BAeRJ100 wrote:There are rumours swirling of Q400's by mid-year, plus the introduction (or rather, RE-introduction - hint, hint) of Ejets at one of the regional airlines.
qf2048 wrote:BAeRJ100 wrote:There are rumours swirling of Q400's by mid-year, plus the introduction (or rather, RE-introduction - hint, hint) of Ejets at one of the regional airlines.
This has got me intrigued. All I can think of is Cobham. Don't forget how it worked out for Jetgo..
I'd love to see Airnorth expand into southern NSW. Maybe take on some of those old Jetgo routes? Think FC are doing okay with the Saabs.
NTLDaz wrote:qf2048 wrote:BAeRJ100 wrote:There are rumours swirling of Q400's by mid-year, plus the introduction (or rather, RE-introduction - hint, hint) of Ejets at one of the regional airlines.
This has got me intrigued. All I can think of is Cobham. Don't forget how it worked out for Jetgo..
I'd love to see Airnorth expand into southern NSW. Maybe take on some of those old Jetgo routes? Think FC are doing okay with the Saabs.
This is intriguing- I took RE to possibly mean Regional Express. Bit extreme but they need to start thinking of SAAB replacements soon
I fly ZL regularly and the 340's are getting old. An E-jet may work on their heavier trafficked routes. I fly them to ONG 5 or 6 times a year. Has anyone else on here ever flown to ONG ?
NTLDaz wrote:qf2048 wrote:BAeRJ100 wrote:There are rumours swirling of Q400's by mid-year, plus the introduction (or rather, RE-introduction - hint, hint) of Ejets at one of the regional airlines.
This has got me intrigued. All I can think of is Cobham. Don't forget how it worked out for Jetgo..
I'd love to see Airnorth expand into southern NSW. Maybe take on some of those old Jetgo routes? Think FC are doing okay with the Saabs.
This is intriguing- I took RE to possibly mean Regional Express. Bit extreme but they need to start thinking of SAAB replacements soon
I fly ZL regularly and the 340's are getting old. An E-jet may work on their heavier trafficked routes. I fly them to ONG 5 or 6 times a year. Has anyone else on here ever flown to ONG ?
qf2048 wrote:NTLDaz wrote:qf2048 wrote:This has got me intrigued. All I can think of is Cobham. Don't forget how it worked out for Jetgo..
I'd love to see Airnorth expand into southern NSW. Maybe take on some of those old Jetgo routes? Think FC are doing okay with the Saabs.
This is intriguing- I took RE to possibly mean Regional Express. Bit extreme but they need to start thinking of SAAB replacements soon
I fly ZL regularly and the 340's are getting old. An E-jet may work on their heavier trafficked routes. I fly them to ONG 5 or 6 times a year. Has anyone else on here ever flown to ONG ?
If you mean OAG then that would be a yes for me. Last ZL flight form there broke down before even departing. Locals call them REX because they recks you plans..
QF754 wrote:NTLDaz wrote:qf2048 wrote:This has got me intrigued. All I can think of is Cobham. Don't forget how it worked out for Jetgo..
I'd love to see Airnorth expand into southern NSW. Maybe take on some of those old Jetgo routes? Think FC are doing okay with the Saabs.
This is intriguing- I took RE to possibly mean Regional Express. Bit extreme but they need to start thinking of SAAB replacements soon
I fly ZL regularly and the 340's are getting old. An E-jet may work on their heavier trafficked routes. I fly them to ONG 5 or 6 times a year. Has anyone else on here ever flown to ONG ?
I’m pretty sure the hint is suggesting that a previous E-jet operator is giving consideration to reintroducing the type. That narrows it down to VA, and probably VARA.
Maybe lower lease rates and lower VARA operating costs mean that E-jets are being looked at as a viable long-term replacement for the F100s on regional routes? I read on another thread that JetBlue are due to return a large number of leased E-jets from 2020 onwards as new A220s are delivered...
NTLDaz wrote:qf2048 wrote:NTLDaz wrote:
This is intriguing- I took RE to possibly mean Regional Express. Bit extreme but they need to start thinking of SAAB replacements soon
I fly ZL regularly and the 340's are getting old. An E-jet may work on their heavier trafficked routes. I fly them to ONG 5 or 6 times a year. Has anyone else on here ever flown to ONG ?
If you mean OAG then that would be a yes for me. Last ZL flight form there broke down before even departing. Locals call them REX because they recks you plans..
Nope defo ONG.
QF754 wrote:NTLDaz wrote:qf2048 wrote:This has got me intrigued. All I can think of is Cobham. Don't forget how it worked out for Jetgo..
