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Singapore Airlines takes delivery of first A350-900ULR from Airbus

Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:30 am

Airbus has delivered the first A350-900ULR to Singapore Airlines. The aircraft will depart TLS later today for SIN.

Singapore Airlines will resume SIN-EWR from 11 October 18. The aircraft in configured with 67 Business and 94 Premium Economy seats.

Congrats on SQ and Airbus on this achievement

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Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:32 am

I understand that SQ supposedly has an aversion to special liveries post Tropical Megatop...... but since they've made a few minor exceptions in the years since, I was REALLY hoping we'd see some special (identifying) colors for this aircraft. I'm sure I wasn't alone in that. :(

Oh well, any pics of the interior yet?
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:48 am

MSN220 (9V-SGA) is wearing the same registration series as the airline‘s A340-500s
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:59 pm

I am not sure why but the number of toilets on this plane gives me anxiety. It does not seem like enough. 3 for 67 bladders in J and 3 for 94 bladders in W.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:06 pm

SGA must previously an A345 registration.
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:07 pm

YouGeeElWhy wrote:
I am not sure why but the number of toilets on this plane gives me anxiety. It does not seem like enough. 3 for 67 bladders in J and 3 for 94 bladders in W.

That's plenty as airlines are reducing number of toilets in all classes since they're occupying spaces that can otherwise earn money. QF gives 1 toilet for 28J going 8hrs and AC gives 6 toilets for 398(!) pax on 14hr flights.

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Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:07 pm

YouGeeElWhy wrote:
I am not sure why but the number of toilets on this plane gives me anxiety. It does not seem like enough. 3 for 67 bladders in J and 3 for 94 bladders in W.


So six toilets for 161 passengers. Most A320/737s have only 2-3 toilets for upwards of 190 passengers.
 
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Grey engines same as A380.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:20 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
I understand that SQ supposedly has an aversion to special liveries post Tropical Megatop...... but since they've made a few minor exceptions in the years since, I was REALLY hoping we'd see some special (identifying) colors for this aircraft. I'm sure I wasn't alone in that. :(

I very much prefer their regular livery.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:22 pm

YouGeeElWhy wrote:
I am not sure why but the number of toilets on this plane gives me anxiety. It does not seem like enough. 3 for 67 bladders in J and 3 for 94 bladders in W.

Six toilets for 161 passengers seems more than enough.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:23 pm

ThomasCook wrote:
YouGeeElWhy wrote:
I am not sure why but the number of toilets on this plane gives me anxiety. It does not seem like enough. 3 for 67 bladders in J and 3 for 94 bladders in W.


So six toilets for 161 passengers. Most A320/737s have only 2-3 toilets for upwards of 190 passengers.

I would contend that on the average A320/B737 flight of less than 2 hours, the majority of the pax do not use the toilets. Instead, knowing the "luxury" that awaits onboard in the toilet department, most will choose to visit the toilets at the departure airport before boarding.

A 14 hour flight is rather different, as absolutely everyone on board will have to "go" at least once, if not twice, during that flight time. I am also sure that the number of visits per hour is anything but linear, it will have several peaks, like before and after meal service, and 2 hours before arrival. It is actually very frustrating that in order to get a visit at peak times assuming you have an urgent need, you have to stand in a very undignified queue to access a toilet! That's part of the modern cheap-ticket travel experience!

Edit to add: There are some pax travelling in Y who would really like to have a shower before arrival. So they lock themselves into one of the few Y toilets, and stay there for 10 or more minutes, washing, shaving, etc. You have 3 pax like that simultaneously, then the undignified queues can get very long, and increasingly undignified!
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:23 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
QF gives 1 toilet for 28J going 8hrs and AC gives 6 toilets for 398(!) pax on 14hr flights.

ThomasCook wrote:
Most A320/737s have only 2-3 toilets for upwards of 190 passengers.

I was talking about J where the bubbly flows free for 16 hours, not AC's slave ship class or a short haul A320/737. I have been waiting quite a few times in lines with more bathrooms and fewer J seats.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:27 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
QF gives 1 toilet for 28J going 8hrs


Yeah, which they quickly realised wasn't enough so are adding a second (at the cost of one seat).
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:31 pm

sassiciai wrote:
A 14 hour flight is rather different, as absolutely everyone on board will have to "go" at least once, if not twice, during that flight time.

