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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:47 pm

ilari wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Just noticed this tweet. Unless I misunderstood, it seems that Finnair has applied for slots at LGW for flights to HEL and obtained them! I'm really glad if so!


That's what it says... It's been some 15 years or so since AY last did HEL-LGW.


They now have scheduled flights LGW to IVL and KTT in Lapland, a couple of times/week. HEL-LGW sounds good but what would be their reason for that?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:01 am

Icelandair increases Reykjavík Keflavík–Helsinki service from 9 to 14 weekly as of May 15, 2020.

FI346 KEF 11:00 – 17:20 HEL 7M8 (Daily)
FI347 HEL 18:20 – 18:45 KEF 7M8 (Daily)

Boeing 737 MAX 8 is listed as an operating aircraft but further changes may occur.

In S20, there will be 23 weekly flights between HEL and KEF, up from 16 weekly in S19.

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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:31 am

MareBorealis wrote:
They now have scheduled flights LGW to IVL and KTT in Lapland, a couple of times/week. HEL-LGW sounds good but what would be their reason for that?

Well BA has some longhauls from LGW and LHR is rather busy. So to add more capacity on the HEL-LON you fly to the other airports.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:40 am

MareBorealis wrote:
ilari wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Just noticed this tweet. Unless I misunderstood, it seems that Finnair has applied for slots at LGW for flights to HEL and obtained them! I'm really glad if so!


That's what it says... It's been some 15 years or so since AY last did HEL-LGW.


They now have scheduled flights LGW to IVL and KTT in Lapland, a couple of times/week. HEL-LGW sounds good but what would be their reason for that?


Finnair has a few destinations where they serve multiple airports such as Tokyo, Beijing and Stockholm.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:58 am

Is the integration of BA and AY about passengers who are changing aircraft primarily at Heathrow or at Helsinki ? If it's about pax who are flying via Helsinki between the UK and east Asia, then a LGW-HEL route might be worthwhile
 
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Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:25 pm

Apparently, Finnair's CEO Topi Manner had a meeting with China Southern today. I believe one of the topics were strenghtening of the partnership between AY and CZ. Maybe codeshare routes from PKX coming up?

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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:26 pm

SE-ROG, SAS 31st A320neo has been delivered. This one in the old colours

Airbus A320 -251N 9089 SE-ROG SAS delivery 29nov19 XFW-ARN
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:48 pm

SK1641 from CPH to HAM has diverted to HAJ. Aircraft ES-ATC.
Does anyone know the reason? It seems HAM was operating as normal.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:00 pm

ilari wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Just noticed this tweet. Unless I misunderstood, it seems that Finnair has applied for slots at LGW for flights to HEL and obtained them! I'm really glad if so!

That's what it says... It's been some 15 years or so since AY last did HEL-LGW.

I remember my first flight on Finnair twenty years ago. In two hours and 25 minutes I travelled from London Gatwick to Helsinki by MD-80. The return trip three weeks later took two hours and 48 minutes. It was my first visit to Finland as well. My most recent Finnair experience was a same day return Helsinki - London Heathrow two months ago. The A350 was a big difference compared to the MD-80. Both types gave me good memories though!
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:11 pm

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SAS has just released the seatmap for the A321LR. As expected the Economy Plus sextips is 2-2 konfig and 3 rows. So a very good premium economy offering in a rather private cabin

Sextips?

Damn you autocorrect! :D
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:06 am

MartijnNL wrote:
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SAS has just released the seatmap for the A321LR. As expected the Economy Plus sextips is 2-2 konfig and 3 rows. So a very good premium economy offering in a rather private cabin

Sextips?

Damn you autocorrect! :D


Oooops, but that was actually good :p
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:58 am

Any Finns out there could give me more info on the strike, like will it happen again? I'm flying ARN-CGK with AY/CX next week (same booking published by AY) and I want to know will AY help me to sort stuff up with CX if poop hits the fan blade lol!
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:30 am

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Any Finns out there could give me more info on the strike, like will it happen again? I'm flying ARN-CGK with AY/CX next week (same booking published by AY) and I want to know will AY help me to sort stuff up with CX if poop hits the fan blade lol!

It's settled now. So no strikes incoming.
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:03 pm

I don't know how reliable the source is but I happened to notice the following:

Per mobilanyheter.net, Finnair's Scandinavian chief, Robert Lönnblad, has said regarding Airbus A220 that AY "expects to be able to notify before the turn of the year". This isn't far-fetched as the narrow-body order might be placed as soon as next year and A220 indeed fits the Finnair fleet well.
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Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:36 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
Just noticed this tweet. Unless I misunderstood, it seems that Finnair has applied for slots at LGW for flights to HEL and obtained them! I'm really glad if so!

Apparently, 14 slots have been allocated for AY at LGW so we might even see 2 daily flights to Gatwick in S20. However, the document shows that AY applied for up to 28 slots.

