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JoseSalazar
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:21 am

B6JFKH81 wrote:
JoseSalazar wrote:
Still looking at 10 older A320s not getting the mod at all and being retired?


There are 5 A320s that will never be put through the mod that are definite as there wouldn't be a good enough ROI before lease return/retirement:
N503JB
N504JB
N505JB
N506JB
N517JB

There are 9 A320s that might get the mod or might not get the mod depending on next year's budget and evaluation of their lease return/retirement dates where we might see an ROI if the mod gets done early enough. Since they are up in the air (no pun intended), I will not release that information on a forum just yet.

Sounds like only 3 of the formerly TBD 9 will get the mod and 6 won’t, plus the 5 you mentioned that also won’t, bringing the total to 11 A320s that won’t see the mod and will continue flying around with the classic interior until retired/returned.
 
JoseSalazar
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:44 am

JBcapecott wrote:
Sorry to go a little off, but when will 4022 be delivered?

Last week of this month I think.
 
JBcapecott
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:17 am

JoseSalazar wrote:
JBcapecott wrote:
Sorry to go a little off, but when will 4022 be delivered?

Last week of this month I think.

Why if it already had at least 4 test flights? And also, is NEO 2102 Core or Mint?

Thanks again!
 
N624JB
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Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:44 pm

Hello all- longtime lurker, first time poster. Actually my first post on a.net. Is there a chance you can disclose which 320s are the 6 not getting the mod, and which 3 were spared? 559 has a special place in my heart, the first plane I ever flew.

As a side note, it’s good to see 509 receiving the mod. She’s the oldest one so far to receive it that has been with JetBlue their whole life.
 
B6JFKH81
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:59 pm

N624JB wrote:
Hello all- longtime lurker, first time poster. Actually my first post on a.net. Is there a chance you can disclose which 320s are the 6 not getting the mod, and which 3 were spared? 559 has a special place in my heart, the first plane I ever flew.

As a side note, it’s good to see 509 receiving the mod. She’s the oldest one so far to receive it that has been with JetBlue their whole life.


N559JB will receive the Phase 2 interior, just don't know what the date yet.

507 is actually the oldest to be modified so far.
"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
 
slcdeltarumd11
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:15 am

JBcapecott wrote:
CobaltScar wrote:
I've seen them switch equipment literally within 15 mins of boarding. It use to be the aircraft utilization was so high, if something went wrong they had no choice but to grab any plane they could to keep the flight going, swinging widely between a E190 and a 321 (or even a Mint 321). Now I think its the opposite and they might downgauge equipment to more match a lighter load. So all you can do is monitor in advance and hope for the best.

So pretend an A320 broke down and they only plane to cover was a MINT 321. Would they need the special MINT crew for that? Since the capacity numbers are very similar, would any passenger have go to the gate and upgrade to MINT, or would Even More Space/Mosaic flyers be automaitcllay entitled to MINT? Guessing they prob don't serve MINT meals, like if it's only a 3-hr flight.


I rode a mint 321 jfk-btv. They just used the coach portion of the plane. My guess is they needed a really quick turn around city ie a place the mint plane could be back in jfk quickly. Guessing our plane replaced a plane that had an issue but is further. Ie the mint plane was available but not long enough to cover that flight that went mechanical or they wanted the mint spare close in case it was needed etc etc. I bet they do the mint subs like that alot shorter routes.
 
7673mech
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:58 pm

JBcapecott wrote:
JoseSalazar wrote:
JBcapecott wrote:
Sorry to go a little off, but when will 4022 be delivered?

Last week of this month I think.

Why if it already had at least 4 test flights? And also, is NEO 2102 Core or Mint?

Thanks again!


Aircraft deliveries are contractual.
There is a contractual date and money needs to change hands.
It is like closing on a house.
Regardless of when the plane is complete (if its early) there is a contractual delivery date.
 
mjgbtv
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:39 am

JBcapecott wrote:
CobaltScar wrote:
I've seen them switch equipment literally within 15 mins of boarding. It use to be the aircraft utilization was so high, if something went wrong they had no choice but to grab any plane they could to keep the flight going, swinging widely between a E190 and a 321 (or even a Mint 321). Now I think its the opposite and they might downgauge equipment to more match a lighter load. So all you can do is monitor in advance and hope for the best.

So pretend an A320 broke down and they only plane to cover was a MINT 321. Would they need the special MINT crew for that? Since the capacity numbers are very similar, would any passenger have go to the gate and upgrade to MINT, or would Even More Space/Mosaic flyers be automaitcllay entitled to MINT? Guessing they prob don't serve MINT meals, like if it's only a 3-hr flight.


I was on a flight a few years ago where that happened. They put people (including my party) into the Mint seats but made it clear that there would be no amenities. I'm not sure how they decided who would get moved. We were not EMS or Mint but were a large party.
 
JBcapecott
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:23 pm

FARmd90 wrote:
JBcapecott wrote:
My next flight is Wed. 04/14, 1891 PVD to RSW -- is there a tail for that? Hopefully 605!


793 as of right now, I’m sure this will change though.

Anything final now? Which tracker can you find tail assignments days away?

Thanks!
 
JoseSalazar
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:59 pm

JBcapecott wrote:
FARmd90 wrote:
JBcapecott wrote:
My next flight is Wed. 04/14, 1891 PVD to RSW -- is there a tail for that? Hopefully 605!


