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Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:20 am

This is due to engine issues. Hopefully it won't be much longer than that and wreck their summer program.

https://blueswandaily.com/air-transat-f ... six-weeks/
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:59 pm

Where were they planning on flying it? Will they have to lease in capacity?
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:54 pm

Newbiepilot wrote:
Where were they planning on flying it? Will they have to lease in capacity?


Air Transat in last week’s schedule update filed planned Airbus A321 Trans-Atlantic service, mainly operating from Montreal and Quebec City. The A321neo LR aircraft will gradually serving following markets from May 2019.

Montreal – Basel/Mulhouse eff 17JUN19 2 weekly
Montreal – Lisbon eff 03MAY19 1 weekly (Except 21JUN10 – 01OCT19)
Montreal – London Gatwick 19JUN19 – 18SEP19 1 weekly
Montreal – Marseille eff 06MAY19 1 weekly (Except 13JUN19 – 13OCT19)
Montreal – Nantes eff 06MAY19 1 weekly (Except 11JUN19 – 24SEP19)
Montreal – Nice eff 02MAY19 2 weekly (3 weekly from 14MAY19)
Montreal – Porto eff 04MAY19 2 weekly (3 weekly from 27MAY19)
Montreal – Toulouse 14OCT19
Quebec City – Paris CDG eff 03MAY19 2 weekly (3 weekly from 28MAY19)

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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:00 pm

Newbiepilot wrote:
Where were they planning on flying it? Will they have to lease in capacity?


Don't think so, rather keep operating their planned for retirement A310s if necessary. However, the first were expected during the 1st quarter and regular flights from May. Thus, four to six weeks delay may not impact schedules in the end.
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:29 pm

Sigh... Pratt issue, per old PR they bought PW1135s.

http://www.deagel.com/news/Air-Transat- ... 18007.aspx
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:52 pm

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Sigh... Pratt issue, per old PR they bought PW1135s.

http://www.deagel.com/news/Air-Transat- ... 18007.aspx


Indeed, but better be late than sorry, and I don't mean it in a catastrophic way, just that if engines glitches happen they may impact the airline reputation amongst passengers and since TS is evolving in a very comptetitive environment they can't afford it. I remember when the PW4460 were failing during takeoffs at rotation with lots of noise and flames.
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:06 pm

It will be great to see the A321LR NEO in service and performing never before seen feats. This is the most significant new airplane in years, opening a new market sector (as does A220, at least for the modern era). It will be interesting to see what happens.
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:08 pm

How many seats will their A321LR have? Just wondering what sort of pitch will be there and how overall does it compare with the A310.
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:24 pm

The current 2 x A321 CEO on the fleet have Y190, maybe the LR will not be very far away regarding total number of seats
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:23 pm

AECM wrote:
The current 2 x A321 CEO on the fleet have Y190, maybe the LR will not be very far away regarding total number of seats


Looks like the A321neo's are 199 seats.
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:58 pm

Flighty wrote:
It will be great to see the A321LR NEO in service and performing never before seen feats. This is the most significant new airplane in years, opening a new market sector (as does A220, at least for the modern era). It will be interesting to see what happens.


The most significant new airplane in years??? It is a 7,000lbs MTOW increase. We already have 4 airlines flying transatlantic routes with 737-8s. Never before seen feats is a bit dramatic of a description.
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:13 pm

Newbiepilot wrote:
Flighty wrote:
It will be great to see the A321LR NEO in service and performing never before seen feats. This is the most significant new airplane in years, opening a new market sector (as does A220, at least for the modern era). It will be interesting to see what happens.


The most significant new airplane in years??? It is a 7,000lbs MTOW increase. We already have 4 airlines flying transatlantic routes with 737-8s. Never before seen feats is a bit dramatic of a description.


Point taken. IMO this will open some Middle of Market routes we haven't seen. The trip cost difference versus 763 or 752 is a big deal. 737-8 is also interesting and I can't picture how that will play out.
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:25 pm

rbavfan wrote:
AECM wrote:
The current 2 x A321 CEO on the fleet have Y190, maybe the LR will not be very far away regarding total number of seats


Looks like the A321neo's are 199 seats.


They'll be two class, and the A321LR can seat "206 passengers in a typical two-class layout".

https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... erato.html
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:49 pm

Any news about the delay and first delivery dates?
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:25 pm

PW 1135s? I’m assuming this means higher thrust. So will these 321s be -273s?

