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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:28 am

TK787 wrote:
Craziest thing!!!
I was looking at some tickets at TK website and all of a sudden I got this message on my screen:
"Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.turkishairlines.com/" on this server"
It lasted about an hour and I could not go to the website. Is this common? Thanks.

I am surprised you are shocked this happened before few times although its been a while since it happened to the new website. Usually the phone booking doesnt work efficiently during these outages
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:45 am

TK787 wrote:
Craziest thing!!!
I was looking at some tickets at TK website and all of a sudden I got this message on my screen:
"Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.turkishairlines.com/" on this server"
It lasted about an hour and I could not go to the website. Is this common? Thanks.


You need to clear your browser cache.
Sometimes things get mixed up and the servers think that a connection might be a bot.

The website seems to be functional as of right now.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:07 pm

It could be that I usually do not know where to go, I was just checking some routes and schedules :)
I might just book a trip to Southern Europe but still concerned about the new airport and not knowing where I would connect.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:13 pm

I still think that the move should be postponed to avoid any operational issues.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:48 pm

Looks like TKs first Max 9 TC-LYA comes in late Jan or February according to this source. Does anyone what configuration they will have? Are they getting long range tanks like the 900ERs ?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:59 am

Singapore airlines has stated on their website that they will be flying to the new airport starting january.. it looks like things are about to get real!
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:02 pm

TK is announcing some interesting routes, might be seasonal; like AYT-TLV and DLM-AMM.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:58 pm

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TK is announcing some interesting routes, might be seasonal; like AYT-TLV and DLM-AMM.


Good thing they're expanding out of OTHER airports, not just Istanbul.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:23 pm

aldrigsomandre wrote:
TK787 wrote:
TK is announcing some interesting routes, might be seasonal; like AYT-TLV and DLM-AMM.


Good thing they're expanding out of OTHER airports, not just Istanbul.


Interesting that TK are opening up some bucket and spade routes to boost tourism in the regions.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:12 pm

AYT-TLV makes sense as Israelis would love a relatively cheap sun and sand destination so close. In fact there used to be regular flights in the past AFAIK.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:18 pm

leftyboarder wrote:
AYT-TLV makes sense as Israelis would love a relatively cheap sun and sand destination so close. In fact there used to be regular flights in the past AFAIK.


Yep, El Al used to fly TLV-AYT before they had to stop all their flights to Turkey. Absolutely amazing load factors as well.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:54 pm

Also quite interesting the new addition of PC from ESB to CDG (2x weekly). Their double daily Paris flights from SAW are to ORY.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:57 pm

In fact, you have Pegasus, Corendon and Onurair on the AYT-TLV route (even now in winter...). As far as I remember, KK used to serve this route as well.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:47 pm

Why has A321-271NX, TC-LSB, still not been delivered? PW engine issues?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:46 pm

Today, our partner in Belgrade as informed that Turkish Airlines has stopped transporting cargo to Iran. Almost all other airlines are still doing it. Anyone have an idea why this is? Have they cut cargo flights to Tehran? I thought they had a dedicated freighter flight.

Or is BEG blocked so as to make more room for other, larger markets out there?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:18 pm

Blerg wrote:
Today, our partner in Belgrade as informed that Turkish Airlines has stopped transporting cargo to Iran. Almost all other airlines are still doing it. Anyone have an idea why this is? Have they cut cargo flights to Tehran? I thought they had a dedicated freighter flight.

Or is BEG blocked so as to make more room for other, larger markets out there?


It might be correct. They have a freighter flight TK6550 routed IST-IKA-KHI-CMB. The last flight skipped Iran and did IST-KHI-CMB.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tk6550
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:30 am

RobK wrote:
Looks like TKs first Max 9 TC-LYA comes in late Jan or February according to this source. Does anyone what configuration they will have? Are they getting long range tanks like the 900ERs ?
I have no information but I assume yes.
Very good choice of registration as B739s have TC-JY*.



THY748i wrote:
Why has A321-271NX, TC-LSB, still not been delivered? PW engine issues?


I don't know the reason but LSA had a issue with the gearbox. Also TK decreased planned delivery number for this year from 3 to 2. LSC should come this month.



