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FATFlyer wrote:As I just posted on the OAG thread and will add here for discussion.
Per Travelocity, the schedule will be:
UA 5120 dep SCK 7:41am arr LAX 9:10am
UA 5032 dep SCK 3:00pm arr LAX 4:29pm
UA 5056 dep LAX 1:00pm arr SCK 2:22pm
UA 5097 dep LAX 5:10pm arr SCK 6:32pm
A long overnight time at SCK.
williaminsd wrote:FATFlyer wrote:As I just posted on the OAG thread and will add here for discussion.
Per Travelocity, the schedule will be:
UA 5120 dep SCK 7:41am arr LAX 9:10am
UA 5032 dep SCK 3:00pm arr LAX 4:29pm
UA 5056 dep LAX 1:00pm arr SCK 2:22pm
UA 5097 dep LAX 5:10pm arr SCK 6:32pm
A long overnight time at SCK.
Time for a quick RT to SFO?
ahj2000 wrote:williaminsd wrote:FATFlyer wrote:As I just posted on the OAG thread and will add here for discussion.
Per Travelocity, the schedule will be:
UA 5120 dep SCK 7:41am arr LAX 9:10am
UA 5032 dep SCK 3:00pm arr LAX 4:29pm
UA 5056 dep LAX 1:00pm arr SCK 2:22pm
UA 5097 dep LAX 5:10pm arr SCK 6:32pm
A long overnight time at SCK.
Time for a quick RT to SFO?
SCK is an hour and a half from SFO, isn’t it? Is that really worth a flight?
ahj2000 wrote:williaminsd wrote:FATFlyer wrote:As I just posted on the OAG thread and will add here for discussion.
Per Travelocity, the schedule will be:
UA 5120 dep SCK 7:41am arr LAX 9:10am
UA 5032 dep SCK 3:00pm arr LAX 4:29pm
UA 5056 dep LAX 1:00pm arr SCK 2:22pm
UA 5097 dep LAX 5:10pm arr SCK 6:32pm
A long overnight time at SCK.
Time for a quick RT to SFO?
SCK is an hour and a half from SFO, isn’t it? Is that really worth a flight?
mtnwest1979 wrote:Hasn't SCK received SCADS funds for a LAX route in the past? Finally coming to fruition?
Glad to see SCK get a 'normal' airline again.
FATFlyer wrote:As I just posted on the OAG thread and will add here for discussion.
Per Travelocity, the schedule will be:
UA 5120 dep SCK 7:41am arr LAX 9:10am
UA 5032 dep SCK 3:00pm arr LAX 4:29pm
UA 5056 dep LAX 1:00pm arr SCK 2:22pm
UA 5097 dep LAX 5:10pm arr SCK 6:32pm
A long overnight time at SCK.
AirFiero wrote:FATFlyer wrote:As I just posted on the OAG thread and will add here for discussion.
Per Travelocity, the schedule will be:
UA 5120 dep SCK 7:41am arr LAX 9:10am
UA 5032 dep SCK 3:00pm arr LAX 4:29pm
UA 5056 dep LAX 1:00pm arr SCK 2:22pm
UA 5097 dep LAX 5:10pm arr SCK 6:32pm
A long overnight time at SCK.
Indeed. That just screams there must be another flight or two to come.
DesertAir wrote:I am happy that UA is returning. Stockton was my hometown airport for many years. When I was a child my father took me to the airport to see the United prop milk run flights from SFO and LAX pass through the airport. Over the years I flew: UAX, USX, Golden Gate, Air Pacific (Calif. operation) PSA and Pacific Express.
mtnwest1979 wrote:DesertAir wrote:I am happy that UA is returning. Stockton was my hometown airport for many years. When I was a child my father took me to the airport to see the United prop milk run flights from SFO and LAX pass through the airport. Over the years I flew: UAX, USX, Golden Gate, Air Pacific (Calif. operation) PSA and Pacific Express.
