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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 3:48 pm

Finnair in summer 2020 season plans to offer Helsinki – Tirana service, operating as scheduled charter flight. From Helsinki, the charter flight commences on 16MAY20, with Airbus A319 aircraft operating once weekly.

AY2089 HEL1550 – 1805TIA 319 6
AY2090 TIA1905 – 2315HEL 319 6
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:15 pm

Blerg wrote:
Air Serbia is extending its HEL flights into winter, two times per week (Tuesdays and Fridays) onboard their A319.

JU did really well in HEL this summer as many CRJ flights that were scheduled were eventually replaced with the A319.

Great news!
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:53 pm

Blerg wrote:
Air Serbia is extending its HEL flights into winter, two times per week (Tuesdays and Fridays) onboard their A319.

JU did really well in HEL this summer as many CRJ flights that were scheduled were eventually replaced with the A319.

Wasn't this route already year-round? Glad to see this route doing great.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:11 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Air Serbia is extending its HEL flights into winter, two times per week (Tuesdays and Fridays) onboard their A319.

JU did really well in HEL this summer as many CRJ flights that were scheduled were eventually replaced with the A319.

Wasn't this route already year-round? Glad to see this route doing great.


They wanted to make it year-round but sluggish sales during spring made them uncertain if the route would work out in the end. Luckily sales picked up in the end and the route became an instant success. Let's see what happens next year, some newly launched destinations such as Krasnodar will most likely get a boost. Maybe HEL gets the 4th weekly as well.

After JU launched HEL arrival of Finnish tourists boomed.
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:27 pm

Blerg wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Air Serbia is extending its HEL flights into winter, two times per week (Tuesdays and Fridays) onboard their A319.

JU did really well in HEL this summer as many CRJ flights that were scheduled were eventually replaced with the A319.

Wasn't this route already year-round? Glad to see this route doing great.


They wanted to make it year-round but sluggish sales during spring made them uncertain if the route would work out in the end. Luckily sales picked up in the end and the route became an instant success. Let's see what happens next year, some newly launched destinations such as Krasnodar will most likely get a boost. Maybe HEL gets the 4th weekly as well.

After JU launched HEL arrival of Finnish tourists boomed.

Thanks! :) Would be nice to know how high the PLF has been but presumably it has been over 80%, probably around 90%.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:50 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
Blerg wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Wasn't this route already year-round? Glad to see this route doing great.


They wanted to make it year-round but sluggish sales during spring made them uncertain if the route would work out in the end. Luckily sales picked up in the end and the route became an instant success. Let's see what happens next year, some newly launched destinations such as Krasnodar will most likely get a boost. Maybe HEL gets the 4th weekly as well.

After JU launched HEL arrival of Finnish tourists boomed.

Thanks! :) Would be nice to know how high the PLF has been but presumably it has been over 80%, probably around 90%.


I'll check and let you know but I doubt it was that high. KRR was 65% in July and 72% in August so my guess is that HEL was pretty much the same. Many A319 flights had around 120 passengers per flight which I guess is around 80%. Most connections went to Greece and Croatia. JU's goal for the first year was to be between 50% and 60% so they were well above their expectations.

From what I heard HEL loads were similar to KRR which had 80 and 120 passengers yesterday.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:11 pm

It seems there was a bunch of uncommon flights MUC-OSL today. Anyone know why?
I spotted an Air Greenland A333, a Titan 757 and an Air Caraïbes A333 all doing this route today.
 
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Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:56 pm

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It seems there was a bunch of uncommon flights MUC-OSL today. Anyone know why?
I spotted an Air Greenland A333, a Titan 757 and an Air Caraïbes A333 all doing this route today.


Charter for a company. Not confirmed, but believe Kiwi, a retail/grocery chain
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:20 pm

tofen wrote:
It seems there was a bunch of uncommon flights MUC-OSL today. Anyone know why?
I spotted an Air Greenland A333, a Titan 757 and an Air Caraïbes A333 all doing this route today.