TK787 wrote:
TK is announcing some interesting routes, might be seasonal; like AYT-TLV and DLM-AMM.



TK has flown last summer season many 1-2 weekly routes from Antalya, including TLV. I don't know why Airlineroute is announcing this as new.



stylo777 wrote:
Also quite interesting the new addition of PC from ESB to CDG (2x weekly). Their double daily Paris flights from SAW are to ORY.


What is bilateral agreement with France say? Any limits? Because TK increased CDG flights too this year.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:09 am

AFAIK no restrictions/limits in frequency due to bileterals between EU and TR as long as the airport of destination can provide slots.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:10 pm

dozerman wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Today, our partner in Belgrade as informed that Turkish Airlines has stopped transporting cargo to Iran. Almost all other airlines are still doing it. Anyone have an idea why this is? Have they cut cargo flights to Tehran? I thought they had a dedicated freighter flight.

Or is BEG blocked so as to make more room for other, larger markets out there?


It might be correct. They have a freighter flight TK6550 routed IST-IKA-KHI-CMB. The last flight skipped Iran and did IST-KHI-CMB.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tk6550


Interesting, thank you. Could it be due to TK's growing presence in the US? Could they be affected by the recent sanctions?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:14 pm

Blerg wrote:
dozerman wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Today, our partner in Belgrade as informed that Turkish Airlines has stopped transporting cargo to Iran. Almost all other airlines are still doing it. Anyone have an idea why this is? Have they cut cargo flights to Tehran? I thought they had a dedicated freighter flight.

Or is BEG blocked so as to make more room for other, larger markets out there?


It might be correct. They have a freighter flight TK6550 routed IST-IKA-KHI-CMB. The last flight skipped Iran and did IST-KHI-CMB.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tk6550


Interesting, thank you. Could it be due to TK's growing presence in the US? Could they be affected by the recent sanctions?


Turkey is exempt from the sanctions AFAIK.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:05 pm

aldrigsomandre wrote:
Joelatbsl wrote:
The Fenerbahce football team will arrive in Bratislava tomorrow on a Freebird A320. They will then travel on to Trnava, where they will face Spartak Trnava in the UEFA Europa League:

http://europaleaguecharters.blogspot.co ... -2018.html


Good thing they're not going the bulk of that distance by bus this time hehe. :D
Just a 35-minute bus ride to Trnava from the small airport in Bratislava.


Well, they still lost the game in Trnava ... ;)
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:25 pm

TC-LJP, a TK 77F is on its way to Istanbul.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:13 pm

TK's international route expansion from ESB continues with Ankara Tbilisi twice weekly service starting on January 18th, 2019.
with Baku, Rome and London Gatwick also to commence in January the total number of international destinations from Ankara reaches 12 (year-round services only) Baku, Berlin, Frankfurt, Jeddah, London-Gatwick, Medina, Moscow, Paris CDG, Rome, Tbilisi, Vienna, expected year-round route additions in 2019 are Amsterdam and Brussels
Following routes are were seasonal in 2018, Tehran, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Hamburg, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, Cologne/Bonn,
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:12 pm

The latest issue of ANKER report is out and some interesting numbers for Turkish Aviation:
Nov 18 vs Nov 17 numbers:
2.4% pax decline across all airports in Turkey,
-ESB -20.7%
-AYT +27.2%
-IST +1%
-SAW +2.4%
-ADB -9.1%
-Adana -9.2%

In terms of airlines:
-TK +3.2%
-KK -39.1%
-Onur -54.2%
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:32 pm

TK787 wrote:
The latest issue of ANKER report is out and some interesting numbers for Turkish Aviation:
Nov 18 vs Nov 17 numbers:
2.4% pax decline across all airports in Turkey,
-ESB -20.7%
-AYT +27.2%
-IST +1%
-SAW +2.4%
-ADB -9.1%
-Adana -9.2%

