MareBorealis
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:23 am

SASViking wrote:
a350lover wrote:
Do you guys think AY could show at some point in future interest in Norwegian?

Norwegian has a "strong" and extensive network between Scandinavia, Europe and the UK to USA.
Finnair has one of the most extensive networks from Europe and Helsinki to Asia.

They could truly be a strong competitor for SAS in Scandinavia and from their hubs, and work in different regions of the planet.

I am sure I haven't been the first to come up with this idea. Many reasons for this not to happen, sure. Just was curious as if you think this could work.


Finnair have had a minor stake in Norwegian, I believe that it was a part of the deal when Norwegian bought Finnair-owned FlyNordic. They sold the stake quite a while back.
Other than that, I really struggle to see what Norwegian can bring to Finnair.
Norwegian are cutting most of their US routes from Scandinavia, mainly because they can't compete well with SAS and others. Low frequency vs. high frequency etc.
I don't think that Finnair would be interested in an airline whos main focus is LGW, CDG/ORY, FCO and MAD and an airline with huge debt. I don't think that other OW partners such as BA, IB and AA would be very happy if Finnair bought Norwegian with the purpose of maintaining Norwegians current LH strategy.
Either Norwegian will be bought by IAG and "merged" into Vueling/Level and BA's LGW operations or they'll go bankrupt. That's the only 2 scenarios I think are likely


Yes in 2007 Finnair sold their ARN based LCC FlyNordic to Norwegian Air Shuttle and got a minor stake in the company. In 2010 Norwegian and Finnair were in talks to start a closer co-operation, DY was growing and AY needed a regional feeder. That didn't work out, Finnair sold the stake in 2013. As SASViking said, it's highly unlikely these two would find each other again.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:56 am

QuawerAir wrote:
Unfortunately, Vueling seems to have discontinued its Barcelona–Helsinki route. The last flight was operated on October 25, 2019. No flights bookable during W19 or S20 seasons.


That's really sad! HEL seems to be like teflon for the lowfare carriers, now Vueling and Transavia will be gone by the end of March. Less competition, less choice, bad for travelers.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:34 am

According to MTV3 News (in Finnish), CEO Topi Manner has said that the purpose is to make decisions on investments already next year. I believe the fleet investments are the main reason AY decided to change its strategy to "profitable growth".


Yhtiön toimitusjohtaja Topi Manner kertoo, että lähikuukausina yhtiö kartoittaa tarpeensa tarkemmin, ja investointipäätöksiä on tarkoitus tehdä kuluvana vuonna.

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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:00 am

Starting from January 2020, Norwegian will be discontinuing its ARN-MMX flights. In Q1 2020 the airline planned on operating 3 to 4 daily flights. I guess this is more bad news for ARN.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -jan-2020/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:42 am

More bad news for ARN on the long haul front! The last two years Emirates has been operating double daily during high season (Dec-Mar and Jun-Aug), and lately it has been scheduled at 11 weekly as a year-around service!
Now, the second flight has been removed completely and left ARN at not only daily, but even 6 weekly!!
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:14 pm

cityairline wrote:
More bad news for ARN on the long haul front! The last two years Emirates has been operating double daily during high season (Dec-Mar and Jun-Aug), and lately it has been scheduled at 11 weekly as a year-around service!
Now, the second flight has been removed completely and left ARN at not only daily, but even 6 weekly!!

The timetable indeed shows 6 weekly flights but when you try to book flights, the system gives you 2 daily flights, both in winter and summer seasons. So, don't worry, it seems to be just an error ;)
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:42 pm

Starting from 10th January 2020, Norwegian will be discontinuing its HEL-VAA flights. This 2xw route started just two weeks ago so it last around two months.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:15 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
According to MTV3 News (in Finnish), CEO Topi Manner has said that the purpose is to make decisions on investments already next year. I believe the fleet investments are the main reason AY decided to change its strategy to "profitable growth".


Yhtiön toimitusjohtaja Topi Manner kertoo, että lähikuukausina yhtiö kartoittaa tarpeensa tarkemmin, ja investointipäätöksiä on tarkoitus tehdä kuluvana vuonna.



