Qantas16 wrote:LurveBus wrote:Qantas16 wrote:
They are often stopped in DVO on their MNL-SYD route, so the XLR would remove that unscheduled stop. They also could launch MEL with the A321XLR, moving the A330 elsewhere.
MNL-SYD is supposed to receive the 321 on a seasonal basis only. For Y passengers, there may be not much difference, but W passengers might get pissed that they lose their cabin, and J flyers love to complain about aisle access. If they’re gonna send the 321 there full-time, they might as well give it a premium product that matches their widebodies. That would reduce density and payload, too.
Do you have a source that the A321Neo to SYD was only meant to ever be seasonal only, because that was not my understanding. Also, operating 10-14x weekly A321neo vs 7x weekly A330/A350 means that PR is able to not only provide pax more options but also means they can get both SYD-LHR traffic and also SYD-Japan/Korea traffic ( as well as SYD-MNL/Domestic traffic). So whilst the product may not be quite as good, it provides more options to pax. The PR A321Neo already has quite a low density layout, so I'm not sure how much lower density it needs to go. Also, is there significant demand for W on the SYD-MNL leg? Generally, W sold ex-Australia is primarily to North America, not a big market for PR ex-SYD.
PAL Introduced Premium Economy between MNL-SYD only in 2017 with the Tri-class A330 Then in 2018 the A321neo operated along the A330 for a few months before going fully with the A21N. PAL has been planning to increase frequency in SYD for quite a while so they can provide better provide connectivity between MNL-LHR. So far PAL continue to offer PE to MEL and AKL respective though they did consider using the A21N in MEL though I've heard rumors that it wasn't able to flight direct to MEL due to payload restrictions and had to do refuel stop at DVO.
While yes there A21N is in a low-density configuration its plusible to maintain either 162 or 168 seats even if there is W cabin if PAL went with the Cabin Flex. TAP A321LR is a good example as it has the same as PAL A321neo though TAP has more J seats and W cabin.