In terms of airlines:
-TK +3.2%
-KK -39.1%
-Onur -54.2%


Shocking result for Onur. Why is that?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:35 pm

ankaraflyjet wrote:
TK's international route expansion from ESB continues with Ankara Tbilisi twice weekly service starting on January 18th, 2019.
with Baku, Rome and London Gatwick also to commence in January the total number of international destinations from Ankara reaches 12 (year-round services only) Baku, Berlin, Frankfurt, Jeddah, London-Gatwick, Medina, Moscow, Paris CDG, Rome, Tbilisi, Vienna, expected year-round route additions in 2019 are Amsterdam and Brussels
Following routes are were seasonal in 2018, Tehran, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Hamburg, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, Cologne/Bonn,


I guess they just gave up after your posts here and decided to expand from ESB;)

TK787 wrote:
The latest issue of ANKER report is out and some interesting numbers for Turkish Aviation:
Nov 18 vs Nov 17 numbers:
2.4% pax decline across all airports in Turkey,
-ESB -20.7%
-AYT +27.2%
-IST +1%
-SAW +2.4%
-ADB -9.1%
-Adana -9.2%

In terms of airlines:
-TK +3.2%
-KK -39.1%
-Onur -54.2%


I guess the economic crisis is showing its first signs.:(

In other ISL related news there are rumors of behind the scenes argument between TK and government officials about TK not willing to move on December 31st, as they think the new airport being not ready will be tough to operate from and will cause delays for customers and loss of reputation. We all know the airport is nowhere near ready, and won't be for sometime yet the investor, the government is all pushing the move. What will happen, apparently final decision this week regarding delaying or staying with the Dec 31 decision
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:18 pm

aldrigsomandre wrote:
Shocking result for Onur. Why is that?


Pretty simple.
They have allocated more fleet capacity to charters than scheduled service including overseas flying contracts.
This winter they will have 11 frames flying for other airlines.
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:46 pm

gokmengs wrote:
In other ISL related news there are rumors of behind the scenes argument between TK and government officials about TK not willing to move on December 31st, as they think the new airport being not ready will be tough to operate from and will cause delays for customers and loss of reputation. We all know the airport is nowhere near ready, and won't be for sometime yet the investor, the government is all pushing the move. What will happen, apparently final decision this week regarding delaying or staying with the Dec 31 decision

This does not surprise me at all. I really hope TK can win-out, as with all of the holiday travel it doesn't seem like a good time to move into an incomplete airport.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:14 pm

LAXintl wrote:
aldrigsomandre wrote:
Shocking result for Onur. Why is that?


Pretty simple.
They have allocated more fleet capacity to charters than scheduled service including overseas flying contracts.
This winter they will have 11 frames flying for other airlines.


Thanks for the info, I was unaware.
Where are those 11 frames at the moment apart from Saudi Arabia?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:08 pm

It has been confirmed. The move has been delayed untill march.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:43 pm

TK787 wrote:
It could be that I usually do not know where to go, I was just checking some routes and schedules :)
I might just book a trip to Southern Europe but still concerned about the new airport and not knowing where I would connect.

Here we go again. Postponed till March. Still, that does not help people like me to go ahead and buy a ticket for March. Neither all those airlines that cancelled flights around Dec 31st for a possible move :(
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:15 pm

This history around this new airport goes crazy. Unbelivable. Stressing people to finish, many workers died because of this and the end of the story: posponed from October to March (!!!). I see October 2019. Wasn't there elections in March?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:20 pm

TK787 wrote:
TK787 wrote:
It could be that I usually do not know where to go, I was just checking some routes and schedules :)
I might just book a trip to Southern Europe but still concerned about the new airport and not knowing where I would connect.

Here we go again. Postponed till March. Still, that does not help people like me to go ahead and buy a ticket for March. Neither all those airlines that cancelled flights around Dec 31st for a possible move :(

I would guess give then the length of time given, this won't be permitted to move.

And in terms of flights cancelled, I'm guessing TK targetted those that have low yields/loads on New Year's Eve, of which many do. I'm sure there was some that they really didn't mind cancelling, specifically to/from Europe/US - since no one wants to be on a plane on the evening of Dec. 31st if they can help it.

The issue with the move was less the cancelled flights for a day, and more the long-term effect operating out of a half-done airport would have on TK's reputation. Looks like they were able to get authorities to do the right thing.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:31 pm

HeyTK wrote:
It has been confirmed. The move has been delayed untill march.


