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Re: First Cabin Photos of Delta's Airbus A220

Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:44 pm

What about the “dread” on their 739’s? Lol....
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Re: First Cabin Photos of Delta's Airbus A220

Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:08 pm

Are DL going for the wider Y seats that BBD was boasting about - 18,5 inches for window and aisle seats and 19 inches for the middle seat (making the A220 more comfy than the B737's 17,3 inch wide Y seat)?

The A220-100 looks well-proportioned in Delta's livery, love the dark blue engines.

They roll out the red carpet and then send them through the smaller service door (1R) into the galley.
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:38 pm

Photos direct from Delta here: https://news.delta.com/photos-delta-s-n ... -travelers
Looks great! The lavatory has a window and looks very bright!
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:58 pm

The A220 is such a sharp airplane on the outside. I'd go so far as to say it's the best-looking Airbus!

On the inside, the Delta bits look nice, but the Bombardier bits look a bit spartan. Boeing and Airbus interiors look a bit more finished IMO.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:35 pm

I wonder how the First Class seat measurements compare with the MD88/90 and A3XX and B7XX seats? I notice the extra room right away going from an MD to the B or A.
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Re: First Cabin Photos of Delta's Airbus A220

Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:09 am

flyguy84 wrote:
What about the “dread” on their 739’s? Lol....


Have you been on one? I have, ATL-SEA, in regular economy. I'm 6'4" and seat comfort wasn't bad at all. I do prefer the shoulder width of an Airbus, and IIRC the lav is a little tight. But it's waaaay better than AA's new A319's or MAX'es. I think the "dread" of a 739 is overstated here on a.net.

I am really looking forward to trying out the A220 though - especially given the 2-seat side will now live on past the Mad Dog.
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Re: First Cabin Photos of Delta's Airbus A220

Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:21 am

dennypayne wrote:
Have you been on one? I have, ATL-SEA, in regular economy. I'm 6'4" and seat comfort wasn't bad at all. I do prefer the shoulder width of an Airbus, and IIRC the lav is a little tight. But it's waaaay better than AA's new A319's or MAX'es. I think the "dread" of a 739 is overstated here on a.net.

I am really looking forward to trying out the A220 though - especially given the 2-seat side will now live on past the Mad Dog.


I have. It's tight with a terrible bathroom config. Definitely not an aircraft I go out of my way to fly.

The only significant difference between a DL 739 and AA MAX 8 is an IFE screen (DL 739 has one more inch of pitch in Y+). The difference between a DL 739 and AA A319 is even more negligible. Since you say you prefer the added width of the Airbus, you should prefer the AVOD A319s from AA over a DL 739.

Calling a DL 739 way better over virtually identical (or better in your words) products isn't a good sign for your objectivity.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:10 am

lightsaber wrote:
tomcat wrote:
Quotes from the link in the OP:
"“We need to find something that’s going to be more fuel efficient, something that’s going to create a greater range, and a greater bandwidth of options and the CSeries (A220) fit the bill,” he said.

While the Boeing 717 is a quality aircraft and Delta paid pennies on the dollar for them (most Delta 717s are former AirTran aircraft on lease from Southwest Airlines), it does lack the range for many domestic missions.

The A220-100, on the other hand, offers over double the range of the Boeing 717 (1,415 miles vs. 3,100 miles) at highly efficient numbers. For Delta, this means the A220-100 can easily operate many missions the 717 cannot.

The A220-100 will also allow Delta to operate smaller narrow-body aircraft on “short and thin” routes"" (end of quote from the link)

Considering that Delta currently operates 91 Boeing 717 and that they plan to operate the A220 on a greater variety of missions than the 717, it seems reasonable to expect that Delta will eventually operate much more than 75 A220. Even the current 50 options seem rather conservative.

If the A220 meets promise, I fully expect more A220s for expansion and eventually 717 replacement. The 717 is a great plane except for engine maintenance and fuel burn (both to be expected from it's role, era, and hand me down architecture).

I also fully expect as many threads on 717 replacement as the NW/DL DC-9 retirement.

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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:30 am

The A220 looks beautiful inside and out. Also, I like Delta's commitment to providing seat back IFE even on short/medium haul aircraft while UA and AA seem to be moving towards only providing app-based streaming entertainment. Even though I usually download a few movies or tv shows to my phone before I fly, it's always nice to have different options or a backup built into the seat in case something happens to my device.

By the way, what's up with the 'C Series' placard at the door? Will it be removed at some point? Airbus undoubtedly spent a lot of money and effort re-branding the plane so it seems odd that they'd allow the C Series name to appear so prominently on such an important delivery.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:55 am

The bathroom is enormous, almost looks like twice the size of that AA disaster on their 737's.