Air Greenland has no A333s, just a single A332.
Nothing compares to taking off in an empty 757 with full thrust!
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:48 am

HEL August 2019 statistics

Domestic: 190,304 (+0.2%)
International: 1,833,963 (+7.5%)
Total: 2,024,267 (+6.7%)

YTD transfer: 2,830,739 (+13.0%)

YTD total: 14,748,468 (+5.4%)

Intercontinental traffic keeps growing rapidly at Finavia airports (well, Helsinki Airport): 364,589 (+18.5%). Most notably China (+30.6%), U.S (+26.3%), and Hong Kong (+36.0%) see rapid growth.
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Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:15 am

ARN August 2019 passenger numbers

Domestic passengers 380 000 (-11%)
International passengers 2 100 000 (-2%)

Total number of passengers 2 437 000, down 4 % compared to August last year.

All information given by Swedavia.
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Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:25 am

X2K wrote:
ARN August 2019 passenger numbers

Domestic passengers 380 000 (-11%)
International passengers 2 100 000 (-2%)

Total number of passengers 2 437 000, down 4 % compared to August last year.

All information given by Swedavia.


So the downward spiral continues. How has ARN performed in the first 8 months of the year?
 
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Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:34 am

Blerg wrote:
X2K wrote:
ARN August 2019 passenger numbers

Domestic passengers 380 000 (-11%)
International passengers 2 100 000 (-2%)

Total number of passengers 2 437 000, down 4 % compared to August last year.

All information given by Swedavia.


So the downward spiral continues. How has ARN performed in the first 8 months of the year?

17,380,053 (-5%) passengers in Jan-Aug 2019.

If the trend of declining pax volume at ARN continues for the rest of the year, the total pax volume may be 25,5 Mio (-5%) at ARN. HEL might see 22 Mio passengers this year. Hence, ARN would have only 3.5 million passengers more compared to HEL. In 2017, the difference was about 7.7 million.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:42 am

QuawerAir wrote:
Blerg wrote:
X2K wrote:
ARN August 2019 passenger numbers

Domestic passengers 380 000 (-11%)
International passengers 2 100 000 (-2%)

Total number of passengers 2 437 000, down 4 % compared to August last year.

All information given by Swedavia.


So the downward spiral continues. How has ARN performed in the first 8 months of the year?

17,380,053 (-5%) passengers in Jan-Aug 2019.

If the trend of declining pax volume at ARN continues for the rest of the year, the total pax volume may be 25,5 Mio (-5%) at ARN. HEL might see 22 Mio passengers this year. Hence, ARN would have only 3.5 million passengers more compared to HEL. In 2017, the difference was about 7.7 million.


Not only that but if nothing changes then ARN might continue shrinking next year as well. I think SK is cutting LAX while DY has turned many routes seasonal... or did the DY cuts already happen?
 
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Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:23 am

Blerg wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Blerg wrote:

So the downward spiral continues. How has ARN performed in the first 8 months of the year?

17,380,053 (-5%) passengers in Jan-Aug 2019.

If the trend of declining pax volume at ARN continues for the rest of the year, the total pax volume may be 25,5 Mio (-5%) at ARN. HEL might see 22 Mio passengers this year. Hence, ARN would have only 3.5 million passengers more compared to HEL. In 2017, the difference was about 7.7 million.


Not only that but if nothing changes then ARN might continue shrinking next year as well. I think SK is cutting LAX while DY has turned many routes seasonal... or did the DY cuts already happen?

They are seasonal now. However, given the reductions, ARN–U.S traffic will continue to decline next year as well. If DY decides to cut these routes completely, ARN will lose its 2nd busiest U.S route (5th busiest intercontinental route), namely LAX, which was used by 218,000 passengers last year, and some other U.S routes. Future of DY doesn't look bright either (possible bankrupt would affect HEL, OSL and CPH as well).
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:32 pm

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If the trend of declining pax volume at ARN continues for the rest of the year, the total pax volume may be 25,5 Mio (-5%) at ARN. HEL might see 22 Mio passengers this year. Hence, ARN would have only 3.5 million passengers more compared to HEL. In 2017, the difference was about 7.7 million.


HEL is all alone but how are the other three airports in the Stockholm region doing in 2019? The same trend? Year 2018 numbers:

ARN 26,9m +1,1%

BMA 2,5m -1,1%
NYO 2,2m +4,0%
VST 122k -6,7%
 
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Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:49 pm

Check-in.dk says SAS will present new livery next week on Thursday, Sep 19.