According to that MTV3 news the CEO commented on the NB order: "In the coming months we'll take a closer look at our needs and the plan is we'll make decissions this year." Naturally releasing the news is an other thing.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:20 pm

Bostrom wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
SAS is closing Stockholm-Örnsköldsvik from Feb 1., however Sveaflyg will take over the route with up to 5 daily Saab 2000 flight
...


If SAS couldn't make Ö-vik profitable with an ATR72, I think it might be harder for Air Leap to do the same without a huge network of connecting flights at ARN. A Saab 2000 or Saab 340 sounds more reasonable. But who knows?

There are however also rumours that BRA is considering OER.


BRA is announcing (email, probably on their we as well) that tickets are available from 698 SEK starting February 2nd 2020. 3-4 daily weekdays and 2 on Sundays.

"Nyhet! Flyg direkt till Örnsköldsvik från Stockholm Bromma

Från den 2 februari 2020 flyger vi direkt till Örnsköldsvik från Bromma Stockholm cityflygplats. Det blir 3-4 avgångar per dag måndag till fredag i vardera riktning, samt 2 avgångar på söndagar.
Flygtiden är ca 1 timme och 15 minuter med vår klimatsmarta ATR 72-600.

Pris från 698 kr/enkel resa
inklusive klimatkompensation, skatter och avgifter."

/Fredrik
 
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Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:29 pm

FredrikHAD wrote:
Bostrom wrote:
Someone83 wrote:

If SAS couldn't make Ö-vik profitable with an ATR72, I think it might be harder for Air Leap to do the same without a huge network of connecting flights at ARN. A Saab 2000 or Saab 340 sounds more reasonable. But who knows?

There are however also rumours that BRA is considering OER.


BRA is announcing (email, probably on their we as well) that tickets are available from 698 SEK starting February 2nd 2020. 3-4 daily weekdays and 2 on Sundays.

"Nyhet! Flyg direkt till Örnsköldsvik från Stockholm Bromma

Från den 2 februari 2020 flyger vi direkt till Örnsköldsvik från Bromma Stockholm cityflygplats. Det blir 3-4 avgångar per dag måndag till fredag i vardera riktning, samt 2 avgångar på söndagar.
Flygtiden är ca 1 timme och 15 minuter med vår klimatsmarta ATR 72-600.

Pris från 698 kr/enkel resa
inklusive klimatkompensation, skatter och avgifter."

/Fredrik


So the rumours were correct, it will be interesting so how it works, and how many airlines are stil flying to Ö-vik after a year.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:19 pm

It is now reported that the first A321LR-route for SAS will be CPH-BOS. The inaugural flight will be 2020-09-18 and tickets will go on sale next week. No reports yet on where the other two aircraft will be used.

Link (in Swedish): https://www.di.se/live/nu-ar-det-klart- ... an-lyfter/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:50 pm

Have Sveaflyg put Stockholm-Ornskoldsvik on sale or can tickets be purchased via a travel agent ? If Air Leap and BRA are thinking of this route as well, am wondering whether Sveaflyg might just decide to pull out before losing any money...
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:15 am

First A320neo in new livery and their 30th in total, is scheduled for delivery today according to Skyliner

Airbus A320 -251N 9312 SE-ROJ SAS delivery 15nov19 TLS-ARN, new cs ex F-WWBC
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:18 am

Norwegian will axe HEL-VAA in January just after two months of operation. It never made sense to fly the route just twice weekly.
 
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Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:17 am

A321 a perfect plane for Boston. Allows them to run more days each week, and go year-round. Great move.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:37 am

Bostrom wrote:
It is now reported that the first A321LR-route for SAS will be CPH-BOS. The inaugural flight will be 2020-09-18 and tickets will go on sale next week. No reports yet on where the other two aircraft will be used.

