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Spain will open its newest airport, Murcia International, on January 2019

Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:02 pm

RMU (Región de Murcia International Airport), Spain's newest airport, will open its doors on January 15th, 2019. It will replace the old MJV for commercial operations (MJV is also a military airport). I don't think this has been covered here.

https://www.europapress.es/turismo/tran ... 71312.html

El aeropuerto de Corvera comenzará a operar el 15 de enero de 2019

El aeropuerto de Corvera comenzará a operar el 15 de enero de 2019

El presidente de Aena, Jaime García-Legaz, ha participado este lunes en un encuentro de trabajo con la Asociación de Directivos de la Región de Murcia (Adimur) en el que han repasado la situación actual del proyecto del aeropuerto de Corvera y los plazos que se manejan para su puesta en marcha, y ha mostrado su confianza en que la infraestructura comenzará a operar el 15 de enero de 2019, porque "hay un contrato y se va a cumplir".


The airport will serve the region of Murcia in Southeastern Spain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Región_de ... al_Airport

So far easyJet, Jet2, Norwegian, Ryanair, SmartWings, TUI and Volotea have confirmed flights to RMU.
 
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Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:26 pm

Truly an underrated region in Spain. I hope this airport gets a good amount of flights in the future.
 
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Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:29 pm

Team Merica! Sorry, couldn't resist. ;). If you haven't seen that puppet movie, you are better off not knowing.

I too hope this increases traffic. Airport expansion is usually a good thing.

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Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:42 pm

From a tourist point of view this isn't a very good move since the old airport is right by the coast while the new airport is inland. This increases travel times. However I can understand the new airport has far more capacity than the old one. A larger terminal and more runway capacity since they don't have to share it with the military.

Does anyone know what will happen to the civilian terminal at the old airport?
 
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:45 am

Believe it or not, another airport with "far more" capacity in Spain.

How many spanish airports are being used near full capacity? To name a few BCN, MAD and VLC have had huge expansions over the last decade and all of them are operating far below capacity.

Not to mention empty airports all across Spain (VLL, ABC, ILD, CDT, BJZ, RGS, CQM, etc, etc, etc)

The latest is a new airport in MAD.....LOL

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Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:51 am

Perhaps worth remembering that while not as large as the USA, Spain is still a sizeable country and whose population live partly in rural areas rather than just Madrid
 
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:15 am

MJV is an important Spanish Air Force base and the civil operations were limited as a consecuence. MJV will be now fully dedicated to its militar role and RMU will be used to allow airlines to open more destinations and increase traffic, if they want to. That is something they could not do at MJV, as there were limits for civil aviation flights.
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Re: Spain will open its newest airport, Murcia International, on January 2019

Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:57 am

upperdeckfan wrote:
Believe it or not, another airport with "far more" capacity in Spain.

How many spanish airports are being used near full capacity? To name a few BCN, MAD and VLC have had huge expansions over the last decade and all of them are operating far below capacity.

Not to mention empty airports all across Spain (VLL, ABC, ILD, CDT, BJZ, RGS, CQM, etc, etc, etc)

The latest is a new airport in MAD.....LOL

https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/10/18/in ... 66697.html


This is a good thing. We should commend the Spanish for being proactive about investing in infrastructure. Meanwhile Londoners are going to argue for another 10 years about whether a third runway at LHR should be built or not. :roll:
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:11 am

Do i see two jetbridges on either end? The one on the right side looks very weird and curled, what is it?
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:33 am

upperdeckfan wrote:
Believe it or not, another airport with "far more" capacity in Spain.

How many spanish airports are being used near full capacity? To name a few BCN, MAD and VLC have had huge expansions over the last decade and all of them are operating far below capacity.

Not to mention empty airports all across Spain (VLL, ABC, ILD, CDT, BJZ, RGS, CQM, etc, etc, etc)

The latest is a new airport in MAD.....LOL

https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/10/18/in ... 66697.html


I’m not so sure why it’s funny that gateway airports in Spain are being built to anticipate future growth. MAD I believe has capacity for 70m and last year handled 53m. They won’t be scrambling to add extensions to the terminals at the last minute or having to introduce any stop gap measures to satisfy demand. Plenty room for steady growth and it will remain an enjoyable airport to travel through throughout that growth.