It could be something like this but personally I'd like to see a more creative and unique livery. This is like LOT and Lufthansa combined with SAS' colors.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:19 pm

Seems like CPH is on a roll. CSA will be launching daily PRG-CPH-KEF flights onboard their B738.

Pretty odd add to be honest.

OK502 PRG1805 – 1925CPH2010 – 2235KEF 738 D
OK503 KEF0425 – 0830CPH0915 – 1040PRG 738 D

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -oct-2019/
 
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Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:27 pm

Blerg wrote:
Seems like CPH is on a roll. CSA will be launching daily PRG-CPH-KEF flights onboard their B738.

Pretty odd add to be honest.

OK502 PRG1805 – 1925CPH2010 – 2235KEF 738 D
OK503 KEF0425 – 0830CPH0915 – 1040PRG 738 D

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -oct-2019/

CSA are the King of odd routes. They also operate PRG-HAM-GOT and they've also operated PRG-BLL-OSL.
However CPH-KEF will be up to 30x weekly this winter with FI, SK and OK operating and that's supposed to be "low-season"
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:06 am

CPH August 2019 statistics

Domestic: 114,409 (-12.4%)
Europe: 2,448,994 (+1.1%)
Intercontinental: 378,618 (+3.6%)
Total: 2,942,021 (+0.8%)

YTD total: 20,496,285 (-0.1%)
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:53 pm

Finnair will start codeshare with LATAM to Sao Paulo and Santiago Chile from their destinations LHR, CDG, MAD, BCN and Milan effective 1.10.2019. Also LATAM codes will be added to AY to Helsinki flights from the aforementioned European airports.
 
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Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:51 pm

JAL seems to do very well on their NRT–HEL route. Based on JAL's booking system's seat map, on September 12 (tomorrow), up to 95.9% of available seats have been sold (one-way). On Friday (Sep 13th), the corresponding figure is 84.6% while on September 24 (Tuesday), it is 93.3%. JAL uses 195-seated 787-9 on HEL–route. Based on the seat map, the majority (if not all) Business Class and Premium Economy seats have been sold, suggesting that there are a lot of business travelers as well (not surprising though). Although the passenger load factor does not always indicate good financial performance, I believe JAL is doing great on that aspect.
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Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:58 am

SAS will add Stockholm/Arlanda-Seville(Sevilla) service from 29 February to 16 May 2020, operating only on Saturdays. Flights will be operated by Airbus A320Neo aircraft.
Schedule:

Feb-Mar:
SK2949 ARN-SVQ 13:25-17:50
SK2950 SVQ-ARN 18:40-22:55

Apr-May:
SK2949 ARN-SVQ 15:00-19:25
SK2950 SVQ-ARN 20:15-00:25+1
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Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:03 am

With Adria Airways' accounts blocked and their bankruptcy about to happen, I wonder if SK might jump in and take over their LJU-CPH route. It seems to be performing quite well, it even has the A319.
 
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Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:38 am

Blerg wrote:
With Adria Airways' accounts blocked and their bankruptcy about to happen, I wonder if SK might jump in and take over their LJU-CPH route. It seems to be performing quite well, it even has the A319.


Likely. Though an insider has told me that Norwegian is also looking at the route.
 
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Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:43 am

aldrigsomandre wrote:
Blerg wrote:
With Adria Airways' accounts blocked and their bankruptcy about to happen, I wonder if SK might jump in and take over their LJU-CPH route. It seems to be performing quite well, it even has the A319.


Likely. Though an insider has told me that Norwegian is also looking at the route.


But Norwegian would have to rely on O&D passengers while SK could carry a great deal of transfers. That said, DY did not have a lot of success in ex-Yugoslavia.
 
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Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:45 am

Sas Coul also use cr9 from regional jet or other subcontractors.
 
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Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:35 pm

And Norwegian has some feed at CPH.

I’ve done OSL-CPH-XXX routings myself with Norwegian
 
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Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:02 pm

Finnair is now recruiting more Japanese-speaking cabin attendants.

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Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:02 pm

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Finnair is now recruiting more Japanese-speaking cabin attendants.

Lentoposti.fi


Their Asian operation is rather impressive. I really like Finnair.
I reckon they'll expand further in Japan.
 
