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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:16 am

Arion640 wrote:
SeanM1997 wrote:
Current news/route changes not covered on here:

- British Airways will add 4x weekly flights between London Heathrow (LHR) and Mumbai (BOM) from 2 June 2019 on B787-9
- British Airways will drop 4x weekly flights between London Heathrow (LHR) and Johannesburg (JNB) from 30 May 2019 on B787-9

China Southern have today applied to the CAAC for 7x weekly flights between London and Beijing Daxing (PKX) from September 2019 - https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/11 ... 1734554624


Interesting BA have dropped the 787 flight, i wonder if it will be back for peak season.


I think it will be - loads have been good. This switch is to take advantage of the reduction in capacity due to the Jet Airways shutdown and is about the best BA can do with limited airframes at short notice.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:30 am

Arion640 wrote:
SeanM1997 wrote:
Current news/route changes not covered on here:

- British Airways will add 4x weekly flights between London Heathrow (LHR) and Mumbai (BOM) from 2 June 2019 on B787-9
- British Airways will drop 4x weekly flights between London Heathrow (LHR) and Johannesburg (JNB) from 30 May 2019 on B787-9

China Southern have today applied to the CAAC for 7x weekly flights between London and Beijing Daxing (PKX) from September 2019 - https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/11 ... 1734554624


Interesting BA have dropped the 787 flight, i wonder if it will be back for peak season.


Given they have dropped the day time JNB but kept the Durban rotation (the two announced around the same time) it might indicate they aren't concerned about capacity to SA, rather the bank they can make mopping up fares to India. If they were concerned about capacity and fares, I would have expected them to can the Durban flight and funnel people through JNB.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:59 am

With Air Canada suspending their St John’s and Halifax services due to the MAX grounding, where do they stand with the “use it or lose it” rule for their Heathrow slots? With the MAX grounding likely to continue well into the Summer, the slots will not have been used the required percentage of times over the Summer timetable period. Have they been granted an exemption due to exceptional circumstances? I am not aware that any arrangements have been made to use these slots for other flights.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:21 am

Pendennis wrote:
With Air Canada suspending their St John’s and Halifax services due to the MAX grounding, where do they stand with the “use it or lose it” rule for their Heathrow slots? With the MAX grounding likely to continue well into the Summer, the slots will not have been used the required percentage of times over the Summer timetable period. Have they been granted an exemption due to exceptional circumstances? I am not aware that any arrangements have been made to use these slots for other flights.


Air Canada and Etihad Airways have applied for "force majeure" for Summer 2019 due to exceptional circumstances. Air Canada is due to MAX grounding and not having spare aircraft available to do the route. Etihad is in regards to the suspension of Jet Airways and not enough time to allocate slots. Virgin Atlantic did this in Winter 2018-19 due to Cobalt going into administration, which means they've kept the slots for Winter 2019-20.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri May 24, 2019 11:40 am

PIA are starting SIALKOT Pakistan to London as disclosed on their social media, in which I am presuming would be to London Heathrow. If it does end up being LHR, where are they getting this extra slot from?
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri May 24, 2019 1:09 pm

Not long left when they will serve Islamabad..

http://mediacentre.britishairways.com/p ... 7?ref=News
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri May 24, 2019 2:05 pm

KingB123 wrote:
PIA are starting SIALKOT Pakistan to London as disclosed on their social media, in which I am presuming would be to London Heathrow. If it does end up being LHR, where are they getting this extra slot from?


Garuda are closing there route soon, perhaps PIA gained slots from them?
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:52 pm

PIA are apparently wanting to shut down its 3 weekly karachi flights due to poor financial and porformance of the route and instead will look into increasing Islamabad (competing with BA?) and start Sialkot as discussed on PIA Forum http://historyofpia.com/forums/viewtopi ... 5feafe0ea7

From what I know PIA had 10 slot pairs for London Heathrow.
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:44 pm

From the 25 October 2019 British Airways will cease LHR to Las Palmas and the flight will be transferred to LGW.