Ironically, no specific date has been pronounced for March 2019 and even an official press release hasn't been done (yet)!!!

It seems that TK will be adding a few more domestic flights for the transition period. e.g. They will start GZT (Gaziantep) from 21st December and onwards. A few more domestic destinations should be added and maybe some of the current ones (like ESB & ADB) will increase to x2, daily. However, if any European services will start: that's the yet unknown point. They may start daily flights to LHR, CDG, AMS and FRA buy cutting one daily frequency from Ataturk Airport's services. However, there's a claim that EASA has not yet approved ISL and therefore it's not very "legal" to fly to European destinations until this approval is granted. (I'm not sure if this really is a valid reason!...)
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:19 pm

How many daily departures does TK have from ISL?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:51 pm

Blerg wrote:
How many daily departures does TK have from ISL?


Should be 5.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:00 pm

Actually it's going to be 8 now with the addition of GZT. Other routes are:
- ESB
- ADB
- AYT
- ADA
- TZX
- ECN (intl)
- GYD (intl)
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:08 pm

stylo777 wrote:
Actually it's going to be 8 now with the addition of GZT. Other routes are:
- ESB
- ADB
- AYT
- ADA
- TZX
- ECN (intl)
- GYD (intl)


I stand corrected. Thank you.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:35 pm

I went to the new airport last week and I can see several major problems that are likely to delay it's "big bang" opening in just 11 days:

- The car parks have dangerous 8-storey drops where the glass protecting the lifts is supposed to be. Very easy for a kid to run off and fall down one of these lift shafts or for someone that is just not looking where they're going (e.g. looking at their smartphone) to do the same.
- Only about 20% of the car park capacity is currently available to use. Other parts are unpainted and some parts even have the basic concrete structure still under construction.
- There are no rental car offices at all. Avis has a sign up but as yet no equipment or furniture.
- The arrivals level is not finished. It is impossible to leave through any of the doors connecting it to the car park and there is just one escalator at the far end to reach departures level. Most of the lifts don't work.
- Floor panels are missing in the departure area.
- Most of the offices are totally bare with wires hanging out of the walls.
- There are no restaurants, just a couple of little cafes with very low seating capacity.

My prediction is that they'll need to delay it by at least a couple of months. I don't know why they haven't announced the delay yet but I think it's inevitable. If they do try to open it in this condition the first thing that will happen is there will be huge queue of cars and angry passengers that can't find a place to park. Then someone is going to fall down one of the holes into a lift shaft. And a lot arriving passengers will be angry because they can't get a rental car and they will face long waits for transportation into the city. This is without considering any problems with the moving process itself.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:44 pm

peterinlisbon wrote:
I went to the new airport last week and I can see several major problems that are likely to delay it's "big bang" opening in just 11 days:

- The car parks have dangerous 8-storey drops where the glass protecting the lifts is supposed to be. Very easy for a kid to run off and fall down one of these lift shafts or for someone that is just not looking where they're going (e.g. looking at their smartphone) to do the same.


Thats quite alarming that the public are allowed to access that. Seems they need to get their act together and not risk safety by rushing to save face. From what people tell me locally working for TK this is indeed a disaster waiting to happen if they try to cut corners.
 
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Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:44 pm

OK, I just realized that my prediction came true today already. I think 3 months might be enough and I also think that TK is doing the right thing by ramping up their operations there slowly. They need businesses in the airport (car rental, restaurants, transportation, shops etc) to start operating and staff to get used to working there and this will only happen if there is some traffic. Plus, they can use the opportunity to alleviate some of the congestion at Ataturk given that Istanbul temporarily has 3 airports.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:57 pm

OA260 wrote:
peterinlisbon wrote:
I went to the new airport last week and I can see several major problems that are likely to delay it's "big bang" opening in just 11 days:

- The car parks have dangerous 8-storey drops where the glass protecting the lifts is supposed to be. Very easy for a kid to run off and fall down one of these lift shafts or for someone that is just not looking where they're going (e.g. looking at their smartphone) to do the same.