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Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:37 pm

aldrigsomandre wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Finnair is now recruiting more Japanese-speaking cabin attendants.

Lentoposti.fi


Their Asian operation is rather impressive. I really like Finnair.
I reckon they'll expand further in Japan.

Indeed. Next winter, they'll open a route to Sapporo. Finnair is also expected to launch flights to Tokyo Haneda next spring. I would not be surprised if AY served Okinawa in the future.
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Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:53 pm

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Finnair is now recruiting more Japanese-speaking cabin attendants.


Yes, this time based in HEL and to work on short and long haul flights both. This shows Japan sure is Finnair's key market, still. They have had Japan based cabin crew members since the 1980s.

Finnair changed their language requirements for the HEL based cabin crews a couple of years back, fluent Finnish not required any more. Fluency in Swedish was dropped out earlier. General instructions from their website: "Fluency in English is required, fluency in Finnish is highly valued and other language skills are considered an asset." I've understood this has worked fine. Hard to imagine a similar policy at Air France ;)
 
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Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:01 pm

MareBorealis wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Finnair is now recruiting more Japanese-speaking cabin attendants.


Yes, this time based in HEL and to work on short and long haul flights both. This shows Japan sure is Finnair's key market, still. They have had Japan based cabin crew members since the 1980s.

Finnair changed their language requirements for the HEL based cabin crews a couple of years back, fluent Finnish not required any more. Fluency in Swedish was dropped out earlier. General instructions from their website: "Fluency in English is required, fluency in Finnish is highly valued and other language skills are considered an asset." I've understood this has worked fine. Hard to imagine a similar policy at Air France ;)


Japan is definitely one of Finnair's key markets, and having FAs skilled in Japanese surely wouldn't hurt even on onward short-haul connections.

However, I believe the main motivation behind the decision to hire them (and to lax the language requirements) is the fact that they are not really able to attract enough suitable applicants from Finland to the open positions. I've understood that turnover rates have also become more problematic, however that statement should be treated just as a rumor.

It is fairly apparent though that NORRA is currently struggling with staffing issues, as they've had to cancel a few rotations daily in the past couple of weeks without any other apparent logical reason. I don't know whether the shortage is in the cockpit or cabin though, but it seems to affect both ATRs and E-Jets.
 
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Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:55 pm

According to Routes Online, the following DY routes are cut and might not be coming back in winter.

Copenhagen – Amman
Copenhagen – Aqaba
Helsinki – Amsterdam
Helsinki – Dublin
Helsinki – Dubai (Service operated until January 2019 in W18)
Helsinki – Madrid (Service operated until January 2019 in W18)
Helsinki – Prague
Helsinki – Pristina (Seasonal suspension from 29SEP19. This route was suspended in 1Q19 in W18)
Helsinki – Tel Aviv
Rome – Reykjavik Keflavik
Bergen – Prague (Service operated until January 2019 in W18)
Gothenburg – Prague
Gran Canaria/Las Palmas – Bodo
Gran Canaria/Las Palmas – Harstad-Narvik
Gran Canaria/Las Palmas – Tromso
Oslo – Agadir
Oslo – Fuerteventura
Stavanger – Berlin Schoenefeld (Service operated until January 2019 in W18)
Stockholm Arlanda – Agadir
Stockholm Arlanda – Funchal
Stockholm Arlanda – Milan Malpensa
Stockholm Arlanda – Paris Orly
Stockholm Arlanda – Reykjavik Keflavik (Service operated until January 2019 in W18)
Stockholm Arlanda – Skelleftea (Service operated until January 2019 in W18)
Copenhagen – Dublin
Copenhagen – Larnaca
Helsinki – Gdansk
Malaga – Oslo Sandefjord

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-06sep19/

Those are some major cuts. Anyone know what will happen with extra capacity? I know they are also launching some new routes but I don't think it will be enough. Will they be parking some planes?
 
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Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:42 pm

What a pity all those DY cuts, they have brought healthy competition on many of the routes above. I thought HEL-TLV would had been a big hit, not much choices there, high prices.
 
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Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:05 pm

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Those are some major cuts. Anyone know what will happen with extra capacity? I know they are also launching some new routes but I don't think it will be enough. Will they be parking some planes?


