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BDL757 wrote:Interesting news. Delta has decided to insource the below wing (ramp) operations in RDU and AUS. This will create over 100 full time positions between the two cities. Article here:https://news.delta.com/delta-insources-100-full-time-jobs-airport-ramp-operations-austin-and-raleigh-durham
I suppose this means that flights will be added to AUS if they plan on making it 1 of the 2 largest non-hub stations. MCO is already a large non-hub city and I'm guessing BOS will be labeled a hub?
flyfresno wrote:The article says "two of the airline's largest non-Hub stations," meaning they will be (and already are) among the top non-hub spokes, but where does it say they will be #1/2?
RDUDDJI wrote:Around the turn of the millennium, DL planned to have BOS become a full hub. At least that's what I was told in training. And then of course times changed dramatically after 9/11.
flyoregon wrote:Non-story. They're simply transitioning from outsourced to employing their own people in RDU and AUS.
BDL757 wrote:flyoregon wrote:Non-story. They're simply transitioning from outsourced to employing their own people in RDU and AUS.
LOL. Tough crowd! I think it's noteworthy (and good news) to add that many full time positions when I remember years ago during the "bad times" we were outsourcing many above and below wing stations in addition to adding mostly part time non-benefited jobs. AUS going from 20ish departures to one of the two largest stations in the system seems like a story to me.to each his own I guess.
HVNandrew wrote:RDUDDJI wrote:Around the turn of the millennium, DL planned to have BOS become a full hub. At least that's what I was told in training. And then of course times changed dramatically after 9/11.
Hence the construction of the large, modern terminal A, with DL initially as its only tenant.
Things seem to be coming full circle now though, as DL will soon again have all of A, and they continue to grow in BOS.
avi8 wrote:TPA is a much larger outstation that AUS, so is FLL and MCO, among others. I wonder what the plans are for AUS if they plan on becoming the largest spoke with RDU.
axiom wrote:BDL757 wrote:flyoregon wrote:Non-story. They're simply transitioning from outsourced to employing their own people in RDU and AUS.
LOL. Tough crowd! I think it's noteworthy (and good news) to add that many full time positions when I remember years ago during the "bad times" we were outsourcing many above and below wing stations in addition to adding mostly part time non-benefited jobs. AUS going from 20ish departures to one of the two largest stations in the system seems like a story to me.to each his own I guess.
The disconnect is that the PR does -not- say that AUS is going to be one of the two largest stations in the system.
mbmbos wrote:HVNandrew wrote:RDUDDJI wrote:Around the turn of the millennium, DL planned to have BOS become a full hub. At least that's what I was told in training. And then of course times changed dramatically after 9/11.
Hence the construction of the large, modern terminal A, with DL initially as its only tenant.
Things seem to be coming full circle now though, as DL will soon again have all of A, and they continue to grow in BOS.
Interesting. Where will WN go when Delta claims all of A?
VS4ever wrote:mbmbos wrote:HVNandrew wrote:Hence the construction of the large, modern terminal A, with DL initially as its only tenant.
Things seem to be coming full circle now though, as DL will soon again have all of A, and they continue to grow in BOS.
Interesting. Where will WN go when Delta claims all of A?
They are moving to B in late 2019. Massport is moving and consolidating AA into a single pier, adding two gates on the UA side and WN will have 5 gates once it all comes together. DL will have all the gates in A except for A1/2 which it will share with WS
TransWorldOne wrote:For all the naysayers here, I would pay close attention to BDL757's post about the internal memo. Looks like AUS, and to a lesser extent RDU, are about to see a lot more Delta flights. Stay tuned.
TropicalSky wrote:TransWorldOne wrote:For all the naysayers here, I would pay close attention to BDL757's post about the internal memo. Looks like AUS, and to a lesser extent RDU, are about to see a lot more Delta flights. Stay tuned.
They missed that part about the internal memo with their rush to row or berate....but should be interesting to see what exactly Delta comes up with to grow Aus & Rdu significantly
BDL757 wrote:I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cause such a stir. Usually the article on news.delta is the same exact internal article so I didn't check the link. Someone can change the title or delete it if they want.
Interestingly, though, if you go to news.delta.com and put your cursor on the story (but don't click it) a little preview comes up and says "with these changes, Austin and Raleigh are set to become the two largest non-hub stations in the system". This is what is in the article on deltanet but missing from the public story.
ERJ170 wrote:Wait Wait Wait Wait...
What I read was:
* DL is changing some outsourced under wing positions to Delta employees
* Those positions are at RDU and AUS and will equal about 100 positions changed positions
* It will be split between the two, meaning some AUS and some RDU but since RDU is a larger operation I’m assuming it will be more there
* AUS and RDU are two OF their largest stations (but are NOT their two largest stations)
Is this what anybody else got?
klm617 wrote:It's really hard to tell because Delta is such a propaganda machine we sometimes don't know what their true agenda might be.
AVLAirlineFreq wrote:
Some people on this forum also consider DTW to be a DL non-hub...
tphuang wrote:There is no question they are trying to grow AUS. But they have no point of sale at AUS at all. It will be a long uphill battle if they tried.
