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United FA Bases

Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:05 pm

With the recent (long awaited) merge of sUA and sCO FAs, how are the bases looking junior and senior wise? I know IAH was very senior sCO but extremely junior sUA.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:39 pm

I actually saw a breakdown of this information, based on post-merger numbers, however it only included bases in the 50 US states - it didn't include the numbers for LHR, FRA, NRT, HKG, or GUM.

Based on October 1 information, in the 50 US states (BOS, EWR, IAD, CLE, ORD, IAH, DEN, LAS, SFO, LAX, HNL), the overall most junior flight attendant base is currently Washington DC, followed by San Francisco, and then Newark/La Guardia. Strictly speaking for long haul flying, the most junior base is Newark, followed by Washington D.C., then followed by San Fransisco. Amongst the bases in the 50 US states, the overall most senior base is Honolulu, and the most senior base for long haul flying is Denver (which flies Denver-London and Denver-Narita).
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:47 pm

Do they still recruit ar LHR?
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:02 pm

okay wrote:
Do they still recruit ar LHR?


No all new hire FAs are based in mainland US locations only. The company recently awarded transfers into BOS and LAS bases that haven't seen any transfers in several years and BOS is one of the base options (ORD is another) that the classes currently in training are getting sent to.
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:14 pm

They recently announced new crew bases at SAN, PHX, and MCO which will shift seniority all around the system. The company also said they will be eyeing additional satellite bases too. Very interesting development but also pragmatic. Everyone knows that being based at home equals a much more content and long lasting employee.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:53 pm

tkoenig95 wrote:
With the recent (long awaited) merge of sUA and sCO FAs, how are the bases looking junior and senior wise? I know IAH was very senior sCO but extremely junior sUA.


I think there needs to be more time to allow the dust to settle after such a long integration process. Take for instance hubs like EWR, SFO, LAX, and IAH; these hubs had their long haul network turn upside down when UA started to move around the wide body fleet. From what I’ve heard a lot of these senior FA’s especially at our coastal hubs move over to our transcon flights, if they had enough seniority some started flying Hawaiian routes, for the rest they had to find other domestic lines. Since this process took so long some of these FA’s that were displaced my be comfortable with the lines they have others might be anxious to get back on their previous international route. Look at EWR it is now one of the most junior FA bases for long haul international travel but that is because a lot of sCO metal was replace by sUA metal and lets not forget the outcry DCA based FA’s made when UA move a majority of the 764 fleet to IAD only to move those aircraft back to EWR because it would have displaced a lot of senior FA’s and they didn’t want their base decimated like LAX, SFO, IAH, and EWR. So I think as time goes on you will see a balacining of the scales there probably will be some senior FA’s who say I’m done with long haul which will open the door for FA’s in the middle of the pack who have been stuck flying domestic lines for years and have wanted to hold an international line but couldn’t because at first they didn’t have the seniority then the international flying was on the wrong metal, from the wrong hub. There are a lot of FA’s that fell into this catch 22 during this intergration process who now if those senior FA’s don’t jump back on the international routes have a shot at landing one of those lines while junior FA’s maybe bumped off some of these international lines that they become acustom to holding for a the past 6-7 years.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:44 pm

I don't know how these new junior flight attendants survive living in the most expensive cities in the world. Take for example, San Francisco/Bay Area. Making 6 figures in the bay means you're still low income. As a new flight attendant at United, isn't the take home salary around 20-30K a year? Like Jesus......why put your self through that? Poverty level wage and having to deal with the flying public? Hats off to those who choose this career path cause I could never do that.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/us/bay-area-housing-market.html
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:54 pm

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I don't know how these new junior flight attendants survive living in the most expensive cities in the world. Take for example, San Francisco/Bay Area. Making 6 figures in the bay means you're still low income. As a new flight attendant at United, isn't the take home salary around 20-30K a year? Like Jesus......why put your self through that? Poverty level wage and having to deal with the flying public? Hats off to those who choose this career path cause I could never do that.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/us/bay-area-housing-market.html