LPA was an obvious gap for the British Airways short haul network at LGW considering that the airline flies to the other main airports of FUE, TFS and ACE in the Canary Islands.
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:46 pm

Vueling's (subsidised) LCG-LHR is not for sale after March 2020 (other routes from LCG are already on sale for S20).

Will this be the end of VY at LHR?
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:15 am

Hopefully the LCG flight will be transferred to LGW along with the rest of the Vueling routes rather than being stopped altogether.

It doesn't surprise me with Vueling ending LHR operations but on a personal level I hope that LCG is retained in one way or another by transferring it to LGW as the company that I work for often use this convenient flight to Galicia.
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:07 am

Cunard wrote:
From the 25 October 2019 British Airways will cease LHR to Las Palmas and the flight will be transferred to LGW.

LPA was an obvious gap for the British Airways short haul network at LGW considering that the airline flies to the other main airports of FUE, TFS and ACE in the Canary Islands.


Fuerteventura was cancelled last year I believe. So just Tenerife, Lanzarote and Gran Canaria.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:00 am

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Hopefully the LCG flight will be transferred to LGW along with the rest of the Vueling routes rather than being stopped altogether.

It doesn't surprise me with Vueling ending LHR operations but on a personal level I hope that LCG is retained in one way or another by transferring it to LGW as the company that I work for often use this convenient flight to Galicia.


It seems IAG is rationalising their presence in London. For instance they cut BA's LGW-BCN and VY's BCN-LHR. So now the two markets to BCN are clearly defined (BA in LHR and VY in LGW). Also they chopped all Iberia Express' routes at LHR (like OVD-LHR). They also cut VY's BCN-LTN yet they still keep FLR-LTN and AMS-LTN (Level).

There are easyJet and Ryanair flying to SCQ from LGW/STN. The city council of Coruña subsidises this flight, so it is all dependent on subsidies. Vueling could easily move the flight to LGW (SCQ-LGW) where they fly to other international destinations (AMS, BRU, CDG, FCO, ZRH).

I could eventually see BA on LHR-SCQ on a summer seasonal (e.g. 2xw) flight like they started flying to Ljubljana. Iberia used to fly SCQ-LHR years ago and now Santiago has way more tourists than 10 years ago. SCQ/Galicia will never be a massive tourism destination from London but not different than something like Slovenia.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:41 pm

Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) will launch a 1x weekly winter seasonal route between London Heathrow and Scandinavian Mountains (Sälen-Trysil). Flights start 28 December 2019
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:01 pm

LuxuryTravelled wrote:
Cunard wrote:
From the 25 October 2019 British Airways will cease LHR to Las Palmas and the flight will be transferred to LGW.

LPA was an obvious gap for the British Airways short haul network at LGW considering that the airline flies to the other main airports of FUE, TFS and ACE in the Canary Islands.


Fuerteventura was cancelled last year I believe. So just Tenerife, Lanzarote and Gran Canaria.


Yeah you are absolutely correct, LGW to FUE by British Airways is no longer.

I just checked on BA.com and there are no longer flights available to FUE. I must admit that this was news to me as I hadn't seen any announcement or I just missed any confirmation of British Airways discontinuing LGW to FUE.

With TFS moving from LHR at least all of British Airways to the Canary Islands are now concentrated at LGW even if it's minus FUE.
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:01 pm

LuxuryTravelled wrote:
Cunard wrote:
From the 25 October 2019 British Airways will cease LHR to Las Palmas and the flight will be transferred to LGW.

LPA was an obvious gap for the British Airways short haul network at LGW considering that the airline flies to the other main airports of FUE, TFS and ACE in the Canary Islands.


Fuerteventura was cancelled last year I believe. So just Tenerife, Lanzarote and Gran Canaria.
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:10 pm

VS already does las vegas (VS 155/156): so what is new here? or is it going from seasonal to year round ?
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:24 pm

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VS already does las vegas (VS 155/156): so what is new here? or is it going from seasonal to year round ?


VS transferred Las Vegas from LGW to LHR in February 2019. It was previously year round from LGW and not seasonal, it is still year round now that's it at LHR, it's flown by the B789.