Compare that to airports in the U.K. for a moment. LHR has been full for an incredibly long period of time with neverending debates on whether to build another runway or build another airport that just go around in circles. There’ll be no room for growth any time in the next decade even if a final decision were to be made today. Then look at MAN, bursting at the seems, a total horror to fly through and it’s not like they didn’t see it coming. Sadly management have just sat on their hands and done nothing, invested nothing for years and years. That story rings true throughout the country.

Remember, the Spanish economy is back on its feet and things are starting to pick up. But also remember many regional airports have been made less necessary by the incredibly efficient and high speed AVE that has rendered a lot of domestic flying obsolete.

Cuidad Real likely came at the worst possible time and had AENA been managing it, it may have stood a better chance. It also wasn’t really a second airport for Madrid without a connection to AVE.
 
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Re: Spain will open its newest airport, Murcia International, on January 2019

Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:02 pm

Yeah, there are some airports that are a bit of a waste (Castellón and León come to mind here), but Murcia is a heavily used airport to an area that has poor rail connections to the rest of the country and would be quite far from Madrid regardless.

Yeah, Ciudad Real was a mess, but that was private money. In case nobody has ever been around there, there's a whole lot of nothing so no real reason not to let a bunch of private investors give construction jobs for awhile even if you don't agree with their plan.
 
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:40 pm

ThomasCook wrote:
I’m not so sure why it’s funny that gateway airports in Spain are being built to anticipate future growth. MAD I believe has capacity for 70m and last year handled 53m. They won’t be scrambling to add extensions to the terminals at the last minute or having to introduce any stop gap measures to satisfy demand. Plenty room for steady growth and it will remain an enjoyable airport to travel through throughout that growth.

Compare that to airports in the U.K. for a moment. LHR has been full for an incredibly long period of time with neverending debates on whether to build another runway or build another airport that just go around in circles. There’ll be no room for growth any time in the next decade even if a final decision were to be made today. Then look at MAN, bursting at the seems, a total horror to fly through and it’s not like they didn’t see it coming. Sadly management have just sat on their hands and done nothing, invested nothing for years and years. That story rings true throughout the country.

Remember, the Spanish economy is back on its feet and things are starting to pick up. But also remember many regional airports have been made less necessary by the incredibly efficient and high speed AVE that has rendered a lot of domestic flying obsolete.

Cuidad Real likely came at the worst possible time and had AENA been managing it, it may have stood a better chance. It also wasn’t really a second airport for Madrid without a connection to AVE.


First of all, you are missing that both high speed trains and regional airports are state funded. If one competes against the other it means very poor management of public funds. We are talking about billions of euros for HSR and major airports expansions in MAD and BCN.

To clarify, the link I attached is not about Ciudad Real, it's about a new airport being announced for Madrid metro area.

Finally, if some UK airports are operating at 100% of their capacity then an expansion is justified, but IMHO spending billions of euros for "future growth" is not.

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Yeah, there are some airports that are a bit of a waste (Castellón and León come to mind here), but Murcia is a heavily used airport to an area that has poor rail connections to the rest of the country and would be quite far from Madrid regardless.

Yeah, Ciudad Real was a mess, but that was private money. In case nobody has ever been around there, there's a whole lot of nothing so no real reason not to let a bunch of private investors give construction jobs for awhile even if you don't agree with their plan.


Don't forget that Murcia old and new airports are less than 100 km away from ALC, that's less than an hour drive on the highway.
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:21 pm

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Yeah, Ciudad Real was a mess, but that was private money. In case nobody has ever been around there, there's a whole lot of nothing so no real reason not to let a bunch of private investors give construction jobs for awhile even if you don't agree with their plan.


Incorrect. CQM was promoted with loans from one of the regional banks that went bankrupt (like many banks after the crisis) and had to be "rescued" by tax-payers money. Then when CQM opened, some of the stakeholders were the regional government of Castilla La Mancha or the cities of Ciudad Real and Puertollano. Those public institutions injected millions of euros to keep it open.

So CQM was promoted privately but ultimately was paid by public fundings.
 