Gatwick Airport – Initial Coordination Report
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:39 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Just noticed this tweet. Unless I misunderstood, it seems that Finnair has applied for slots at LGW for flights to HEL and obtained them! I'm really glad if so!

Apparently, 14 slots have been allocated for AY at LGW so we might even see 2 daily flights to Gatwick in S20. However, the document shows that AY applied for up to 28 slots.

Gatwick Airport – Initial Coordination Report


AFAIK, these are single slots, not pairs. So 14 = one daily flight
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:20 am

SAS' LN-TUF, LN245, and a 737-700 delivered to then Braathens in 1999, is scheduled to leave the fleet later today. So that should be 23 active 737-700s left in SAS' fleet
 
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:53 pm

AY will introduce Premium Economy class on U.S. routes in 4Q 2020.

The first premium economy cabin will be installed in one of the airline’s Airbus A330-300s in 4Q 2020, with all refurbishments to be completed by 2022.

[...]

The new premium economy grade will be “similar to, but better than” competing premium economy offerings from other carriers, Finnair general manager-UK, Ireland and Benelux Andre Fish said at a media briefing in London.


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Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:09 pm

Finnair extends Salzburg to year-round service with 2 weekly flights in S20.

AY1501 HEL 09:30 – 11:00 SZG E90 (Wed)
AY1502 SZG 11:45 – 15:05 HEL E90 (Wed)

AY1503 HEL 17:00 – 19:00 SZG 319 (Sun)
AY1504 SZG 19:45 – 23:05 HEL 319 (Sun)

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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:27 am

QuawerAir wrote:
AY will introduce Premium Economy class on U.S. routes in 4Q 2020.

The first premium economy cabin will be installed in one of the airline’s Airbus A330-300s in 4Q 2020, with all refurbishments to be completed by 2022.

[...]

The new premium economy grade will be “similar to, but better than” competing premium economy offerings from other carriers, Finnair general manager-UK, Ireland and Benelux Andre Fish said at a media briefing in London.



The rest of the 330 cabins will be refurbished as well? Especially the J class looks outdated now.
 
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:28 am

MareBorealis wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
AY will introduce Premium Economy class on U.S. routes in 4Q 2020.

The first premium economy cabin will be installed in one of the airline’s Airbus A330-300s in 4Q 2020, with all refurbishments to be completed by 2022.

[...]

The new premium economy grade will be “similar to, but better than” competing premium economy offerings from other carriers, Finnair general manager-UK, Ireland and Benelux Andre Fish said at a media briefing in London.



The rest of the 330 cabins will be refurbished as well? Especially the J class looks outdated now.

Yes, by 2022 :)
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:24 am

Air Leap is changing aircraft on Oslo-Ørland from Saab 340 to ATR-72 from 27/3/20. At the same time, Air Leap take over Oslo-Røros (PSO route) from Widerøe, where they will be using Saab 340
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:35 pm

Ryanair is closing Skavsta hub, due to delayed 737MAX:

Source: https://www.di.se/live/ryanair-stanger- ... g-problem/
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:36 pm

Ryanair will close their base in NYO, and cite the MAX-groundings as the reason. https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/sorml ... -i-skavsta (In Swedish).
 
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:11 pm

Is NYO really cut due to MAX planes or could it be due to softer demand?
 
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:20 pm

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Is NYO really cut due to MAX planes or could it be due to softer demand?


Probably softer demand, or just moving the production to other bases, and still use Skavsta as a destination.
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:06 pm

So do we know what routes are getting cut/reduced from NYO?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:18 pm

Blerg wrote:
Is NYO really cut due to MAX planes or could it be due to softer demand?




Most likely union busting. The pilots in Skavsta did get a better deal a couple of years ago but Ryanair still has problems to negotiate and accept a collective agreement with the Swedish pilot union.

For the Cabin Crew it’s even worse, a deal the Swedish union could accept, would mean a cabin crew would cost more than Wizzairs Captains they are competing directly with on the Eastern European routes.

I’m sure Ryanair will start a base again soon with new people and delay all union negotiation because suddenly no one is a member of the Swedish union anymore.

Routes towards eastern part of Europe with workers and Swedish tourists looking for a cheap weekend they can fly from more cost effective bases and timetable is less important.
However the tourist routes to Mediterranean benefits from an early morning departure from Stockholm Skavsta.
 
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Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:19 pm

agree 100 percent
 
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:46 am

kanye wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Is NYO really cut due to MAX planes or could it be due to softer demand?




Most likely union busting. The pilots in Skavsta did get a better deal a couple of years ago but Ryanair still has problems to negotiate and accept a collective agreement with the Swedish pilot union.