I was there when Frontier started service and also my dad would fly Air Pacific DHT to Sf connecting for business trips. Always fun in winter fig days. Just drove to SFO.
wedgetail737 wrote:mtnwest1979 wrote:DesertAir wrote:I am happy that UA is returning. Stockton was my hometown airport for many years. When I was a child my father took me to the airport to see the United prop milk run flights from SFO and LAX pass through the airport. Over the years I flew: UAX, USX, Golden Gate, Air Pacific (Calif. operation) PSA and Pacific Express.
I was there when Frontier started service and also my dad would fly Air Pacific DHT to Sf connecting for business trips. Always fun in winter fig days. Just drove to SFO.
I remember Frontier’s afternoon flight to or from SCK as part of a loop to/from DEN.
Ionosphere wrote:It's operated by OO, I wonder if this is an at risk flight?
LAX772LR wrote:EQP?
intotheair wrote:LAX772LR wrote:EQP?
The Devil's Chariot, what else?
Trying to book by starting a search on UA's website still says SCK is an invalid destination, though I was able to build an itinerary on Google Flights and click through onto UA's site.
MO11 wrote:AirFiero wrote:FATFlyer wrote:As I just posted on the OAG thread and will add here for discussion.
Per Travelocity, the schedule will be:
UA 5120 dep SCK 7:41am arr LAX 9:10am
UA 5032 dep SCK 3:00pm arr LAX 4:29pm
UA 5056 dep LAX 1:00pm arr SCK 2:22pm
UA 5097 dep LAX 5:10pm arr SCK 6:32pm
A long overnight time at SCK.
Indeed. That just screams there must be another flight or two to come.
That just screams that the crew leaving the airplane at 630pm will pick it up again the next morning.
AirFiero wrote:MO11 wrote:AirFiero wrote:
Indeed. That just screams there must be another flight or two to come.
That just screams that the crew leaving the airplane at 630pm will pick it up again the next morning.
For 13 hours? Doesn’t seem like efficient utilization. Is there a maintenance base there?
drdisque wrote:OO CRJ utilization is low, having one sit in SCK for 13 hours isn't the end of the world.
AirFiero wrote:drdisque wrote:OO CRJ utilization is low, having one sit in SCK for 13 hours isn't the end of the world.
Ok, I didn’t know if this is typical. Just seems like a long time to have an aircraft on the ground not being used.
jetmatt777 wrote:AirFiero wrote:drdisque wrote:OO CRJ utilization is low, having one sit in SCK for 13 hours isn't the end of the world.
Ok, I didn’t know if this is typical. Just seems like a long time to have an aircraft on the ground not being used.
Might be the “cost of doing business” for an LAX departure. It is an unusually long ground time even for a crew to quick overnight; so maybe there wasn’t gate space at lax or aircraft availability later in the day. As mentioned, CRJ’s are paid for and there is no shortage of them so a few extra hours isn’t going to hurt.
AirFiero wrote:jetmatt777 wrote:AirFiero wrote:
Ok, I didn’t know if this is typical. Just seems like a long time to have an aircraft on the ground not being used.
Might be the “cost of doing business” for an LAX departure. It is an unusually long ground time even for a crew to quick overnight; so maybe there wasn’t gate space at lax or aircraft availability later in the day. As mentioned, CRJ’s are paid for and there is no shortage of them so a few extra hours isn’t going to hurt.
Does UA at SFO have an evening connecting bank that the aircraft could be used to do an evening turn?
ahj2000 wrote:williaminsd wrote:FATFlyer wrote:As I just posted on the OAG thread and will add here for discussion.
Per Travelocity, the schedule will be:
UA 5120 dep SCK 7:41am arr LAX 9:10am
UA 5032 dep SCK 3:00pm arr LAX 4:29pm
UA 5056 dep LAX 1:00pm arr SCK 2:22pm
UA 5097 dep LAX 5:10pm arr SCK 6:32pm
A long overnight time at SCK.
