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PSG55
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TAP - Why no London to Funchal service?

Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:57 am

As someone who regularly flies TAP between London and Portugal, I am curious as to why the airline gave up its Funchal service a few years ago? There is a lot of demand between the UK and Portugal and a huge number of the large UK-based Portuguese population is from Madeira. Is it purely EasyJet and Ryanair who have come into the marketplace or is it just a slot issue perhaps? I know BA operate to Funchal daily from Gatwick.
 
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Re: TAP - Why no London to Funchal service?

Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:34 am

Ryanair does not fly at all to Funchal. Not from the UK, nor from Portugal mainland.

I am not sure if TAP remains with a base at FNC, which will be the easiest way to deploy routes to LON easily. In case they had to operate the flight out of there, rostering it from LIS timings and limits for flying hours would be even harder.
 
jomur
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Re: TAP - Why no London to Funchal service?

Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:49 am

Quite a few other uk airlines ie Jet2, Thonas Cook amongst others, fly to FNC fron the regions, although not necessarily every day.
 
AbigailWT
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Re: TAP - Why no London to Funchal service?

Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:49 am

BA and U2 both provide this service (competition). As to why TAP discontinued service -- it's for the same reason any service is nixed; poor performance.

Load factors to/from Funchal are generally poor (right around 60% for traditional carriers, slightly higher for LCCs), this compares to TAPs annual load average of 83%. Passenger volume to/from London has been in decline since 2008:

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and the National Institute of Civil Aviation of Portugal cites the following as another factor:

"Our main international link, London, lost market share given the increase in value of the connections available to Amsterdam, Paris, Helsinki and Dusseldorf."

TAP just has bigger fish to fry.


source:https://www.anac.pt/SiteCollectionDocuments/Publicacoes/estudos/AEROPORTO_FUNCHAL.pdf
 
dfpinto
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Re: TAP - Why no London to Funchal service?

Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:25 pm

Do you know why traffic UK-Funchal is in decline? Because you can get to Alicante, Corfu, Catania, Valencia, Malta, etc., etc., etc. with less than 50£, whereas to Funchal, it'll never be less than 200£ and a kidney.

In high season, it is cheaper to get to New York or Boston than Funchal.
 
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Re: TAP - Why no London to Funchal service?

Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:38 pm

PSG55 wrote:
I know BA operate to Funchal daily from Gatwick.


There are BA fares one-way LGW-Funchal on many dates next month at GBP 46. Why waste an aircraft when yields are so low.
 
AbigailWT
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Re: TAP - Why no London to Funchal service?

Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:20 pm

dfpinto wrote:
Do you know why traffic UK-Funchal is in decline? Because you can get to Alicante, Corfu, Catania, Valencia, Malta, etc., etc., etc. with less than 50£, whereas to Funchal, it'll never be less than 200£ and a kidney.


Wait? what????

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dfpinto wrote:
In high season, it is cheaper to get to New York or Boston than Funchal.


Wait?? what??

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If by "cheaper" did you mean "several times more expensive" -- ?? If not, I'll have what you're smoking. It's gotta be good.
 
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Re: TAP - Why no London to Funchal service?

Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:31 pm

November is not high season......

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