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:25 pm

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Team Merica! Sorry, couldn't resist. ;). If you haven't seen that puppet movie, you are better off not knowing.

I too hope this increases traffic. Airport expansion is usually a good thing.

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I personally find the name funny. "Murcia International". To put it mildly, Murcia is not the most sophisticated region in Spain. So Región de Murcia International sounds something akin to State of Alabama International Airport.
 
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:39 pm

I wish them success, and it appears that they will have it. However, it seems rather redundant to put "international" in the name as there are very few airports in Spain that are not international. MAD, BCN, and AGP, to name a few, don't bother.
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Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:40 pm

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Perhaps worth remembering that while not as large as the USA, Spain is still a sizeable country and whose population live partly in rural areas rather than just Madrid


And it's not just the population using those airports. Spain has a lot of tourism, mostly at the coastal areas. These are sun worshippers from northern Europe that like to spend their holiday on the beach in Spain. This gives the Spanish coastal areas a huge advantage over the Spanish inland.

Madrid is a large city and no doubt draws a good number of tourists, but nowhere near the number of tourists at the coast. Therefor any airport within reasonable distance from the coast is bound to do well.
 
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:26 am

LupineChemist wrote:
Yeah, there are some airports that are a bit of a waste (Castellón and León come to mind here), but Murcia is a heavily used airport to an area that has poor rail connections to the rest of the country and would be quite far from Madrid regardless.

Yeah, Ciudad Real was a mess, but that was private money. In case nobody has ever been around there, there's a whole lot of nothing so no real reason not to let a bunch of private investors give construction jobs for awhile even if you don't agree with their plan.


You can add this airport to the list that are a waste of money. It might have started off as a private venture, backed only politically by the regional government (many of whose members have been involved in corruption scandals). One ex president of the region, now EuroMP famously said that it would not cost Murcians a single Euro. It turns out to have cost hundreds of millions of Euros as the loan guarantee was executed and so had to paid by the taxpayers of this already impovrished region of Spain. Further costs have arisen from road links, promotion money to the tune of €4.1 million Euros so far and bus links. Neither promotion of bus links was something that the current airport never benefited from and yet manages to be profitable, to be growing month after month for over 2 years running and has won the prize for best airport in the under 2m passenger category 3 times in the last few years!

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MJV is an important Spanish Air Force base and the civil operations were limited as a consecuence. MJV will be now fully dedicated to its militar role and RMU will be used to allow airlines to open more destinations and increase traffic, if they want to. That is something they could not do at MJV, as there were limits for civil aviation flights.


There are no restrictions anymore. Not since 2012 due to a dedicated runway being built for the Air Force (see below).
It is also not true that RMU will be used by more airlines. In fact BA and Aer Lingus have decided not to move there at all, despite having operated at MJV.


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Team Merica! Sorry, couldn't resist. ;). If you haven't seen that puppet movie, you are better off not knowing.

I too hope this increases traffic. Airport expansion is usually a good thing.

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Sadly this is not really expansion. It is simply a relocation of an airport, closer to the capital city of the province, but further away from its main asset, namely the coast.
The current airport is only at one third of its capacity. It had a new runway completed in 2012 to ensure that the former restrictions where civilian traffic was not permitted at certain hours of the day was lifted.

It is already apparent that some airlines are not keen on the new airport and expect less demand. British Airways and Aer Lingus that had flights to Murcia-San Javier will not be serving the new "international" facility. jet2 that had 4 UK routes will be slashing its flights by half: It will keep the routes from Manchester and Leeds-Bradford but will not move Edinburgh or Newcastle. Moreover, Manchester is only being kept with fewer frequencies: 3 weekly instead of the 5 at MJV. Ryanair which is the by far the biggest airline in Murcia is keeping all UK and Dublin frequencies but not moving those from Eindhoven and Frankfurt International. Only one new route has been announced for the new airport: Asturias at 2 weekly from end of May until end of August. Quite ironic then that the new airport is referred to as "international", when it will be less so.