Dallas and Houston - major hubs for AA and UA - will be early to get multiple routes. Asked whether early use of the A220 on LGA-DFW is intended to flaunt the aircraft in the face of American, Bastian said, "we dont flaunt anything in the face of our competitors. Were doing this for our customers.
 
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Re: First Cabin Photos of Delta's Airbus A220

Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:20 am

MSPNWA wrote:
Calling a DL 739 way better over virtually identical (or better in your words) products isn't a good sign for your objectivity.


You of all people are criticizing someone else's objectivity over Delta?

:rotfl:

The A220 looks great. That should be a nice plane to fly. Sad the MD88s are going, but this is definitely a step in the right direction.
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Re: First Cabin Photos of Delta's Airbus A220

Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:49 am

MSPNWA wrote:
dennypayne wrote:
Have you been on one? I have, ATL-SEA, in regular economy. I'm 6'4" and seat comfort wasn't bad at all. I do prefer the shoulder width of an Airbus, and IIRC the lav is a little tight. But it's waaaay better than AA's new A319's or MAX'es. I think the "dread" of a 739 is overstated here on a.net.

I am really looking forward to trying out the A220 though - especially given the 2-seat side will now live on past the Mad Dog.


I have. It's tight with a terrible bathroom config. Definitely not an aircraft I go out of my way to fly.

The only significant difference between a DL 739 and AA MAX 8 is an IFE screen (DL 739 has one more inch of pitch in Y+). The difference between a DL 739 and AA A319 is even more negligible. Since you say you prefer the added width of the Airbus, you should prefer the AVOD A319s from AA over a DL 739.

Calling a DL 739 way better over virtually identical (or better in your words) products isn't a good sign for your objectivity.


I agree with you usually having to ride on from ORD, EWR, or IAD on my way to the westcoast from Europe. Bad seats, seemingly endless cabin, and seat width not concurrent with American frames.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:44 pm

Looks like training flights have started. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N101DU Hope they come to CVG like they did with the A350s.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:52 pm

Can someone post a photo of the lavatory....I can't seem to find it
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:13 pm

TropicalSky wrote:
Can someone post a photo of the lavatory....I can't seem to find it


Image

I swear I saw a picture of a DL A220 Lav with a window in it. I wish I could find that picture.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:18 pm

If there are any spotters in DFW this plane is scheduled to be in town tomorrow with a scheduled arrival time of 9:58am.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:12 pm

I bought a ticket on the LGA-BOS "inaugural." I live in Nashville, tho, so we'll see if I make it up to New York in January just to take a 45-minute flight.

Speaking of which, I put "inaugural" in quotation marks because I still remain pessimistic that this will be anything more than the first flight with revenue passengers from the general public. An 0600 departure for a less-than-200-mile flight is not very media/marketing friendly. I can easily seem them doing an official "first flight" the afternoon before for media and doing celebration activities then. I'm happy to be proved wrong, though.
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:19 pm

Since the A220 is going to be flown from LGA to IAH and DFW, how does UA/AA compete with this? IFE at every seat, widest seat with the most pitch, cabin mood lighting, a bathroom that is actually quite roomy and with a window! I mean, what seems like a very modest and economically sound purchase can wind up winning DL new corporate customers from the competition.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:45 pm

jumbojet wrote:
Since the A220 is going to be flown from LGA to IAH and DFW, how does UA/AA compete with this? IFE at every seat, widest seat with the most pitch, cabin mood lighting, a bathroom that is actually quite roomy and with a window! I mean, what seems like a very modest and economically sound purchase can wind up winning DL new corporate customers from the competition.


Because not everyone buys a ticket based on product.....AA will still have a superior schedule between NYC and DFW as would UA to IAH...plus there are many die-hard AAdvantage and Mileage Plus members who rather deal with an OK product then completely switch... And if a lot of the traffic in these markets is skewed towards DFW or IAH point of sale, AA and UA will still have the advantage, etc.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:46 pm

dbo861 wrote:
TropicalSky wrote:
Can someone post a photo of the lavatory....I can't seem to find it


Image

I swear I saw a picture of a DL A220 Lav with a window in it. I wish I could find that picture.


For your viewing pleasure: https://www.flickr.com/photos/deltanews ... 089004100/
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:25 pm

panamair wrote:
[Because not everyone buys a ticket based on product......


