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TP newest US Destination is IAD

Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:11 pm

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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:20 pm

... cklickbait.

on topic: IAD is quite clever because it can be done with one frame in one day. West coast is usually too long for one day and one frame due to flight time and ground time.
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:24 pm

Fantastic news ¡¡¡¡
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:43 pm

ORD and IAD should be announced soon, according to sources in the company
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:50 pm

¿The A330-900 is daily?
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:52 pm

pabloeing wrote:
¿The A330-900 is daily?

5x weekly.
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:54 pm

Just in time for B6 to cancel IAD altogether, but at least they're Star Alliance.
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:58 pm

No one was going to take TP to IAD to connect to a B6 flight to JFK or BOS. Maybe when B6 flew IAD-FLL & IAD-MCO, but it has been years since they dropped those flights.
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:00 pm

Polot wrote:
pabloeing wrote:
¿The A330-900 is daily?

5x weekly.

I see in july and in the web put A330-200.................
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:12 pm

What's the schedule, I thought IAD was extremely limited for good slots at the prime times to Europe?
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:16 pm

LupineChemist wrote:
What's the schedule, I thought IAD was extremely limited for good slots at the prime times to Europe?

IAD is not slot restricted....
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:17 pm

What does this mean for the UA flight to IAD? And why is TP not focusing on markets with more limited competition? Frankly, I think even BDL or PVD in the A321LR would make more sense than this.
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:23 pm

flyguy84 wrote:
LupineChemist wrote:
What's the schedule, I thought IAD was extremely limited for good slots at the prime times to Europe?

IAD is not slot restricted....


Maybe it was gate space at prime hours then. I remember some sort of capacity restriction.
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:34 pm

LupineChemist wrote:
flyguy84 wrote:
LupineChemist wrote:
What's the schedule, I thought IAD was extremely limited for good slots at the prime times to Europe?

IAD is not slot restricted....


Maybe it was gate space at prime hours then. I remember some sort of capacity restriction.


Gate space during the afternoon bank (with lots of European departures) is the big constraint. According to this, they'll depart IAD later, I'd presume because of the gate availability.

https://onemileatatime.com/tap-air-port ... on-dulles/

TP231 Lisbon to Washington departing 4:30PM arriving 7:40PM
TP232 Washington to Lisbon departing 10:40PM arriving 10:50AM (+1 day)
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:05 pm

Are you this is with the A330neo? The schedule is news but we more or less knew that IAD, ORD, YUL, and SFO would be launched soon.
But just about everyone was sure that SFO would be launched with the A330neo because it is the only aircraft in their fleet that makes that route viable.
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:12 pm

airbazar wrote:
Are you this is with the A330neo? The schedule is news but we more or less knew that IAD, ORD, YUL, and SFO would be launched soon.
But just about everyone was sure that SFO would be launched with the A330neo because it is the only aircraft in their fleet that makes that route viable.

when the route will start how many a339 will have tp? 10? 14? i guess they'll find one for the route.
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:16 pm

blockski wrote:
TP231 Lisbon to Washington departing 4:30PM arriving 7:40PM
TP232 Washington to Lisbon departing 10:40PM arriving 10:50AM (+1 day)


With that schedule, gates won't be an issue, plus it connects with the late evening UA bank at IAD. Right now, UA's flight on IAD-LIS is scheduled at the same times, but we'll see if that lasts or if UA keeps the flight at all.
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:40 pm

blockski wrote:
LupineChemist wrote:
flyguy84 wrote:
IAD is not slot restricted....


Maybe it was gate space at prime hours then. I remember some sort of capacity restriction.


Gate space during the afternoon bank (with lots of European departures) is the big constraint. According to this, they'll depart IAD later, I'd presume because of the gate availability.

https://onemileatatime.com/tap-air-port ... on-dulles/

TP231 Lisbon to Washington departing 4:30PM arriving 7:40PM
TP232 Washington to Lisbon departing 10:40PM arriving 10:50AM (+1 day)


They could always get some prime-time space on the south Ramp and then use the mobile lounges. Qatar used to do it up until a few years ago. The tradeoff being a crappy customer experience.
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:44 pm

 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:51 pm

ual763 wrote:
They could always get some prime-time space on the south Ramp and then use the mobile lounges. Qatar used to do it up until a few years ago. The tradeoff being a crappy customer experience.