Not true! ;)

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/new ... let-break/

Sorry, couldn't resist.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:36 pm

qf002 wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
QF gives 1 toilet for 28J going 8hrs


Yeah, which they quickly realised wasn't enough so are adding a second (at the cost of one seat).

True

YouGeeElWhy wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
QF gives 1 toilet for 28J going 8hrs and AC gives 6 toilets for 398(!) pax on 14hr flights.

ThomasCook wrote:
Most A320/737s have only 2-3 toilets for upwards of 190 passengers.

I was talking about J where the bubbly flows free for 16 hours, not AC's slave ship class or a short haul A320/737. I have been waiting quite a few times in lines with more bathrooms and fewer J seats.

The same holds true as even in Y you think you don't have free flow of water/juice/soft drink etc.? And if you want more examples, BA A380 upper J with 53 seats and 3 toilets, or 66 C with 3 toilets for BA (yeah throw on the slave ship argument again), just for your reference.

And btw, just checked ULR seatmap and I believe SQ ULR has 4 toilets for C class as the wheelchair accessible toilet should actually be two toilets convertible to one larger toilet based on my A350 experiences so far.

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Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:51 pm

LAX772LR wrote:
I understand that SQ supposedly has an aversion to special liveries post Tropical Megatop...... but since they've made a few minor exceptions in the years since, I was REALLY hoping we'd see some special (identifying) colors for this aircraft. I'm sure I wasn't alone in that. :(

Oh well, any pics of the interior yet?


Was hoping for a special livery too. I know it is a highly specialised cabin, but any prospects of this aircraft being used on short haul rotations for making the most of it?

MartijnNL wrote:
sassiciai wrote:
A 14 hour flight is rather different, as absolutely everyone on board will have to "go" at least once, if not twice, during that flight time.

Not true! ;)

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/new ... let-break/


Depends! :old:
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:01 pm

MartijnNL wrote:
sassiciai wrote:
A 14 hour flight is rather different, as absolutely everyone on board will have to "go" at least once, if not twice, during that flight time.

Not true! ;)

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/new ... let-break/

Sorry, couldn't resist.

HaHaHa!

I challenge you to do the same - 17 hours without a toilet trip!

You don't need to put yourself through the torture of the actual flight, just the time!

If you succeed, I'll buy you pint of your favorite beer (I live in Belgium, so there is a bit of choice). And as a gesture of good will, I'll buy you 2 pints just before you start! :lol:
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:07 pm

sassiciai wrote:
MartijnNL wrote:
sassiciai wrote:
A 14 hour flight is rather different, as absolutely everyone on board will have to "go" at least once, if not twice, during that flight time.

Not true! ;)

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/new ... let-break/

Sorry, couldn't resist.

HaHaHa!

I challenge you to do the same - 17 hours without a toilet trip!

You don't need to put yourself through the torture of the actual flight, just the time!

If you succeed, I'll buy you pint of your favorite beer (I live in Belgium, so there is a bit of choice). And as a gesture of good will, I'll buy you 2 pints just before you start! :lol:


I recently took a flight JFK-HKG (16 hours) where BOTH of my seatmates (I was in the window) never went to the bathroom at all during the flight. That amazed me.
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:19 pm

FL360, on a 16-hour flight, I recommend that you book an isle seat - that's what I do on any flight over 6 hours and that happens at night. Then I am free of my 2 "colleagues", and can go for a walk, a pee, a beer whenever I want without disturbing the others. Yup, you loose the view from the window, but gain a large degree of freedom in your Y jail cell, and dont loose too much as all blinds are down!

With the known effects of jet lag, sometimes you find yourself on a night flight in the bit of the world where you are right now, but for your body it is not night time. For me, it is important that I can get up and walk, go the toilet, chat to the FAs, have a drink,..... and not arrive after 12+ hours with ankles that are swollen up for the next 3 or 4 days through lack of movement (and the wrong air pressure on my legs)
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:34 pm

FlightLevel360 wrote:
sassiciai wrote:
MartijnNL wrote:

HaHaHa!

I challenge you to do the same - 17 hours without a toilet trip!

You don't need to put yourself through the torture of the actual flight, just the time!