For the Cabin Crew it’s even worse, a deal the Swedish union could accept, would mean a cabin crew would cost more than Wizzairs Captains they are competing directly with on the Eastern European routes.

I’m sure Ryanair will start a base again soon with new people and delay all union negotiation because suddenly no one is a member of the Swedish union anymore.

Routes towards eastern part of Europe with workers and Swedish tourists looking for a cheap weekend they can fly from more cost effective bases and timetable is less important.
However the tourist routes to Mediterranean benefits from an early morning departure from Stockholm Skavsta.


Interesting, thank you for the explanation. Will be interesting to see what become of NYO and FR in the future. I am sure those pilots and crew received an offer to be reallocated elsewhere but under new contracts that suit FR. I mean, I understand Ryanair. People want those cheap fares so they have to adjust their business model to make sure they can make money from it.
 
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:03 am

Following the newly reached agreement, Kazakhstan and Finland increase permitted frequency between the countries:

Helsinki–Nur Sultan, 7 weekly
Helsinki–Almaty, 7 weekly

Based on the new agreement, Finnair is expected to expand offering in Kazakhstan with additional frequencies and a new route to Almaty.

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Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:27 am

Norwegian's November traffic numbers shows a sharp drop i capacity and thus passengers numbers, but the planes are fuller and both yield and revenue shows a good increase

Passengers: 2.283.821 -21%
ASK: -27%
RPK: -23%
Load factor: 83,0% +4,2pp
Yield: 0,37 +12
Unit revenue: 0,31 +18%

https://www.norwegian.no/globalassets/i ... r-2019.pdf
 
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:46 am

Someone83 wrote:
Norwegian's November traffic numbers shows a sharp drop i capacity and thus passengers numbers, but the planes are fuller and both yield and revenue shows a good increase

Passengers: 2.283.821 -21%
ASK: -27%
RPK: -23%
Load factor: 83,0% +4,2pp
Yield: 0,37 +12
Unit revenue: 0,31 +18%

https://www.norwegian.no/globalassets/i ... r-2019.pdf


Ofcourse they pulled out the some of the worst capacity they had in their network, load factors and yield should automatically rise. But a -23% decrease in PAX is pretty crazy. Do we know if this is dominated by long haul?
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:51 am

Anyone know if Juneyao plan to sell their shorthaul European routes out of Helsinki under their own name ? So far it seems Finnair are selling tickets for these flights under a codeshare, but Juneyao don't seem to be offering seats
 
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:38 am

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Anyone know if Juneyao plan to sell their shorthaul European routes out of Helsinki under their own name ? So far it seems Finnair are selling tickets for these flights under a codeshare, but Juneyao don't seem to be offering seats

To my knowledge, they should be going to operate them under their own code. I don't know when the flights will be on sale but presumably soon.

AY's and HO's codeshare agreement doesn't cover any other EU routes but AY's domestic routes so it's interesting that Juneyao sells AY's flights. I wonder if it's an interline agreement behind this.
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:49 am

minilinde wrote:
Ofcourse they pulled out the some of the worst capacity they had in their network, load factors and yield should automatically rise. But a -23% decrease in PAX is pretty crazy. Do we know if this is dominated by long haul?


Not sure, but they also sold and phased out quite a few 737-800s this Autumn
 
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:03 pm

Just saw an interesting interview with CEO Topi Manner and here are the main points:

    – Finnair will not alter frequencies to HKG despite the ongoing event.
    – On the partnership with Juneyao: "We are committed to developing it in the future."
    – Even though LATAM is leaving Oneworld, AY will maintain the codeshare partnership.
    – Apparently, no A321XLRs for Finnair:

    In the case of Finnair, we don’t see a use case. With the focus on Asian megacities, capacity and slots are somewhat constrained. So, I think our long-haul fleet is very well suited to serving those cities, with more widebodies


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Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:35 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
davidjohnson6 wrote:
Anyone know if Juneyao plan to sell their shorthaul European routes out of Helsinki under their own name ? So far it seems Finnair are selling tickets for these flights under a codeshare, but Juneyao don't seem to be offering seats

To my knowledge, they should be going to operate them under their own code. I don't know when the flights will be on sale but presumably soon.

AY's and HO's codeshare agreement doesn't cover any other EU routes but AY's domestic routes so it's interesting that Juneyao sells AY's flights. I wonder if it's an interline agreement behind this.


Yes, I can find the KEF-HEL legs on Juneayo's own website. Only problem is they're around 500$ oneway...I was planning on booking the inaugurual, hopefully the prices will go down to a more reasonable level!
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:14 pm

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Yes, I can find the KEF-HEL legs on Juneayo's own website. Only problem is they're around 500$ oneway...I was planning on booking the inaugurual, hopefully the prices will go down to a more reasonable level!