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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:43 pm

res77W, all A321LR were supposed to have 35K Engines. Alas, I do not know the latest standard details.
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:37 am

Image
https://twitter.com/Tobias_Gudat/status ... 8646273025

Seems almost ready to start test flights
Does anyone know cabin layout/seats of these Air Transat LR?
I can't find anywhere
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:43 am

Am I not right in saying Aer Lingus have had to cancel transatlantic flights for the summer due to A321 delivery delays?
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:46 am

ptwings wrote:
Seems almost ready to start test flights
Does anyone know cabin layout/seats of these Air Transat LR?
I can't find anywhere


Looks great. These new engines look better than the old CFM/IAEs.

"Air Transat’s A321LRs will have 199 seats in two classes, with 12 new Club Class seats in a 2-2 configuration, and 187 economy seats with a 32-inch pitch."

https://apex.aero/2019/03/14/just-right ... s-aircraft
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:00 am

Eirules wrote:
Am I not right in saying Aer Lingus have had to cancel transatlantic flights for the summer due to A321 delivery delays?


They are all late but are slowly coming out.
First TAP LR made its second test flight yesterday.
I think the Aer Lingus slots are later ones.

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
ptwings wrote:
Seems almost ready to start test flights
Does anyone know cabin layout/seats of these Air Transat LR?
I can't find anywhere

Looks great. These new engines look better than the old CFM/IAEs.
"Air Transat’s A321LRs will have 199 seats in two classes, with 12 new Club Class seats in a 2-2 configuration, and 187 economy seats with a 32-inch pitch."
https://apex.aero/2019/03/14/just-right ... s-aircraft


Thanks. Are they waiting only A321LR or others "regular" A321neo too ?
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:18 am

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
ptwings wrote:
Seems almost ready to start test flights
Does anyone know cabin layout/seats of these Air Transat LR?
I can't find anywhere


Looks great. These new engines look better than the old CFM/IAEs.

"Air Transat’s A321LRs will have 199 seats in two classes, with 12 new Club Class seats in a 2-2 configuration, and 187 economy seats with a 32-inch pitch."

https://apex.aero/2019/03/14/just-right ... s-aircraft



Sounds like it will be a nice ride for passengers in economy! Much better than the 9 abreast A310/330 that they operate. Most airlines, including the big full service airlines, seem to be reducing pitch to the 29/30 inch region. Nice to see Transat going with 32!
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:34 am

ptwings wrote:
Are they waiting only A321LR or others "regular" A321neo too ?


Last year they upped their order with seven additionals, including two non-LR.

https://www.wingsoverquebec.com/?p=7267
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:04 am

lightsaber wrote:
Sigh... Pratt issue, per old PR they bought PW1135s.

http://www.deagel.com/news/Air-Transat- ... 18007.aspx


The delivery problems in regards to engines hit the higher trust versions used on the A321neo more than the lower trust versions. There are more A321neo with GTF getting delivered than with LEAP engines. 97 to 56 in all and 20 to 11 so far this year.
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:28 am

TAP Portugal first A321LR has LEAP engines and is also late on delivery. It only did the first flight this week and was "supposed" to open a new route for TAP this weekend.
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:35 pm

Newbiepilot wrote:
Flighty wrote:
It will be great to see the A321LR NEO in service and performing never before seen feats. This is the most significant new airplane in years, opening a new market sector (as does A220, at least for the modern era). It will be interesting to see what happens.


The most significant new airplane in years??? It is a 7,000lbs MTOW increase. We already have 4 airlines flying transatlantic routes with 737-8s. Never before seen feats is a bit dramatic of a description.


Who are those airlines ?
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:46 pm

So this is their last summer of A310 ops?
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:53 pm

Newbiepilot wrote:
Flighty wrote:
It will be great to see the A321LR NEO in service and performing never before seen feats. This is the most significant new airplane in years, opening a new market sector (as does A220, at least for the modern era). It will be interesting to see what happens.


The most significant new airplane in years??? It is a 7,000lbs MTOW increase. We already have 4 airlines flying transatlantic routes with 737-8s. Never before seen feats is a bit dramatic of a description.


Curious to learn which these 4 airlines are flying TATL with 737-8s
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:51 am

Northpole wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:
Flighty wrote:
It will be great to see the A321LR NEO in service and performing never before seen feats. This is the most significant new airplane in years, opening a new market sector (as does A220, at least for the modern era). It will be interesting to see what happens.


The most significant new airplane in years??? It is a 7,000lbs MTOW increase. We already have 4 airlines flying transatlantic routes with 737-8s. Never before seen feats is a bit dramatic of a description.


