a bit shorter).
 
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:51 am

Such a beauty. It surely will be a very successful plane.
 
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Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:31 am

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WIederling wrote:
Varsity1 wrote:
Wow, Wings look huge!


A whiff of Brabazon is in the air :-)


I've only noticed a Brabazon scent near airliners with 80m wingspans.


I've been told that while getting older sense of smell (beyond other things) gets less acute.
( and usually you don't notice "house smell" either :-)
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:51 am

seabosdca wrote:
vahancrazy wrote:
Maybe you can recognize the 777-9 due to length and 4 exits but I expect the -8 to be similar enough to a -200.


The wing will look totally different.

The -8 is closer in length to a -300 than a -200 (although a bit shorter).


And

neutrino wrote:
vahancrazy wrote:
Maybe you can recognize the 777-9 due to length and 4 exits but I expect the -8 to be similar enough to a -200.

The raked wingtips, for one, is the most discernible.





Thanks! I will pay more attention to that!
 
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:45 am

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The folding wingtip is actually a relatively small part of the wing. People worrying about problems with it likely didn’t realize how only a tiny part of the wing folds.


It's actually THE tip device (i.e. raked wingtip) that folds, it's not a part of the wing itself. It's not like in naval aviation where a significant part of the wing itself folds.

There are many good reasons why Boeing went for such a modest folding mechanism:


1- Wings tips won't house controls, so that would simplify the design, reliability, and complexity of the folding mechanism.
2- You can't carry fuel in the folding part of the wing. Increasing the size of the folding side just means less fuel for your trip. In commercial aviation, this is a no-no.
3- Since it only folds 3.5m on each side, it would be smaller and lighter. If it was too heavy and complex , like the original folding mechanism on the 777 that folds more than 7m on each side, it would just negate the whole purpose of extending the span.
4- Of course, maintenance costs would also be less since it's smaller and simpler.
5- And there is the safety aspect to it, a 777 won't lose lift if one wingtip device is gone, unlike in the case if half the wing would fold for example. Sure, it will be designed in a way that this would almost never happen, but then it would be heavy, complex, and expensive.


RJMAZ wrote:
Or the A321 gets rewinged with folding tips in 10 years time.


Would it make sense for the A320/737 families to have folding wingtips as much as it does for the 777X? I don't know.

I mean, the blended wingtip for the A320 is only 2.5m long. In this case, each wingtip addes 1.125m to the effective span (2.5*0.45). If they switch to folding raked wingtip design, each wingtip would add 2.125m to the effective span (2.5*0.85). That's 1m gain in effective span on each side, does that justify the increased weight, cost, and complexity the folding mechanism adds? I don't know. But I guess the gains won't be as much as we will see in the 777X, which is a long-haul beast that has larger wingtip devices.


I could be wrong.
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:52 am

blooc350 wrote:
What a beauty this will be in the SQ colors!

Image



Rear 3/4 is the best angle for a long 777. Indeed good looking here in this rendering, overall it wont quite match the beauty and grandness of a 747-8.
 
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:15 pm

vahancrazy wrote:
seabosdca wrote:
vahancrazy wrote:
Maybe you can recognize the 777-9 due to length and 4 exits but I expect the -8 to be similar enough to a -200.


The wing will look totally different.

The -8 is closer in length to a -300 than a -200 (although a bit shorter).


And

neutrino wrote:
vahancrazy wrote:
Maybe you can recognize the 777-9 due to length and 4 exits but I expect the -8 to be similar enough to a -200.

The raked wingtips, for one, is the most discernible.





Thanks! I will pay more attention to that!


vahancrazy, let's not forget the shape of the tail which is practically the same as the 787 too.


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First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:12 pm

The first fully assembled 777X jetliner has rolled off the Boeing production line at the manufacturer's Everett factory in Washington state:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trav ... liner.html

Wow, can't wait to see this out of the hanger and flying! Look at those winglets!
 
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Re: First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:17 pm

That airplane will never fly. It is only for static testing. There will be no tail on this plane or APU or many other things. The folding wing tips don't have motors to move them up and down. They will basically try to destroy this frame.
 
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Re: First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:23 pm

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That airplane will never fly. It is only for static testing. There will be no tail on this plane or APU or many other things. The folding wing tips don't have motors to move them up and down. They will basically try to destroy this frame.


Understood. But the one's that will be flying will look similar with same size wings and wing tips, no?
 
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Re: First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:24 pm

clrd4t8koff wrote:
The first fully assembled 777X jetliner has rolled off the Boeing production line at the manufacturer's Everett factory in Washington state:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/trav ... liner.html

Wow, can't wait to see this out of the hanger and flying! Look at those winglets!