As far as I'm aware VS haven't made any announcement regarding LHR to LAS going seasonal, I'm sure that Sean ( my namesake ) can verify this!
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:04 am

Cunard wrote:
mandargb wrote:
VS already does las vegas (VS 155/156): so what is new here? or is it going from seasonal to year round ?


VS transferred Las Vegas from LGW to LHR in February 2019. It was previously year round from LGW and not seasonal, it is still year round now that's it at LHR, it's flown by the B789.

As far as I'm aware VS haven't made any announcement regarding LHR to LAS going seasonal, I'm sure that Sean ( my namesake ) can verify this!


In the low season, VS did have a habit of combining flights to Vegas to do LGW-MAN-LAS when the loads were light.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:51 am

LuxuryTravelled wrote:
Cunard wrote:
mandargb wrote:
VS already does las vegas (VS 155/156): so what is new here? or is it going from seasonal to year round ?


VS transferred Las Vegas from LGW to LHR in February 2019. It was previously year round from LGW and not seasonal, it is still year round now that's it at LHR, it's flown by the B789.

As far as I'm aware VS haven't made any announcement regarding LHR to LAS going seasonal, I'm sure that Sean ( my namesake ) can verify this!


In the low season, VS did have a habit of combining flights to Vegas to do LGW-MAN-LAS when the loads were light.


Really? I didn't know that. What years did they do this in do you know?
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:24 am

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Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) will launch a 1x weekly winter seasonal route between London Heathrow and Scandinavian Mountains (Sälen-Trysil). Flights start 28 December 2019


It appears that they use one of the slots used on LHR-ARN for this 1x weekly flight, with an early morning departure from LHR.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:55 pm

From 28 March 2020, Delta Airlines will be increasing its London Heathrow to New York JFK route to 3x daily, with a new daytime flight on the JFK-LHR sector
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:55 pm

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From 28 March 2020, Delta Airlines will be increasing its London Heathrow to New York JFK route to 3x daily, with a new daytime flight on the JFK-LHR sector


Wow. More seats on LHR-JFK. I'm guessing this is an addition, rather than replacing one of the VS flights? Where did they get the slot from, if so?

Thanks
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:03 pm

8herveg wrote:
SeanM1997 wrote:
From 28 March 2020, Delta Airlines will be increasing its London Heathrow to New York JFK route to 3x daily, with a new daytime flight on the JFK-LHR sector


Wow. More seats on LHR-JFK. I'm guessing this is an addition, rather than replacing one of the VS flights? Where did they get the slot from, if so?

Thanks


I will know more tomorrow where the slot comes from once the timings are released - which will be posted on my twitter

1. Replacing Virgin Atlantic's daytime sector JFK-LHR and late evening departure LHR-JFK
2. Using the Flybe (EDI) slot which Air France gave over in S19. Currently an evening dep/arr into LHR so could easily be used for a daytime flight
3. Using the former Jet Airways/Cobalt slot which Flybe are using for GCI/IOM on a temporary basis

When timings are released, this will all become clear
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:51 pm

- London Heathrow to Seattle increases from 7 to 11 weekly (Virgin Atlantic)
- London Heathrow to Los Angeles increases from 14 to 17 weekly (Virgin Atlantic)
- Virgin Atlantic to cut its summer London Heathrow to New York JFK from 42 to 35 weekly, with Delta increasing from 14 to 21 weekly

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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:42 am

LuxuryTravelled wrote:
Cunard wrote:
mandargb wrote:
VS already does las vegas (VS 155/156): so what is new here? or is it going from seasonal to year round ?


VS transferred Las Vegas from LGW to LHR in February 2019. It was previously year round from LGW and not seasonal, it is still year round now that's it at LHR, it's flown by the B789.

As far as I'm aware VS haven't made any announcement regarding LHR to LAS going seasonal, I'm sure that Sean ( my namesake ) can verify this!


In the low season, VS did have a habit of combining flights to Vegas to do LGW-MAN-LAS when the loads were light.


Do you have a source for this as it's news to me!
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:37 am

Cunard wrote:
mandargb wrote:
VS already does las vegas (VS 155/156): so what is new here? or is it going from seasonal to year round ?


