Australian Aviation Thread - November 2018

ben175 · Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:16 am

I’m about to use QF points to try MU in F PVG-LHR - the taxes do come to around $700 but I figured it’s better than paying fifteen times that price for a full fare.

The same route on BA had taxes in the thousands. Ridiculous.

qf789 · Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:26 am

Yesterday's VA694 PER-MEL operated by VH-XFH diverted to ADL. As it landed in ADL around curfew time it overnighted in ADL. Just departed ADL and positioning to MEL. Today's VA677 is currently experiencing a delay of around 7 hours, ETD is now 1410

Velocity7 · Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:39 am

waoz1 wrote:
I know its a bit of a first world problem.

However was thinking of using my VA points to Europe in business as I have a few.
Used to get a heap of FFlyers with SQ in both directions any time of the year, now nothing at all any time of the year.
Interesting tho I can book say Perth-Singapore, Singapore-London separate sectors using a heap more points and only ones that come up are EY via BNE,SYD,MEL (30+ hours)

Are VA points becoming worthless? or do people just use them for Domestic travel?
I have found QF to be a bit easier to use.

I only use VA points for upgrades on International flights now. I can never find the right flights for a full points redemption ticket. I am VA Platinum and I travel to New York 3-4 times per year and have always snagged a points upgrade from PE when I've requested it. Try to book a J seat on points though - nigh impossible!

VHZNE · Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:11 pm

ZNH has been delivered and is on the way to MEL. ETA is around 2300L tonight. I’m not aware of the name yet.

brucetiki · Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:01 am

Suspicious package identified at ADL today, resulting in a partial terminal closure. Package now deemed safe and the airport is returning to normal operations.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-22/ ... t/10542896

Qantas16 · Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:43 am

Any updates on the new VA lounge at BNE International? Wasn't it meant to be open soon?

VHZNE · Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:04 am

VHZNE wrote:
ZNH has been delivered and is on the way to MEL. ETA is around 2300L tonight. I’m not aware of the name yet.

Named 'Great Barrier Reef'

smi0006 · Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:33 am

Qantas16 wrote:
Any updates on the new VA lounge at BNE International? Wasn't it meant to be open soon?

I thought construction wasn’t due to finish until the end of 19?

Any idea when QF start on SYD and AKL lounges?

AVB · Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:32 pm

Looks like a fiasco at Newcastle Airport tonight. Virgin Australia’s inaugural flight from Auckland was delayed a few hours and now the departure from Newcastle is rescheduled to depart tomorrow at 12.15pm. Something went wrong, very wrong.

eta unknown · Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:34 pm

Doesn't matter now- they already bagged the airport award lol

NTLDaz · Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:36 pm

eta unknown wrote:
Doesn't matter now- they already bagged the airport award lol

Unfortunately there are some very serious bushfires happening near the airport.

Apparently the inbound flight suffered a lightning strike as well.

There have been pretty severe winds up here and Sydney which brought a pretty nasty dust storm as well.

DeltaB717 · Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:15 pm

NTLDaz wrote:
eta unknown wrote:
Doesn't matter now- they already bagged the airport award lol

Unfortunately there are some very serious bushfires happening near the airport.

Apparently the inbound flight suffered a lightning strike as well.

There have been pretty severe winds up here and Sydney which brought a pretty nasty dust storm as well.

Yep, and a whole range of other disruptions around the network as well (most of which probably had little to no direct impact on the NTL-AKL flight, to be fair). Yesterday was a horrible day for airline ops. I think it's fair to say the delay to this particular flight was out of the airline's control and probably shouldn't be held against them, or cause for people to laugh at them. Fair play!

MooLor · Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:16 pm

NTLDaz wrote:
eta unknown wrote:
Doesn't matter now- they already bagged the airport award lol

Unfortunately there are some very serious bushfires happening near the airport.

Apparently the inbound flight suffered a lightning strike as well.

There have been pretty severe winds up here and Sydney which brought a pretty nasty dust storm as well.

Local media are reporting SYD is down to one runway due to the strong winds, with significant delays.

I've just watched QF12 / A380 on FR24 land on the east/west runway. That runway is 2530m according to the SYD website, compared to the main north/south runway's 3960m. Quite a few lined up for the runway too, should be an interesting day.

NTLDaz · Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:46 pm

MooLor wrote:
NTLDaz wrote:
eta unknown wrote:
Doesn't matter now- they already bagged the airport award lol

Unfortunately there are some very serious bushfires happening near the airport.