Curious to learn which these 4 airlines are flying TATL with 737-8s


Norwegian, Air Canada, WestJet, Icelandair? They were before the grounding anyways.
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:08 am

Northpole wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:
Flighty wrote:
It will be great to see the A321LR NEO in service and performing never before seen feats. This is the most significant new airplane in years, opening a new market sector (as does A220, at least for the modern era). It will be interesting to see what happens.


The most significant new airplane in years??? It is a 7,000lbs MTOW increase. We already have 4 airlines flying transatlantic routes with 737-8s. Never before seen feats is a bit dramatic of a description.


Curious to learn which these 4 airlines are flying TATL with 737-8s


AC, WS, FI, NK. At least before the grounding. WS also flew the 73G, and I believe there was an airline from France that also used to operate the NG TATL.
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:27 am

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AC, WS, FI, NK. At least before the grounding. WS also flew the 73G, and I believe there was an airline from France that also used to operate the NG TATL.


That was Europe Airpost, they flew CDG-GLA-YHZ in their first year serving YHZ and CDG-DUB-YHZ the second (and final) year. They flew the 73G.
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:20 am

YYZatcboy wrote:
Northpole wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:

The most significant new airplane in years??? It is a 7,000lbs MTOW increase. We already have 4 airlines flying transatlantic routes with 737-8s. Never before seen feats is a bit dramatic of a description.


Curious to learn which these 4 airlines are flying TATL with 737-8s


AC, WS, FI, NK. At least before the grounding. WS also flew the 73G, and I believe there was an airline from France that also used to operate the NG TATL.


NK does not fly 737's they fly A320/A321
 
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Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:53 am

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NK does not fly 737's they fly A320/A321

And Iceland Air can't fly TATL. They fly Iceland <>Europe and Iceland <> North America, don't they? ( where else would they get the fish).
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:22 am

rbavfan wrote:
YYZatcboy wrote:
Northpole wrote:


Curious to learn which these 4 airlines are flying TATL with 737-8s


AC, WS, FI, NK. At least before the grounding. WS also flew the 73G, and I believe there was an airline from France that also used to operate the NG TATL.


NK does not fly 737's they fly A320/A321


Sorry I meant Norwegian, just screwed up the code.
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:14 pm

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So this is their last summer of A310 ops?


Seems so, perhaps even as backup. However I don't know how quickly the first ten will be delivered and thus replace the seven remaining A310s.
 
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Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:26 pm

YYZatcboy wrote:
Northpole wrote:
Newbiepilot wrote:

The most significant new airplane in years??? It is a 7,000lbs MTOW increase. We already have 4 airlines flying transatlantic routes with 737-8s. Never before seen feats is a bit dramatic of a description.


Curious to learn which these 4 airlines are flying TATL with 737-8s


AC, WS, FI, NK. At least before the grounding. WS also flew the 73G, and I believe there was an airline from France that also used to operate the NG TATL.
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:16 pm

Today the first A321/LR for TAP Portugal is expected to be delivered
 
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Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:35 am

A321 LR to operate YYZ-GLA on 30th October.
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:46 pm

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
skipness1E wrote:
So this is their last summer of A310 ops?


Seems so, perhaps even as backup. However I don't know how quickly the first ten will be delivered and thus replace the seven remaining A310s.



The A310's will limp along till 2021, the very last one may even make it into 2022.

But they are down to 6 now...
 
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Re: Air Transat first A321LR to be delayed by four to six weeks

Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:08 pm

tribird1011 wrote:
The A310's will limp along till 2021, the very last one may even make it into 2022.


That long. I thought they would be gone by 2021.

tribird1011 wrote:
But they are down to 6 now...


Indeed, C-GFAT has been sent to YMX two months ago.
 
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Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:54 pm

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Indeed, C-GFAT has been sent to YMX two months ago.


That is true, although that was an unplanned retirement.

C-GTSW may be the next one to go. It's only got about 2000 hours left or so...
 
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:25 am

Their investor relation's website says the A310s are gone by 2020?

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Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:55 am

First photo from A.net

 
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Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:33 pm

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First photo from A.net


Definitely a pretty machine in my opinion. Hoping for some interior photos as well.

Does anyone know if the LR has any small cockpit changes or if it is just like any other ETOPS A320 series?
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Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:42 pm

kabq737 wrote:
SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
First photo from A.net


Definitely a pretty machine in my opinion. Hoping for some interior photos as well.

Does anyone know if the LR has any small cockpit changes or if it is just like any other ETOPS A320 series?


It should have the same cockpit has a "regular" NEO
 
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Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:27 pm

Was it its first flight today, or has it already flown earlier this month?

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