I'd love to see Airnorth expand into southern NSW. Maybe take on some of those old Jetgo routes? Think FC are doing okay with the Saabs.
This is intriguing- I took RE to possibly mean Regional Express. Bit extreme but they need to start thinking of SAAB replacements soon
I fly ZL regularly and the 340's are getting old. An E-jet may work on their heavier trafficked routes. I fly them to ONG 5 or 6 times a year. Has anyone else on here ever flown to ONG ?
I’m pretty sure the hint is suggesting that a previous E-jet operator is giving consideration to reintroducing the type. That narrows it down to VA, and probably VARA.
Maybe lower lease rates and lower VARA operating costs mean that E-jets are being looked at as a viable long-term replacement for the F100s on regional routes? I read on another thread that JetBlue are due to return a large number of leased E-jets from 2020 onwards as new A220s are delivered...
smi0006 wrote:QF754 wrote:NTLDaz wrote:
This is intriguing- I took RE to possibly mean Regional Express. Bit extreme but they need to start thinking of SAAB replacements soon
I fly ZL regularly and the 340's are getting old. An E-jet may work on their heavier trafficked routes. I fly them to ONG 5 or 6 times a year. Has anyone else on here ever flown to ONG ?
I’m pretty sure the hint is suggesting that a previous E-jet operator is giving consideration to reintroducing the type. That narrows it down to VA, and probably VARA.
Maybe lower lease rates and lower VARA operating costs mean that E-jets are being looked at as a viable long-term replacement for the F100s on regional routes? I read on another thread that JetBlue are due to return a large number of leased E-jets from 2020 onwards as new A220s are delivered...
Lol; at a stretch, wasn’t REX originally Hazelton- who operated Bandeirante‘s so whilst not E-jets they were Embraers?
But seriously would be amazed if VA picked some up. Whilst the lower costs of VARA make sense (do they still own Skywest, who operate VARA? Or is VARA rebranded skywest?) surely that must raise questions why they weren’t moved to VARA previously?
Could Cobham take some over some cheap ones to replace QFLinks 717s?
With regard to Q400s have QF maxes out the utilisation of theirs? Do they need more, maybe replace the 300s?
On a sidenote what’s happening to the VA ATRs parked in NSN in NZ? Are they being returned to lease, operation or sold?
qf789 wrote:smi0006 wrote:QF754 wrote:
I’m pretty sure the hint is suggesting that a previous E-jet operator is giving consideration to reintroducing the type. That narrows it down to VA, and probably VARA.
Maybe lower lease rates and lower VARA operating costs mean that E-jets are being looked at as a viable long-term replacement for the F100s on regional routes? I read on another thread that JetBlue are due to return a large number of leased E-jets from 2020 onwards as new A220s are delivered...
Lol; at a stretch, wasn’t REX originally Hazelton- who operated Bandeirante‘s so whilst not E-jets they were Embraers?
But seriously would be amazed if VA picked some up. Whilst the lower costs of VARA make sense (do they still own Skywest, who operate VARA? Or is VARA rebranded skywest?) surely that must raise questions why they weren’t moved to VARA previously?
Could Cobham take some over some cheap ones to replace QFLinks 717s?
With regard to Q400s have QF maxes out the utilisation of theirs? Do they need more, maybe replace the 300s?
On a sidenote what’s happening to the VA ATRs parked in NSN in NZ? Are they being returned to lease, operation or sold?
Skywest was rebranded VARA after VA purchased Skywest.
I have heard interesting things regarding VA's F100's replacements. To say the least some may go quicker than some may think and they could be replaced by something unexpected
RyanairGuru wrote:To be fair I also assumed that you meant OAG.
After you insisted it was ONG I had to Google it. Certainly an interesting destination! For those who are equally confused ONG is Mornington Island Airport in the Gulf of Carpentaria (and is indeed a ZL destination)
qf2048 wrote:BAeRJ100 wrote:There are rumours swirling of Q400's by mid-year, plus the introduction (or rather, RE-introduction - hint, hint) of Ejets at one of the regional airlines.
This has got me intrigued. All I can think of is Cobham. Don't forget how it worked out for Jetgo..
smi0006 wrote:But seriously would be amazed if VA picked some up. Whilst the lower costs of VARA make sense (do they still own Skywest, who operate VARA? Or is VARA rebranded skywest?) surely that must raise questions why they weren’t moved to VARA previously?
Could Cobham take some over some cheap ones to replace QFLinks 717s?
QF754 wrote:I’m pretty sure the hint is suggesting that a previous E-jet operator is giving consideration to reintroducing the type. That narrows it down to VA, and probably VARA.