Thats quite alarming that the public are allowed to access that. Seems they need to get their act together and not risk safety by rushing to save face. From what people tell me locally working for TK this is indeed a disaster waiting to happen if they try to cut corners.


Somebody could be killed by the lift shafts alone and putting 150,000 passengers through in one day when it's in that condition is very likely to get someone killed. I mean, in many areas it's still basically a construction site. I walked up to it carefully and looked down the lift shaft and I was astonished - these areas are not even cordoned off or protected. I can understand why TK wanted to delay. Instead of admiration, opening in that condition would have invited criticism and derision from the world and it would have made the whole country look bad.

There was a huge train crash in Ankara last week and that was due not to problems with the signalling system but the fact that there is no signalling system at all - they were using radios and someone forgot that a section of track was occupied. And this is a line that opened years ago.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:01 am

The famous move of Ataturk Airport to new Istanbul Airport has been postponed to March 2019.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:47 am

stylo777 wrote:
Actually it's going to be 8 now with the addition of GZT. Other routes are:
- ESB
- ADB
- AYT
- ADA
- TZX
- ECN (intl)
- GYD (intl)


So all of these are operated once per day? Would be interesting to know how the loads are.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:41 am

Blerg wrote:
stylo777 wrote:
Actually it's going to be 8 now with the addition of GZT. Other routes are:
- ESB
- ADB
- AYT
- ADA
- TZX
- ECN (intl)
- GYD (intl)


So all of these are operated once per day? Would be interesting to know how the loads are.

all flights are daily and the ones I took were all full until the last seat.
with tickets sold at 59 TRY (around 10 USD) this is hardly surprising.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:27 am

I took one last week to AYT was also full and I found interesting that we have many first time flyers on that plane.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:55 am

As I posted the decision was imminent and TK and cooler heads prevailed, the problem I see with March or any future date for that matter is that pre opening the terminal was a construction zone, post ribbon cutting and EIS the construction slowed down hence you see all the uncompleted parts being left as is and moving at a snails pace. So if they once in their life used common sense instead of political gain or ego boost and postponed to march prior to October 29th the construction would proceed better and we would end up with a better result in March compared to what we will get with the current situation.
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:43 am

gokmengs wrote:
As I posted the decision was imminent and TK and cooler heads prevailed, the problem I see with March or any future date for that matter is that pre opening the terminal was a construction zone, post ribbon cutting and EIS the construction slowed down hence you see all the uncompleted parts being left as is and moving at a snails pace. So if they once in their life used common sense instead of political gain or ego boost and postponed to march prior to October 29th the construction would proceed better and we would end up with a better result in March compared to what we will get with the current situation.

The only reason for choosing March is to make a buzz just before municipality selections, nothing other than that.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:13 am

imthedreamliner wrote:
gokmengs wrote:
As I posted the decision was imminent and TK and cooler heads prevailed, the problem I see with March or any future date for that matter is that pre opening the terminal was a construction zone, post ribbon cutting and EIS the construction slowed down hence you see all the uncompleted parts being left as is and moving at a snails pace. So if they once in their life used common sense instead of political gain or ego boost and postponed to march prior to October 29th the construction would proceed better and we would end up with a better result in March compared to what we will get with the current situation.

The only reason for choosing March is to make a buzz just before municipality selections, nothing other than that.


The (New) Istanbul Airport is in a remote part of the town. It's opening or its full-scale operation will neither make anybody too happy or too sad. So, I don't really think that they postponed it just because of the forthcoming municipality elections. I believe there are far better and serious reasons than that. THY, has always had a certain influence on Turkish Civil Aviation, as an important factor when it comes to decision making. This was the same, even when TK was a Mickey Mouse Airline, way back in the past. Today, their influence has even increased more. TK had many reasons for not carrying their full operations to ISL at this year's end despite the fact that they are still pretty much congested at IST (Ataturk AP).

I personally believe that this postponement may be repeated once again to May 2019, or so. Only by that date we may be able to see TK in full flag at ISL (when it will become IST).
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Re: Turkish Aviation December 2018

Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:48 am

First A350 for TK is msn403, delivery end of 2019
msn 423, 436, 454, 468 are the next ones

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