aerokiwi wrote:aerokiwi wrote:On the 77X vs A350 selection - not too fussed myself, assuming the internal cabin carve-outs on the 77X go some way in alleviating the 10-abreast Y class issueNZ6 wrote:Is there an "issue" to resolve in the eyes of the airlines? Is this something they're demanding to be resolved or just an av-geek requirement?
There's an "issue" insomuch as I just won't fly a 10 abreast 777. From MEL to North America, NZ now has the worst Y class offering, and that's with a stopover. No wonder they have to advertise so much here - I think I'd rather take FJ, frankly.
And waiting until the mid 2020s for a new J product is a serious mistake, though wouldn't surprise me from a monopsonistic carrier like NZ. They've sown up the domestic market and frequent flyer base that will tolerate for the time being. But that's the kind of complacency that sees you relegated to a second tier carrier pretty quickly.
I raised the point of is the fixing the 10 abreast issue was an airline requirement? All I've got back is NZ's the worst Y cabin offering which is your subjective opinion of one carrier and doesn't reflect what airlines want Boeing to produce?
NZ's J cabin isn't world leading, nor are they trying to lead the market with it, remember NZ is a very small carrier on the global scale and this country isn't exactly bursting at the seems with Business/First class demand. Early to mid-2020s is when the next widebody aircraft will arrive and a new product will be installed then.
Both the 772 and 77W have been refreshed within the last 5-6 years and at the time new the investment in a new product wasn't approved by the board. Replacing it now given the cost over what it will return to the business is laughable. So while the style may be aging vs the top half a dozen carriers in the world, the actual product is reasonably new and is still a very comfortable cabin.