NTLDaz wrote:[]
This is intriguing- I took RE to possibly mean Regional Express. Bit extreme but they need to start thinking of SAAB replacements soon
I fly ZL regularly and the 340's are getting old. An E-jet may work on their heavier trafficked routes. I fly them to ONG 5 or 6 times a year. Has anyone else on here ever flown to ONG ?
RyanairGuru wrote:NTLDaz wrote:qf2048 wrote:If you mean OAG then that would be a yes for me. Last ZL flight form there broke down before even departing. Locals call them REX because they recks you plans..
Nope defo ONG.
To be fair I also assumed that you meant OAG.
After you insisted it was ONG I had to Google it. Certainly an interesting destination! For those who are equally confused ONG is Mornington Island Airport in the Gulf of Carpentaria (and is indeed a ZL destination)
Ryanair01 wrote:Does anybody know what happened with the Virgin 'meltdown' in Sydney this week?
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/i-expected-it-to-be-busy-but-wow-delays-at-sydney-airport-due-to-fog-20190102-p50p6i.html
I'm always cynical about these type of stories, but queuing out the door like that suggests something went pretty badly wrong.
qf789 wrote:Ryanair01 wrote:Does anybody know what happened with the Virgin 'meltdown' in Sydney this week?
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/i-expected-it-to-be-busy-but-wow-delays-at-sydney-airport-due-to-fog-20190102-p50p6i.html
I'm always cynical about these type of stories, but queuing out the door like that suggests something went pretty badly wrong.
VA had put out on social media that morning that delays were expected in both SYD and MEL as it was going to be particularly busy. The flight referenced in the article being VA555 was delayed for operational reasons. On top of that VA had to deal with a A332 at the wrong port after the red eye from PER diverted to MEL due to the fog in SYD. VA555 was operated by the inbound aircraft from HKG, with it only having just under 2 hours ground time, turning it around and add in it needed to be towed which could have been delayed to ATC it was an uphill battle to get the flight out of time. The displaced aircraft in MEL was ferried to SYD to operate the HKG flight which ended up with about a 3hr delay.
VHOGU wrote:Does anyone know why PR Q400’s are flying into BNE?
NTLDaz wrote:qf789 wrote:Ryanair01 wrote:Does anybody know what happened with the Virgin 'meltdown' in Sydney this week?
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/i-expected-it-to-be-busy-but-wow-delays-at-sydney-airport-due-to-fog-20190102-p50p6i.html
I'm always cynical about these type of stories, but queuing out the door like that suggests something went pretty badly wrong.
VA had put out on social media that morning that delays were expected in both SYD and MEL as it was going to be particularly busy. The flight referenced in the article being VA555 was delayed for operational reasons. On top of that VA had to deal with a A332 at the wrong port after the red eye from PER diverted to MEL due to the fog in SYD. VA555 was operated by the inbound aircraft from HKG, with it only having just under 2 hours ground time, turning it around and add in it needed to be towed which could have been delayed to ATC it was an uphill battle to get the flight out of time. The displaced aircraft in MEL was ferried to SYD to operate the HKG flight which ended up with about a 3hr delay.
On top of those challenges the biggest issue is the fact it was the busiest day of the year in the busiest terminal in Australia. Doesn't take much to go wrong for chaos to ensue in those circumstances. Terminal 2 is not big enough ground side for the amount of people who go through it.
smi0006 wrote:NTLDaz wrote:qf789 wrote:
VA had put out on social media that morning that delays were expected in both SYD and MEL as it was going to be particularly busy. The flight referenced in the article being VA555 was delayed for operational reasons. On top of that VA had to deal with a A332 at the wrong port after the red eye from PER diverted to MEL due to the fog in SYD. VA555 was operated by the inbound aircraft from HKG, with it only having just under 2 hours ground time, turning it around and add in it needed to be towed which could have been delayed to ATC it was an uphill battle to get the flight out of time. The displaced aircraft in MEL was ferried to SYD to operate the HKG flight which ended up with about a 3hr delay.
On top of those challenges the biggest issue is the fact it was the busiest day of the year in the busiest terminal in Australia. Doesn't take much to go wrong for chaos to ensue in those circumstances. Terminal 2 is not big enough ground side for the amount of people who go through it.
Could be over dramatic article but those photos seem telling. Seems like VA didn’t get their resourcing right - they had deployed additional curb side Checkin counters at one point. However opening all counters, and having staff roaming around handing out bottled water would have reduced a lot of that angst. New Years shouldn’t have surprised them, and they should have planned for potential disruptions.