VS transferred Las Vegas from LGW to LHR in February 2019. It was previously year round from LGW and not seasonal, it is still year round now that's it at LHR, it's flown by the B789.

As far as I'm aware VS haven't made any announcement regarding LHR to LAS going seasonal, I'm sure that Sean ( my namesake ) can verify this!

VS’s 2 x weekly flights to Havana are transferring from LGW to LHR from 8th June 2020.

VS147 LHR 11:50 HAV 16:55 333 26
VS148 HAV 19:00 LHR 09:05+1 333 26

https://londonairtravel.com/2019/07/26/ ... -heathrow/
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:03 am

What’s the reason for the HAV flight moving to LHR? Seems odd a 2 x weekly flight O & D would be based out of LHR over LGW? Especially as LGW has all the other Caribbean flights.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:33 am

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What’s the reason for the HAV flight moving to LHR? Seems odd a 2 x weekly flight O & D would be based out of LHR over LGW? Especially as LGW has all the other Caribbean flights.

What reason indeed. Especially as they have already announced that they are adding Daily flights to BOM and TLV for next summer and that they also plan to add GRU. Wonder where they are getting all the extra slots from , I am guessing that 2 pairs will be the ones currently used by BE for there GCI and IOM flights .
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:41 am

LuxuryTravelled wrote:
Cunard wrote:
mandargb wrote:
VS already does las vegas (VS 155/156): so what is new here? or is it going from seasonal to year round ?


VS transferred Las Vegas from LGW to LHR in February 2019. It was previously year round from LGW and not seasonal, it is still year round now that's it at LHR, it's flown by the B789.

As far as I'm aware VS haven't made any announcement regarding LHR to LAS going seasonal, I'm sure that Sean ( my namesake ) can verify this!


In the low season, VS did have a habit of combining flights to Vegas to do LGW-MAN-LAS when the loads were light.

Not sure this was ever common, any LGW bound US pax would have had to get off and reclear security at MAN.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:22 am

skipness1E wrote:
LuxuryTravelled wrote:
Cunard wrote:

VS transferred Las Vegas from LGW to LHR in February 2019. It was previously year round from LGW and not seasonal, it is still year round now that's it at LHR, it's flown by the B789.

As far as I'm aware VS haven't made any announcement regarding LHR to LAS going seasonal, I'm sure that Sean ( my namesake ) can verify this!


In the low season, VS did have a habit of combining flights to Vegas to do LGW-MAN-LAS when the loads were light.

Not sure this was ever common, any LGW bound US pax would have had to get off and reclear security at MAN.


Why would they have to reclear security?

They go through security and any USA screening in LGW, they fly up to MAN, top up a few pax, then off to LAS. No one gets off the plane.
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:47 am

gabrielchew wrote:
skipness1E wrote:
LuxuryTravelled wrote:

In the low season, VS did have a habit of combining flights to Vegas to do LGW-MAN-LAS when the loads were light.

Not sure this was ever common, any LGW bound US pax would have had to get off and reclear security at MAN.


Why would they have to reclear security?

They go through security and any USA screening in LGW, they fly up to MAN, top up a few pax, then off to LAS. No one gets off the plane.

On the way back.......non UK screening does not match UK DfT standards so everyone needs to get off and get rescreened for the MAN-LGW leg. Am not sure this LGW-MAN double drop ever happened to be honest, I have never seen this sort of thing in recent years for the reasons above.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:50 am

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What’s the reason for the HAV flight moving to LHR? Seems odd a 2 x weekly flight O & D would be based out of LHR over LGW? Especially as LGW has all the other Caribbean flights.

Agreed, it used to make some sense having LGW play to it's strengths of UK based p2p leisure for VS with a new-ish subfleet of B744s, leaving LHR with high % Upper Class A346s and B744s.