793 as of right now, I’m sure this will change though.

Anything final now? Which tracker can you find tail assignments days away?

Thanks!

Still shows 793. Not final til you are getting on the plane. Not sure what trackers are available this far out. 24 hours prior you should have a firm idea.
 
N624JB
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:13 pm

Hello all-
I’ve been tracking the ever-dwindling number of A320s with true classic interiors. I am referring to the frames with the old Weber seats, not the newer versions found on the 7xx-8xx tails. Hope this can be of service- catch em while you can

Active: 20
Parked: 12
Total: 32

Active:
N503JB- Reactivated 3/5/21
N519JB
N524JB
N537JT
N559JB- Reactivated 3/6/21
N566JB
N593JB
N597JB
N599JB
N624JB
N625JB
N630JB
N633JB
N635JB
N637JB
N638JB
N639JB
N658JB
N659JB
N661JB

Parked:
N504JB
N505JB
N506JB
N516JB
N517JB
N520JB
N521JB
N523JB
N536JB
N584JB
N657JB
N662JB

If people like this, I’ll do it once a month. Let me know what you think!
 
N624JB
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:54 pm

JoseSalazar wrote:

Not final til you are getting on the plane.


Just had this happen to me about a week ago. 580 and 534 were at two gates side by side, and I was scheduled for 534. About 15 mins before boarding, my gate changed, and I was swapped to 580 last minute. You never know what could change.

Apologies if this is a double post, still trying to figure things out.
 
JBcapecott
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:48 pm

N624JB wrote:
Hello all-
I’ve been tracking the ever-dwindling number of A320s with true classic interiors. I am referring to the frames with the old Weber seats, not the newer versions found on the 7xx-8xx tails. Hope this can be of service- catch em while you can

Active: 20
Parked: 12
Total: 32

Active:
N503JB- Reactivated 3/5/21
N519JB
N524JB
N537JT
N559JB- Reactivated 3/6/21
N566JB
N593JB
N597JB
N599JB
N624JB
N625JB
N630JB
N633JB
N635JB
N637JB
N638JB
N639JB
N658JB
N659JB
N661JB

Parked:
N504JB
N505JB
N506JB
N516JB
N517JB
N520JB
N521JB
N523JB
N536JB
N584JB
N657JB
N662JB

If people like this, I’ll do it once a month. Let me know what you think!

I think monthly updates are worth it -- so would 503, N504JB, N505JB, N506JB, N516JB, N517JB, N520JB, N521JB, N523JB, N536JB be the ones not getting modified?
 
B6JFKH81
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:56 pm

JBcapecott wrote:
N624JB wrote:
Hello all-
I’ve been tracking the ever-dwindling number of A320s with true classic interiors. I am referring to the frames with the old Weber seats, not the newer versions found on the 7xx-8xx tails. Hope this can be of service- catch em while you can

Active: 20
Parked: 12
Total: 32

Active:
N503JB- Reactivated 3/5/21
N519JB
N524JB
N537JT
N559JB- Reactivated 3/6/21
N566JB
N593JB
N597JB
N599JB
N624JB
N625JB
N630JB
N633JB
N635JB
N637JB
N638JB
N639JB
N658JB
N659JB
N661JB

Parked:
N504JB
N505JB
N506JB
N516JB
N517JB
N520JB
N521JB
N523JB
N536JB
N584JB
N657JB
N662JB

If people like this, I’ll do it once a month. Let me know what you think!

I think monthly updates are worth it -- so would 503, N504JB, N505JB, N506JB, N516JB, N517JB, N520JB, N521JB, N523JB, N536JB be the ones not getting modified?


I'd have to check the list, but I believe N536JB is supposed to be modified from what I remember. The plans have changed a few times over the course of the modification so far.

Oh, N509JB I believe is leaving SAL tomorrow. I'll be flying down to SAL Tuesday and should be able to give an updated list next weekend once I'm settled in.
"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
 
FARmd90
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:10 pm

Phase 1; 20/20 100% Complete
646JB-Complete-Bravo Lima Uniform Echo
568JB-Complete-Blue Sapphire
570JB-Complete-Devil With A Blue Dress On
556JB-Complete-Betty Blue
571JB-Complete-Blue Monday
621JB-Complete-Do Be Do Be Blue
579JB-Complete-Can’t Stop Lovin’ Blue
580JB-Complete-Mo’ Better Blue
627JB-Complete-A Friend Like Blue
529JB-Complete-Ole Blue Eyes
632JB-Complete-Bear Force One (Boston Bruins)
629JB-Complete-Bright Light, Blue City
653JB-Complete-Breath of Fresh Blue
510JB-Complete-Out Of The Blue
595JB-Complete-Lucky Blue (Boston Celtics)
558JB-Complete-Song Sung Blue
641JB-Complete-Blue Come Back Now Ya Hear?
634JB-Complete-B*L*U*E
534JB-Complete-Bada Bing, Bada Blue
598JB-Complete-Bluemanity