I wonder what the arrangement is in SYD around infrastructure- why does VA not have more Checkin kiosks and any Auto bag drops? They have only just installed some in MEL. Their bag drop transaction time is woeful, I with no staff to handle kiosk issues. Perth was done years ago and flows so well! Not to mention QF did it maybe 10years ago? I do hope we see some major investment in this terminal to expand Checkin.
SACL seem to be eternal dreamers and planners, never wanting to invest as they don’t want to invest in technology or infrastructure that isn’t future proof - but are so slow they simply can’t keep up on any front and are perpetually evaluating!
There isn't really room for automated bag drops. They have to share the terminal with Jetstar, Tiger, Rex and Fly Pelican. They really need their own terminal like QF has.
moa999 wrote:No reason Syd Airport can't introduce common automated check-in and bag drop facilities
waoz1 wrote:Friend is currently on QF9
Last night in Perth apparently a few passengers were offloaded due to weight restrictions. She was one of them but was able to get a seat due to work commitments.
Were offerend Perth-Singapore-London in business if they went two days later.
Any ideas why it might be the case?
More fuel?
qf789 wrote:smi0006 wrote:QF754 wrote:
I’m pretty sure the hint is suggesting that a previous E-jet operator is giving consideration to reintroducing the type. That narrows it down to VA, and probably VARA.
Maybe lower lease rates and lower VARA operating costs mean that E-jets are being looked at as a viable long-term replacement for the F100s on regional routes? I read on another thread that JetBlue are due to return a large number of leased E-jets from 2020 onwards as new A220s are delivered...
Lol; at a stretch, wasn’t REX originally Hazelton- who operated Bandeirante‘s so whilst not E-jets they were Embraers?
But seriously would be amazed if VA picked some up. Whilst the lower costs of VARA make sense (do they still own Skywest, who operate VARA? Or is VARA rebranded skywest?) surely that must raise questions why they weren’t moved to VARA previously?
Could Cobham take some over some cheap ones to replace QFLinks 717s?
With regard to Q400s have QF maxes out the utilisation of theirs? Do they need more, maybe replace the 300s?
On a sidenote what’s happening to the VA ATRs parked in NSN in NZ? Are they being returned to lease, operation or sold?
Skywest was rebranded VARA after VA purchased Skywest.
I have heard interesting things regarding VA's F100's replacements. To say the least some may go quicker than some may think and they could be replaced by something unexpected
smi0006 wrote:QF754 wrote:NTLDaz wrote:
This is intriguing- I took RE to possibly mean Regional Express. Bit extreme but they need to start thinking of SAAB replacements soon
I fly ZL regularly and the 340's are getting old. An E-jet may work on their heavier trafficked routes. I fly them to ONG 5 or 6 times a year. Has anyone else on here ever flown to ONG ?
I’m pretty sure the hint is suggesting that a previous E-jet operator is giving consideration to reintroducing the type. That narrows it down to VA, and probably VARA.
Maybe lower lease rates and lower VARA operating costs mean that E-jets are being looked at as a viable long-term replacement for the F100s on regional routes? I read on another thread that JetBlue are due to return a large number of leased E-jets from 2020 onwards as new A220s are delivered...
Lol; at a stretch, wasn’t REX originally Hazelton- who operated Bandeirante‘s so whilst not E-jets they were Embraers?
But seriously would be amazed if VA picked some up. Whilst the lower costs of VARA make sense (do they still own Skywest, who operate VARA? Or is VARA rebranded skywest?) surely that must raise questions why they weren’t moved to VARA previously?
Could Cobham take some over some cheap ones to replace QFLinks 717s?
With regard to Q400s have QF maxes out the utilisation of theirs? Do they need more, maybe replace the 300s?
On a sidenote what’s happening to the VA ATRs parked in NSN in NZ? Are they being returned to lease, operation or sold?
qf789 wrote:Weather at SYD is causing delays and diversions tonight with many aircraft currently in holds.
Diversions
QF580 PER-SYD diverted to MEL
QR908 DOH-SYD diverted to MEL
QF146 AKL-SYD diverted to MEL
SQ241 SIN-SYD diverted to MEL
QF756 ADL-SYD diverted to CBR
QF2265 LDH-SYD diverted to PPQ
VA958 BNE-SYD diverted to BNE
QF28 SCL-SYD diverted to BNE
QF164 WLG-SYD diverted to BNE
JQ204 AKL-SYD diverted to OOL
VA1558 HVB-SYD diverted to BNE
QF2261 LDH-SYD diverted to PPQ
NZ835 ZQN-SYD diverted to MEL
QF4 HNL-SYD diverted to BNE
QF122 ZQN-SYD diverted to BNE
Just looked at VA556 PER-SYD today, the 737 today was in the air for 5hrs 36 mins, the average for this flight is 3hrs 41 mins, the flight was put into a holding pattern 2 and half hours before landing
There is also a good chance that VA562 PER-SYD which is due to arrive just before the curfew will be diverted.