TropicalSky wrote:TransWorldOne wrote:For all the naysayers here, I would pay close attention to BDL757's post about the internal memo. Looks like AUS, and to a lesser extent RDU, are about to see a lot more Delta flights. Stay tuned.
They missed that part about the internal memo with their rush to row or berate....but should be interesting to see what exactly Delta comes up with to grow Aus & Rdu significantly
klm617 wrote:ERJ170 wrote:Wait Wait Wait Wait...
What I read was:
* DL is changing some outsourced under wing positions to Delta employees
* Those positions are at RDU and AUS and will equal about 100 positions changed positions
* It will be split between the two, meaning some AUS and some RDU but since RDU is a larger operation I’m assuming it will be more there
* AUS and RDU are two OF their largest stations (but are NOT their two largest stations)
Is this what anybody else got?
That's exactly how it read to me too. But that still bears the question why is Delta making such a big deal about these two stations as I'm they have done this at other out stations under the radar. Is this to boost employee moral or is there something really in the works for Delta in Austin. It's really hard to tell because Delta is such a propaganda machine we sometimes don't know what their true agenda might be.
tphuang wrote:There is no question they are trying to grow AUS. But they have no point of sale at AUS at all. It will be a long uphill battle if they tried.
MIflyer12 wrote:tphuang wrote:There is no question they are trying to grow AUS. But they have no point of sale at AUS at all. It will be a long uphill battle if they tried.
How do you know that?
klm617 wrote:ERJ170 wrote:Wait Wait Wait Wait...
What I read was:
* DL is changing some outsourced under wing positions to Delta employees
* Those positions are at RDU and AUS and will equal about 100 positions changed positions
* It will be split between the two, meaning some AUS and some RDU but since RDU is a larger operation I’m assuming it will be more there
* AUS and RDU are two OF their largest stations (but are NOT their two largest stations)
Is this what anybody else got?
That's exactly how it read to me too. But that still bears the question why is Delta making such a big deal about these two stations as I'm they have done this at other out stations under the radar. Is this to boost employee moral or is there something really in the works for Delta in Austin. It's really hard to tell because Delta is such a propaganda machine we sometimes don't know what their true agenda might be.
Fargo wrote:AUS only has 20-30 flights or something, how can they be one of the largest outstations?
Flighty wrote:The idea that Delta might bust out a bigger-than-MCO operation at both RDU and AUS is entirely possible. It's big news if true. But we don't have real evidence in this thread that it is true. Delta PR is not a source I trust unless it is clearly researched and legally binding. Which material statements from executives are.
tphuang wrote:MIflyer12 wrote:tphuang wrote:There is no question they are trying to grow AUS. But they have no point of sale at AUS at all. It will be a long uphill battle if they tried.
How do you know that?
Based on their yield out of aus on routes where they don’t dominate on the other end like sea bos and lax.
stlgph wrote:tphuang wrote:MIflyer12 wrote:
How do you know that?
Based on their yield out of aus on routes where they don’t dominate on the other end like sea bos and lax.
It's interesting how you keep posting all this information about financial performance based on your perceived yield of routes, yet a number of people keep coming on here right behind you posting that you're completely clueless as to what you are talking about in regards to this. Ever notice that? Because, I do.
stlgph wrote:tphuang wrote:MIflyer12 wrote:
How do you know that?
Based on their yield out of aus on routes where they don’t dominate on the other end like sea bos and lax.
It's interesting how you keep posting all this information about financial performance based on your perceived yield of routes, yet a number of people keep coming on here right behind you posting that you're completely clueless as to what you are talking about in regards to this. Ever notice that? Because, I do.
BDL757 wrote:Interesting news. Delta has decided to insource the below wing (ramp) operations in RDU and AUS. This will create over 100 full time positions between the two cities. Article here:https://news.delta.com/delta-insources-100-full-time-jobs-airport-ramp-operations-austin-and-raleigh-durham
I suppose this means that flights will be added to AUS if they plan on making it 1 of the 2 largest non-hub stations. MCO is already a large non-hub city and I'm guessing BOS will be labeled a hub?
ERJ170 wrote:Per an article from The News and Observer, RDU will get 70 DGS to DL positions below wing plus ready reserve... so AUS will get 30 DGS to DL below wing positions. Not sure how many RDU positions are already there..
And I don’t know how many more flights DL can add without F9 and G4 moving or the new extensions added
cessna2 wrote:All I’m going to say is DL is adding more management to RDU. Types of positions that don’t exist outside of large stations or mini hubs. I do believe DL has more plans for RDU than people are willing to admit.
slcdeltarumd11 wrote:cessna2 wrote:All I’m going to say is DL is adding more management to RDU. Types of positions that don’t exist outside of large stations or mini hubs. I do believe DL has more plans for RDU than people are willing to admit.
Could be a cost saving measure more than flights, but moving labor. In 2018 and technology there's alot of jobs that don't have to be in Atlanta. They could get some nice incentives to move a few departments or found some way those positions are cheaper operating in the RDU area. It could be more than flights could be labor savings. RDU is clearly a focus city for Delta but also nice and close to ATL, seems possible. I would take these jobs rumor as RDU is in for the long term more which is good news, clearly will continue to be a focus city, but doesn't mean they have to make it a hub.