Frankly, with DY's financial figures from last winter, I think parking the planes will be the financially more suitable option.

MareBorealis wrote:
What a pity all those DY cuts, they have brought healthy competition on many of the routes above. I thought HEL-TLV would had been a big hit, not much choices there, high prices.


I respect your opinion and agree to some level, but again, with DY's financial figures, I'm not convinced that the competition they bring is necessarily "healthy".

Regarding TLV, one should remember that even for AY the route is rather new, and prior to that it was served only by seasonal weekly charters at best. As an anecdote, I just recently booked a round trip to TLV on AY with only 200€, which I find to be very economical considering the stage length. J upgrades were wide open as well, so flying HEL-TLV-HEL in J for 200€ can't really be sustainable in the long-term, can it?

Although I'm not complaining.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:17 pm

Listen....
Considering the poo poo they are in,
Perhaps they’ve finally realised ..if it don’t make money ...CUT IT...

Wise move for DY I think.

You have to stem the cash flow where it’s bleeding most.
 
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Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:22 pm

EFHK wrote:
I respect your opinion and agree to some level, but again, with DY's financial figures, I'm not convinced that the competition they bring is necessarily "healthy".


Yes, unhealthy business must go. I was just thinking HEL, the airport is well connected, Finnair is doing a good job. But there are relatively few other options, especially the low cost carrriers avoid HEL.
 
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Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:53 pm

To what extent will these cuts affect ARN's numbers?
 
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Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:21 pm

Sichuan Airlines flight 3U8271 has departed for HEL with a seven-minute delay.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:38 pm

Swedish Transport Agency has released passenger numbers for August 2019. I've done a comparison of Aug 2019 versus Aug 2018 - changes are detailed below. I've omitted some airports where the pax numbers looked dubious for one reason or another - e.g. very small sample sizes, Nextjet bankruptcy potentially having an overhang and causing a skew, or routes having being dropped completely. Details of the 3 month period of May-July as a comparison are detailed below

It is clear that the significant decline in domestic passenger numbers is repeated for August 2019, particularly at places like Stockholm, Goteborg and Malmo

ONE month comparison - Aug 2019 v Aug 2018 for DOMESTIC pax
Arlanda -10.9 %
Bromma -8.5 %

Goteborg -14.8 %
Halmstad -6.7 %
Hemavan +37.6 %
Kalmar -9 %
Kiruna -7.8 %
Lulea -7.8 %
Lycksele +30.9 %
Malmo -10.3 %
Pajala +3.8 %
Ronneby -8.3 %
Skelleftea -42.5 %
Sundsvall -16.5 %
Trollhattan -15.8 %
Umea -9.6 %
Vilhelmina +13.8 %
Visby -6.7 %
Vaxjo -15.2 %
Ostersund -5.1 %
Angelholm/Helsingborg -8.4 %
Ornskoldsvik -13.8 %


THREE month comparison - May-July 2019 v May-July 2018 for DOMESTIC pax
davidjohnson6 wrote:
Stats from the Swedish Transport Agency for July 2019 are now out. The likes of SAS, BRA who fly Swedish domestic must be really hurting. Changes for pax numbers on Swedish domestic routes in the period May-July 2019 versus May-July 2018 shown below. If these are sustained in the autumn, something will likely have to change - e.g. frequencies being cut, fares rising, smaller aircraft deployed on routes and PSO contracts being amended

Arlanda -9.3 %
Bromma -8.6 %

Goteborg -13.7 %
Hagfors -18.0 %
Halmstad -10.7 %
Kalmar -9 %
Kiruna -8.3 %
Lulea -4.2 %
Malmo -9 %
Pajala -16.9 %
Ronneby -10.9 %
Skelleftea -39.8 %
Sundsvall -18.5 %
Sveg -6 %
Torsby -26.4 %
Trollhattan -22.6 %
Umea -6 %
Visby -8.6 %
Vaxjo -17.7 %
Ostersund -10.3 %
Helsingborg -5.3 %
Ornskoldsvik -13.5 %
 
JCCLAG
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:47 pm

15% for Gothenburg, that is very much.
 