VapourTrails wrote:Two and a half hours or more on the ground. I assume you can’t use the restroom when the aircraft is on the ground? Yikes.
tullamarine wrote:There isn't really room for automated bag drops. They have to share the terminal with Jetstar, Tiger, Rex and Fly Pelican. They really need their own terminal like QF has.
SYD T2 is operating way above the capacity it wa designed for when AN opened it nearly 20 years ago. It is felt most acutely at landside check-in and security but the terminal does struggle. There was a plan at one stage of doing an airside link between T3 and T2 which would potentially reduce congestion as some airlines could use the T3 check-in hall. Nothing has come of this; maybe it will change at the end of the QF lease of T3 at which time their exclusivity over that terminal will end and will probably move to a priority gate arrangement similar to what VA has in T2.
qf789 wrote:Ryanair01 wrote:Does anybody know what happened with the Virgin 'meltdown' in Sydney this week?
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/i-expected-it-to-be-busy-but-wow-delays-at-sydney-airport-due-to-fog-20190102-p50p6i.html
I'm always cynical about these type of stories, but queuing out the door like that suggests something went pretty badly wrong.
VA had put out on social media that morning that delays were expected in both SYD and MEL as it was going to be particularly busy. The flight referenced in the article being VA555 was delayed for operational reasons. On top of that VA had to deal with a A332 at the wrong port after the red eye from PER diverted to MEL due to the fog in SYD. VA555 was operated by the inbound aircraft from HKG, with it only having just under 2 hours ground time, turning it around and add in it needed to be towed which could have been delayed to ATC it was an uphill battle to get the flight out of time. The displaced aircraft in MEL was ferried to SYD to operate the HKG flight which ended up with about a 3hr delay.
VapourTrails wrote:qf789 wrote:Weather at SYD is causing delays and diversions tonight with many aircraft currently in holds.
Diversions
QF580 PER-SYD diverted to MEL
QR908 DOH-SYD diverted to MEL
QF146 AKL-SYD diverted to MEL
SQ241 SIN-SYD diverted to MEL
QF756 ADL-SYD diverted to CBR
QF2265 LDH-SYD diverted to PPQ
VA958 BNE-SYD diverted to BNE
QF28 SCL-SYD diverted to BNE
QF164 WLG-SYD diverted to BNE
JQ204 AKL-SYD diverted to OOL
VA1558 HVB-SYD diverted to BNE
QF2261 LDH-SYD diverted to PPQ
NZ835 ZQN-SYD diverted to MEL
QF4 HNL-SYD diverted to BNE
QF122 ZQN-SYD diverted to BNE
Just looked at VA556 PER-SYD today, the 737 today was in the air for 5hrs 36 mins, the average for this flight is 3hrs 41 mins, the flight was put into a holding pattern 2 and half hours before landing
There is also a good chance that VA562 PER-SYD which is due to arrive just before the curfew will be diverted.
Thank you for that list - add to that OL855 diverted to CBR. Interesting evening. These weather events for late 2018 into 2019 are becoming far more frequent it seems? To not get caught up in one is a bonus when travelling.![]()
Pax have taken to social media to vent/share their experiences. Two and a half hours or more on the ground. I assume you can’t use the restroom when the aircraft is on the ground? Yikes.
Source: https://mobile.twitter.com/neighbour_s/ ... gr%5Etweet
Source: https://mobile.twitter.com/Capitan_Typo ... gr%5Etweet
Source: https://www.flightradar24.com
bunumuring wrote:suggested to me that QantasLink will gain some more ex-Jetstar A320s by the end of this year and that the QF narrow body replacement decision won't be made until 2020 at the earliest.
An767 wrote:Looking on Flightradar QF have a flight Syd- Sin QF83 looks like it operates Fri, Sat &Sun. Is this a seasonal flight or permanent addition? Its a lot of seats with QF 81 & QF 1 daily. bearing in mind they don't have the SQ feed at the Sin end .
qf789 wrote:An767 wrote:Looking on Flightradar QF have a flight Syd- Sin QF83 looks like it operates Fri, Sat &Sun. Is this a seasonal flight or permanent addition? Its a lot of seats with QF 81 & QF 1 daily. bearing in mind they don't have the SQ feed at the Sin end .
Its only seasonal, the aircraft was freed up since PER-JNB didn't go ahead