Phase 2; 64/110 58% Complete
729JB-Complete-If You Can Read This, You’re Blue Close
763JB-Complete-What’s Old is Blue Again (Retrojet)
591JB-Complete-Tail Of Blue Cities
766JB-Complete-Etay Luebay
594JB-Complete-Whole Lotta Blue
760JB-Complete-The Blues Were Made For Flying
552JB-Complete-Blue Jay
605JB-Complete-Boston Red Sox
644JB-Complete-Blue Loves Ya Baby
527JL-Complete-Blue Bayou
564JB-Complete-Absolute Blue
768JB-Complete-Blue Crew
643JB-Complete-Blue Jersey
586JB-Complete-I <3 Blue York
607JB-Complete-Beantown Blue
561JB-Complete-La Vie En Blue
775JB-Complete-Vets in Blue
563JB-Complete-Blue Chip
606JB-Complete-Idlewild Blue
779JB-Complete-Bluericua
665JB-Complete-Something About Blue
583JB-Complete-Bluesville
585JB-Complete-I Got Blue Babe
636JB-Complete-All Wrapped Up In Blue
796JB-Complete-100% Blue
651JB-Complete-I’m Having A Blue Moment
649JB-Complete-Fancy Meeting Blue Here
827JB-Complete-It Takes Blue to Tango (Youngest 320 so far & WL)
705JB-Complete-Big Blue People Seater
612JB-Complete-Blue Look Maahvelous
652JB-Complete-Out With Old In With The Blue
531JL-Complete-Blue Finest (NYPD paint)
565JB-Complete-Bippity Boppity Blue
547JB-Complete-Forever Blue
608JB-Complete-...And Along Came Blue
615JB-Complete-Blue Bravest (NYFD paint)
805JB-Complete-You Had Me At Blue (WL)
569JB-Complete-Blues Brothers
648JB-Complete-Hasta La Vista (Vacations Special 1 of 3)
554JB-Complete-Sacre’ Bleu!
507JT-Complete-Blue Crew (Oldest 320 so far)
508JL-Complete-May The Force Be With Blue
587JB-Complete-Blue Kid In Town
618JB-Complete-Can’t Get Enough Of Blue
526JL-Complete-Blues Just Want To Have Fun
655JB-Complete-Blue 100
623JB-Complete-Playa-Way With Me (Vacations Special 2 of 3)
708JB-Complete-All That And A Bag Of Blue Chips (WL)
789JB-Complete-What’s Blue And Flies All Over?
784JB-Complete-Blue Infinity And Beyond!
588JB-Complete-Hopelessly Devoted To Blue
589JB-Complete-Blue Skies Ahead
590JB-Complete-Liberty Blue
645JB-Complete-Blues Have More Fun
613JB-Complete-Bahama Blue
603JB-Complete- To Beach Their Own (Vacations paint 3 of 3)
746JB-Complete-Go Jets! (New York Jets Special)
793JB-Complete-My Other Ride Is a JetBlue E190
663JB-Compmete-Paint the Town Blue
562JB-Complete-The Name Is Blue, JetBlue
592JB-Complete-American Blue
656JB-Complete-California Blue
509JB-Complete-True Blue
535JB-Complete-Estrella Azul
834JB-In Progress ferried MCO-SAL 03/27 (B6’s youngest 320)
828JB-In Progress ferried MCO-SAL 03/29
640JB-In Progress ferried PBI-SAL 04/04
597JB-In Progress ferried MIA-SAL 04/13
Total Complete: 84/130 64%

Note* Tail 509 was suppose to come back today 04/12, but due to yesterday’s weather tail 597 the one replacing 509 was out of position for its expected ferry. 597 and 509 look to be making the swap tomorrow 04/13.
 
JBcapecott
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:31 pm

JoseSalazar wrote:
JBcapecott wrote:
FARmd90 wrote:

793 as of right now, I’m sure this will change though.

Anything final now? Which tracker can you find tail assignments days away?

Thanks!

Still shows 793. Not final til you are getting on the plane. Not sure what trackers are available this far out. 24 hours prior you should have a firm idea.

Confirming still 793 -- it'll be in RSW tonight according to Flight Aware.
 
FARmd90
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:12 pm

JBcapecott wrote:
JoseSalazar wrote:
JBcapecott wrote:
Anything final now? Which tracker can you find tail assignments days away?

Thanks!

Still shows 793. Not final til you are getting on the plane. Not sure what trackers are available this far out. 24 hours prior you should have a firm idea.

Confirming still 793 -- it'll be in RSW tonight according to Flight Aware.


746 is now scheduled to operate #1891 PVD-RSW tomorrow
 
JBcapecott
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:19 pm

FARmd90 wrote:
JBcapecott wrote:
JoseSalazar wrote:
Still shows 793. Not final til you are getting on the plane. Not sure what trackers are available this far out. 24 hours prior you should have a firm idea.

Confirming still 793 -- it'll be in RSW tonight according to Flight Aware.


746 is now scheduled to operate #1891 PVD-RSW tomorrow

Even better than 793, since I get to fly another special plane! Funny because my most recent flight was 595!
 
asuflyer
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:13 am

The first of four A321 that were due for B6 from Thomas Cook are now confirmed ntu and will now be operated by Viva Aerobus.