Now imagine how it was at Virgin America, who were some of the lowest paid FAs in the country and whos hub was SFO. Airlines try to take advantage of people by portraying the lifestyle as "glamorous" , and Virgin was the most guilty of this and took in young naive people and forced them to live 20 to a shack or roach motel in SFO on their poverty pay levels. Good riddance that labor bottom feeder is gone.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:57 pm

CobaltScar wrote:
blooc350 wrote:
I don't know how these new junior flight attendants survive living in the most expensive cities in the world. Take for example, San Francisco/Bay Area. Making 6 figures in the bay means you're still low income. As a new flight attendant at United, isn't the take home salary around 20-30K a year? Like Jesus......why put your self through that? Poverty level wage and having to deal with the flying public? Hats off to those who choose this career path cause I could never do that.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/us/bay-area-housing-market.html



Now imagine how it was at Virgin America, who were some of the lowest paid FAs in the country and whos hub was SFO. Airlines try to take advantage of people by portraying the lifestyle as "glamorous" , and Virgin was the most guilty of this and took in young naive people and forced them to live 20 to a shack or roach motel in SFO on their poverty pay levels. Good riddance that labor bottom feeder is gone.


SFO actually probably isn’t a terrible base for flight attendants who live in, say, the western half of the country and commute. There are many options into all three Bay Area airports, and flying into OAK and riding BART around to SFO isn’t hard.
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:00 pm

CobaltScar wrote:
They recently announced new crew bases at SAN, PHX, and MCO which will shift seniority all around the system. The company also said they will be eyeing additional satellite bases too. Very interesting development but also pragmatic. Everyone knows that being based at home equals a much more content and long lasting employee.

They’re satellite bases, not full-on crew bases.
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:23 pm

Cubsrule wrote:
CobaltScar wrote:
blooc350 wrote:
I don't know how these new junior flight attendants survive living in the most expensive cities in the world. Take for example, San Francisco/Bay Area. Making 6 figures in the bay means you're still low income. As a new flight attendant at United, isn't the take home salary around 20-30K a year? Like Jesus......why put your self through that? Poverty level wage and having to deal with the flying public? Hats off to those who choose this career path cause I could never do that.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/us/bay-area-housing-market.html



Now imagine how it was at Virgin America, who were some of the lowest paid FAs in the country and whos hub was SFO. Airlines try to take advantage of people by portraying the lifestyle as "glamorous" , and Virgin was the most guilty of this and took in young naive people and forced them to live 20 to a shack or roach motel in SFO on their poverty pay levels. Good riddance that labor bottom feeder is gone.


SFO actually probably isn’t a terrible base for flight attendants who live in, say, the western half of the country and commute. There are many options into all three Bay Area airports, and flying into OAK and riding BART around to SFO isn’t hard.


Try being a reserve FA and making a two hour call out to get to SFO from the western half of the country. And those are the ones that were making sub- 20k a year. In SFO. And I think they even had to pay for their own accommodations during training.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:27 pm

CobaltScar wrote:
Cubsrule wrote:
CobaltScar wrote:


Now imagine how it was at Virgin America, who were some of the lowest paid FAs in the country and whos hub was SFO. Airlines try to take advantage of people by portraying the lifestyle as "glamorous" , and Virgin was the most guilty of this and took in young naive people and forced them to live 20 to a shack or roach motel in SFO on their poverty pay levels. Good riddance that labor bottom feeder is gone.


SFO actually probably isn’t a terrible base for flight attendants who live in, say, the western half of the country and commute. There are many options into all three Bay Area airports, and flying into OAK and riding BART around to SFO isn’t hard.


Try being a reserve FA and making a two hour call out to get to SFO from the western half of the country. And those are the ones that were making sub- 20k a year. In SFO. And I think they even had to pay for their own accommodations during training.