Fully assembled... except for the tail and engines. Do they only hire people who are genetically unable to tell the truth? Would veritaphobic be the proper word?
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Re: First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:50 pm

Can't wait to see the first flight test frame roll out with a tail and those new monster engines.

Perhaps that bird will break cover by Christmas break ?
 
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Re: First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:51 pm

Yeah this is just the static frame that rolled out a week ago.
 
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Re: First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:54 pm

Looking forward to seeing one with the new vertical stabilizer, the design changes noted in the renders should really set the 777X apart from current models.
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Re: First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:54 pm

damm guys... tad harsh this.

thanks for the pictute.... wingtips look big!!
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Re: First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:14 pm

FlyRow wrote:
damm guys... tad harsh this.

thanks for the pictute.... wingtips look big!!


Agreed. And the wingtips do look larger than I expected.
 
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Re: First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:20 pm

Is nobody going to point out that the plane is so large they have to build it at a 45 degree angle to the building?
 
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:21 pm

The A350 ULR's range is estimated to reach 17,960 Km, so it will come down strictly to economics as the 777X won't surpass it.
 
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Re: First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:26 pm

Is anyone else going to point out it doesn't have winglets?! (that go up anyway) It has the raked winglets, but those are folding wingtips. It wont fly that way in normal flight
 
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:34 pm

Is anyone else going to point out it doesn't have winglets?! (that go up anyway) It has the raked winglets, but those are folding wingtips. It wont fly that way in normal flight
 
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Re: First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:35 pm

Wow! It would be great to see a length comparison with the 77X, 77W, A346 and A35K!
 
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Re: First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:41 pm

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Is nobody going to point out that the plane is so large they have to build it at a 45 degree angle to the building?


They did that with the 747 as well.
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:23 pm

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Is nobody going to point out that the plane is so large they have to build it at a 45 degree angle to the building?


They don’t, there is a video and pictures on Boeing’s twitter showing the conventional forward assembly line. I believe it was turned for the photo.
 
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:11 pm

Wow! That is one giant aircraft! But looks like the proportions are perfect. Will the vertical stabilizer be taller than previous 777s?
As much as I’d love to see UA flying these to ULH huge destinations (Eg; HK etc) will it still be too much airplane?
If one is seated in row 278F, I wonder how long it will take to deplane for those in the very back?
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:22 pm

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Wow! That is one giant aircraft! But looks like the proportions are perfect. Will the vertical stabilizer be taller than previous 777s?
As much as I’d love to see UA flying these to ULH huge destinations (Eg; HK etc) will it still be too much airplane?
If one is seated in row 278F, I wonder how long it will take to deplane for those in the very back?
An amazing design the 777 is. Such tremendous success from its launch day back in the mid 1990’s, BRAVO BOEING!
It would be great to see a 707 next to it!

Err. Smaller than an A380 which often uses 2 jetways. This is but a little more capacity than the 777-300ERvwith much better efficiency.

This is for higher demand routes. In my opinion half the 777-300ER market will go to fragmentation (more destinations or more flight times) on the A350 or 787.

But, in my opinion, half will upgauge. There are certain times more desired to fly where the lowest cost per passenger is what matters. e.g., passengers pay a premium to sleep on long flights. So SYD-LAX, or HKG-LHR will always have multiple flights leaving within a few hours.

278*10=2,780. A wee bit beyond the certification limit. ;)

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Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:49 pm

VC10ER, I do not know, but I would presume there is no need, at least in the -9X, to have a larger vertical stabiliser as, being longer, the arm leverage is greater and the engines do not have greater thrust as I understand it.
 
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:51 pm

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I'm guessing the flap system will be similar to the current triple? (double-slotted inboards, single slotted outboards)

I remember hearing a couple years ago the 777X will feature triple-slotted flaps. You can see in the renderings there are 5 flap fairings on each wing, as opposed to the 3 on the current 777. Not sure the validity of the information I heard a while back, though.
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Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:05 pm

jayunited wrote:
Even without paint and engines this aircraft looks great.
Hopefully at some point in the distant future UA will order this aircraft.

https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/q_aut ... boeing.jpg

I saw this bird under construction while touring the Boeing Everett plant back in August. You truly appreciate the massive size of it when you are up close. I would have taken dozens of photographs, but you are allowed no recording devices of any type while on the tour.
 
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:12 am

That thing is massive.
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:16 am

BWIAirport wrote:
747superliner wrote:
I'm guessing the flap system will be similar to the current triple? (double-slotted inboards, single slotted outboards)

I remember hearing a couple years ago the 777X will feature triple-slotted flaps. You can see in the renderings there are 5 flap fairings on each wing, as opposed to the 3 on the current 777. Not sure the validity of the information I heard a while back, though.


