LondonXtreme
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Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:56 pm

QF has revealed plan for ULH between Sydney and London in addition to existing PER-LHR which performs fairly well. If QF eventually launch SYD/MEL-LHR. That will put BA in competitive disadvantage if BA still fly SYD via SIN. If QF is capable to fly non-stop SYD-LHR, I think BA can do as well, correct?
 
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Re: Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:07 pm

Kinda OT, but I was wondering if BA and QF would be interested in JV-ing, making a nonstop from LHR-SYD more palatable for them.
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Re: Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:34 pm

LondonXtreme wrote:
QF has revealed plan for ULH between Sydney and London in addition to existing PER-LHR which performs fairly well. If QF eventually launch SYD/MEL-LHR. That will put BA in competitive disadvantage if BA still fly SYD via SIN. If QF is capable to fly non-stop SYD-LHR, I think BA can do as well, correct?


They have QF to fly it through Oneworld, BA doesnt need to operate the route, they can use the equipment elsewhere
 
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Re: Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:38 pm

Probably not. LHR-SIN is a flight in its own right, along with SIN-SYD.
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Re: Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:48 pm

Problem will be that the ac needed for such a flight will likely be niche for ultra long haul routes. BA doesn't really have any other routes that long, so they would effectively need a subfleet for one route. Not a good idea, generally.
 
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Re: Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:14 pm

Why bother? You could make more on flying two USA or a USA/Africa rotation.
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Re: Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:23 pm

Would make sense to just funnel all their passengers through DOH and let QR do the heavy lifting into Australasia.
 
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Re: Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:48 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
Kinda OT, but I was wondering if BA and QF would be interested in JV-ing, making a nonstop from LHR-SYD more palatable for them.

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Re: Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:50 pm

The case for BA even flying to Oz is week . If anything they’ll probably drop Oz completely during the next down turn
 
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Re: Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:24 pm

Does ba codeshares on per lhr?
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Re: Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:45 pm

Galwayman wrote:
The case for BA even flying to Oz is week . If anything they’ll probably drop Oz completely during the next down turn

  • They kept it during the oil crises of both the '70s and '80s
  • They kept it during the Asian economic crisis of the late '90s
  • They kept it after the 9/11 and SARS downturns of the early '00s
  • They kept it during the fuel insanity and worldwide financial meltdown of the late '00s
  • They kept it during the huge surge in competitive capacity by VS+ME3
  • They kept it after dissolving their j/v with QF in the '10s
  • They kept it through numerous evolutions in leadership and ownership

.....thus, what in the next downturn do you envision to be the catalyst, that will make them ax that which has survived the worst of everything that the industry has ever thrown at airlines?

Particularly seeing as their owner just this year, publicly stated that not only do they remain committed to serving the region with their own metal, but that they see themselves expanding back into previous Australian service as well.

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Re: Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:43 pm

Would love to see BA back at MEL, however not non-stop and probably not any time soon but atleast they are thinking about it.
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Re: Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:33 pm

There are only really 3 major airports which are out of range from LHR with a current 787/A350; SYD, MEL and AKL. I doubt even the tweaked 777-X or a UULR A350 will make it to New Zealand. So they'd be buying a plane for 2 routes, which while there are cultural ties to, aren't critical to BA's business. QF however can benefit from using the Project Sunrise plane for direct flights from SYD and MEL to LHR and JFK, with the potential to add other major cities in Europe or North America which they can't currently serve. The opportunity is simply much greater for Qantas.

Edit: Looking again BNE would probably work with an A350ULR, but that's may be the only current plane that would get there from LHR. So arguably 4/3 routes, though it's a smaller market than SYD & MEL anyway.
 
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Re: Is BA interested in non-stop flight to Australia?

Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:55 pm

We had this exact thread about a fortnight ago :(

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