I agree not everyone but there are plenty of those that will. It takes just a few important people to start a domino effect. Obviously AA and UA will still fill their planes but they will be at a clear disadvantage.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:08 am

This lavatory looks amazing with all that natural light coming in....makes someone feel like their home @ FL360


dmorbust wrote:
dbo861 wrote:
TropicalSky wrote:
Can someone post a photo of the lavatory....I can't seem to find it


Image

I swear I saw a picture of a DL A220 Lav with a window in it. I wish I could find that picture.


For your viewing pleasure: https://www.flickr.com/photos/deltanews ... 089004100/
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:39 am

dbo861 wrote:
TropicalSky wrote:
Can someone post a photo of the lavatory....I can't seem to find it


Image

I swear I saw a picture of a DL A220 Lav with a window in it. I wish I could find that picture.

Wow, that is one fancy lav, and a big one at that especially when compared to that of the 737MAX... or so it looks to be
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:07 pm

How many A220s are scheduled to be delivered in the next year?
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:11 pm

evank516 wrote:
How many A220s are scheduled to be delivered in the next year?

I think the first 4 frames will have entered the fleet when the inaugural happens in January. The first one (N101DU) has been undergoing test flights yesterday and today.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:15 pm

NateGreat wrote:
evank516 wrote:
How many A220s are scheduled to be delivered in the next year?

I think the first 4 frames will have entered the fleet when the inaugural happens in January. The first one (N101DU) has been undergoing test flights yesterday and today.


Are there anymore deliveries scheduled throughout 2019?
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:37 pm

evank516 wrote:
NateGreat wrote:
evank516 wrote:
How many A220s are scheduled to be delivered in the next year?

I think the first 4 frames will have entered the fleet when the inaugural happens in January. The first one (N101DU) has been undergoing test flights yesterday and today.


Are there anymore deliveries scheduled throughout 2019?

Most likely. Just not sure how many.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:42 pm

evank516 wrote:
NateGreat wrote:
evank516 wrote:
How many A220s are scheduled to be delivered in the next year?

I think the first 4 frames will have entered the fleet when the inaugural happens in January. The first one (N101DU) has been undergoing test flights yesterday and today.


Are there anymore deliveries scheduled throughout 2019?

20+ assuming BBD can actually do it.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:48 pm

N415XJ wrote:
The A220 looks beautiful inside and out. Also, I like Delta's commitment to providing seat back IFE even on short/medium haul aircraft while UA and AA seem to be moving towards only providing app-based streaming entertainment. Even though I usually download a few movies or tv shows to my phone before I fly, it's always nice to have different options or a backup built into the seat in case something happens to my device.

By the way, what's up with the 'C Series' placard at the door? Will it be removed at some point? Airbus undoubtedly spent a lot of money and effort re-branding the plane so it seems odd that they'd allow the C Series name to appear so prominently on such an important delivery.


Airlines can choose what to call this aircraft if I recall correctly.
To me, it will always be:
- Bombardier CSeries
- Airbus A321neoLR and A321neoXLR
- EMBRACER ERJ-170, ERJ-175, ERJ-190, and ERJ-195
- MITSUBUSHI MRJ

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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:51 pm

panamair wrote:
jumbojet wrote:
Since the A220 is going to be flown from LGA to IAH and DFW, how does UA/AA compete with this? IFE at every seat, widest seat with the most pitch, cabin mood lighting, a bathroom that is actually quite roomy and with a window! I mean, what seems like a very modest and economically sound purchase can wind up winning DL new corporate customers from the competition.


Because not everyone buys a ticket based on product.....AA will still have a superior schedule between NYC and DFW as would UA to IAH...plus there are many die-hard AAdvantage and Mileage Plus members who rather deal with an OK product then completely switch... And if a lot of the traffic in these markets is skewed towards DFW or IAH point of sale, AA and UA will still have the advantage, etc.


I think the IAH and DFW routes are competing for New York originating marketshare. AA and WN have Dallas locked up, and UA and WN have Houston locked up. But the A220 makes DL even more competitive in New York. I think this is why, after the original plan to base the possible DL E190 fleet in SEA, they moved the small jet to New York once the ditched the mainline EJet and went with the CSeries.
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:02 pm

That's a good looking aircraft. Can't wait for it to come through KPSP!
 
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Re: Delta Takes Delivery Of First Airbus A220-100

Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:03 pm

NateGreat wrote:
evank516 wrote:
NateGreat wrote:
I think the first 4 frames will have entered the fleet when the inaugural happens in January. The first one (N101DU) has been undergoing test flights yesterday and today.


Are there anymore deliveries scheduled throughout 2019?

Most likely. Just not sure how many.


Okay, thanks!

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