Image

https://twitter.com/Enel_Aire/status/13 ... 9453136896
 
B6JFKH81
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:52 pm

Ok, N509JB flew back to the US yesterday. Current aircraft going through the modification are:

N640JB (should release around the 30th)
N828JB (should release around the 24th)
N834JB (should release around the 22nd)
N597JB (should release sometime mid-may)
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JBcapecott
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:05 am

B6JFKH81 wrote:
Ok, N509JB flew back to the US yesterday. Current aircraft going through the modification are:

N640JB (should release around the 30th)
N828JB (should release around the 24th)
N834JB (should release around the 22nd)
N597JB (should release sometime mid-may)

Maybe/hopefully 834 will run my return flight -- 1792 on the 24th back to PVD.
 
FARmd90
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:26 pm

N834JB is scheduled to come back from SAL today with 566JB filling the spot. 04/21

N828JB is scheduled to come back from SAL on 4/23 with 537JT filling the spot.
 
B6JFKH81
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:15 pm

FARmd90 wrote:
N834JB is scheduled to come back from SAL today with 566JB filling the spot. 04/21

N828JB is scheduled to come back from SAL on 4/23 with 537JT filling the spot.


Yes sir, N834JB (and N903JB) are on the ramp right now waiting for the inbound aircraft to crew swap over and depart. "Signed, sealed and delivered" LOL.

N828JB (and N975JT) should be signed off tomorrow for flight on Friday, we're still wrapping those planes up on the paperwork and acceptance inspections but I don't foresee and delays.
"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
 
N624JB
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:32 pm

Hey all,
There’s been a lot of change recently, so I’m going to post another classics update.

Additionally, considering 537 flew in, and we know 536 and 559 are getting the mod, it's becoming increasingly evident that 503-506, and 516-524, will be the 11 frames not receiving the mod. Every other frame below 584 has received it (Not including 536 and 559).
---------------------------------
This is only for the true classic (5xx-6xx) interiors with the old weber seats.
As of 4/23/21:

Active: 19
Parked: 10
Total: 29 (Down from 32)

Changes since last post:
N597JB- Ferried to mod 4/13. 88th plane to receive mod.
N517JB- Reactivated MZJ-BOS 4/16
N662JB- Reactivated MZJ-BOS 4/17
N566JB- Ferried to mod 4/21. 89th mod.
N537JT- Ferried to mod 4/23. 90th mod.

Active: 19 (-1)
N503JB
N517JB- Reactivated 4/16
N519JB
N524JB
N559JB
N593JB
N599JB
N624JB
N625JB
N630JB
N633JB
N635JB
N637JB
N638JB
N639JB
N658JB
N659JB
N661JB
N662JB- Reactivated 4/17

Parked: 10 (-2)
N504JB
N505JB
N506JB
N516JB
N520JB
N521JB
N523JB
N536JB
N584JB
N657JB
 
FARmd90
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Mon May 03, 2021 12:00 am

Tail 640 is returning today to MCO, with tail 703 replacing it coming out of MZJ storage.
 
vtimmy13
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Tue May 04, 2021 4:47 pm

So if B6 keeps refitting its a320's at the same rate / current schedule. When should they be done?
 
B6JFKH81
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Tue May 04, 2021 9:13 pm

vtimmy13 wrote:
So if B6 keeps refitting its a320's at the same rate / current schedule. When should they be done?


The goal at this point is to have them all done by the end of the year, with the exception of the aircraft that were taken off the never-mod list, they will hopefully get done 1Q/2Q of next year.
"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Tue May 04, 2021 9:33 pm

B6JFKH81 wrote:
vtimmy13 wrote:
So if B6 keeps refitting its a320's at the same rate / current schedule. When should they be done?


The goal at this point is to have them all done by the end of the year, with the exception of the aircraft that were taken off the never-mod list, they will hopefully get done 1Q/2Q of next year.


What's the latest count on the never mod list? I guess those are probably retiring soon? How many more years do they think the refurbished ones can operate for?
 
FARmd90
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Tue May 04, 2021 11:41 pm

Phase 1; 20/20 100% Complete
646JB-Complete-Bravo Lima Uniform Echo
568JB-Complete-Blue Sapphire
570JB-Complete-Devil With A Blue Dress On
556JB-Complete-Betty Blue
571JB-Complete-Blue Monday
621JB-Complete-Do Be Do Be Blue
579JB-Complete-Can’t Stop Lovin’ Blue
580JB-Complete-Mo’ Better Blue
627JB-Complete-A Friend Like Blue
529JB-Complete-Ole Blue Eyes
632JB-Complete-Bear Force One (Boston Bruins)
629JB-Complete-Bright Light, Blue City
653JB-Complete-Breath of Fresh Blue
510JB-Complete-Out Of The Blue
595JB-Complete-Lucky Blue (Boston Celtics)
558JB-Complete-Song Sung Blue
641JB-Complete-Blue Come Back Now Ya Hear?
634JB-Complete-B*L*U*E
534JB-Complete-Bada Bing, Bada Blue
598JB-Complete-Bluemanity