I’m not sure a defunct carrier angers you so much, but regardless, commuting is hard when you are on reserve no matter the base or carrier.
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:58 pm

CobaltScar wrote:
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Now imagine how it was at Virgin America, who were some of the lowest paid FAs in the country and whos hub was SFO. Airlines try to take advantage of people by portraying the lifestyle as "glamorous" , and Virgin was the most guilty of this and took in young naive people and forced them to live 20 to a shack or roach motel in SFO on their poverty pay levels. Good riddance that labor bottom feeder is gone.



I flew for VX for 8 years and it was a great company! You'd probably be best to keep your comments to yourself before speaking of something about which you know nothing. I commuted from Phoenix my entire time at the company and it was an easy commute. In fact, most of my coworkers were commuters. I'm sure UA new hire FAs would mostly be doing the same. I've now moved on to a legacy (not UA) and am finally based at home.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:11 pm

blooc350 wrote:
I don't know how these new junior flight attendants survive living in the most expensive cities in the world. Take for example, San Francisco/Bay Area. Making 6 figures in the bay means you're still low income. As a new flight attendant at United, isn't the take home salary around 20-30K a year? Like Jesus......why put your self through that? Poverty level wage and having to deal with the flying public? Hats off to those who choose this career path cause I could never do that.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/us/bay-area-housing-market.html


No one forces them to live anywhere, they are free to commute from wherever they like.
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:18 pm

United also just announced to their Flight Attendants that they will be opening new satellite bases in Orlando, San Diego and Phoenix. Pretty good move for the commuting population.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:18 pm

United also just announced to their Flight Attendants that they will be opening new satellite bases in Orlando, San Diego and Phoenix. Pretty good move for the commuting population.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:04 pm

FirstBizFlyer wrote:
CobaltScar wrote:
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Now imagine how it was at Virgin America, who were some of the lowest paid FAs in the country and whos hub was SFO. Airlines try to take advantage of people by portraying the lifestyle as "glamorous" , and Virgin was the most guilty of this and took in young naive people and forced them to live 20 to a shack or roach motel in SFO on their poverty pay levels. Good riddance that labor bottom feeder is gone.



I flew for VX for 8 years and it was a great company! You'd probably be best to keep your comments to yourself before speaking of something about which you know nothing. I commuted from Phoenix my entire time at the company and it was an easy commute. In fact, most of my coworkers were commuters. I'm sure UA new hire FAs would mostly be doing the same. I've now moved on to a legacy (not UA) and am finally based at home.



Yeah a great company that almost never turned a profit despite taking turns with Frontier for being bottom of the list as far as pay and benefits went out of all the majors. Oh and no longer exists.

Did I mention they did not even provide accommodation during training? Training that was in San Francisco???? What a joke.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:05 pm

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United also just announced to their Flight Attendants that they will be opening new satellite bases in Orlando, San Diego and Phoenix. Pretty good move for the commuting population.


Interesting. What does a "satellite base" mean exactly for UA? Up until now, it's all been bases or hubs.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:31 pm

DiamondFlyer wrote:
blooc350 wrote:
I don't know how these new junior flight attendants survive living in the most expensive cities in the world. Take for example, San Francisco/Bay Area. Making 6 figures in the bay means you're still low income. As a new flight attendant at United, isn't the take home salary around 20-30K a year? Like Jesus......why put your self through that? Poverty level wage and having to deal with the flying public? Hats off to those who choose this career path cause I could never do that.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/us/bay-area-housing-market.html


No one forces them to live anywhere, they are free to commute from wherever they like.



Yes, a brand new flight attendant on probation would love to commute.....ohhhh bring on the stress of not making on that flight and maybe even losing a new job.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:56 pm

No U.S. carrier is forcing anyone to be a Flight Attendant. It's not 1950s, run into Aleksander Solzhenitsyn in a Soviet gulag.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:30 pm

blooc350 wrote:
DiamondFlyer wrote:
blooc350 wrote:
I don't know how these new junior flight attendants survive living in the most expensive cities in the world. Take for example, San Francisco/Bay Area. Making 6 figures in the bay means you're still low income. As a new flight attendant at United, isn't the take home salary around 20-30K a year? Like Jesus......why put your self through that? Poverty level wage and having to deal with the flying public? Hats off to those who choose this career path cause I could never do that.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/us/bay-area-housing-market.html


No one forces them to live anywhere, they are free to commute from wherever they like.