747superliner is correct, no triple slotted flaps for the 777X.

The advent of FAR Part 36 has made the triple slot flap obsolete, both from airframe noise and thrust required (engine noise) standpoints.
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:23 am

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Fully assembled... except for the tail and engines. Do they only hire people who are genetically unable to tell the truth? Would veritaphobic be the proper word?


Pretty harsh words. Why be so pedantic?

While it's not a complete airplane capable of flight, the airframe is complete for its intended function i.e. structural testing.
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:34 am

Why doesn't the center fuselage section have the green coating?

Also, why doesn't the tailplane need to be static tested?
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:44 am

Arion640 wrote:
Going to stir the pot here and say,

Will this thing fit at Terminal 7 @ JFK?


It's designed to fit into the same Code E gates as the existing B777. In fact the whole point of the folding wingtips is to stop it from falling into the Code F gate size.

So to oversimplify a little bit, if an airport can support the existing B777 then it will be able to supper the B777X.
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:19 am

I've noticed that several amateur blogs and websites are reporting the static frame depicted above to be line number 1567 / WH001. This is completely false! The static test frame is line number 9995 and the fatigue test frame to follow will be line number 9996. Neither airframe have tab/block numbers, nor serial numbers.
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:58 am

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Also, why doesn't the tailplane need to be static tested?


Maybe because whole section 48 did not change.

Why spend millions of dollars to certify the tail when you can do it by similarity.

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Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:40 pm

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Arion640 wrote:
Going to stir the pot here and say,

Will this thing fit at Terminal 7 @ JFK?


It's designed to fit into the same Code E gates as the existing B777. In fact the whole point of the folding wingtips is to stop it from falling into the Code F gate size.

So to oversimplify a little bit, if an airport can support the existing B777 then it will be able to supper the B777X.


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Re: First fully assembled 777X photos are out

Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:44 pm

OldAeroGuy wrote:
BREECH wrote:
Fully assembled... except for the tail and engines. Do they only hire people who are genetically unable to tell the truth? Would veritaphobic be the proper word?


OldAeroGuy wrote:
Pretty harsh words. Why be so pedantic?

Ask me that when you see a tail-less airplane arrive at your gate!

OldAeroGuy wrote:
While it's not a complete airplane capable of flight, the airframe is complete for its intended function i.e. structural testing.

To this brilliant mind "fully-assembled" means "all parts attached", not "uhm... we need to polish some logistics". And this little detail is important in this particular conversation for two reasons. One, the Daily Mail is a fascist outlet that has NEVER published one word of truth. And two, when Boeing rolled out 787 on 7/8/7 it was more of a Spruce Goose than the actual Spruce Goose. Only that one could actually fly. So how do we know this is not another exercise in plywood painting?

On a side note, shouldn't structural testing include the rudder?
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:58 pm

BREECH wrote:
To this brilliant mind "fully-assembled" means "all parts attached", not "uhm... we need to polish some logistics". And this little detail is important in this particular conversation for two reasons. One, the Daily Mail is a fascist outlet that has NEVER published one word of truth. And two, when Boeing rolled out 787 on 7/8/7 it was more of a Spruce Goose than the actual Spruce Goose. Only that one could actually fly. So how do we know this is not another exercise in plywood painting?


Good g*d, this is worse than CaptainX's ramblings.

This is a static test frame. The static test frame is for testing certain aspects of the structure (pressurization and wing loading). It will never fly and it is not intended to fly. It would be a pointless waste of time and money to include parts on the static test frame that will not affect, or be affected by, the outcome of the specific tests run on it.

The 787 Potemkin rollout was of flight test frame #1. There will be a rollout of 777X test frame #1 later this year. We can judge at that point whether the 777X program is in a hole like the 787 program (hint: it's not).

On a side note, shouldn't structural testing include the rudder?


The vertical stab and rudder are tested more effectively through flight test.
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:20 pm

Newbiepilot wrote:
RJMAZ wrote:
I was expecting the folding wing tips to look bigger. They nearly look like a winglet.

It looks so small and simple I dont see why it hasnt been done earlier. It would not surprise me if the 797 gets folding tips to squeeze into gates that cn fit an A321. Or the A321 gets rewinged with folding tips in 10 years time.


The folding wingtip is actually a relatively small part of the wing. People worrying about problems with it likely didn’t realize how only a tiny part of the wing folds.


Ya, planes can land with much larger chunks of their wing missing:

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/slightly sarcastic and I know that the F-15 has alot of thrust to make up for that wing surface, but still!
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:50 pm

BREECH wrote:
OldAeroGuy wrote:
BREECH wrote:
Fully assembled... except for the tail and engines. Do they only hire people who are genetically unable to tell the truth? Would veritaphobic be the proper word?