Phase 2; 67/110 60% Complete
729JB-Complete-If You Can Read This, You’re Blue Close
763JB-Complete-What’s Old is Blue Again (Retrojet)
591JB-Complete-Tail Of Blue Cities
766JB-Complete-Etay Luebay
594JB-Complete-Whole Lotta Blue
760JB-Complete-The Blues Were Made For Flying
552JB-Complete-Blue Jay
605JB-Complete-Boston Red Sox
644JB-Complete-Blue Loves Ya Baby
527JL-Complete-Blue Bayou
564JB-Complete-Absolute Blue
768JB-Complete-Blue Crew
643JB-Complete-Blue Jersey
586JB-Complete-I <3 Blue York
607JB-Complete-Beantown Blue
561JB-Complete-La Vie En Blue
775JB-Complete-Vets in Blue
563JB-Complete-Blue Chip
606JB-Complete-Idlewild Blue
779JB-Complete-Bluericua
665JB-Complete-Something About Blue
583JB-Complete-Bluesville
585JB-Complete-I Got Blue Babe
636JB-Complete-All Wrapped Up In Blue
796JB-Complete-100% Blue
651JB-Complete-I’m Having A Blue Moment
649JB-Complete-Fancy Meeting Blue Here
827JB-Complete-It Takes Blue to Tango (WL)
705JB-Complete-Big Blue People Seater
612JB-Complete-Blue Look Maahvelous
652JB-Complete-Out With Old In With The Blue
531JL-Complete-Blue Finest (NYPD paint)
565JB-Complete-Bippity Boppity Blue
547JB-Complete-Forever Blue
608JB-Complete-...And Along Came Blue
615JB-Complete-Blue Bravest (NYFD paint)
805JB-Complete-You Had Me At Blue (WL)
569JB-Complete-Blues Brothers
648JB-Complete-Hasta La Vista (Vacations Special 1 of 3)
554JB-Complete-Sacre’ Bleu!
507JT-Complete-Blue Crew (Oldest 320 so far)
508JL-Complete-May The Force Be With Blue
587JB-Complete-Blue Kid In Town
618JB-Complete-Can’t Get Enough Of Blue
526JL-Complete-Blues Just Want To Have Fun
655JB-Complete-Blue 100
623JB-Complete-Playa-Way With Me (Vacations Special 2 of 3)
708JB-Complete-All That And A Bag Of Blue Chips (WL)
789JB-Complete-What’s Blue And Flies All Over?
784JB-Complete-Blue Infinity And Beyond!
588JB-Complete-Hopelessly Devoted To Blue
589JB-Complete-Blue Skies Ahead
590JB-Complete-Liberty Blue
645JB-Complete-Blues Have More Fun
613JB-Complete-Bahama Blue
603JB-Complete-To Beach Their Own(Vacations paint 3 of 3)
746JB-Complete-Go Jets! (New York Jets Special)
793JB-Complete-My Other Ride Is a JetBlue E190
663JB-Complete-Paint the Town Blue
562JB-Complete-The Name Is Blue, JetBlue
592JB-Complete-American Blue
656JB-Complete-California Blue
509JB-Complete-True Blue
535JB-Complete-Estrella Azul
834JB-Complete-Keep Blue and Carry On(WL)(Youngest 320)
828JB-Complete-It Takes Blue to Tango (WL)
640JB-Complete-Blue Better Believe It
597JB-In Progress ferried MIA-SAL 04/13
566JB-In Progress ferried MCO-SAL 04/21
537JT-In Progress ferried MCO-SAL 04/23
703JB-In Progress ferried MZJ-SAL 05/02
Total Complete: 87/130 66%

(WL)= Plane is equipped with Sharklets. Sharklet mods are not happening with no plans to restart it.
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Wed May 05, 2021 1:23 am

tphuang wrote:
B6JFKH81 wrote:
vtimmy13 wrote:
So if B6 keeps refitting its a320's at the same rate / current schedule. When should they be done?


The goal at this point is to have them all done by the end of the year, with the exception of the aircraft that were taken off the never-mod list, they will hopefully get done 1Q/2Q of next year.


What's the latest count on the never mod list? I guess those are probably retiring soon? How many more years do they think the refurbished ones can operate for?


Send me a reminder next Wednesday when I get back to SAL and see if I can dig up the latest for you. I think it was 6 or 9 on the list to not get modified.

Retirements, the last time I heard, start in 2023, but I do not know the order as I think it is related to the lease-back agreements that got done last year when COVID was hitting the hardest and 75 planes were in the desert.
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Wed May 05, 2021 9:22 pm

B6JFKH81 wrote:

Cushions get replaced "on condition" as there are multiple parameters that need to be checked, so there isn't a set amount of time. The newer seats have foam that actually lasts a looooooooong time, but need replacement or repair due to things like the fire coating wearing down too much or the front "lip" getting tugged on too much. It is looked at every HMV though. There is also a seat condition card issued on the line that most likely includes cushions but I don't know the time intervals for that being done as that is a line MX function.
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How long would the new Tuft & Needle adaptive foam Mint cushions on the LR/LD hold up?

(When) will 4022's cabin be revealed?

Thanks!
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Thu May 06, 2021 3:53 am

Any plans to retrofit Mint 2.0 as well as the airspace interior onto the older Mint 321s?
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Thu May 06, 2021 10:00 pm

Sounds like a total of 116 will be done by end of year, last 3 in Q12022, and 11 never to be modded and then returned to leasing companies upon the completion of their leases.

—break—

Regarding retrofitting mint 2.0, I’ve heard it asked, and the answer has always been something along the lines of “we don’t have plans to do it, especially as our capex is still limited, but we are always evaluating our product.”

I hope they will do a mid-life cabin refresh and put the new NEO seats/IFE/FlyFi in them (as well as in the core 321s and phase 1 320s). But I’m not sure that there will be a huge (or any) ROI on it. Phase 1 320 and 321CEO mint/core product might just be “good enough.”