Blerg
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:42 pm

That's some serious drop in passenger numbers. Are airlines reducing flights or are they just selling less tickets on their flights? (domestic Swedish passengers)
 
davidjohnson6
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:28 pm

Blerg wrote:
That's some serious drop in passenger numbers. Are airlines reducing flights or are they just selling less tickets on their flights? (domestic Swedish passengers)


Number of domestic flights at each airport for Aug 2019 v Aug 2018
Arlanda -7.5 %
Bromma -4.6 %

Goteborg -10.4 %
Halmstad -5.9 %
Hemavan +7.4 %
Kalmar -0.6 %
Kiruna -6.8 %
Kramfors +4.1 %
Kristianstad +11.6 %
Lulea -7.9 %
Lycksele -19 %
Malmo -14.2 %
Pajala unchanged
Ronneby -5.3 %
Skelleftea -49.4 %
Sundsvall -38.5 %
Sveg -23.5 %
Torsby -20.6 %
Trollhattan -2.2 %
Umea -18.8 %
Vilhelmina - 3.9 %
Visby -3.2 %
Vaxjo unchanged
Ostersund -5.7 %
Angelholm/Helsingborg -10.3 %
Ornskoldsvik -2.4 %
 
MartijnNL
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:09 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
Sichuan Airlines flight 3U8271 has departed for HEL with a seven-minute delay.

Estimated arrival time is 05.28 local, thirty minutes ahead of schedule, four hours and twenty minutes from now.
 
Bostrom
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:17 pm

Blerg wrote:
That's some serious drop in passenger numbers. Are airlines reducing flights or are they just selling less tickets on their flights? (domestic Swedish passengers)


BRA is getting rid of their Avros and SAS is using smaller planes. Stockholm-Sundsvall used to be flown by 737s, now there is mostly ATRs on the route (although that is probably an extreme example).
 
Bostrom
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:22 pm

davidjohnson6 wrote:
Swedish Transport Agency has released passenger numbers for August 2019. I've done a comparison of Aug 2019 versus Aug 2018 - changes are detailed below. I've omitted some airports where the pax numbers looked dubious for one reason or another - e.g. very small sample sizes, Nextjet bankruptcy potentially having an overhang and causing a skew, or routes having being dropped completely. Details of the 3 month period of May-July as a comparison are detailed below

It is clear that the significant decline in domestic passenger numbers is repeated for August 2019, particularly at places like Stockholm, Goteborg and Malmo

ONE month comparison - Aug 2019 v Aug 2018 for DOMESTIC pax
Arlanda -10.9 %
Bromma -8.5 %

Goteborg -14.8 %
Halmstad -6.7 %
Hemavan +37.6 %
Kalmar -9 %
Kiruna -7.8 %
Lulea -7.8 %
Lycksele +30.9 %
Malmo -10.3 %
Pajala +3.8 %
Ronneby -8.3 %
Skelleftea -42.5 %
Sundsvall -16.5 %
Trollhattan -15.8 %
Umea -9.6 %
Vilhelmina +13.8 %
Visby -6.7 %
Vaxjo -15.2 %
Ostersund -5.1 %
Angelholm/Helsingborg -8.4 %
Ornskoldsvik -13.8 %


The big drop for Skellefteå can probably partly be explained by Norwegian cancelling their ARN-SFT route in january this year.
 
Blerg
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:07 am

So what's the reason for this drop? Why are there so many fewer passengers? Are people switching to trains or was market artificially stimulated through too much competition?
 
YIMBY
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:46 am

Blerg wrote:
So what's the reason for this drop? Why are there so many fewer passengers? Are people switching to trains or was market artificially stimulated through too much competition?


Sweden has made huge investments in their railway network. I cannot say if the current trains can be described as luxury, but previously the trains were a misery.
 
HELFAN
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:49 am

Sorry if this has been discussed earlier, but does anyone know the reason why there is no competition on the HEL-BRU route. Finnair has had monopoly on the route for years and prices are very high compared to other similar routes. Now that Finland is chairing EU, European Commission issued an official instruction to the officials that they should avoid Finnair whenever possible on that route because the prices are so high. There is also a substantial Finnish community living in Brussels area due to EU. I'm wondering why there aren't any other airlines interested. Brussels Airlines and Blue 1 did fly the route but long time ago.

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