Link (in Swedish): https://www.di.se/live/nu-ar-det-klart- ... an-lyfter/


With the 3 321lr coming along wouldn't it be smart if SAS also got some 321neo standard also to replace the 321ceo
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:00 am

fessor wrote:
Bostrom wrote:
It is now reported that the first A321LR-route for SAS will be CPH-BOS. The inaugural flight will be 2020-09-18 and tickets will go on sale next week. No reports yet on where the other two aircraft will be used.

Link (in Swedish): https://www.di.se/live/nu-ar-det-klart- ... an-lyfter/


With the 3 321lr coming along wouldn't it be smart if SAS also got some 321neo standard also to replace the 321ceo

At some point in the future, sure. As for now, their A321s still have plenty of years left so no need
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:43 am

Finnair seems to be acquiring 3 more Embraer 190 jets for Norra.

Source:
https://www.aviationnews-online.com/lea ... o-finnair/
 
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Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:15 am

fessor wrote:
Bostrom wrote:
It is now reported that the first A321LR-route for SAS will be CPH-BOS. The inaugural flight will be 2020-09-18 and tickets will go on sale next week. No reports yet on where the other two aircraft will be used.

Link (in Swedish): https://www.di.se/live/nu-ar-det-klart- ... an-lyfter/


With the 3 321lr coming along wouldn't it be smart if SAS also got some 321neo standard also to replace the 321ceo


If I'm not mistaken, in their recent large order they have the opportunity to upgrade to 321. And I think that could be smart. They have a couple of A321s, but I think they could use more, and have a few in ARN and OSL as well. Also, I'd love to see A321neo in SAS colours!
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:57 am

Bostrom wrote:
fessor wrote:
Bostrom wrote:
It is now reported that the first A321LR-route for SAS will be CPH-BOS. The inaugural flight will be 2020-09-18 and tickets will go on sale next week. No reports yet on where the other two aircraft will be used.

Link (in Swedish): https://www.di.se/live/nu-ar-det-klart- ... an-lyfter/


With the 3 321lr coming along wouldn't it be smart if SAS also got some 321neo standard also to replace the 321ceo


If I'm not mistaken, in their recent large order they have the opportunity to upgrade to 321. And I think that could be smart. They have a couple of A321s, but I think they could use more, and have a few in ARN and OSL as well. Also, I'd love to see A321neo in SAS colours!

Yes, they can upgrade, until 2 years before delivery of the aircraft.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:52 pm

Kalervo wrote:
Finnair seems to be acquiring 3 more Embraer 190 jets for Norra.

Source:
https://www.aviationnews-online.com/lea ... o-finnair/

I think those frames were already leased to Finnair, they just got new owner.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:02 pm

davidjohnson6 wrote:
Have Sveaflyg put Stockholm-Ornskoldsvik on sale or can tickets be purchased via a travel agent ? If Air Leap and BRA are thinking of this route as well, am wondering whether Sveaflyg might just decide to pull out before losing any money...

Sveaflyg seems to be mostly a charter outfit but has flown ARN-VBY (Visby) and flown for Air Leap from time to time. Could it be that Sveaflyg will fly for Air Leap to OER? That would make it two operators (Air Leap and BRA), not three. Two is a lot as it is on that destination. Good for Örnsköldsvik, sure, but if one operator couldn’t make it alone (well, SAS may not be the most cost effective airline, but still) then with too much competition it may be that all new operators pull out eventually due to losses and then no one will dare to try operating OER again in a long time.

/Fredrik
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:11 am

THAI adds A350 services to CPH and ARN in W19:

Bangkok – Copenhagen A350-900XWB operates on 16DEC19 / 26DEC19 / 29DEC19
TG950 BKK0050 – 0635CPH 359
TG951 CPH1350 – 0620+1BKK 359

Bangkok – Stockholm Arlanda A350-900XWB operates from 01DEC19 to 15DEC19
TG960 BKK0125 – 0655ARN 359 D
TG961 ARN1330 – 0545+1BKK 359 D


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A350 has 27 seats less than B777-300ER. I believe we'll see A350 flying to Nordics on a regurlar basis in the near future.
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Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:13 am

FredrikHAD wrote:
Sveaflyg seems to be mostly a charter outfit but has flown ARN-VBY (Visby) and flown for Air Leap from time to time. Could it be that Sveaflyg will fly for Air Leap to OER? That would make it two operators (Air Leap and BRA), not three. Two is a lot as it is on that destination. Good for Örnsköldsvik, sure, but if one operator couldn’t make it alone (well, SAS may not be the most cost effective airline, but still) then with too much competition it may be that all new operators pull out eventually due to losses and then no one will dare to try operating OER again in a long time.

