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malaebulak
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Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:32 am

Lusa article, in Portuguese: http://noticias.sapo.tl/portugues/info/ ... 29807.html

There was an engine fire on flight SJ271 flying from Dili (Timor-Leste) to Denpasar (Indonesia) on 15/12. The fire occurred minutes after taking off from Dili.

My friend, who was on the flight, reports that two loud bangs came from the right hand side of the aircraft just after takeoff, after which there were bursts of orange flames coming from the right engine. Some passengers alerted the flight attendants, who immediately panicked and, without asking any further questions, went onto the announcement system, yelling “FIRE! FIRE! FIRE!”. Panic followed, and passengers were told by the flight attendants to put on their life jackets. Flight attendants told the passengers that the plane was going back to Dili, but 15 min after the plane was still going towards Denpasar. During that time no announcements were made. After a while flight attendants told passengers everything was "normal" and the plane continued to Denpasar.

Sriwijaya gave no formal explanation to the passengers. When they disembarked the captain was standing near the door, and he just nodded when passengers tried to talk to him.

This incident raises a few questions:
  • Is it standard procedure to go to the nearest airport (DIL in this case) after an engine fire, or can it be safer to continue the flight?
  • Are we correct in saying the response from the flights attendants was totally inappropriate? If anything they should keep the passengers calm, not freak out themselves.
  • Are captains encouraged to explain to passengers what happens when technical problems occur?
  • How can one find out more about what happened during this flight?

FR24 shows the plane ascending in stages, and speed decreasing slightly in the beginning of the flight: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... e#1ee01431
After landing the plane stayed at DPS for more than 24 hours.
 
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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:37 am

Stayed in DPS that long to clean the seats.
 
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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:46 am

I do think the flight attendants response was over dramatic. But couldn’t comment - perhaps they were following their internal procedure? Perhaps best to prepare the cabin for a ditching than wait for instructions? Tech crew at probably very busy. And I’d prefer my tech crew focused on flying - no need for a PA nice to have but I’d rather they did that on the ground.

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Communicate?
 
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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:54 am

That's not how flight attendants should react.
 
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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:55 am

No way if that was an actual engine fire would they have continued on to their destination. Two bangs and flames coming from the engine while at a higher power setting sounds like the classic symptoms of a compressor stall. The 24 hrs on the ground would be plenty of time for maintenance personnel to perform the required checks on the engine after a compressor stall.
 
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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:30 am

Hi: May some one dare to tell type of plane-engine?

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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:16 am

It was a 737-800 From FlightRadar24: 15 Dec 2018 Dili (DIL) Denpasar (DPS) B738 (PK-CRE)
 
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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:23 am

Thanks.
Which Engine please?
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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:36 pm

ish2dachoppa wrote:
No way if that was an actual engine fire would they have continued on to their destination. Two bangs and flames coming from the engine while at a higher power setting sounds like the classic symptoms of a compressor stall. The 24 hrs on the ground would be plenty of time for maintenance personnel to perform the required checks on the engine after a compressor stall.


Yep, the Lusa article linked above mentions that "there was a problem of air circulation in the compressor". Any idea how frequent compressor stalls are? And whether planes usually divert to the nearest airport when they occur?
 
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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:06 pm

Apprentice wrote:
Thanks.
Which Engine please?
Rgds


There is only one engine option for the 737-800
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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:11 pm

Not to make light of the situation, which seems to have been exacerbated by the flight crew, but of course this was my first thought:

Image

And this:

Image
 
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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:09 pm

Spacepope wrote:
Apprentice wrote:
Thanks.
Which Engine please?
Rgds


There is only one engine option for the 737-800

Hi: Good an complete answer.
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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:28 pm

PSAatSAN4Ever wrote:
Not to make light of the situation, which seems to have been exacerbated by the flight crew, but of course this was my first thought:

Image

And this:

Image


I appreciate your sense of humor. I imagined something like this as well.

I can't read Portuguese, but sounds like one person's account only, so as always there must be more to the story. I wouldn't expect any word from the cockpit immediately, but certainly would if the flight was continuing on.
 
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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:04 pm

spinkid wrote:
PSAatSAN4Ever wrote:
Not to make light of the situation, which seems to have been exacerbated by the flight crew, but of course this was my first thought:

Image

And this:

Image


I appreciate your sense of humor. I imagined something like this as well.

I can't read Portuguese, but sounds like one person's account only, so as always there must be more to the story. I wouldn't expect any word from the cockpit immediately, but certainly would if the flight was continuing on.


Since the flight went on and no one was injured, I hoped it would come across as humor, not being morbid. I imagine we might not be the only ones to have had this image come to might, though...

The article, when translated by Google Chrome, makes very no mention of the cabin of the aircraft. However, it's very strangely worded, making me wonder what the author's intent was...
 
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Re: Engine fire on flight SJ271 Dil-DPS 15/12/2018

Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:52 am

Spacepope wrote:
Apprentice wrote:
Thanks.
Which Engine please?
Rgds


There is only one engine option for the 737-800


And that's CFM56

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