Apparently the inbound flight suffered a lightning strike as well.

There have been pretty severe winds up here and Sydney which brought a pretty nasty dust storm as well.

Local media are reporting SYD is down to one runway due to the strong winds, with significant delays.

I've just watched QF12 / A380 on FR24 land on the east/west runway. That runway is 2530m according to the SYD website, compared to the main north/south runway's 3960m. Quite a few lined up for the runway too, should be an interesting day.

MEL as well I believe. Going to be a chaotic day across the network.

NTL have advised people to leave early to get to the Airport due to traffic chaos due to the bushfires.

Big day for NTL yesterday- Renee Lawrence coming home into a media scrum, people arriving for the car races and first international flight in decades. Combine that with the crazy winds and bushfires would have led to a busy day.

MooLor · Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:57 pm

NTLDaz wrote:
MooLor wrote:
NTLDaz wrote:

Unfortunately there are some very serious bushfires happening near the airport.

Apparently the inbound flight suffered a lightning strike as well.

There have been pretty severe winds up here and Sydney which brought a pretty nasty dust storm as well.

Local media are reporting SYD is down to one runway due to the strong winds, with significant delays.

I've just watched QF12 / A380 on FR24 land on the east/west runway. That runway is 2530m according to the SYD website, compared to the main north/south runway's 3960m. Quite a few lined up for the runway too, should be an interesting day.

MEL as well I believe. Going to be a chaotic day across the network.

NTL have advised people to leave early to get to the Airport due to traffic chaos due to the bushfires.

Big day for NTL yesterday- Renee Lawrence coming home into a media scrum, people arriving for the car races and first international flight in decades. Combine that with the crazy winds and bushfires would have led to a busy day.

That must have been NTL I seen on the TV news then, where Renee bowled over a photographer as she made a dash. The terminal looked a lot bigger than I imagined NTL to be, if it was NTL.

And Renee looks like she could play in the front row for the Knights.

Cool video of the Canadian (?) 737 water tanker here at the Hunter bushfire: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-23/nsw-bushfire-emergency-continues/10546646. I heard somewhere NSW are buying their own same / similar tanker/s, so we should see these around the country more often in the future.

qf789 · Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:43 am

DeltaB717 wrote:
NTLDaz wrote:
eta unknown wrote:
Doesn't matter now- they already bagged the airport award lol

Unfortunately there are some very serious bushfires happening near the airport.

Apparently the inbound flight suffered a lightning strike as well.

There have been pretty severe winds up here and Sydney which brought a pretty nasty dust storm as well.

Yep, and a whole range of other disruptions around the network as well (most of which probably had little to no direct impact on the NTL-AKL flight, to be fair). Yesterday was a horrible day for airline ops. I think it's fair to say the delay to this particular flight was out of the airline's control and probably shouldn't be held against them, or cause for people to laugh at them. Fair play!

There was an upline delay on the previous flight prior to the AKL-NTL flight

qf789 · Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:48 am

NTLDaz wrote:
MooLor wrote:
NTLDaz wrote:

Unfortunately there are some very serious bushfires happening near the airport.

Apparently the inbound flight suffered a lightning strike as well.

There have been pretty severe winds up here and Sydney which brought a pretty nasty dust storm as well.

Local media are reporting SYD is down to one runway due to the strong winds, with significant delays.

I've just watched QF12 / A380 on FR24 land on the east/west runway. That runway is 2530m according to the SYD website, compared to the main north/south runway's 3960m. Quite a few lined up for the runway too, should be an interesting day.

MEL as well I believe. Going to be a chaotic day across the network.

NTL have advised people to leave early to get to the Airport due to traffic chaos due to the bushfires.

Big day for NTL yesterday- Renee Lawrence coming home into a media scrum, people arriving for the car races and first international flight in decades. Combine that with the crazy winds and bushfires would have led to a busy day.

Due to the one runway ops departure/arrival slots have been reduced resulting in many flight cancellations. VA has also cancelled this morning's MEL-PER-MEL flight so the A332 can be used on MEL-SYD-MEL instead

tullamarine · Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:34 am

qf789 wrote:
NTLDaz wrote:
MooLor wrote:

Local media are reporting SYD is down to one runway due to the strong winds, with significant delays.