I was checking the inaugural flight as well, I'm sure the prices will come down. The route has got a lot of attention though, must be packed with A.netters ;) Sichuan Airlines fly CTU-HEL-CPH, after the announcement the prices on HEL-CPH were really high, now HEL-CPH is available for EUR 30 (10 JAN) in Y class.
 
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:51 pm

SRQKEF wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
davidjohnson6 wrote:
Anyone know if Juneyao plan to sell their shorthaul European routes out of Helsinki under their own name ? So far it seems Finnair are selling tickets for these flights under a codeshare, but Juneyao don't seem to be offering seats

To my knowledge, they should be going to operate them under their own code. I don't know when the flights will be on sale but presumably soon.

AY's and HO's codeshare agreement doesn't cover any other EU routes but AY's domestic routes so it's interesting that Juneyao sells AY's flights. I wonder if it's an interline agreement behind this.


Yes, I can find the KEF-HEL legs on Juneayo's own website. Only problem is they're around 500$ oneway...I was planning on booking the inaugurual, hopefully the prices will go down to a more reasonable level!

In addition to HEL–KEF leg, HEL–DUB is also on sale for around $430 ($330 on PVG–DUB) one-way. AY sales it for €360 ($400). HEL–MAN is not on sale yet.
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Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:05 pm

MareBorealis wrote:
SRQKEF wrote:
Yes, I can find the KEF-HEL legs on Juneayo's own website. Only problem is they're around 500$ oneway...I was planning on booking the inaugurual, hopefully the prices will go down to a more reasonable level!


I was checking the inaugural flight as well, I'm sure the prices will come down. The route has got a lot of attention though, must be packed with A.netters ;) Sichuan Airlines fly CTU-HEL-CPH, after the announcement the prices on HEL-CPH were really high, now HEL-CPH is available for EUR 30 (10 JAN) in Y class.


Even though I've already flown Sichuan on their now discontinued PRG-ZRH route, those prices are really tempting...might have to look into it! ;)
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Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:40 am

It's official: SAS opens CPH–HND on March 29, 2020 and ceases the route to NRT. Flights will be operated by A350-900.

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Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:31 am

A bit worse month for Helsinki Airport for a change:

HEL November 2019 statistics:

Domestic: 251,426 (-7.5%)
International: 1,340,991 (+3.5%)
Total: 1,592,417 (+1.6%)

YTD total: 20,168,529 (+5.1%)

Annual pax volume at HEL will be so close to 22 Mio this year! My estimate is 21.8 Mio.
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Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:40 am

What caused the 7.5 % decrease in domestic pax at Helsinki ?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:55 am

davidjohnson6 wrote:
What caused the 7.5 % decrease in domestic pax at Helsinki ?


Hasn’t Norwegian reduced here?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:03 am

Someone83 wrote:
davidjohnson6 wrote:
What caused the 7.5 % decrease in domestic pax at Helsinki ?


Hasn’t Norwegian reduced here?

I think they have but not significantly. The pax volume was also affected by the strike, due to which AY canceled nearly 300 flights, a big amount of them being domestic flights. Some other airlines also canceled flights to HEL.
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC | AY, BA, DL, FH, LH, LO | A320, A321, A333, 752, 764, 772, 788
The word "Quawer" means nothing but it looks great.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:36 am

QuawerAir wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
davidjohnson6 wrote:
What caused the 7.5 % decrease in domestic pax at Helsinki ?


Hasn’t Norwegian reduced here?

I think they have but not significantly. The pax volume was also affected by the strike, due to which AY canceled nearly 300 flights, a big amount of them being domestic flights. Some other airlines also canceled flights to HEL.

Finnair domestic pax was up 2,1% (total 210500) so it was definitely all about Norwegian.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:01 am

QuawerAir wrote:
It's official: SAS opens CPH–HND on March 29, 2020 and ceases the route to NRT. Flights will be operated by A350-900.

SAS Newsroom

The schedule:
SK983 CPH-HND 14:05-07:55+1
SK984 HND-CPH 11:50-16:10

And a minor correction from the link. A330s and A340s will also operate some flights to HND.
Types flown: A319, A320, A32N, A321, A332, A333, A343, AT43, AT75, AT76, B717, B732, B735, B736, B737, B738, B752, B753, CRJ9, DC10, DH4D, DHC3, E135, E145, E175, E190, E195, F100, MD11, MD81, MD82, MD87, RJ1H
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Dec 09, 2019 5:52 pm

All afternoon and evening flights at KEF cancelled for tomorrow. Extreme weather forecasted, orange warning for most of the country, including the capital area and KEF and for the first time ever a red warning which is active for the north west part of the country. We're talking winds up to and around 30 m/s.
This will affect more than just aviation since there are possibilites all roads from the city will be closed as a safety measure.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:11 pm

I was looking at some pictures of SK's A350 and I have to say it looks fantastic on the inside, especially for an airline that is extraordinarily ordinary.

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