You may ask, why would airlines not move to a new facility which is relatively close and that has a shiny new terminal?
The answer is that Alicante Airport is also relatively close and for a sizeable segment of people from Northern Europe, particularly the UK and Ireland with a holiday home or just a retirement or second residence in the Torrevieja area, and who found Murcia-San javier to be closer in distance and easy to use, the new airport will offer no or little advantage over Alicante, which has many more airlines and destinations. jet2 is increasing capacity in ALC, where it will even use Airbus A330 on one of its daily flights from MAN.

It will be interesting to keep an eye on the figures for the new "international" airport. It is inheriting more capacity by Easyjet who has got more flights this winter than the previous one, but the summer is looking like a 10% reduction in capacity with the aforementioned cuts.Further falls are likely the following seasons as the airlines that copy and pasted their schedules (Ryanair, Easyjet, Norwegian and Tui Fly Belgium) adjust capacity to reflect the real demand at the new airport.
Looking ahead, I can see a BCN by Vueling route working given the connections available there, but the dreams that many local politicians were selling of flight to all of Europe and beyond will not materialise, least of all when a new rail link open that will connect Alicante airport direct with the Murcian capital. A faster train with MAD coming in the Spring that would reduce the journey time to 3 hours will also make it less likely that a MAD route is reinstated.
 
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:13 pm

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Believe it or not, another airport with "far more" capacity in Spain.

How many spanish airports are being used near full capacity? To name a few BCN, MAD and VLC have had huge expansions over the last decade and all of them are operating far below capacity.

Not to mention empty airports all across Spain (VLL, ABC, ILD, CDT, BJZ, RGS, CQM, etc, etc, etc)

The latest is a new airport in MAD.....LOL

https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/10/18/in ... 66697.html


Before the new terminal was built in Madrid the airport was running well above the design capacity of ~25 million pax. In fact it handled 41,5 million passengers in 2005. In the case of Barcelona the airport handled 32,9 million passengers in 2007 when the terminal was only really designed for 25 million passsengers. Malaga airport was also running above the terminal design capacity. Alicante handled 9-10 million passengers with a terminal built to handle 5 million passengers. Pretty much all airports in spain that handle above 5 million pax today were running above design capacity before they were expanded, then came the recession and everyone said the investments were wastful govenment spending, but in fact, only thanks to these investments spain was able to handle the 30 million+ jump in tourists between 2010 and 2017.

Today the new terminal in Barcelona is running above its design capacity, it is handling 35 million pax when it is only designed for 30 million. this is not really a problem for most of the year since it is designed to handle peakflows in august well above the rest of the year.
 
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:01 pm

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MJV is an important Spanish Air Force base and the civil operations were limited as a consecuence. MJV will be now fully dedicated to its militar role and RMU will be used to allow airlines to open more destinations and increase traffic, if they want to. That is something they could not do at MJV, as there were limits for civil aviation flights.


There are no restrictions anymore. Not since 2012 due to a dedicated runway being built for the Air Force (see below).
It is also not true that RMU will be used by more airlines. In fact BA and Aer Lingus have decided not to move there at all, despite having operated at MJV.

I said the new airport could handle more traffic. If BA and EI decide not to use it, that is their choice, but they are all very much welcome to use it.
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:36 pm

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Embajador3 wrote:

I said the new airport could handle more traffic. If BA and EI decide not to use it, that is their choice, but they are all very much welcome to use it.


I am sure that BA, EI and others are also very welcome to fly to Castellón, Lleida, Ciudad Real and others, but after the whole history of Spain and vanity airports, it is bit arrogant to expect that the "build them and they come" doctrine still applies. Murcia in a way is worse situation, where a profitable airport that is growing, that is popular with its users, that is still at one third of its capacity will be closed to give some life to a new facility that not even all airlines are willing to move to and that will result in a net loss of passengers.. Not to mention the jobs that will be lost in the already impoverished area of San Javier where the current airport is, where tourism and ancillary services to the airport is significant in the local economy.
 
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Perhaps worth remembering that while not as large as the USA, Spain is still a sizeable country and whose population live partly in rural areas rather than just Madrid


I'm not sure what you mean by sizeable. Pretty much the whole country is within a 5 hour drive of Madrid.
 