I've just watched QF12 / A380 on FR24 land on the east/west runway. That runway is 2530m according to the SYD website, compared to the main north/south runway's 3960m. Quite a few lined up for the runway too, should be an interesting day.

MEL as well I believe. Going to be a chaotic day across the network.

NTL have advised people to leave early to get to the Airport due to traffic chaos due to the bushfires.

Big day for NTL yesterday- Renee Lawrence coming home into a media scrum, people arriving for the car races and first international flight in decades. Combine that with the crazy winds and bushfires would have led to a busy day.

Due to the one runway ops departure/arrival slots have been reduced resulting in many flight cancellations. VA has also cancelled this morning's MEL-PER-MEL flight so the A332 can be used on MEL-SYD-MEL instead

I imagine last night's and today's weather has meant fleets and crews of both QF and VA are misplaced meaning delays are likely to continue throughout today and only resolved over the weekend when the greater downtime allows for repositioning or reallocating fleet from previously planned flights.

Australia's relatively benign weather means this is a fairly rare event. These types of delays are more common in US for example where winter snow in NE and low pressure systems in the south often mean delays in hubs which fan out throughout the major airlines' networks.

Velocity7 · Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:50 am

MooLor wrote:
The terminal looked a lot bigger than I imagined NTL to be, if it was NTL.

Possibly BNE? There was footage both from BNE and NTL of her arrival

NTLDaz · Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:48 am

Velocity7 wrote:
MooLor wrote:
The terminal looked a lot bigger than I imagined NTL to be, if it was NTL.

Possibly BNE? There was footage both from BNE and NTL of her arrival

If it was knocking over the cameraman inside the terminal it was Newcastle- then ran for a car.

tullamarine · Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:13 am

tullamarine wrote:
qf789 wrote:
NTLDaz wrote:

MEL as well I believe. Going to be a chaotic day across the network.

NTL have advised people to leave early to get to the Airport due to traffic chaos due to the bushfires.

Big day for NTL yesterday- Renee Lawrence coming home into a media scrum, people arriving for the car races and first international flight in decades. Combine that with the crazy winds and bushfires would have led to a busy day.

Due to the one runway ops departure/arrival slots have been reduced resulting in many flight cancellations. VA has also cancelled this morning's MEL-PER-MEL flight so the A332 can be used on MEL-SYD-MEL instead

I imagine last night's and today's weather has meant fleets and crews of both QF and VA are misplaced meaning delays are likely to continue throughout today and only resolved over the weekend when the greater downtime allows for repositioning or reallocating fleet from previously planned flights.

Australia's relatively benign weather means this is a fairly rare event. These types of delays are more common in US for example where winter snow in NE and low pressure systems in the south often mean delays in hubs which fan out throughout the major airlines' networks.

On top of wind in SYD, wet and windy weather in MEL hve conspired to give AU airlines a terrible day schedule wise. Most flights tonight in and out of MEL/SYD are running 2-3 hours late.

Obzerva · Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:26 am

So VA have updated their mobile app, to now include airport maps.

Including SYD and MEL that refer to the Etihad Lounge rather than the new branding, and HKG not including the HX lounge on the midfield concourse.

Not quite sure of the point of providing of customers with guides if the info at launch isn’t even accurate

qf789 · Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:28 pm

QF25 SYD-HND has diverted to BNE, looks like it may have been planned

a320fan · Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:09 pm

QF9 is really not that great of an offer for MEL based PAX,

Had to purchase a one way MEL-LHR for April. QF9, $1609
Went with Royal Brunei for $562, and the overall travel time is 40 minutes less than the QF option.

I'd expect better service offering on QF, but not over a $1000 better.

moa999 · Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:24 pm

Doubt you could be making money at $562 though. But $1000 is a lot of drinks

MooLor · Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:39 pm

a320fan wrote:
QF9 is really not that great of an offer for MEL based PAX,

Had to purchase a one way MEL-LHR for April. QF9, $1609
Went with Royal Brunei for $562, and the overall travel time is 40 minutes less than the QF option.

I'd expect better service offering on QF, but not over a $1000 better.

Remember the days when a one-way fare was something like 80% the cost of a return fare? From your numbers it sounds like QF is still pricing that way. Is that the norm?

I have only taken two fairly recent full service airline one-ways, on MH and on EK. Both fares were not much over 50% of a return fare - not the 'rack rate' return fare either, but the fare of the day. Both flights were into / from Asia though, perhaps they price those differently given LCCs are an option.