LGW now sees fewer VS flights than MAN nowadays!
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:40 pm

Seems to me like Virgin have wanted to add JFK from LGW without growing the number of based LGW aircraft. I think the dropping of St Lucia and relocation of HAV is the equivalent of one aircraft's worth of flying? (Virgin could have reduced MCO/MBJ/BGI or Antigua from LGW to keep HAV at LGW if they had wanted, but maybe don't want to reduce frequencies on these routes?)
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:52 am

Virgin Atlantic will reduce its London Heathrow to New York JFK route from 35 to 33 weekly from 4 June 2020. The 2 slots will be used for Havana, as these are the two quietest business days and increases the number of destinations which feed can come from, especially onto Flybe routes

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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:04 am

Seems barking, if LHR-JFK is the highest revenue route on Earth and Virgin drop two rotations to feed a Cuba flight from the Isle of Man on a Q400. Frequency is meant to be all important going West in this market.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:25 am

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Seems barking, if LHR-JFK is the highest revenue route on Earth and Virgin drop two rotations to feed a Cuba flight from the Isle of Man on a Q400. Frequency is meant to be all important going West in this market.


Aren’t Delta picking up the slack though?
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:37 am

Arion640 wrote:
skipness1E wrote:
Seems barking, if LHR-JFK is the highest revenue route on Earth and Virgin drop two rotations to feed a Cuba flight from the Isle of Man on a Q400. Frequency is meant to be all important going West in this market.


Aren’t Delta picking up the slack though?


Virgin 5 daily and Delta 3 daily in Summer 2020 (plus 1 Virgin Gatwick-New York and 1 Virgin Heathrow-Newark)
Tuesdays and Saturdays from 4 June will be 4 flights on Virgin and 3 on Delta
That still provides adequate frequency (7 flights + 1 LGW + 1 LHR-EWR) for business passengers whilst serving Havana, which is growing in business passengers and helps to feed Flybe routes from Heathrow

I think its a good move by Virgin, and helps boost connectivity
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:14 am

SeanM1997 wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
skipness1E wrote:
Seems barking, if LHR-JFK is the highest revenue route on Earth and Virgin drop two rotations to feed a Cuba flight from the Isle of Man on a Q400. Frequency is meant to be all important going West in this market.


Aren’t Delta picking up the slack though?


Virgin 5 daily and Delta 3 daily in Summer 2020 (plus 1 Virgin Gatwick-New York and 1 Virgin Heathrow-Newark)
Tuesdays and Saturdays from 4 June will be 4 flights on Virgin and 3 on Delta
That still provides adequate frequency (7 flights + 1 LGW + 1 LHR-EWR) for business passengers whilst serving Havana, which is growing in business passengers and helps to feed Flybe routes from Heathrow

I think its a good move by Virgin, and helps boost connectivity


High yield passengers will not adjust their schedules to fit in with a twice weekly flight to London with virtually no feed on either end. Vast majority of business is done with the Americas. Havana is not a high yield leisure destination either.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:50 pm

Eurowings are to convert its 2x daily London Heathrow to Berlin Tegel flights to summer-seasonal, with Lufthansa Group using one of the slots to make Austrian Airlines' Vienna flights 4x daily year round, and United Airlines' Denver flight 1x daily year round

Flybe are to continue operating 6x daily flights between London Heathrow and Edinburgh in Winter 2019 (previously showing as 5x daily), whilst Guernsey will be operated year round from London Heathrow (previously summer seasonal).

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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:00 pm

So BA get a Berlin monopoly? Ouch!
Btw it’s pedantic but surely flybe feed VS/DL, not vice versa.
Good news on DEN-LHR!
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:18 pm

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So BA get a Berlin monopoly? Ouch!
Btw it’s pedantic but surely flybe feed VS/DL, not vice versa.
Good news on DEN-LHR!


London - Berlin routes:
BERLIN TEGEL
British Airways: City, Heathrow, Stansted
EasyJet: Gatwick
Eurowings: Heathrow (summer seasonal - subject to change)

BERLIN SCHÖNEFELD
EasyJet: Gatwick, Luton
Ryanair: Stansted

I wouldn't say it was a monopoly. LHR is all about feed but in terms of Berlin-London, there are plenty of options
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:15 pm

IBA eye-gouges on routes out of LHR once the competition leaves, LHR-GLA dropped frequency and prices bounced upwards once bmi gave it up, the consumer loses!