Yes, a brand new flight attendant on probation would love to commute.....ohhhh bring on the stress of not making on that flight and maybe even losing a new job.


You do understand that nearly everyone does it. I don't feel bad for a UA FA doing it, to be honest. I feel bad for the regional FA's doing it.
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Re: United FA Bases

Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:19 am

N649DL wrote:
CALAV8R wrote:
United also just announced to their Flight Attendants that they will be opening new satellite bases in Orlando, San Diego and Phoenix. Pretty good move for the commuting population.


Interesting. What does a "satellite base" mean exactly for UA? Up until now, it's all been bases or hubs.

Not true S-ual has had a satellite base in LAS and MSP both start and end trips at there respective home airports but technically if you have a meeting you report to either ORD for MSP or I think LAX for LAS. Not hubs
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:35 am

CobaltScar wrote:
Everyone knows that being based at home equals a much more content and long lasting employee.


Sure. But why should UA care about that?
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Re: United FA Bases

Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:42 am

DarkSnowyNight wrote:
CobaltScar wrote:
Everyone knows that being based at home equals a much more content and long lasting employee.


Sure. But why should UA care about that?



Because they spend a lot of money feeding, housing and training new FAs for 5 weeks, only to see far too many quit or get fired because of the commute and not being able to make their commutes. Also during heavy IROPs , all those commuters can't get into position for recovery. Bases with a high percentage of people living in base are more reliable at those times.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:46 am

CobaltScar wrote:
DarkSnowyNight wrote:
CobaltScar wrote:
Everyone knows that being based at home equals a much more content and long lasting employee.


Sure. But why should UA care about that?



Because they spend a lot of money feeding, housing and training new FAs for 5 weeks, only to see far too many quit or get fired because of the commute and not being able to make their commutes. Also during heavy IROPs , all those commuters can't get into position for recovery. Bases with a high percentage of people living in base are more reliable at those times.


Right. But it still compares favorably enough against higher seniority wages that it works for them.

These things don't have to be pretty to be functional.
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Re: United FA Bases

Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:07 am

blooc350 wrote:
I don't know how these new junior flight attendants survive living in the most expensive cities in the world. Take for example, San Francisco/Bay Area. Making 6 figures in the bay means you're still low income. As a new flight attendant at United, isn't the take home salary around 20-30K a year? Like Jesus......why put your self through that? Poverty level wage and having to deal with the flying public? Hats off to those who choose this career path cause I could never do that.


https://w%20ww.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/us/bay-area-housing-market.html

very few FA's based at SFO Live in the SFO Area. Many have Crash pads they share with other Flight attendants. I know mechanics who own houses and condos in the area and rent them to flight attendants. quite a few live in outlying areas, as far away as Fairfield near Travis AFB. They can Uber in or take Bart to the airport..
I was based in Chicago and have a home near Travis It isn't that expensive to commute.
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Re: United FA Bases

Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:21 am

Coexstud wrote:
Not true S-ual has had a satellite base in LAS and MSP both start and end trips at there respective home airports but technically if you have a meeting you report to either ORD for MSP or I think LAX for LAS. Not hubs


Nope. This is not factually correct. LAS is not technically a satellite base. It is technically what the company and AFA refer to as a “modified co-terminal” to LAX. LAX oversees the management of LAS. The proposed satellite bases at MCO, PHX, & SAN will likely have vastly different terms than what LAS is for UA. MSP has never been a base at UA and is still is not today.
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Re: United FA Bases

Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:04 pm

Coexstud wrote:
N649DL wrote:
CALAV8R wrote:
United also just announced to their Flight Attendants that they will be opening new satellite bases in Orlando, San Diego and Phoenix. Pretty good move for the commuting population.


Interesting. What does a "satellite base" mean exactly for UA? Up until now, it's all been bases or hubs.