/Fredrik


When it was announced, Air Leap was supposed to use one of their newly bought ATRs

QuawerAir wrote:
THAI adds A350 services to CPH and ARN in W19:


At least for some few days.....
 
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Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:50 pm

SAS reduces flights from CPH to HKG from 5 to 4 weekly, likely due to decreased demand caused by Hong Kong protests. AY still has 14 weekly flights to HKG in W19 and S20.

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Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:29 am

Good News for Stockholm! ANA plans to launch HND–ARN route in S20.

The number of weekly frequencies and operating aircraft are unknown, most likely will be Dreamliner.

ANA, Press release

JAL announces HND–HEL route from 29 March 2020 while NRT–HEL will be suspended.

JAL, Press release
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Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:28 am

Slightly surprisingly, Finnair's new Sapporo route becomes year-round. Two weekly flights in S20.

Additionally, Osaka increases from 10 to 12 weekly!

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Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:37 am

QuawerAir wrote:
Additionally, Osaka increases from 10 to 12 weekly!


WIll the second flight leave during the midnight bank?
 
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Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:42 am

Someone83 wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Additionally, Osaka increases from 10 to 12 weekly!


WIll the second flight leave during the midnight bank?

Yes, at 00:45 from HEL.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:28 am

QuawerAir wrote:
Slightly surprisingly, Finnair's new Sapporo route becomes year-round. Two weekly flights in S20.

Additionally, Osaka increases from 10 to 12 weekly!

Finnair

Not at all they have huge potential in that area. No one flies there from Europe ;)
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Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:47 am

QuawerAir wrote:
Good News for Stockholm! ANA plans to launch HND–ARN route in S20.


Finally resume ARN-TYO direct service!
Last time, SAS's DC-10 ARN-ANC-NRT joint operation with ANA from 1989 to 1993.
 
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Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:37 pm

Do you think SK will announce a new route to Tokyo? SAS gained a slot at Haneda (as far as I know) and CPH route will probably be moved there leaving the NRT slot unused. It was reported a year ago that SAS might launch ARN–NRT but since ANA launches HND–ARN, it's likely not going to happen.
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Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:50 pm

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Do you think SK will announce a new route to Tokyo? SAS gained a slot at Haneda (as far as I know) and CPH route will probably be moved there leaving the NRT slot unused. It was reported a year ago that SAS might launch ARN–NRT but since ANA launches HND–ARN, it's likely not going to happen.


ANA takes ARN, so I wish SK will add NRT-OSL, even for seasonal service in summer.
This is bit old interview article when Rickard Gustafson came to Tokyo on April 2018. (Sorry only in Japanese.)
http://www.travelvision.jp/news/detail.php?id=81542

Summary:
NRT-CPH will move to HND-CPH, and will use A350.
SAS hope to keep NRT slots after CPH flight move to HND.
NRT slots will use to new ARN service, if conditions permit.
ARN-NRT will be daily in summer, reduce in winter with A330.
Resume cooperation and codeshare with ANA.
 
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Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:57 pm

Good to see ANA opening a Nordic service! No doubt ARN sounds like a potential success, hopefully the connections work well.

HEL will break a new record to Japan next summer season, with 45 weekly departures to six airports (NRT HND KIX NGO FUK CTS), Finnar and JAL combined. Japan truly is Finnair's bread and butter, their largest market outside Finland says their press release.
 
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Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:31 pm

MareBorealis wrote:
Good to see ANA opening a Nordic service! No doubt ARN sounds like a potential success, hopefully the connections work well.

