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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:46 pm

Great paint job. Hope it stays 5-abreast... there was discussion that a tight 6-abreast was possible... but this is Delta we’re talking about!

N101DU, I like it. Perhaps could’ve been N101DB or DC for Bombardier or C Series as a nod to its previous (marketing) designation prior to takeover, but DU seems nicer. 101DB sounds (no pun intended) like a registration you’d give an MD88!
 
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Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:46 pm

keesje wrote:

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The two front/ center windshield panels extend far down. Given the position of the pilot and the instrument panel the length does not appear useful and necessary. Am I missing something or was this done for design aesthetics?
 
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Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:48 pm

It's a handsome plane.
 
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Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:57 pm

CarlosSi wrote:
Great paint job. Hope it stays 5-abreast... there was discussion that a tight 6-abreast was possible...


That wasn't a discussion between intelligent people. No U.S. legacy carrier is going to try 15.5" wide coach seats.
 
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:15 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
CarlosSi wrote:
Great paint job. Hope it stays 5-abreast... there was discussion that a tight 6-abreast was possible...


That wasn't a discussion between intelligent people. No U.S. legacy carrier is going to try 15.5" wide coach seats.


That I started :roll: .

I re read the thread; 16.5 inches with reduced armwrest width to 1.5 inches. Really thin...
 
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:24 pm

CarlosSi wrote:
Great paint job. Hope it stays 5-abreast... there was discussion that a tight 6-abreast was possible... but this is Delta we’re talking about!

N101DU, I like it. Perhaps could’ve been N101DB or DC for Bombardier or C Series as a nod to its previous (marketing) designation prior to takeover, but DU seems nicer. 101DB sounds (no pun intended) like a registration you’d give an MD88!


The plane isn't certified for 6 abreast
 
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Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:32 pm

That's really exciting. Hope I can get a chance to hop on it sometime soon.
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:51 pm

questions wrote:
keesje wrote:

Image



The two front/ center windshield panels extend far down. Given the position of the pilot and the instrument panel the length does not appear useful and necessary. Am I missing something or was this done for design aesthetics?


Not aesthetic. There's an FAA Advisory Circular on the subject:
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/med ... _773-1.pdf

If you notice the profile of the 737 & A320 have a sharper angle at the base of the windshield because the panes of glass are flat, which comes with an aerodynamic penalty. To avoid this pentlaty the A220 windshield is conformal to the aerodynamci lines of the aircraft. To get the same forward field of view, the windows on the A220 have to be larger; the Pilot Compartment View angles as shown on the chart on page three of the AC are intersected with the external profile of the aircraft to get an outline for the windows.
 
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:02 pm

CarlosSi wrote:
Great paint job. Hope it stays 5-abreast... there was discussion that a tight 6-abreast was possible... but this is Delta we’re talking about!

N101DU, I like it. Perhaps could’ve been N101DB or DC for Bombardier or C Series as a nod to its previous (marketing) designation prior to takeover, but DU seems nicer. 101DB sounds (no pun intended) like a registration you’d give an MD88!

Have no fear. I am sure that only a ULCC could possibly be interested 6-abreast, with seats and aisles so narrow (if even legally possible). I can't imagine such a ULCC being interested in anything but a single class layout. An A220-100, in a single-class, high-density, 5-abreast layout, is already at maximum occupancy. The FAA certifies it to carry 133 occupants, including one pilot, one copilot, one observer, and three cabin crew. Transport Canada allows up to 125 passengers, up to 5 flight attendants, plus flight deck crew.
 
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:13 pm

burnsie28 wrote:
Ziyulu wrote:
Why is Delta painted on the floor of the shop? Does this factory only paint planes for Delta?


It's likely just a decal.


Decal was probably Photoshopped :roll: Or maybe that portion of the floor has a dynamic screen so they can change it up like the electronic billboards (or whatever they are) that are visible behind baseball homeplates for advertising purposes :duck:
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:53 pm

Man does this plane look good! Very lovely! Can't wait for it to be in the air soon!!
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:57 pm

This aircraft actually rolled out of the paint shop on August 13...with winglets and all. They did some rework after the fact.

Here's the pic from Aug 13:
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Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:03 am

axiom wrote:
I'm really excited to see this bird join the DL family.

Has anyone seen if there is a A220 logo applied to customer aircraft?


Yes

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ra-450551/
 
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:28 am

YouGeeElWhy wrote:
I know LAX/NYC will be first, but how long till she shows up at SEA? Seems like the perfect machine for DL's ops there.

Oh, and she is a beauty.


Airliners don’t have bases, pilots have domiciles, which where trips in the category begin. Nothing says SEA, MIA, MSP, TUS, or any other city Delta serves won’t see A220s. It’s not like the Air Force or popular belief where planes are based at an airport.

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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:42 am

0newair0 wrote:
This aircraft actually rolled out of the paint shop on August 13...with winglets and all. They did some rework after the fact.

Here's the pic from Aug 13:
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Look familiar? Look at the clouds, pilot in the right seat, etc. It's a photoshopped picture.

Image
 
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:58 am

Cactusjuba wrote:
0newair0 wrote:
This aircraft actually rolled out of the paint shop on August 13...with winglets and all. They did some rework after the fact.

Here's the pic from Aug 13:
Image


Look familiar? Look at the clouds, pilot in the right seat, etc. It's a photoshopped picture.

Image

Nice catch. It still looks good. :)

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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:07 am

lightsaber wrote:
Cactusjuba wrote:
0newair0 wrote:
This aircraft actually rolled out of the paint shop on August 13...with winglets and all. They did some rework after the fact.

Here's the pic from Aug 13:
Image


Look familiar? Look at the clouds, pilot in the right seat, etc. It's a photoshopped picture.

