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CRJ7/900 as a corporate jet

Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:24 am

Random question of the day..

Are there any converted CRJ's flying around out there as a private/corp jet? If so, is it possible to put aux fuel tanks in them to boost the range?
 
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Re: CRJ7/900 as a corporate jet

Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:26 am

Doesn't Dow Chenicals have a CR7? Probably more of a shuttle than a business jet.
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Re: CRJ7/900 as a corporate jet

Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:23 am

There is a CRJ700, reg VP-BCL, that is operated as a corporate jet for Consolidated Contractors Company of Kuwait.



Another VIP version of the CRJ700 is operated for Joe Gibbs Racing, N520JG



Also, was able to find a third CRJ700, registered C-FJXB and operated by Regional One Airlines as a business charter aircraft.
 
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Re: CRJ7/900 as a corporate jet

Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:27 am

Isn’t that just a challenger?
 
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Re: CRJ7/900 as a corporate jet

Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:40 am

Joe Gibbs has N519JG as well. Other CRJ-700 biz -jets :
N804X & N805X Northrop Grumman
YV1111 Petroleros
B-4060, 4061, 4062, 4063, 4064 Chinese Govt.
 
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Re: CRJ7/900 as a corporate jet

Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:03 pm

32andBelow wrote:
Isn’t that just a challenger?

I think that the CR7 is about 40 feet longer than the Challenger? And it has a different wing?
 
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Re: CRJ7/900 as a corporate jet

Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:19 pm

redzeppelin wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
Isn’t that just a challenger?

I think that the CR7 is about 40 feet longer than the Challenger? And it has a different wing?


Bombardier sells brand new CRJ7/9 configured as corporate shuttles. I beleive they are branded Challenger 870 and 890 but has nothing to do with a Challenger and everything to do with a CRJ.
 
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Re: CRJ7/900 as a corporate jet

Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:27 pm

Quite a few are set up as shuttles, esp in the extraction industries where they are used to shuttle mine workers eliminating towns at the mines. As shuttles, the basic plane has all the range needed. A Global 7500 has similar cabin size.

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Re: CRJ7/900 as a corporate jet

Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:28 pm

csturdiv wrote:
Doesn't Dow Chenicals have a CR7? Probably more of a shuttle than a business jet.


Yes, N872DC.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N872DC

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Re: CRJ7/900 as a corporate jet

Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:26 pm

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Re: CRJ7/900 as a corporate jet

Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:31 pm

32andBelow wrote:
Isn’t that just a challenger?


Yes and no. To the uninitiated the CRJ might look like a Challenger but it's a totally different animal. However, the CRJ is a derivative of the CJ which is a derivative of the Challenger 604 so there is some truth to this. Take it back even earlier to the original Challenger 600, Bill Lear's "LearStar" design, and one could argue the CRJ is "just a Learjet"?
 
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Re: CRJ7/900 as a corporate jet

Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:42 pm

PhilInBRN wrote:
Another VIP version of the CRJ700 is operated for Joe Gibbs Racing, N520JG



Thanks. I knew there was one somewhere in the NASCAR Air Force...
 
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Re: CRJ7/900 as a corporate jet

Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:44 pm

Interesting segue. When the Lear family sold the rights to the LearStar to Canadair, there was a royalty paid to the family on each Challenger sold (something like 125,000USD). When the CRJ was produced, the family sued for the royalties. BBD’s position was it was a different type, so no royalty due. Eventually, in Quebec court, the family won and a single payment was settled on.

There was no “CJ”, just the original CRJ that was designed by Canadair and taken on by BBD by first deliveries. The 604 incorporated the CRJ landing gear and avionics with some system improvements, but it was first delivered years after the CRJ.

CRJ conversions work well as shuttles, private airliners. Not so well as traditional corporate jets, aux fuel eats up payload, performance is considerably less than a purpose-built bizjets. A lot of owners bought CL850s thinking Global cabin size meant near-Global performance at half price. They were often disappointed, but some quite happy if they used them to fly Moscow to the Med resorts.

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