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Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:39 am

The Corvea airport (as it was known in the past) is 70km from Alicante Elche Airport and while the old San Javier was attractive for people heading for the hotels near mar Menor and Cartagena, as it was directly at the coast, the new one is also 30-35km away from the hotels. Maybe it helps to develop the cost south and west of Cartagena. For the existing tourist infrastructure it has little value over ALC though.
 
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Kitplane - I can quite believe that much of Spain is within a 5 hour drive of Madrid. However most Spanish residents and (more importantly tourists coming from northern Europe) simply would not normally consider driving more than maybe 90 minutes to an airport - 2 hours at the very most - if travelling within Europe unless travelling to a very remote area. The long distance car culture of North America doesn't exist to the same extent in Europe
 
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Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:29 pm

I won't be the one defending Spain has done a good public administration of its civil airports - for sure. However, if we look at the number of civil airports by country in Europe, Spain has 43. While we can discuss whether the Spanish economy truly needs such infrastructures, the truth is that other countries with similar size, has around the same figures, or even more. Italy for example has 56 airports. Bigger economies like France (116) or the United Kingdom (88) have way more. Sweden, despite being relatively small populated has 48. It happens the same in Norway with 45 airports. These two countries need air travel to beat somehow the isolation and the lack of other methods of transport like trains.

Spanish Air Travel market is heavily influenced by tourist traffics coming from Central-Northern areas of Europe. Those traffics rely on transporting passengers straight away to the tourist main hubs. When we look at the figures of international airports, Spain has a total of 29, whereas Germany (which we can agree on being a way more developed economy), has just 21. The reason here is very clear. The economic hubs are little and heavily concentrated, for Germany say FRA, MUC, DUS mainly. On the other hand, the “tourist hubs” are heavily dispersed and to be competitive they do require of direct access to the main locations. We can’t forget Spain is the third most visited country in the World.

Apart from Ciudad Real, Lleida, Burgos, and Castellon, all the rest are runways which were built back in the day when Spain wasn’t yet a democracy. The problem in Spain was the amounts of public investments dedicated to some of those airports, rather than just the fact of build them or not. I believe most of them are needed. Said that, most of them would be way more competitive if they just had the same facilities that airports in Northern Norway have.
 
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Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:40 pm

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I'm not sure what you mean by sizeable. Pretty much the whole country is within a 5 hour drive of Madrid.


There is more than Madrid in Spain. Population in Spain is concentrated in Madrid and the coasts. So +30 million people living in the coasts. From Galicia to Valencia, from the Basque Country to Andalucia, or from Asturias to Murcia (btw Volotea announced OVD-RMU), planes are competitive. Not to mention the islands.
 
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Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:54 pm

davidjohnson6 wrote:
Kitplane - I can quite believe that much of Spain is within a 5 hour drive of Madrid. However most Spanish residents and (more importantly tourists coming from northern Europe) simply would not normally consider driving more than maybe 90 minutes to an airport - 2 hours at the very most - if travelling within Europe unless travelling to a very remote area. The long distance car culture of North America doesn't exist to the same extent in Europe


I agree with that. Certainly when tourists are flying to the beach for a holiday in the sun, they want to land at an airport that is right around the corner. Given that Spain has one of the longest coastlines in Europe and that whole coast is packed with hotels, the coast must be packed with airports as well. And specially tourist airlines like TUI and Condor / Thomas Cook are expected to serve every single one of those airports to get their tourists to every beach destination they can possibly pick.

A 5 hour drive may not be a problem in America, but it's a whole other story in Europe. For the Spanish coastal regions Madrid is completely out of the question, it's just way too far. You don't drive that distance to get to an airport, you just don't.
 
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:04 pm

It seems crazy to open another airport in Casarrubios when Madrid Barajas has plenty of capacity, 4 runways and space for more terminals if necessary. But that doesn't mean they won't do it, because I imagine the local mayors are licking their lips at the kickbacks they would get from rezoning the land.
 
 
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Hopefully it will boost tourism in the area. Well worth a visit I was there a few months ago.
 
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Hopefully it will boost tourism in the area. Well worth a visit I was there a few months ago.