Not true S-ual has had a satellite base in LAS and MSP both start and end trips at there respective home airports but technically if you have a meeting you report to either ORD for MSP or I think LAX for LAS. Not hubs


LAS has always been a full-on crew base for UA I believe, not satellite. Recall MSP was something of a satellite base, perhaps PHL as well.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:53 am

Jamake1 wrote:
Coexstud wrote:
Not true S-ual has had a satellite base in LAS and MSP both start and end trips at there respective home airports but technically if you have a meeting you report to either ORD for MSP or I think LAX for LAS. Not hubs


Nope. This is not factually correct. LAS is not technically a satellite base. It is technically what the company and AFA refer to as a “modified co-terminal” to LAX. LAX oversees the management of LAS. The proposed satellite bases at MCO, PHX, & SAN will likely have vastly different terms than what LAS is for UA. MSP has never been a base at UA and is still is not today.

Semantics coterminal satalite, I know MSP was a satalite base as I had a few dozen friends who worked every trip starting from MSP to ORD or where ever they routing took them
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:36 am

MSP is a satellite FA base for AA

PHL was a UA FA base until the bankruptcy
 
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Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:42 am

What is the difference between a satelite base and a full base?
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Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:44 am

What is the difference between a satelite base and a full base?
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Re: United FA Bases

Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:45 am

N649DL wrote:
Coexstud wrote:
N649DL wrote:

Interesting. What does a "satellite base" mean exactly for UA? Up until now, it's all been bases or hubs.

Not true S-ual has had a satellite base in LAS and MSP both start and end trips at there respective home airports but technically if you have a meeting you report to either ORD for MSP or I think LAX for LAS. Not hubs


LAS has always been a full-on crew base for UA I believe, not satellite. Recall MSP was something of a satellite base, perhaps PHL as well.


LAS flight attendants report to LAX supervisors. Certain LAX supervisors fly to LAS for about 2-3 days a week.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:59 am

cle757 wrote:
What is the difference between a satelite base and a full base?


Why post it twice?

As far as I know, LAS functions like a regular non-hub base like BOS does.
 
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Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:48 am

FirstBizFlyer wrote:
CobaltScar wrote:
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Now imagine how it was at Virgin America, who were some of the lowest paid FAs in the country and whos hub was SFO. Airlines try to take advantage of people by portraying the lifestyle as "glamorous" , and Virgin was the most guilty of this and took in young naive people and forced them to live 20 to a shack or roach motel in SFO on their poverty pay levels. Good riddance that labor bottom feeder is gone.



I flew for VX for 8 years and it was a great company! You'd probably be best to keep your comments to yourself before speaking of something about which you know nothing. I commuted from Phoenix my entire time at the company and it was an easy commute. In fact, most of my coworkers were commuters. I'm sure UA new hire FAs would mostly be doing the same. I've now moved on to a legacy (not UA) and am finally based at home.


Except you had no work rules, were paid less than most regionals, had horrible management, and crew scheduling was viewed as "el diablo". I'm not sure I know of anyone who "misses" the pay, work rules, contract, or relationship with Management at VX. They miss the product, service standards, uniform, and camaradere, but that's about it. I think the VX FA group has seen a 50% bump in pay, no?
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Re: United FA Bases

Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:13 am

CobaltScar wrote:
They recently announced new crew bases at SAN, PHX, and MCO which will shift seniority all around the system. The company also said they will be eyeing additional satellite bases too. Very interesting development but also pragmatic. Everyone knows that being based at home equals a much more content and long lasting employee.


You don't think thats part of the plan. The more senior that quit the lower the cost are for them. So not being based at home making them not content or long lasting saves them money long term.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:15 pm

N649DL wrote:
cle757 wrote:
What is the difference between a satelite base and a full base?


Why post it twice?

As far as I know, LAS functions like a regular non-hub base like BOS does.