If you succeed, I'll buy you pint of your favorite beer (I live in Belgium, so there is a bit of choice). And as a gesture of good will, I'll buy you 2 pints just before you start! :lol:


I recently took a flight JFK-HKG (16 hours) where BOTH of my seatmates (I was in the window) never went to the bathroom at all during the flight. That amazed me.


I can't remember the last time I used an airplane bathroom as I detest the things. I go just before the flight, I do hydrate while in the air, but by not drinking too much, or perhaps it's because I don't drink alcohol on flights I can comfortably make it to a real bathroom at the arriving airport. I do stand on most flights to stretch the legs a bit but no cramped, stinky airplane toilet for me unless it's an emergency. Plus on most airlines they are quite the mess towards the end of the flight and very often not very far into the start of it.
I flew SFO-SYD many a year back and did not go while the guy next to me (In UA Y class) pounded Victoria Bitters the entire flight down and was off to the loo constantly.
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:39 pm

Is this a thread on lavatories and bladder control??
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:42 pm

Are the winglets bigger? It seems like it but I can't really tell.
 
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Well, it makes a change from the usual A versus B pissing competitions on most a.net threads!
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:46 pm

rotating14 wrote:
Is this a thread on lavatories and bladder control??


Apparently so, yes.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:51 pm

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Are the winglets bigger? It seems like it but I can't really tell.


Apparently so, Airbus love to improve their aircraft overtime.

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Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:56 pm

I wonder if the aircraft will be able to make it to SIN without a fuel stop... haha
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:11 pm

Someone please hide this thread from those in Turkey (TK), Aus/NZ (QF and NZ). We will be talking until 2022 on how many toilets are needed on a 20 hours flight to SYD.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:18 pm

FlightLevel360 wrote:
I recently took a flight JFK-HKG (16 hours) where BOTH of my seatmates (I was in the window) never went to the bathroom at all during the flight. That amazed me.

When I have a window seat and need to go to the toilet I usually wait until my seatmates get up, so I don't have to disturb them. That would have failed miserably on this trip. Why do some passengers on a 16 hour journey choose to stay in their seats the entire flight? :shock:

Or did those two walk up and down the aisle every now and then? Just without using the toilet?
 
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mdavies06 wrote:
Someone please hide this thread from those in Turkey (TK), Aus/NZ (QF and NZ). We will be talking until 2022 on how many toilets are needed on a 20 hours flight to SYD.


Well there have been some Australians comment already, but what are you trying to insinuate, that we take the piss out of things ?
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:09 pm

Mayday111 wrote:
Are the winglets bigger? It seems like it but I can't really tell.


Mayday111 wrote:
Apparently so, yes.


The twitter ULR diagram notes "extended winglets." I'm not sure if this is the same as the modified design shown previously, or if in fact, the winglets are bigger - in my mind, extended has less do with curvature or shape, but denotes longer or wider? I don't know...the angle of the press photo makes it difficult to tell.

https://twitter.com/A350_Production/sta ... 9777393664

rotating14 wrote:
Is this a thread on lavatories and bladder control??


Honestly, for any thread regarding ULR planes.. I think it's fair game.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:14 pm

MartijnNL wrote:
That would have failed miserably on this trip. Why do some passengers on a 16 hour journey choose to stay in their seats the entire flight? :


Never had a 16 hour flight, but plenty in the 12 to 14 he range and I noticed that especially women often sit down and remain seated the whole flight, while drinking little. Haven't noticed them rush to a bathroom after deplaning either.

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mdavies06 wrote:
Someone please hide this thread from those in Turkey (TK), Aus/NZ (QF and NZ). We will be talking until 2022 on how many toilets are needed on a 20 hours flight to SYD.


More than 1 on those Sydney 20 hour flights.

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Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:35 pm

The longest one I've done is 13 hours in 2008 I believe, from ICN to DFW. At that time Korean Air hasn't refurbished their B777 yet. So no PTV, only overhead projector.

They also have 2-5-2 config and I stuck at the very middle seat with 4 people around me. Worst flight ever! I have to bypass 2 people on each side to go to the toilet. And my legs and butt are dead on arrival.

Can't imagine doing it for 16+ hours though. Geez.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:50 pm

May I ask you to keep the thread on topic, even if I have to admit it was quite interesting and sometimes entertaining? Feel free to open a new thread in case you want to have a further discussion about the available number of toilets up in the air.
 