Image

Nice catch. It still looks good. :)

Lightsaber


With the real deal now out for our viewing pleasure, there's no need for the cheap knockoff. :dopey:
 
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:27 am

Cactusjuba wrote:
0newair0 wrote:
This aircraft actually rolled out of the paint shop on August 13...with winglets and all. They did some rework after the fact.

Here's the pic from Aug 13:
Image


Look familiar? Look at the clouds, pilot in the right seat, etc. It's a photoshopped picture.

Image


Wow. You're absolutely right. That's a pretty great photoshop job.
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:32 am

Great looking aircraft. Hope it visits LAS from LAX so I get to go for a ride sometime.
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:45 am

With 75 firm and 50 option, its gonna go to a lot of airports....in time.

I think I saw somewhere that Delta wants 2/month. Thats a tall order given that Bombardier/Airbus is only delivering 3/month to the whole world. But, in fairness, they are still ramping up.

Not a snowballs chance in......that this airplane ever goes 6 abreast.

I expect a Delta top off order for at least another 100 300s within the next 12 months, and perhaps an A220-500 launch order by 2020. Just mho and speculation on my part.

It will be interesting to see if PW keeps up with the production ramp up.

What a fantastic looking airplane.
 
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Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:27 am

man is that a beautiful plane...I cant wait!! B6 and DL start flying these all over, they are pure stunners
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:52 am

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The first Airbus A220-100 (former Bombardier CSeries CS100) for Delta Air Lines has rolled out of the paint shop at the Bombardier assembly line in Mirabel, Canada.

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The manufacturer claims that the plane will now move to the final assembly stage before taking off on its first test flight during this coming fall.

Estimated entry into service date for this plane is early 2019. The Atlanta-based carrier will become the first US carrier to take delivery of the Airbus A220. The first batch of A220s will be based in New York (JFK) and Los Angeles (LAX).

More photos: https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/first-d ... paintshop/


Hmmm looks good! Although the A220 looks great in pretty much all liveries so DL is nothing special, but anyway very nice :-)
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Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:43 am

Cactusjuba wrote:
0newair0 wrote:
This aircraft actually rolled out of the paint shop on August 13...with winglets and all. They did some rework after the fact.

Here's the pic from Aug 13:
Image


Look familiar? Look at the clouds, pilot in the right seat, etc. It's a photoshopped picture.

Image


What's the thing under the tail that looks like a landing gear door? Is it somehow related to the APU, and in that case, does it have to be open if the APU is started mid air for some reason?
 
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:46 am

Is it me or does the a220 etc look like mini-Dreamliners???
 
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Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:53 am

luv2cattlecall wrote:
What's the thing under the tail that looks like a landing gear door? Is it somehow related to the APU, and in that case, does it have to be open if the APU is started mid air for some reason?


Looks like a service door for the APU or area aft of the rear bulkhead. It isn't supposed to be open in flight.
 
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Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:32 pm

The airplane - especially in the PR pics on IG - looks just fantastic. I think the shape of the nose, cockpit windshield, and very solid looking nose landing gear are the coolest parts of the airplane, along of course with the tough looking GTFs. I am going to have to find my way to New York to take a ride on LGA-DFW or whatever the first route is. The honey badger MD-88 don't give a sh*t and I am so sad to see it go, but this is a replacement I can get excited about.

As a vintage aircraft fan, I rarely get this excited about a new aircraft. But I think the whole David v. Goliath thing with a clean sheet design from a smaller, 3rd manufacturer against Boeing and Airbus' derivative designs is such a compelling story. I am disappointed that Airbus had to take the program over - just because I think a 3rd competitive manufacturer would push the industry to innovate. But here is to hoping that the -500 still materializes.
 
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:37 pm

Can't wait to see one in United livery.
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:27 pm

flightsimer wrote:
Slight correction, but only the marketing name has changed. It's still the same Bombardier model number on the type certificate and pilot type rating.
Same change as the 717, which is just the marketing name.


Actually, the change of name from MD-95 to 717-200 was made on the type certificate too. Granted it's the same certificate (A6WE) right back to the DC-9, but "717-200" is the model's legal identity.
 
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:42 pm

wrongwayup wrote:
axiom wrote:
I'm really excited to see this bird join the DL family.

Has anyone seen if there is a A220 logo applied to customer aircraft?


Yes

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ra-450551/


Thanks! I'm still getting used to the name change. Looks great.
 
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:39 pm

CarlosSi wrote:
Great paint job. Hope it stays 5-abreast... there was discussion that a tight 6-abreast was possible... but this is Delta we’re talking about!

N101DU, I like it. Perhaps could’ve been N101DB or DC for Bombardier or C Series as a nod to its previous (marketing) designation prior to takeover, but DU seems nicer. 101DB sounds (no pun intended) like a registration you’d give an MD88!


And DB does instantly bring to mind the hijacker who jumped out of a 727...
 
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Re: First Delta Airbus A220-100 Rolls Out Of Paints Shop

Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:40 pm

wrongwayup wrote:
questions wrote:
keesje wrote:

Image



The two front/ center windshield panels extend far down. Given the position of the pilot and the instrument panel the length does not appear useful and necessary. Am I missing something or was this done for design aesthetics?


Not aesthetic. There's an FAA Advisory Circular on the subject:
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/med ... _773-1.pdf

If you notice the profile of the 737 & A320 have a sharper angle at the base of the windshield because the panes of glass are flat, which comes with an aerodynamic penalty. To avoid this pentlaty the A220 windshield is conformal to the aerodynamci lines of the aircraft. To get the same forward field of view, the windows on the A220 have to be larger; the Pilot Compartment View angles as shown on the chart on page three of the AC are intersected with the external profile of the aircraft to get an outline for the windows.


Excellent! Thanks for sharing and explaining. :)

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