HEL will break a new record to Japan next summer season, with 45 weekly departures to six airports (NRT HND KIX NGO FUK CTS), Finnar and JAL combined. Japan truly is Finnair's bread and butter, their largest market outside Finland says their press release.

It may be too early to say but there is a possibility of some additions coming up for the W20 season as well. From November 2020, Finnair's timetable shows 14 weekly flights to TYO at the moment (instead of 9 in W19).
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Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:40 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
Do you think SK will announce a new route to Tokyo? SAS gained a slot at Haneda (as far as I know) and CPH route will probably be moved there leaving the NRT slot unused. It was reported a year ago that SAS might launch ARN–NRT but since ANA launches HND–ARN, it's likely not going to happen.

SAS have gained a slot at HND but from what I know, SAS are unhappy with the timings as they don't fit with any other LH route from CPH. From what I've heard SAS and ANA are negotiating a swap of slots at HND to give SAS a better departure and arrival time.
I wouldn't be surprised about a SAS CPH-HND announcement soon after this, I'm sure that the details about ANA to ARN have been a part of the negotiations
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:19 am

Juneyao Airlines to launch 3x weekly Shanghai Pudong - Helsinki - Manchester on B787-9. Flights will arrive into Manchester at 0830 and depart Manchester at 1000. It is unclear how that will impact the existing Juneyao flights at Helsinki

https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/11 ... 67392?s=19
 
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Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:24 am

SeanM1997 wrote:
Juneyao Airlines to launch 3x weekly Shanghai Pudong - Helsinki - Manchester on B787-9. Flights will arrive into Manchester at 0830 and depart Manchester at 1000. It is unclear how that will impact the existing Juneyao flights at Helsinki

https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/11 ... 67392?s=19

Reportedly, there are Dublin and Reykjavík coming up as well, both via HEL and PVG–HEL will be daily in S20.

Great to see Juneyao Airlines leveraging the geographical advantage of Helsinki Airport!
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Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:33 am

The route seems to be opened on 30 March 2020.

HO1609 PVG 00:55 – 06:00 HEL 135
HO1609 HEL 07:30 – 08:30 MAN 135

HO1610 MAN 10:00 – 15:10 HEL 135
HO1610 HEL 17:30 – 07:30+1 PVG 135

Overall, Shanghai Pudong–Helsinki remains daily.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:38 am

Bostrom wrote:
It is now reported that the first A321LR-route for SAS will be CPH-BOS. The inaugural flight will be 2020-09-18 and tickets will go on sale next week. No reports yet on where the other two aircraft will be used.

Link (in Swedish): https://www.di.se/live/nu-ar-det-klart- ... an-lyfter/


I’m really looking forward to these planes being delivered and to see the interior.

I assume they will be delivered with CFM Leap engines?
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:49 am

Jacob Schram is the new CEO of Norwegian

https://www.dn.no/luftfart/norwegian/ja ... 2-1-709984

He was previously head of Statoil Fuel & Retail which was the 5th largest company on the Oslo Stock Exchange when it was publicly listed. Follower SFR's acquisition by Couche-Tard he was European head for 2700 gas stations and 20,000 employees. He has been an executive advisor for McKinsey the past year.

I know Jacob well and he is extremely good with strategy and people. I wish him and Norwegian all the best
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:07 pm

Finnair increases Helsinki–Beijing Daxing service from 3 to 4 weekly from April 2020.

AY081 HEL 00:45 – 13:35 PKX 333 (Mon, Tue, Thu, Sat)
AY082 PKX 01:55 – 05:35+1 HEL 333 (Tue, Wed, Fri, Sun)

The additional flights will be flown on Mondays. Overall, Finnair will be flying to Beijing 11x weekly in S20.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:20 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
Finnair increases Helsinki–Beijing Daxing service from 3 to 4 weekly from April 2020.

AY081 HEL 00:45 – 13:35 PKX 333 (Mon, Tue, Thu, Sat)
AY082 PKX 01:55 – 05:35+1 HEL 333 (Tue, Wed, Fri, Sun)

The additional flights will be flown on Mondays. Overall, Finnair will be flying to Beijing 11x weekly in S20.