Time for a quick RT to SFO?
SCK is an hour and a half from SFO, isn’t it? Is that really worth a flight?
CWizard wrote:Born and raised in Stockton and flew in and out via United way back when.....
Can't imagine spending the night there, at least anywhere near the airport.
Fifty or sixty years ago it was a good town. It had its "rough" side, but a
good town. Since it has, sadly, become one of the top ten welfare ghettos in the
country and a place to be from, but not live there.
Wingtips56 wrote:CWizard wrote:Born and raised in Stockton and flew in and out via United way back when.....
Can't imagine spending the night there, at least anywhere near the airport.
Fifty or sixty years ago it was a good town. It had its "rough" side, but a
good town. Since it has, sadly, become one of the top ten welfare ghettos in the
country and a place to be from, but not live there.
But was thrilling to be driving down Hwy 99 as a landing, screaming UA DC-8 flew over, just barely above the big rigs. SCK's version of Sint Maarten's (SXM) Maho Beach.
BoeingGuy wrote:
Pretty sure that UA never flew DC-8s to SCK. That was part of the 737-200 milk runs.
UA did at times schedule DC-8s to FAT though.
shaneam12 wrote:AirFiero wrote:MO11 wrote:
That just screams that the crew leaving the airplane at 630pm will pick it up again the next morning.
For 13 hours? Doesn’t seem like efficient utilization. Is there a maintenance base there?
I’m pretty sure it’s for crew rest. Instead of the crew staying over again in SCK for a whole other day, they get off in the evening and fly back in the same aircraft the next morning.
CWizard wrote:Born and raised in Stockton and flew in and out via United way back when.....
Can't imagine spending the night there, at least anywhere near the airport.
Fifty or sixty years ago it was a good town. It had its "rough" side, but a
good town. Since it has, sadly, become one of the top ten welfare ghettos in the
country and a place to be from, but not live there.
CWizard wrote:I was going to say, many, but I don't really remember, so let's say, a few airlines used the Stockton airport to practice landings and touch and goes. As a teenager I use to drive out there and park on the frontage road at the end of the runway and watch. Jets of all sizes came and went. IIRC, it is a 10,000 foot runway.
FATFlyer wrote:The terminal had a facade attached which included a sign reading "Welcome to Uganda". Some arriving passengers back then probably did a double take when seeing that sign.
Aliqiout wrote:ahj2000 wrote:williaminsd wrote:
Time for a quick RT to SFO?
SCK is an hour and a half from SFO, isn’t it? Is that really worth a flight?
Of course not if you are going to SFO, but like all close outstation-hub flights that's not who this would be for. It is certainly worth it to avoid the 1.5 hour drive, plus higher parking costs plus traffic uncertainties, plus longer lines...
In 2017, the San Joaquin County Board of Supervisors considered adding “San Francisco” to the name of Stockton’s airport in an effort to draw more attention to the area and drum up more business. Though San Francisco International Airport’s director and a Bay Area congresswoman objected, SFO officials helped bring the service to Stockton.
“That drew the attention of San Francisco airport,” said San Joaquin County District 3 Supervisor Tom Patti, a member of the San Joaquin County Aviation Advisory Committee. “They’re overburdened with some of these small flights and they want to bring less traffic to SFO, and they know this region is underserved.”
http://www.recordnet.com/news/20181219/stockton-airport-adding-new-service-to-los-angeles/1
When Stockton Airport considered changing its name last year to include “San Francisco,” executives at San Francisco International met with Stockton Airport executives and county officials, according to Patti, who represents parts of Lathrop, Manteca and Stockton.
During the meetings, San Francisco International said they were overburdened by flights, Patti said, and helped facilitate the conversations with United Airways that resulted in the new direct flights from Stockton to Los Angeles.
http://www.lodinews.com/news/article_eec7afc6-042a-11e9-b237-b3bf03219b50.html