I’m guessing somewhere in 2023-25, profitability will be good, debt will be paid down, the balance sheet will be well on its way to being repaired, and I hope we see that sort of refresh. It would be nice to have a consistent interior product. But that also begs the question—will the 190s get some sort of mod, will they stay status quo with old, tired interiors…or will they exit the fleet.
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Thu May 06, 2021 10:25 pm

JoseSalazar wrote:
Sounds like a total of 116 will be done by end of year, last 3 in Q12022, and 11 never to be modded and then returned to leasing companies upon the completion of their leases.

—break—

Regarding retrofitting mint 2.0, I’ve heard it asked, and the answer has always been something along the lines of “we don’t have plans to do it, especially as our capex is still limited, but we are always evaluating our product.”

I hope they will do a mid-life cabin refresh and put the new NEO seats/IFE/FlyFi in them (as well as in the core 321s and phase 1 320s). But I’m not sure that there will be a huge (or any) ROI on it. Phase 1 320 and 321CEO mint/core product might just be “good enough.”

I’m guessing somewhere in 2023-25, profitability will be good, debt will be paid down, the balance sheet will be well on its way to being repaired, and I hope we see that sort of refresh. It would be nice to have a consistent interior product. But that also begs the question—will the 190s get some sort of mod, will they stay status quo with old, tired interiors…or will they exit the fleet.


Thanks for the update. That's good to know.

I'd think E90 is more in need of some sort of refurbishment if a good number of them are kept around until close to end of this decade. Small capex to keep increasing their fleet size.

They are scheduled to 65 A321s + A220s over 2023/2024. That sounds like a lot, but all the un-modded A320s probably will be returned during by end of 2024 I don't see how they can also return/retire most of the E90s without completely stopping growth. I guess they could buy some used A320s, but there is cost to bringing that in also. So, my guess is having a subfleet of 30 E90s that will be around past 2025 that will need to be refurbished.
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Thu May 06, 2021 10:49 pm

tphuang wrote:
JoseSalazar wrote:
Sounds like a total of 116 will be done by end of year, last 3 in Q12022, and 11 never to be modded and then returned to leasing companies upon the completion of their leases.

—break—

Regarding retrofitting mint 2.0, I’ve heard it asked, and the answer has always been something along the lines of “we don’t have plans to do it, especially as our capex is still limited, but we are always evaluating our product.”

I hope they will do a mid-life cabin refresh and put the new NEO seats/IFE/FlyFi in them (as well as in the core 321s and phase 1 320s). But I’m not sure that there will be a huge (or any) ROI on it. Phase 1 320 and 321CEO mint/core product might just be “good enough.”

I’m guessing somewhere in 2023-25, profitability will be good, debt will be paid down, the balance sheet will be well on its way to being repaired, and I hope we see that sort of refresh. It would be nice to have a consistent interior product. But that also begs the question—will the 190s get some sort of mod, will they stay status quo with old, tired interiors…or will they exit the fleet.


Thanks for the update. That's good to know.

I'd think E90 is more in need of some sort of refurbishment if a good number of them are kept around until close to end of this decade. Small capex to keep increasing their fleet size.

They are scheduled to 65 A321s + A220s over 2023/2024. That sounds like a lot, but all the un-modded A320s probably will be returned during by end of 2024 I don't see how they can also return/retire most of the E90s without completely stopping growth. I guess they could buy some used A320s, but there is cost to bringing that in also. So, my guess is having a subfleet of 30 E90s that will be around past 2025 that will need to be refurbished.


I’ve written in to the powers that be about refreshing the 321CEOs (core & mint), phase 1 320s and E190s (if they stay) to include updating the carpets/galley floor, lighting (LEDs/mood lights), bulkhead designs, seat covers, and upgrading the WiFi to match the NEO, 220s and phase 2 320s as closely as possible without having to do a complete refurbish. I’m not sure if they can upgrade the IFE without ripping out the old one in favor of the AVANT system (same with WiFi). I do think that the Live TV4 Thats found on the 321CEOs is still a good system, but can be buggy at times.

I think this mid life refresh would do wonders from a product and consistency stand point. Unfortunately I didn’t hear anything back, but I at least put it out there!
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Tue May 11, 2021 3:40 pm

A B6 A320 was damaged while under tow at Lax when the towbar broke sending the Tug into the aircraft. Unknown which tail number it is.

https://twitter.com/breakingavnews/stat ... 77507?s=21
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Tue May 11, 2021 4:44 pm

N593JB was the plane damaged
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Sun May 16, 2021 3:13 pm

N597JB is scheduled to come back today from SAL with N625JB filling the spot which is already on its way.
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Mon May 17, 2021 1:25 am

FARmd90 wrote:
N597JB is scheduled to come back today from SAL with N625JB filling the spot which is already on its way.


Yup, N597JB departed and N625JB is in the hangar.

N507JT (already modified) is scheduled to depart on 5/19 with N615JB replacing it. N537JT, N566JB, N618JB and N703JB will also all depart with the next 10 days. I think N703JB will leave SAL the same day I do, 5/26.
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Mon May 17, 2021 2:44 am

B6JFKH81 wrote:
FARmd90 wrote:
N597JB is scheduled to come back today from SAL with N625JB filling the spot which is already on its way.