Options like CDG, AMS, FRA, MUC at least have alliance competition, MAD and DUB are IAG stitch ups, in previous years they would have been cartels.
Look at fares on Aer Lingus ORK and SNN by way of seeing how much they can charge on slots they got for free that commercially now no one would bid to compete on. Runway 3 could make such a difference to the consumer.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:49 pm

skipness1E wrote:
IBA eye-gouges on routes out of LHR once the competition leaves, LHR-GLA dropped frequency and prices bounced upwards once bmi gave it up, the consumer loses!

Options like CDG, AMS, FRA, MUC at least have alliance competition, MAD and DUB are IAG stitch ups, in previous years they would have been cartels.
Look at fares on Aer Lingus ORK and SNN by way of seeing how much they can charge on slots they got for free that commercially now no one would bid to compete on. Runway 3 could make such a difference to the consumer.


The competition comes in the form of Ryanair. ORK served from LGW, LTN and STN ~5 daily for less than £40 and SNN served from LGW and STN ~3 daily for less than £25, both on Monday.
Neither the UK's CMA and the European Commission's competition dept. have an issue with the IAG "stitch-up". Both regulators realise the market isn't LHR - SNN or LHR - ORK, but rather ex-LON as a whole.

You can argue the toss on whether FR are a worthy IAG competitor, but the regulator thinks so.

I also don't think a 3rd runway at LHR is going to change 'fortress LHR' into the oligopoly that you expect. Airlines feed their own hubs, there's no incentive for an alternative alliance airline to get in on the action between, say LHR and MAD. IB and BA cover the network traffic, EZY, FR, D8, UX cover the majority of O&D.
There isn't going to be a mad dash of new entrants ex-LHR, unless they feel the fares charged are worth committing scarce aircraft to that market (though I believe EZY will push to be the feed airline for non-IAG long-haul airlines out of LHR. I have my doubts as to whether it will be a successful strategy, however).
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:45 am

skipness1E wrote:
So BA get a Berlin monopoly? Ouch!
Btw it’s pedantic but surely flybe feed VS/DL, not vice versa.
Good news on DEN-LHR!


LH’s core priority is to feed its hubs (just as BA has its core at feeding LHR) - i.e FRA and MUC, so a traveller from BER flying with LH on a connecting flight is more likely to transit though there than LHR.

BER/TXL doesn’t have that connecting onward travel and at 2x daily you can’t say that it has the frequency on a big city pair either. Historically it is something (BER) LH have only ever flirted with - bmi starting it, and then Eurowings taking it over, its never been a priority.
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:26 pm

Flybe are ending the Heathrow - Isle of Man route from the end of October (26th). The base on the Island is also being closed too as well.

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of- ... le-of-man/

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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:19 pm

It's a shame that the Isle of Man will loose it's important link to London Heathrow after only regaining it again this year after many years without a service to London's premier airport.

Although I don't envisage it happening but it would be great news if British Airways started a London Heathrow link to the Isle of Man. Flights to the island by British Airways BACF ''albeit Loganair aircraft'' are currently flown from London City and with Jersey continuously remaining at London Gatwick I can't see it happening but as I mentioned it would be great news if British Airways did announce LHR to IOM.
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:48 am

It looks like it is the end of the road for Vueling at LHR.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... arch-2020/

Vueling in summer 2020 appears to be discontinuing A Coruna – London Heathrow route, as the airline filed service up to 28MAR20. This route is operated by Airbus A320 aircraft on daily basis.

VY7104 LCG1820 – 1925LHR 320 D
VY7105 LHR2025 – 2325LCG 320 D
 
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Re: London Heathrow (LHR) 2019 New Routes

Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:27 am

SCQ83 wrote:
It looks like it is the end of the road for Vueling at LHR.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... arch-2020/

Vueling in summer 2020 appears to be discontinuing A Coruna – London Heathrow route, as the airline filed service up to 28MAR20. This route is operated by Airbus A320 aircraft on daily basis.

VY7104 LCG1820 – 1925LHR 320 D
VY7105 LHR2025 – 2325LCG 320 D



Is that not just up to the end of the Winter 19 schedule....???
Expect Summer 20 schedule to be filed in due course.

Edit:.... However , have heard rumours the City will pull the funding for the route.

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