Qatar still uses the romeo hardstand gates for arrivals in the summer when SN is on the ground. TP could do the same, but they are on the ground for less time compared to QR.
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is IAD

Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:36 pm

Chicago also announced today - bookable on the web site: https://www.chicagotribune.com/business ... story.html
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:56 pm

evank516 wrote:
Just in time for B6 to cancel IAD altogether, but at least they're Star Alliance.

Star Alliance does dominate IAD compared to the other alliances. Along with UA, they got LH, AC, CA, CM, SN, SK, SA, TY, AV, NH, AI, OS, ET, and now TP all flying to IAD, and I wouldn't be surprised if LO eventually launches WAW too.
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is IAD

Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:27 pm

How about SFO which TP just announced a couple of months ago?any updates?
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is IAD

Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:34 pm

LondonXtreme wrote:
How about SFO which TP just announced a couple of months ago?any updates?


The article above states TAP is looking at adding 3 new routes to North America by Summer 2019 beyond IAD and ORD......maybe that is one of the 3?
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is....

Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:07 am

ual763 wrote:

They could always get some prime-time space on the south Ramp and then use the mobile lounges. Qatar used to do it up until a few years ago. The tradeoff being a crappy customer experience.


That's not an option with Star Alliance flights. Since virtually all Star carriers use Dulles as a hub to connect to UA, there is a need to segregate passengers between WAS bound and Transiting. The usual procedure is Star carrier arrives at A/B, then when passengers go down the ramp to mobile lounges, they are directed to either a mobile lounge that goes to IAB or one that takes them to Concourse C to utilize the Connecting Customs facility over there.

QR doesn't need this formality, and thus can remote park since all of its passengers are taken to IAB.
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is IAD

Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:13 am

I just read that IAD is going to be operated by 321neo LR
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Re: TP newest US Destination is IAD

Fri Nov 30, 2018 4:15 am

LH748 wrote:
I just read that IAD is going to be operated by 321neo LR

That would make sense during the slower months but I guess they would run the A330neo during the peak summer season.

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Re: TP newest US Destination is IAD

Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:17 pm

LH748 wrote:
I just read that IAD is going to be operated by 321neo LR


I'm starting to suspect that any equipment we see listed now for any of these new routes is just a place holder.
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is IAD

Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:58 am

Routes Online says Lisbon – Washington Dulles eff 16JUN19 5 weekly A330 with the A321neo LR from 01OCT19.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-20181202
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is IAD

Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:02 am

What's the current offer on narrow-body planes across the Atlantic? After Primera's collapse, it's just Norwegian Air International with every time a more limited service from Ireland to USA, and what else? Interesting this move of TAP to sort of pioneering the narrow-body market from a very good location like LIS.
 
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Re: TP newest US Destination is IAD

Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:23 am

a350lover wrote:
What's the current offer on narrow-body planes across the Atlantic? After Primera's collapse, it's just Norwegian Air International with every time a more limited service from Ireland to USA, and what else? Interesting this move of TAP to sort of pioneering the narrow-body market from a very good location like LIS.


They are hardly a pioneer. For starters, DL, UA, and FI fly the B752 to North America. Heck, 757 service to North America has been going on for decades with CO and BA being early players.

Air Canada
B38M YYT-LHR, YHZ-LHR

Aer Lingus
B752 DUB-PHL, DUB-BDL

Azores Airlines (SATA)
A320/A321 PDL-BOS, PDL-YYZ, PDL-PVD, PDL-YUL

British Airways
A318 JFK-LCY

WOW Air
A320/A321 KEF-BWI, KEF-PIT, KEF-BOS, KEF-ORD, KEF-DTW, KEF-EWR, KEF-YUL, KEF-STL

I'm sure I missed a few...
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Re: TP newest US Destination is IAD

Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:24 am

Well... the 757 is definitely a narrow-body plane which I had forgotten. However, the type of operation that enables made the 757 just great for a limited amount of airlines when it comes to long-haul routes. Perfect example would be Icelandair, whose network meets perfectly the 757 capabilities.

I believe we all agree the A321LR opens a whole new range of possibilities. According to Airbus "It has 100 nm more operational range than a Boeing 757-200 configured with 169 seats, 27% lower trip costs and 24% lower per seat costs". Range matters but also the fact that this plane (together with the 737MAX) enhances the most efficient operational cost on longer trips.

Thanks for the examples though. BA1 operates through SNN, non-stop on its way back JFK-LCY.

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