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That’s an extremely northerly route they’re doing here. TLS-SIN isn’t even a polar route. Are they trying to stretch the delivery flight upwards of 18 hours?
 
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Interesting delivery flight path 9V-SGA is taking from TLS to SIN, flying to the west of Denmark now.
Any idea if they are trying out a new flight plan? Some kind of polar route perhaps?
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:19 pm

I recognize that the primary rationale for this configuration was to make maximize payload (fuel), however - I would love to see how its PRESM (SLA'd) compares to their standard A359, and even how it compares to QR, or DL's A359. Would be interesting to see if a ultra heavy premium conformation can actually drive a revenue premium...
 
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I'll be the first one to say/ask it (although it's been discussed 1076 times). Why wouldn't UA want to try with an all Polaris aircraft? Given they love that they "own" Asia for an US carrier, it would be a real feather. Could an "all Polaris" 787 do the flight?

She is beautiful though. It is one flight that could really use a small lounge!
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carlokiii wrote:
StTim wrote:

That’s an extremely northerly route they’re doing here. TLS-SIN isn’t even a polar route. Are they trying to stretch the delivery flight upwards of 18 hours?


Yeah where the hell are they going? Above Norway now, they must be trying to stretch the flight time.
 
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ThomasCook wrote:
YouGeeElWhy wrote:
I am not sure why but the number of toilets on this plane gives me anxiety. It does not seem like enough. 3 for 67 bladders in J and 3 for 94 bladders in W.


So six toilets for 161 passengers. Most A320/737s have only 2-3 toilets for upwards of 190 passengers.


Except that the flight is blocked at about 18 hours on the outbound from WSSS to KEWR, and 18:45 on the return from KEWR to WSSS, meaning that with 161 souls, one can expect somewhat of a queue since I'd expect people to need to use the lavatories at least twice. For a narrow-body, you rarely see stages in excess of 5 hours except for a few airlines, primarily US carriers across the Atlantic or transcontinental, Primera Air, and Copa Airlines. Also, keep in mind you have at least 8-10 flight attendants and 4 pilots (2 complete crews would be needed for this flight). The first few flights may have seats blocked here, or on SQ26, to position crews in NYC.

What could really cause a problem is if the flight needs to divert anywhere to where isn't a usual SQ A350 outstation. I would also wonder if on some days, it may be worth it to send the return flight east instead of west to take advantage of headwinds.
 
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[quote=
I would also wonder if on some days, it may be worth it to send the return flight east instead of west to take advantage of headwinds.[/quote]

There were already doing that during the A345 days; normally going eastwards from SIN and returning from EWR via polar route or eastwards / westwards depending on winds.
 
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Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:26 pm

I watched two cathy flights last week (the first A350-1000 return flight from Washington DC and a standard -900 from NewYork). The NY one went east. The Washington DC one went west.
 
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It feels a little like Dejavu from 15 years ago when the A340-500 debuted. Glad to see these routes return
 
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Can't believe it's already been 15 YEARS since the A340-500 debuted for SQ :shock:
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It feels a little like Dejavu from 15 years ago when the A340-500 debuted. Glad to see these routes return.

Sad that the A340-500 is no more, but good to see the world's longest route will be back soon. Unfortunately it was too expensive for me back then, but who knows maybe I will fly on this A350 one day. A 19,5 inch wide seat and 38 inches of pitch doesn't sound too bad.

The delivery flight is something special as well, approaching the coast of Spitsbergen now.
 
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So far every 1,5 hours in the air has taken them on average around 200 miles closer to Singapore.

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=TLS-SIN%0D ... =wls&DU=mi
 
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I know it is a highly specialised cabin, but any prospects of this aircraft being used on short haul rotations for making the most of it?

I suppose it will take after the previous A345's practice of doing Jkt-Sin-Jkt in-between its primary missions, chiefly for the pilots to put in more rotations and also to utilize the plane more as otherwise it would be on the ground for many hours everyday. And like previously, discounted tickets won't be valid on these short hops.
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Re: Singapore Airlines takes delivery of first A350-900ULR from Airbus

Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:52 pm

Why are the last rows in premium economy 1-4-1 instead of 2-4-2? I remember Airbus saying that the cabin width of its A350 stays the same the entire length of the plane, unlike the A330's and A340's whose cabins get less wide in the back.

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