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Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:03 pm

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ty-454467/

Tokyo's international gateway airport NRT has projects underway in the coming decade, regarding operating hours, runways, and terminals, according to Koji Takahashi, vice-president of Narita International Airport Corporation’s sales and marketing department
Highlights:
* In the wake of Tokyo Olympics 2020, NRT's closing time will extend to midnight
* Its hourly aircraft movements will increase from 68 to 72
* The current 2,500m long 16L/34R rwy will be extended to 3,500m, plus the building of a 3rd 3,500m long runway, as local community finally agreed on the expansion project
* Long term, its 300,000 annual slots will grow to 500,000


So, NRT is finally getting ready to seriously up its game, which is long overdue

Congrats :thumbsup:
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:07 pm

Very good news, though I wonder if it's too late, particularly if HND sees a significant increase in international slots.
 
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:32 pm

Finally! Now only if DL would add some more flights so I can have an alternative to JAL, ANA or UA. :/
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:40 pm

Covered earlier >>>>

Narita cleared to extend hours, build new runway
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:50 pm

Only logical with the huge increase of the number of foreign visitors to Japan in recent years. Most international airports in Japan are showing large growth numbers. Narita also grew but not as much as they could have done if these restrictions were lifted earlier.
 
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:27 pm

When I was last there a few weeks ago, a lot of ground clearance work is being done right under the finals for 34R, is that the beginning of the extention works or something else ?
 
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:31 pm

Admittedly, I have not kept up on NRT for a while, but I was surprised to read this. I thought NRT was losing flights to HND ever since HND started allowing more long-distance flights. Apparently, I am wrong on this...what's filled the loss at NRT (i.e. - like DL dismantling, UA, etc.)
 
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:19 pm

Access is still an issue and only a Shinkansen station at NRT would solve that.
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:42 pm

kaitak wrote:
Very good news, though I wonder if it's too late, particularly if HND sees a significant increase in international slots.


Tokyo will probably have a population of 40M+ when this work is done so I’d imagine no amount of HND flights will cover all of Tokyo’s needs.
 
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:56 pm

incitatus wrote:
Access is still an issue and only a Shinkansen station at NRT would solve that.

For travellers going to/from the city of Tokyo, not really, as the Keisei Skyliner service is already pretty close to what they expected to offer with the Narita Shinkansen project, (36 minutes vs 30 minutes access time to terminal within the city). The station location for Skyliner isn't very convenient but then the planned platform for Narita Shinkansen at Tokyo station is supposed to be where the Keiyo line platform currently locate at (the line that go to Disneyland) and that isn't really convenient for Tokyo-O&D passengers either. What the skyliner currently missing compared to the original proposal is just the pre-flight check in and also straightforward connection to rest of Japan via Shinkansen network.
Now, a proposal have already been made to construct a new rail line that will connect the Keisei line to the Keikyu line toward Haneda airport with a stop near Tokyo station and will further improve access to both airports. But that will be something longer term as it's competing resources against two other railway projects that will improve access to Haneda and that two other projects seems to have higher viability than this.
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:01 pm

This would have been awesome in the 1980s. NRT had the opportunity to become a fortress hub for North America to Asia. Instead they let ICN, HKG, PEK, PVG, and others grow

kaitak wrote:
Very good news, though I wonder if it's too late, particularly if HND sees a significant increase in international slots.

It helps Tokyo a bit. The great opportunity was forfeited.

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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:18 pm

EBiafore99 wrote:
Admittedly, I have not kept up on NRT for a while, but I was surprised to read this. I thought NRT was losing flights to HND ever since HND started allowing more long-distance flights. Apparently, I am wrong on this...what's filled the loss at NRT (i.e. - like DL dismantling, UA, etc.)

NRT is now very busy with LCC's, where a generation ago it was nearly all 747's. All the Korean LCC's are present multi-daily and so are other Asian LCC's like Scoot, Tiger, HK Express, HK Airlines, Thai AirAsia, Cebu Pacific. And let's not forget the based Japanese LCC's Vanilla, JetStar and Spring, with a few Peach flights for good measure.
 
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:22 pm

Is that farm(s) still on the field or did that get resolved? I seem to remember a bunch of extra fences also in my two visits to the airport?
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:51 pm

incitatus wrote:
Access is still an issue and only a Shinkansen station at NRT would solve that.


I was happy with NEX when I used it 3 years ago . . if you don't have too much luggage you can continue on JR to your destination with no problem
 
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:16 pm

Even had Narita expanded years ago the advent of efficient mid sized twins and alliances would have led to lack of hubbing through Tokyo, except for ANA and JAL.

It still seems a bit strange to think of Narita with more than one runway.
 
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Re: Tokyo Narita lays out plan to nearly double slot capacity

Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:25 pm

The OP’s FlightGlobal link mentions a possible fourth terminal. Where would that be built?

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