Yup, N597JB departed and N625JB is in the hangar.

N507JT (already modified) is scheduled to depart on 5/19 with N615JB replacing it. N537JT, N566JB, N618JB and N703JB will also all depart with the next 10 days. I think N703JB will leave SAL the same day I do, 5/26.

Hi just wondering if you got any updates on how many units will not get refurbished and how much service time they got left?
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Mon May 17, 2021 3:32 am

N624JB wrote:
JoseSalazar wrote:

Not final til you are getting on the plane.


Just had this happen to me about a week ago. 580 and 534 were at two gates side by side, and I was scheduled for 534. About 15 mins before boarding, my gate changed, and I was swapped to 580 last minute. You never know what could change.

Apologies if this is a double post, still trying to figure things out.


OT, however somewhat relatable to the tail number comment.

Many years ago, when I was on the ramp in ISP, B6 sent in an A320 for a charter. As everyone knows its rare to see B6 in ISP. I drove over to the FBO, still in my uniform and asked if I can take a peak inside of it, I even got to sit in the cockpit and take a picture. N624JB was the bird, and it was my first time ever inside an Airbus. :D
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Wed May 19, 2021 6:28 pm

tphuang wrote:
B6JFKH81 wrote:
FARmd90 wrote:
N597JB is scheduled to come back today from SAL with N625JB filling the spot which is already on its way.


Yup, N597JB departed and N625JB is in the hangar.

N507JT (already modified) is scheduled to depart on 5/19 with N615JB replacing it. N537JT, N566JB, N618JB and N703JB will also all depart with the next 10 days. I think N703JB will leave SAL the same day I do, 5/26.


Hi just wondering if you got any updates on how many units will not get refurbished and how much service time they got left?


11 will not receive the modification. Retirements will begin sometime in 2023 if I remember correctly. It will all have to do with the lease-back terms that were reached. Obviously I cannot release too much information as I honestly don't know what has been made public or not, and don't have the time to research it at the moment.
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Wed May 19, 2021 6:31 pm

SXDFC wrote:
N624JB wrote:
JoseSalazar wrote:

Not final til you are getting on the plane.


Just had this happen to me about a week ago. 580 and 534 were at two gates side by side, and I was scheduled for 534. About 15 mins before boarding, my gate changed, and I was swapped to 580 last minute. You never know what could change.

Apologies if this is a double post, still trying to figure things out.


OT, however somewhat relatable to the tail number comment.

Many years ago, when I was on the ramp in ISP, B6 sent in an A320 for a charter. As everyone knows its rare to see B6 in ISP. I drove over to the FBO, still in my uniform and asked if I can take a peak inside of it, I even got to sit in the cockpit and take a picture. N624JB was the bird, and it was my first time ever inside an Airbus. :D


I'll bring it back on topic for you. N624JB should be coming in for new interior within a week. N624JB replaces N537JT which is in final stages, probably flying out on 5/22 if all goes well. So N624JB will be a new bird inside by the end of June. :-)
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Wed May 19, 2021 7:22 pm

Have their been any more photos released of the new Airspace interior, other than the initial few promo shots released by JetBlue themselves? Am looking forward to a comprehensive photo/video tour of the aircraft if any exist.
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Thu May 20, 2021 2:30 am

B6JFKH81 wrote:
SXDFC wrote:
N624JB wrote:

Just had this happen to me about a week ago. 580 and 534 were at two gates side by side, and I was scheduled for 534. About 15 mins before boarding, my gate changed, and I was swapped to 580 last minute. You never know what could change.

Apologies if this is a double post, still trying to figure things out.


OT, however somewhat relatable to the tail number comment.

Many years ago, when I was on the ramp in ISP, B6 sent in an A320 for a charter. As everyone knows its rare to see B6 in ISP. I drove over to the FBO, still in my uniform and asked if I can take a peak inside of it, I even got to sit in the cockpit and take a picture. N624JB was the bird, and it was my first time ever inside an Airbus. :D


I'll bring it back on topic for you. N624JB should be coming in for new interior within a week. N624JB replaces N537JT which is in final stages, probably flying out on 5/22 if all goes well. So N624JB will be a new bird inside by the end of June. :-)


That’s great to hear! She was looking pretty tired back in 2018, can’t imagine what she looks like now, at 14 years of the same interior. Still, could be worse (503….)
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Tue May 25, 2021 2:47 pm

Phase 1; 20/20 100% Complete
646JB-Complete-Bravo Lima Uniform Echo
568JB-Complete-Blue Sapphire
570JB-Complete-Devil With A Blue Dress On
556JB-Complete-Betty Blue
571JB-Complete-Blue Monday
621JB-Complete-Do Be Do Be Blue
579JB-Complete-Can’t Stop Lovin’ Blue
580JB-Complete-Mo’ Better Blue
627JB-Complete-A Friend Like Blue
529JB-Complete-Ole Blue Eyes
632JB-Complete-Bear Force One (Boston Bruins)
629JB-Complete-Bright Light, Blue City
653JB-Complete-Breath of Fresh Blue
510JB-Complete-Out Of The Blue
595JB-Complete-Lucky Blue (Boston Celtics)
558JB-Complete-Song Sung Blue
641JB-Complete-Blue Come Back Now Ya Hear?
634JB-Complete-B*L*U*E
534JB-Complete-Bada Bing, Bada Blue
598JB-Complete-Bluemanity