Looks like they also change the schedule, adding it to the midnight bank from HEL?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:25 pm

Someone83 wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Finnair increases Helsinki–Beijing Daxing service from 3 to 4 weekly from April 2020.

AY081 HEL 00:45 – 13:35 PKX 333 (Mon, Tue, Thu, Sat)
AY082 PKX 01:55 – 05:35+1 HEL 333 (Tue, Wed, Fri, Sun)

The additional flights will be flown on Mondays. Overall, Finnair will be flying to Beijing 11x weekly in S20.


Looks like they also change the schedule, adding it to the midnight bank from HEL?

Yeah, PKX will departure at midnight along with HKG, HND, KIX, and SIN. Btw, if I recall correctly, JFK also departed at midnight when AY flew there 10x weekly in 2009.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:37 pm

Oykie wrote:
Bostrom wrote:
It is now reported that the first A321LR-route for SAS will be CPH-BOS. The inaugural flight will be 2020-09-18 and tickets will go on sale next week. No reports yet on where the other two aircraft will be used.

Link (in Swedish): https://www.di.se/live/nu-ar-det-klart- ... an-lyfter/


I’m really looking forward to these planes being delivered and to see the interior.

I assume they will be delivered with CFM Leap engines?

From what I've heard they should indeed be with CFM Leap.
Regarding the interior it'll be very close to the one on the A330/A340/A350s although the seats in business will be slightly narrower and unlike the WBs not all business class seats will offer direct access to the aisle
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:24 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
Btw, if I recall correctly, JFK also departed at midnight when AY flew there 10x weekly in 2009.


JFK AY007 was a 5:10pm departure to connect with the afternoon Asian bank.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:15 am

BRA will be leasing 5 E190 from Geman Airways/WDL Aviation, Mainly to operate BMA-MMX and BMA-GOT

https://forum.flyprat.no/showthread.php?t=150290
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:38 am

I put together all long-haul service changes AY has made so far:

Finnair S20 long-haul service changes as of Nov 2019

    Helsinki – Bangkok Operational frequency during summer season decreases from 10 to 7 weekly
    Helsinki – Beijing Daxing eff 20APR20 Increase from 3 to 4 weekly
    Helsinki – Busan eff 30MAR20 NEW 3 weekly service, operated by A350-900XWB
    Helsinki – Osaka Kansai eff 29MAR20 Increase from 10 to 12 weekly
    AY067 HEL0045 – 1625KIX 333 x14
    AY077 HEL1720 – 0855+1KIX 359 D

    AY068 KIX0125 – 0540HEL 333 x25
    AY078 KIX1045 – 1440HEL 359 D

    Helsinki – Sapporo New Chitose eff 29MAR20 Service converts from winter seasonal to year-round, A330-300 operates 2 weekly in summer season
    AY065 HEL1805 – 0905+1CTS 333 37
    AY066 CTS1135 – 1510HEL 333 14

    Helsinki – Tokyo Haneda eff 29MAR20 NEW daily service, operated by A350-900XWB
    Helsinki – Tokyo Narita 1 of 2 daily services canceled. Additional service to be operated during Olympics, from 20JUL20 to 24JUL20 and from 09AUG20 to 11AUG20 (HEL departure)
    AY071 HEL1645 – 0805+1NRT 359
    AY072 NRT0950 – 1350HEL 359

    Further changes may occur.

See Routesonline for S20 Japan service changes.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:54 pm

SAS has just released the seatmap for the A321LR. As expected the Economy Plus sextips is 2-2 konfig and 3 rows. So a very good premium economy offering in a rather private cabin
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:38 pm

Someone83 wrote:
SAS has just released the seatmap for the A321LR. As expected the Economy Plus sextips is 2-2 konfig and 3 rows. So a very good premium economy offering in a rather private cabin


I did not find it online. I found out it will have the same business class seats as Aer Lingus, but not the number of seats.
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