OldAeroGuy wrote:
Pretty harsh words. Why be so pedantic?

Ask me that when you see a tail-less airplane arrive at your gate!

OldAeroGuy wrote:
While it's not a complete airplane capable of flight, the airframe is complete for its intended function i.e. structural testing.

To this brilliant mind "fully-assembled" means "all parts attached", not "uhm... we need to polish some logistics". And this little detail is important in this particular conversation for two reasons. One, the Daily Mail is a fascist outlet that has NEVER published one word of truth. And two, when Boeing rolled out 787 on 7/8/7 it was more of a Spruce Goose than the actual Spruce Goose. Only that one could actually fly. So how do we know this is not another exercise in plywood painting?

On a side note, shouldn't structural testing include the rudder?


Final assembly is a specific statement of work (and actually one that will evolve as the production line is matured), and this aircraft has completed it's final assembly.

You will find out how much plywood there is if you continue to follow the program to see if it is ultimately moved over to the static test facility, and after instrumentation and installation of the airframe into the test fixture (which itself is a huge task), they begin testing. This program has progressed in a very different manner, with a far more sane schedule than the 787 had at the same point in its development. I don't see much reason to be suspicious, but I'm content to wait and find out if there are any big schedule slides.

It seems the horizontal and vertical tails will be tested separately. You can see a big red tube in some of the photos where the horizontal tail connects that is presumably there for the sake of applying simulated tailplane loads to the fuselage.
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:12 pm

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Ziyulu wrote:
I'm guessing it will be 3-4-3 seating at 18" seat width due to the wider cabin?


It is presented as 19,7" with armrests, 17,2" between armrests.


The 779 has a slightly narrower cabin than the 744.
 
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Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:57 pm

BREECH wrote:
OldAeroGuy wrote:
BREECH wrote:
Fully assembled... except for the tail and engines. Do they only hire people who are genetically unable to tell the truth? Would veritaphobic be the proper word?


OldAeroGuy wrote:
Pretty harsh words. Why be so pedantic?

Ask me that when you see a tail-less airplane arrive at your gate!

OldAeroGuy wrote:
While it's not a complete airplane capable of flight, the airframe is complete for its intended function i.e. structural testing.

To this brilliant mind "fully-assembled" means "all parts attached", not "uhm... we need to polish some logistics". And this little detail is important in this particular conversation for two reasons. One, the Daily Mail is a fascist outlet that has NEVER published one word of truth. And two, when Boeing rolled out 787 on 7/8/7 it was more of a Spruce Goose than the actual Spruce Goose. Only that one could actually fly. So how do we know this is not another exercise in plywood painting?

On a side note, shouldn't structural testing include the rudder?


Here's a link to a picture of the A380 in its static test rig. Note the lack of engines, horizontal tail and vertical tail.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/A3UPt.jpg

Both the A380 and the 777-9 were complete for structural test.

Also don't know why you're worried about what the Daily Mail says since you don't believe them in any case.
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:22 am

MON wrote:
VC10ER, I do not know, but I would presume there is no need, at least in the -9X, to have a larger vertical stabiliser as, being longer, the arm leverage is greater and the engines do not have greater thrust as I understand it.


The ACAP shows a larger VSTAB for 779 over 77W (google for it).
While it's true that the lever arm is longer, there are also three countervailing factors:
(1) Speed at V1, which must be greater than or equal to Vmcg (minimum control speed on the ground), is lower on the 779. Thus the amount of lift per m2 of tail area is lower, thus we need more tail area.
(2) Even though maximum SLS thrust is lower on 779, the lower takeoff speeds mean less thrust lapse and therefore probably nearly-equal effective thrust at the critical V-speeds (V1 and Vmcg here).
(3) The engines have further displacement from the centerline, meaning a larger rotational moment at OEI. This is a tradeoff between wing weight (placing engines further out relieves bending moment) and Vstab weight/drag.

In addition, the longer fuselage and wing mean more sideways force created in the event of crosswind, which would require greater tail volume to counteract it if crosswind performance is to be maintained. Whether crosswind performance or takeoff OEI/Vmcg issues are the operating design constraint I don't know (does anyone have insight?).
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:27 am

When in commercial use, at what point will the wing extensions be placed in the downward position? At what point with they be return to “the upright and locked position”?
 
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Re: Boeing Rolls out Static Test 777-9X

Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:31 am

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He must be measuring the A35J using "AOL inches" LOL


That seems so 1990’s. Isn’t the current unit of measure Tinder or Snapchat inches now?

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