TasFlyer · Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:05 am

QF to increase HBA-SYD by three flights per week from April 1; seats go on sale Monday.

SYD-HBA 1345-1545 145
HBA-SYD 1625-???? 145

The services will provide better connections to the US and Asia.

No word yet on aircraft type, but given the announcement quotes 34,000 extra seats per year, a back-of-the-envelope calculation gives 34,000 seats per year divided by 52 weeks per year divided by 3 flights per week divided by 2 to account for inbound/outbound gives 109 seats per trip, so my guess is these services will be operated by 717s redeployed from DRW.

Qantas16 · Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:51 am

qf789 wrote:
QF25 SYD-HND has diverted to BNE, looks like it may have been planned

From a QLD spotters group on Facebook... story goes that there were 202 passengers onboard from SYD and an extra 156 joined in BNE who were initially meant to connect in SYD... So presumably those from MEL/CBR/PER etc that were initially going to fly to SYD and then HND got rerouted to BNE instead yesterday due to the delays in SYD. If that is true, its very smart planning from QF Operations.

Flyerqf · Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:49 am

QF15 is being operated by a 744 today, looks like the onward JFK leg will be operated by a 787 originating from MEL which strangely has had its A380 subbed to a 787 on QF93 today.

log0008 · Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:52 am

Qantas16 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
QF25 SYD-HND has diverted to BNE, looks like it may have been planned

From a QLD spotters group on Facebook... story goes that there were 202 passengers onboard from SYD and an extra 156 joined in BNE who were initially meant to connect in SYD... So presumably those from MEL/CBR/PER etc that were initially going to fly to SYD and then HND got rerouted to BNE instead yesterday due to the delays in SYD. If that is true, its very smart planning from QF Operations.

Correct however the majority of those 156 were a group (I believe business group) and they had effectively chartered a 737 for the BNE-SYD leg which would run as an extra flight (QF1324), this was cancelled due to the weather delays and thus the stop was made.

tullamarine · Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:36 am

Flyerqf wrote:
QF15 is being operated by a 744 today, looks like the onward JFK leg will be operated by a 787 originating from MEL which strangely has had its A380 subbed to a 787 on QF93 today.

Sounds like the delays experienced in MEL and SYD knocked onto the LAX flights. QF94 is being operated by 789 tonight. Aircraft operating QF94 usually operates QF35 to SIN after it arrives in MEL and QF93 is operated by the plane that arrived as QF36 from SIN. QF35 is still shown as a A380 tomorrow as is QF93 meaning another A380 somehow has to get into MEL.

I note OQD is currently returning from DXB after repaint and due to arrive into SYD tomorrow morning. Maybe it will be redirected to MEL to be the missing A380.

qf789 · Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:58 am

tullamarine wrote:
Flyerqf wrote:
QF15 is being operated by a 744 today, looks like the onward JFK leg will be operated by a 787 originating from MEL which strangely has had its A380 subbed to a 787 on QF93 today.

Sounds like the delays experienced in MEL and SYD knocked onto the LAX flights. QF94 is being operated by 789 tonight. Aircraft operating QF94 usually operates QF35 to SIN after it arrives in MEL and QF93 is operated by the plane that arrived as QF36 from SIN. QF35 is still shown as a A380 tomorrow as is QF93 meaning another A380 somehow has to get into MEL.

I note OQD is currently returning from DXB after repaint and due to arrive into SYD tomorrow morning. Maybe it will be redirected to MEL to be the missing A380.

It is unrelated to the weather events over the past day or so. The inbound QF16 arriving in BNE was a 744 and by the looks of it, it came at the expense of a QF55/56 rotation. The 789 that became available operated a QF94/93 rotation. A388's VH-OQB has been on the ground at LAX since Thursday, so perhaps either a maintenance issue or loads are a bit low atm, tonights QF94 arrival in MEL tomorrow morning is A388 not 789 equipment.

Yesterday's weather events in SYD and MEL caused last night's South African PER-JNB flight to be delayed by nearly 2 hours as there were passengers on inbound flights from the east coast

Dan23 · Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:01 pm

qf789 wrote:
It is unrelated to the weather events over the past day or so. The inbound QF16 arriving in BNE was a 744 and by the looks of it, it came at the expense of a QF55/56 rotation. The 789 that became available operated a QF94/93 rotation. A388's VH-OQB has been on the ground at LAX since Thursday, so perhaps either a maintenance issue or loads are a bit low atm, tonights QF94 arrival in MEL tomorrow morning is A388 not 789 equipment.