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Re: United FA Bases

Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:58 pm

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I actually saw a breakdown of this information, based on post-merger numbers, however it only included bases in the 50 US states - it didn't include the numbers for LHR, FRA, NRT, HKG, or GUM.

Based on October 1 information, in the 50 US states (BOS, EWR, IAD, CLE, ORD, IAH, DEN, LAS, SFO, LAX, HNL), the overall most junior flight attendant base is currently Washington DC, followed by San Francisco, and then Newark/La Guardia. Strictly speaking for long haul flying, the most junior base is Newark, followed by Washington D.C., then followed by San Fransisco. Amongst the bases in the 50 US states, the overall most senior base is Honolulu, and the most senior base for long haul flying is Denver (which flies Denver-London and Denver-Narita).

I thought the 787 crews that flew DEN-NRT/LHR were deadheaded in on the inbound 787 flight from LAX/IAD

I would have also thought that the most senior long haul base would have been SFO given the number of TPAC/TATL flights and that it used to be the main 747 base, which I thought was the most senior aircraft in the fleet.
 
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Re: United FA Bases

Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:54 pm

caverunner17 wrote:
UA777EWRTLV wrote:
I actually saw a breakdown of this information, based on post-merger numbers, however it only included bases in the 50 US states - it didn't include the numbers for LHR, FRA, NRT, HKG, or GUM.

Based on October 1 information, in the 50 US states (BOS, EWR, IAD, CLE, ORD, IAH, DEN, LAS, SFO, LAX, HNL), the overall most junior flight attendant base is currently Washington DC, followed by San Francisco, and then Newark/La Guardia. Strictly speaking for long haul flying, the most junior base is Newark, followed by Washington D.C., then followed by San Fransisco. Amongst the bases in the 50 US states, the overall most senior base is Honolulu, and the most senior base for long haul flying is Denver (which flies Denver-London and Denver-Narita).

I thought the 787 crews that flew DEN-NRT/LHR were deadheaded in on the inbound 787 flight from LAX/IAD

I would have also thought that the most senior long haul base would have been SFO given the number of TPAC/TATL flights and that it used to be the main 747 base, which I thought was the most senior aircraft in the fleet.


Before the integration DEN-LHR was flown out of NTA and DEN-NRT was flown out of HTA/HOS.
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Re: United FA Bases

Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:44 pm

caverunner17 wrote:
UA777EWRTLV wrote:
I actually saw a breakdown of this information, based on post-merger numbers, however it only included bases in the 50 US states - it didn't include the numbers for LHR, FRA, NRT, HKG, or GUM.

Based on October 1 information, in the 50 US states (BOS, EWR, IAD, CLE, ORD, IAH, DEN, LAS, SFO, LAX, HNL), the overall most junior flight attendant base is currently Washington DC, followed by San Francisco, and then Newark/La Guardia. Strictly speaking for long haul flying, the most junior base is Newark, followed by Washington D.C., then followed by San Fransisco. Amongst the bases in the 50 US states, the overall most senior base is Honolulu, and the most senior base for long haul flying is Denver (which flies Denver-London and Denver-Narita).

I thought the 787 crews that flew DEN-NRT/LHR were deadheaded in on the inbound 787 flight from LAX/IAD

I would have also thought that the most senior long haul base would have been SFO given the number of TPAC/TATL flights and that it used to be the main 747 base, which I thought was the most senior aircraft in the fleet.


Now that the work groups are merged, staffing levels are balanced in each base so that, for the most part, each base handles its own long haul flying. So, Denver now staffs it’s own flights from DEN to NRT and LHR. The only exception is a long haul flight from one base to another, where sometimes it’s a split crew; EWR-HKG flights are staffed with seven HKG based flight attendants and four EWR based.
Regarding your question about San Fransico, the numbers I was privy to that showed seniority per base basically reflect the most junior crew member in that base to hold a long haul schedule. In San Francisco, the numbers I saw showed that it takes about 25 years to hold San Fransicos to Tel Aviv, Frankfurt, Beijing, and Shanghai. Of course, certain days of the week or positions go more senior, and certain other routes go more senior.

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