Sadly it's doing exactly the opposite. Whereas the airport that closed was very popular and had been growing for 27 month on the run, and had acquired new destinations, including Frankfurt International and Heathrow airport, the new one is actually losing routes as airlines decided not to move some or all of their operations there.
Such is the case of British Airways and AerLingus with ther summer LHR and DUB routes respectively. jet2 is halving its offer at the airport and even Ryanair is losing a few frequencies. I expect that more losses will follow as for a sizeable number of the old airport users the location of the new one make Alicante gain in appeal. (So ALC is the real winner). The only new route announced so far has been Asturias, operated by Volotea. This airline happens to be run by a Murcian guy..

I expect that BCN by Vueling would work well given all the connections that can be made there -but then again it would also have worked at the old airport, whose closure was only done to transfer its traffic to the new vanity project, but avoiding the headlines of "ghost airport".
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OA260 wrote:
Hopefully it will boost tourism in the area. Well worth a visit I was there a few months ago.


Sadly it's doing exactly the opposite. Whereas the airport that closed was very popular and had been growing for 27 month on the run, and had acquired new destinations, including Frankfurt International and Heathrow airport, the new one is actually losing routes as airlines decided not to move some or all of their operations there.
Such is the case of British Airways and AerLingus with ther summer LHR and DUB routes respectively. jet2 is halving its offer at the airport and even Ryanair is losing a few frequencies. I expect that more losses will follow as for a sizeable number of the old airport users the location of the new one make Alicante gain in appeal. (So ALC is the real winner). The only new route announced so far has been Asturias, operated by Volotea. This airline happens to be run by a Murcian guy..

I expect that BCN by Vueling would work well given all the connections that can be made there -but then again it would also have worked at the old airport, whose closure was only done to transfer its traffic to the new vanity project, but avoiding the headlines of "ghost airport".
No ghost airport here, but definitely a smartly dressed zombie.


If the new airport keeps losing flights like that, it's only a matter of time before someone pops up the idea of closing the new airport and reopening the old one. I agree that the old airport is in a much better geographical location, right at the coast. That's where the passengers flying there want to go, so why not take them there?

To prevent the new airport from becoming a ghost airport, maybe they can do a swap? Move the military to the new airport and make the old airport a full civilian airport.
 
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Re: Spain will open its newest airport, Murcia International, on January 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:44 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:

If the new airport keeps losing flights like that, it's only a matter of time before someone pops up the idea of closing the new airport and reopening the old one. I agree that the old airport is in a much better geographical location, right at the coast. That's where the passengers flying there want to go, so why not take them there?

To prevent the new airport from becoming a ghost airport, maybe they can do a swap? Move the military to the new airport and make the old airport a full civilian airport.


I am expecting a further small reduction in capacity, but as for the local government it is a matter of pride they will do whatever it takes to keep routes and attract the odd new one, such as BCN. They already say that they are negotiating, with subsidies (or that by any other name, such as "promotion packages". It's a shame that they never did that with the old airport or its performance would have been even better.
Same with public transport. The local government is subsidising bus routes from day one for the new airport. Something they did not do for the old, and despite which it won the prize for best european airport in the under 2m pax category 3 times in recent years.
 
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Re: Spain will open its newest airport, Murcia International, on January 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:34 pm

Asturias subsidises Volotea. So this OVD-RMU IMO is subsidised but it is also a way to tell the government of Murcia that they would be happy to open some new destinations if they give them some money.

I could see BIO, somewhere in Galicia, PMI and IBZ at least.
 
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Re: Spain will open its newest airport, Murcia International, on January 2019

Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:50 pm

LupineChemist wrote:
Yeah, there are some airports that are a bit of a waste (Castellón and León come to mind here), but Murcia is a heavily used airport to an area that has poor rail connections to the rest of the country and would be quite far from Madrid regardless.

Yeah, Ciudad Real was a mess, but that was private money. In case nobody has ever been around there, there's a whole lot of nothing so no real reason not to let a bunch of private investors give construction jobs for awhile even if you don't agree with their plan.


I think there was a plan to turn the whole area into a sort of Las Vegas of Europe with a lot of casinos built around an artificial lake, but I don't know what came of that.

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