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Double Diversion

Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:40 pm

These folks are having a really bad day: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KCVG/KATL

0612 Leave CVG for TRI .... circle at destination and return to CVG
1004 Leave CVG for TRI .... circle at destination and divert to ATL
Now waiting at ATL to complete journey to TRI.

Anyone know if this is a positioning flight or a charter with pax? I feel bad for all involved as the weather in the Appalachians and Carolinas-Virginia is brutal.
 
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Re: Double Diversion

Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:09 pm

Wow, that's wild.

I think this was a positioning flight. It looked like Delta sent a number of flights from airports in the Southeast (including BNA, CLT, AVL, TRI, GSP, and GSO) to CVG last night to escape the ice. I think there were three 717 flights from CLT alone.
 
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Re: Double Diversion

Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:55 pm

The high flight number and the CVG-TRI original route tells me this is a charter, probably a college sports team. That being said, Virginia and the Carolinas (and evidently eastern Tennessee) are seeing up to a couple feet of snow, so no one is having a very good day.
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Re: Double Diversion

Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:04 pm

BWIAirport wrote:
The high flight number and the CVG-TRI original route tells me this is a charter, probably a college sports team. That being said, Virginia and the Carolinas (and evidently eastern Tennessee) are seeing up to a couple feet of snow, so no one is having a very good day.


I had a similar thought when I saw one of the flight numbers. But I looked up the local sports teams' schedules and couldn't figure out what the charter would be for. And I did a little more browsing on Flightaware and saw about a dozen positioning flights yesterday afternoon and evening headed to CVG from various points in the Southeast. I suspect that Delta flew these aircraft out of the inclement weather (so as to avoid icing?). It looks like many of the flights returned to the outstations in the Southeast early this morning.

I was surprised that Delta positioned the aircraft to CVG as opposed to ATL, but maybe there is a lack of gate space there?
 
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Re: Double Diversion

Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:11 pm

If it was a positioning flight, then they were in a quite a rush to get it to TRI this AM. Perhaps to serve as DL947 a 7:48a departure TRI-ATL today.
Still I am surprised their weather information was not better this AM.
Now I imagine they just want it there for tomorrow's DL947 operation, or to upgauge a regional jet departure for this evening if they have the crew time to do so.
 
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Re: Double Diversion

Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:22 pm

I'm almost positive DL placed the TRI (RON) aircraft at CVG due to the storm and then tried to do CVG-TRI early this morning but couldn't get in and went for ATL due to conditions at TRI. Tail number for this flight is N3744F and the aircraft is at ATL preparing for a round-trip to TRI...TRI probably lacks the state of the art de-ice equipment found at airports slightly north. Better to stay away vs having a Boeing stuck due to lack of de-ice fluid required to clean a 737 in the morning! It seems DL didn't win in this case, burned more fuel flying around empty then if they had just over-nighted something?
 
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Re: Double Diversion

Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:40 pm

There's some nasty weather in east TN today among other states.
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Re: Double Diversion

Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:23 pm

The forecast for this event was very uncertain, because of where the freezing line was forcasted to be. I think they moved aircraft out of the SE because of expected Freezing rain (much more difficult to de ice than snow). The thinking was that ATL could possibly get some ice this morning, and there is not a lot of Deice capability in ATL, so they moved the aircraft north To CVG, CVG has tons of ramp space, and is also a crew base.
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Re: Double Diversion

Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:15 am

If you want to look at double diversions, look up BE308 on 26 November 2018.

Scheduled Flybe flight from Dublin, Ireland (DUB) to Exeter, England (EXT) STD 20:55, STA 22:05 on a Q400, a great circle distance of 357 km, average flight time 47 minutes.

Left Dublin 21:14, entered Holding Pattern at EXT 21:56
Left Holding Pattern EXT 22:14, diverted to Southampton, England (SOU). Entered Holding Pattern there 22:32
Left Holding Pattern SOU 22:55, diverted to Bristol, England (BRS). Landed 23:16.

I was watching FR24 that night, there were at least two other BE Q400s diverted from EXT the same evening, but both went straight to BHX (one coming from AMS, one from MAN), so it must have been pretty stormy in the Southwest that night.
 
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Re: Double Diversion

Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:58 pm

I think this is positioning. Most charters at DL are usually 8XXX numbers.
 
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Re: Double Diversion

Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:21 pm

Yes, positioning for the early flight as two normal RONs were shipped out Saturday evening.
 
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Re: Double Diversion

Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:06 am

DL ended running that aircraft from TRI-ATL for pax service as Flight 947 at 5:38p. So it goes down as a 10-hour delayed departure instead of a cancellation due to weather.

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