Phase 2; 70/110 63% Complete
70/99 70%*

729JB-Complete-If You Can Read This, You’re Blue Close
763JB-Complete-What’s Old is Blue Again (Retrojet)
591JB-Complete-Tail Of Blue Cities
766JB-Complete-Etay Luebay
594JB-Complete-Whole Lotta Blue
760JB-Complete-The Blues Were Made For Flying
552JB-Complete-Blue Jay
605JB-Complete-Boston Red Sox
644JB-Complete-Blue Loves Ya Baby
527JL-Complete-Blue Bayou
564JB-Complete-Absolute Blue
768JB-Complete-Blue Crew
643JB-Complete-Blue Jersey
586JB-Complete-I <3 Blue York
607JB-Complete-Beantown Blue
561JB-Complete-La Vie En Blue
775JB-Complete-Vets in Blue
563JB-Complete-Blue Chip
606JB-Complete-Idlewild Blue
779JB-Complete-Bluericua
665JB-Complete-Something About Blue
583JB-Complete-Bluesville
585JB-Complete-I Got Blue Babe
636JB-Complete-All Wrapped Up In Blue
796JB-Complete-100% Blue
651JB-Complete-I’m Having A Blue Moment
649JB-Complete-Fancy Meeting Blue Here
827JB-Complete-It Takes Blue to Tango (WL)
705JB-Complete-Big Blue People Seater
612JB-Complete-Blue Look Maahvelous
652JB-Complete-Out With Old In With The Blue
531JL-Complete-Blue Finest (NYPD paint)
565JB-Complete-Bippity Boppity Blue
547JB-Complete-Forever Blue
608JB-Complete-...And Along Came Blue
615JB-Complete-Blue Bravest (NYFD paint)
805JB-Complete-You Had Me At Blue (WL)
569JB-Complete-Blues Brothers
648JB-Complete-Hasta La Vista (Vacations Special 1 of 3)
554JB-Complete-Sacre’ Bleu!
507JT-Complete-Blue Crew (Oldest 320 so far)
508JL-Complete-May The Force Be With Blue
587JB-Complete-Blue Kid In Town
618JB-Complete-Can’t Get Enough Of Blue
526JL-Complete-Blues Just Want To Have Fun
655JB-Complete-Blue 100
623JB-Complete-Playa-Way With Me (Vacations Special 2 of 3)
708JB-Complete-All That And A Bag Of Blue Chips (WL)
789JB-Complete-What’s Blue And Flies All Over?
784JB-Complete-Blue Infinity And Beyond!
588JB-Complete-Hopelessly Devoted To Blue
589JB-Complete-Blue Skies Ahead
590JB-Complete-Liberty Blue
645JB-Complete-Blues Have More Fun
613JB-Complete-Bahama Blue
603JB-Complete-To Beach Their Own(Vacations paint 3 of 3)
746JB-Complete-Go Jets! (New York Jets Special)
793JB-Complete-My Other Ride Is a JetBlue E190
663JB-Complete-Paint the Town Blue
562JB-Complete-The Name Is Blue, JetBlue
592JB-Complete-American Blue
656JB-Complete-California Blue
509JB-Complete-True Blue
535JB-Complete-Estrella Azul
834JB-Complete-Keep Blue and Carry On(WL)(Youngest 320)
828JB-Complete-It Takes Blue to Tango (WL)
640JB-Complete-Blue Better Believe It
597JB-Complete-For The Love Of Blue
566JB-Complete-Blue Suede Shoes
537JT-Complete-Red, White & Blue
703JB-In Progress ferried MZJ-SAL 05/02
625JB-In Progress ferried MCO-SAL 05/16
624JB-In Progress ferried MCO-SAL 05/25
Total Complete: 90/130 69%.
90/119 75%**

(WL)= Plane is equipped with Sharklets. Sharklet mods are not happening with no plans to restart it.

Note: * and ** Both reflect the totals with the 11 planes taken out that as of now will not be getting the refurbished.
Those tails are believed to be 503-506, 516,517,519,520,521,523, and 524.
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Thu May 27, 2021 1:43 am

29 to go... they've come a hell of a long way with this considering the last 12-18 months. if they are doing 3 at a time and they take about a month. that's about 10 months, so last one should be March next year. Or is the plan to accelerate and get them done by the end of the year.
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Thu May 27, 2021 5:54 am

VS4ever wrote:
29 to go... they've come a hell of a long way with this considering the last 12-18 months. if they are doing 3 at a time and they take about a month. that's about 10 months, so last one should be March next year. Or is the plan to accelerate and get them done by the end of the year.

I believe it’s 4 mod lines running concurrently.
 
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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Sun May 30, 2021 2:08 pm

Just curious as to why N652JB was ferried from MCO-VQQ (Cecil Airport Jacksonville) this morning. Looks like the crew is picking up N612JB immediately after landing and heading back to MCO before operating the LAX nonstop at noon.

I'm assuming it's a maintenance facility, but curious as to what service they provide? New paint possibly?

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Re: Jetblue A320 refurbish thread

Sun May 30, 2021 3:32 pm

N593JB, damaged in the towing incident at LAX on May 9th, flew to SAL on May 27th. Was it ferried for more thorough repairs?

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