Yep, the changes to QF15/16/93/94 yesterday were all scheduled far in advance.

There has been excess 789 capacity all week with ZNG now in service. ZNC had been on the ground in MEL since Tuesday before operating QF93 on Saturday morning. There'll be even more downtime for the fleet this week before QF55/56 moves to 789 from 1/12.

waoz1 · Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:26 am

Works starting on elevated walkway from Perth terminal 1 to new train station due to open in 2020

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/perth/ ... 881030074z

TasFlyer · Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:28 am

An exciting day for HBA with QF744 OEJ landing in HBA tonight after the Antarctica scenic flight. The flight arrives on the NN ewly constructed wide-body bay. Unfortunately the aircraft could not take-off from HBA as originally planned as the runway failed QF's engineering inspection. Instead, passengers were first transported to MEL on 2 X 737s.

VapourTrails · Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:29 pm

TasFlyer wrote:
An exciting day for HBA with QF744 OEJ landing in HBA tonight after the Antarctica scenic flight. The flight arrives on the NN ewly constructed wide-body bay. Unfortunately the aircraft could not take-off from HBA as originally planned as the runway failed QF's engineering inspection. Instead, passengers were first transported to MEL on 2 X 737s.

An amazing experience! What a way to farewell my second and very likely last flight on a 747, The Queen of the Skies, with Wunala. Quite an emotional aside to the main feature, the vast ice and mountainous continent which also put on beautiful clear weather, quite the contrast to the cloudy and rainy HBA and cloudy MEL. Trip report planned 2019. My question is, was this the only ZZF Charter QF Antarctica Flight for HBA, given the original plan had to be altered, by flying via MEL?

QF41 · Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:14 pm

VapourTrails wrote:
TasFlyer wrote:
An exciting day for HBA with QF744 OEJ landing in HBA tonight after the Antarctica scenic flight. The flight arrives on the NN ewly constructed wide-body bay. Unfortunately the aircraft could not take-off from HBA as originally planned as the runway failed QF's engineering inspection. Instead, passengers were first transported to MEL on 2 X 737s.

An amazing experience! What a way to farewell my second and very likely last flight on a 747, The Queen of the Skies, with Wunala. Quite an emotional aside to the main feature, the vast ice and mountainous continent which also put on beautiful clear weather, quite the contrast to the cloudy and rainy HBA and cloudy MEL. Trip report planned 2019. My question is, was this the only ZZF Charter QF Antarctica Flight for HBA, given the original plan had to be altered, by flying via MEL?

I look forward to the trip report. As an ex hobartian, i wish i was at the airport to see the 747 tower over the terminal.

F100Flyer · Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:24 am

Qantas to crack down on oversized hang baggage on its busiest routes:

https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/qa ... 881032996z

Flyingdevil737 · Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:14 am

QF41 wrote:
VapourTrails wrote:
TasFlyer wrote:
An exciting day for HBA with QF744 OEJ landing in HBA tonight after the Antarctica scenic flight. The flight arrives on the NN ewly constructed wide-body bay. Unfortunately the aircraft could not take-off from HBA as originally planned as the runway failed QF's engineering inspection. Instead, passengers were first transported to MEL on 2 X 737s.

An amazing experience! What a way to farewell my second and very likely last flight on a 747, The Queen of the Skies, with Wunala. Quite an emotional aside to the main feature, the vast ice and mountainous continent which also put on beautiful clear weather, quite the contrast to the cloudy and rainy HBA and cloudy MEL. Trip report planned 2019. My question is, was this the only ZZF Charter QF Antarctica Flight for HBA, given the original plan had to be altered, by flying via MEL?

I look forward to the trip report. As an ex hobartian, i wish i was at the airport to see the 747 tower over the terminal.

God damn I missed it!!

qf789 · Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:14 am

Last night’s QF9 has been delayed by 25 hours due to bad weather in London, crew timed out hence the delay, I have read elsewhere that they were going to off load 40 passengers to take on extra fuel, can anyone confirm this?

The delayed QF10 will depart LHR tomorrow at 8am for an 830am arrival into PER on Thursday

A330freak · Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:48 am

From the Northern Summer scheduling season (31st March 2019), Qantas will retime QF117 (SYD-HKG) to a night departure (departing at 2220) however at this stage, QF118 has not been retimed, resulting in the aircraft sitting on the ground in HKG for most of the day.

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-shakes- ... ht-flights

tullamarine · Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:58 am

qf789 wrote:
Last night’s QF9 has been delayed by 25 hours due to bad weather in London, crew timed out hence the delay, I have read elsewhere that they were going to off load 40 passengers to take on extra fuel, can anyone confirm this?

The delayed QF10 will depart LHR tomorrow at 8am for an 830am arrival into PER on Thursday

Was QF9 delayed or the returning QF10? I could understand how the return crew could time out as they were sitting around at the airport but, unless the plane was held on the ground in PER due to LHR weather, which seems weird, the crew on QF9 would've timed out and the options would've been landing with time exceeded or diverting to AMS when iit became obvious that they were going to break cap.

qf789 · Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:12 am

tullamarine wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Last night’s QF9 has been delayed by 25 hours due to bad weather in London, crew timed out hence the delay, I have read elsewhere that they were going to off load 40 passengers to take on extra fuel, can anyone confirm this?

The delayed QF10 will depart LHR tomorrow at 8am for an 830am arrival into PER on Thursday

Was QF9 delayed or the returning QF10? I could understand how the return crew could time out as they were sitting around at the airport but, unless the plane was held on the ground in PER due to LHR weather, which seems weird, the crew on QF9 would've timed out and the options would've been landing with time exceeded or diverting to AMS when iit became obvious that they were going to break cap.

Both, QF9 has not departed PER, VH-ZNB has been sitting in PER for the past 22 hours which has caused a knock on effect to the departing QF10

qf789 · Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:36 am

Qantas is planning on returning to Fiji for NS19, up to 4 weekly

http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/1 ... n-to-fiji/

angusjt · Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:45 am

qf789 wrote:
Qantas is planning on returning to Fiji for NS19, up to 4 weekly

http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/1 ... n-to-fiji/

SYD-NAN I imagine, though they'll be competing with the FJ A330.

QF742 · Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:55 am

angusjt wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Qantas is planning on returning to Fiji for NS19, up to 4 weekly

http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/1 ... n-to-fiji/

SYD-NAN I imagine, though they'll be competing with the FJ A330.

I am somewhat surprised by this route. QF own a significant portion of FJ (46%) so I would wonder why they would bother flying their own metal. Is FJ’s fleet fully utilised?

ZK-NBT · Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:04 am

QF742 wrote:
angusjt wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Qantas is planning on returning to Fiji for NS19, up to 4 weekly

http://australianaviation.com.au/2018/1 ... n-to-fiji/

SYD-NAN I imagine, though they'll be competing with the FJ A330.

I am somewhat surprised by this route. QF own a significant portion of FJ (46%) so I would wonder why they would bother flying their own metal. Is FJ’s fleet fully utilised?

Bilaterals most likely given they codeshare with FJ, but I believe FJ are close to maxed out on seats to SYD/MEL/BNE.

qf789 · Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:42 am

Here is another surprising route, AirAsia presumably QZ will start Perth to Lombok in February

http://www.thejakartapost.com/travel/20 ... route.html

tullamarine · Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:17 pm

qf789 wrote:
tullamarine wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Last night’s QF9 has been delayed by 25 hours due to bad weather in London, crew timed out hence the delay, I have read elsewhere that they were going to off load 40 passengers to take on extra fuel, can anyone confirm this?

The delayed QF10 will depart LHR tomorrow at 8am for an 830am arrival into PER on Thursday

Was QF9 delayed or the returning QF10? I could understand how the return crew could time out as they were sitting around at the airport but, unless the plane was held on the ground in PER due to LHR weather, which seems weird, the crew on QF9 would've timed out and the options would've been landing with time exceeded or diverting to AMS when iit became obvious that they were going to break cap.

Both, QF9 has not departed PER, VH-ZNB has been sitting in PER for the past 22 hours which has caused a knock on effect to the departing QF10

It seems strange that they would delay a flight because of a possible weather issue 17 hours in the future. Weather forecasting is not so accurate as to determine that there is no possibility of a plane landing that far ahead. Maybe I'm a cynic but there seems to be something else behind the delay.

eta unknown · Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:25 pm

PER-LOK... I give it 6 months. JQ's service failed as just about all LOK pax want to combine LOK with DPS- there wasn't enough traffic even in better economic times to sustain the LOK flights both ways.

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