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carlokiii wrote:PR's 5th A350 has rolled out off the paint shop featuring the "Love Bus" kiss mark.
Source: @Airbus on Twitter
PR77W wrote:Well not surprised that it is more of a nose art then a special livery
Zephyrhills wrote:Reports have cited sales of up to a 40% stake, any speculation on who the other investor(s) may be?
Thehouyhnhnm wrote:
docjowl wrote:Quick clarification from PAL re: ANA entry
https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/01/23 ... c-investor
"PAL has always been open to the possibility of a strategic investor. As of date, there is no definite agreement between PAL and any investor," the airline said in a disclosure.
Hmmm.. interesting developments
SCFlyer wrote:Star Alliance procedures IIRC requires all members to unanimously vote in any potential new members.
The question is will SQ, TG, BR vote in favour of PR in if NH tries to sponsor PR into the Star Alliance? May there be a surprise 'veto' from an airline in a different region?
Although if it's only one airline 'veto-ing' and the rest of the Star Alliance group wanted the member in, the sole veto-ing airline would be under heavy pressure.
PR77W wrote:SCFlyer wrote:Star Alliance procedures IIRC requires all members to unanimously vote in any potential new members.
The question is will SQ, TG, BR vote in favour of PR in if NH tries to sponsor PR into the Star Alliance? May there be a surprise 'veto' from an airline in a different region?
Although if it's only one airline 'veto-ing' and the rest of the Star Alliance group wanted the member in, the sole veto-ing airline would be under heavy pressure.
Would like to point up that ANA Holding already owns a minority stake in VN and there members of sky team. So wouldn't yet hold my breath if PAL will join Star.
docjowl wrote:Quick clarification from PAL re: ANA entry
SleeplessInZh wrote:Dear God, please let Emirates invest in Philippine Airlines! As the 2nd final investor.Amen
Or Qatar Airways,or the Casino in Manila (that makes millions of dollars in profits/no sangley airport). Amen
Akiestar wrote:Looks like SGL may be coming online soon: it's scheduled to open in October, and PR will move all turboprop operations there from CRK.
azyazy wrote:Anybody here heard the rumors/gossips with RSA buying 2P from LTG and will be rebranding it back to Air Philippines?
Akiestar wrote:Why would Lucio Tan want to sell part of PR back to San Miguel, especially considering what happened the last time they invested?
azyazy wrote:Anybody here heard the rumors/gossips with RSA buying 2P from LTG and will be rebranding it back to Air Philippines?
azyazy wrote:Anybody here heard the rumors/gossips with RSA buying 2P from LTG and will be rebranding it back to Air Philippines?
PR77W wrote:azyazy wrote:Anybody here heard the rumors/gossips with RSA buying 2P from LTG and will be rebranding it back to Air Philippines?
I have also heard about this rumor couldn't find any sources online. However I have to also question how this will benefit LTG since GAP operates most of PAL domestic flights with the exception of CEB, DVO and GES. if this push through will PAL once again takeover domestic operations once more, and if RSA bought GAP will they just focus on MPH?
With so many questions however I wouldn't dismissed this rumor unless LTG or RSA offically release any statement about this rumors.
idp5601 wrote:azyazy wrote:Anybody here heard the rumors/gossips with RSA buying 2P from LTG and will be rebranding it back to Air Philippines?
Not true, at least according to Arianespace (who is generally a very good source for insider info) - although he says RSA is negotiating for PR to move their operations to Bulacan if/when it is opened.PR77W wrote:azyazy wrote:Anybody here heard the rumors/gossips with RSA buying 2P from LTG and will be rebranding it back to Air Philippines?
I have also heard about this rumor couldn't find any sources online. However I have to also question how this will benefit LTG since GAP operates most of PAL domestic flights with the exception of CEB, DVO and GES. if this push through will PAL once again takeover domestic operations once more, and if RSA bought GAP will they just focus on MPH?
With so many questions however I wouldn't dismissed this rumor unless LTG or RSA offically release any statement about this rumors.
If this did actually happen, they could always sign a code-sharing agreement so PAL can focus on domestic trunk routes while the hypothetical spun-off PALex/Air Philippines can focus on the rest.
Devilfish wrote:Akiestar wrote:Looks like SGL may be coming online soon: it's scheduled to open in October, and PR will move all turboprop operations there from CRK.
What's the status of the proposed Sangley Boulevard road widening project that's supposed to be the main access to SGL![]()
http://www.dpwh.gov.ph/dpwh/PPP/projs/Cavitex_Sangley
http://www.dpwh.gov.ph/dpwh/sites/defau ... angley.jpg
http://cdn.ibtimes.ph/sites/ph.ibtimes. ... r2uyee.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7469/2830 ... 6972_c.jpg
Devilfish wrote:Is there really no relief on the horizon
Devilfish wrote:One thing that interests me most with this collaboration was the statement of PR's president linked in #68 above.....
Quote:
"Bautista said having a large strategic partner was nevertheless beneficial for PAL and its goals to expand globally and to boost profitability.
'Airline margins now are very low so for an airline to be profitable, you really need to reduce costs,' Bautista said. He explained that PAL could tap its partner and enter into joint purchasing agreements to win more favorable terms."
I read that to mean "new aircraft for starting upcoming long-haul routes".....and there seems to be only two suitable candidates within the limits of PR's purse..........
https://d3fod5fkpt74ph.cloudfront.net/e ... 57b302.jpg
This could be a tightly contested tender...small size notwithstanding.![]()
Devilfish wrote:I read that to mean "new aircraft for starting upcoming long-haul routes".....and there seems to be only two suitable candidates within the limits of PR's purse..........
https://d3fod5fkpt74ph.cloudfront.net/e ... 57b302.jpg
This could be a tightly contested tender...small size notwithstanding.
And to answer my own question upthread.....![]()
idp5601 wrote:Considering that we're talking about NH here, I'm assuming any potential for PR taking advantage of their new partner's favourable deals to get more long-haul planes would involve Boeing aircraft.
SkyHigher wrote:B789 is likely to be chosen by PAL (finally) for some long haul expansion but this should be done for routes outside MNL like CRK and CEB. I don't see A338 to be the best aircraft for PAL on long haul, despite commonality to the existing A333.
docjowl wrote:Very interesting concluding statements from CAPA after putting things in perspective:
docjowl wrote:"an extremely attractive slot portfolio at congested Manila, reflects the challenges PAL faces"
Devilfish wrote:idp5601 wrote:Considering that we're talking about NH here, I'm assuming any potential for PR taking advantage of their new partner's favourable deals to get more long-haul planes would involve Boeing aircraft.
Not exclusively...for sure, both airframers would get an even chance to tender. To wit..... viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1414183
idp5601 wrote:I was referring more to long-haul planes, and NH doesn't seem to have any plans to buy any long-haul/widebody Airbus aside from the A380 at the moment anyway.
PR77W wrote:Speaking of RFI CEB is looking to double its wide-body fleet by the 2020s. Delivery is expected to be either late-2020 or in 2021. Possible candidates are either the Airbus A330neo or the Boeing 787 Dreamliners.
PR77W wrote:Speaking of RFI CEB is looking to double its wide-body fleet by the 2020s.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... fi-455422/
Delivery is expected to be either late-2020 or in 2021. Possible candidates are either the Airbus A330neo or the Boeing 787 Dreamliners.
b777900 wrote:ANY new destinations out of CEB besides NGO or new Western Airlines??? Could PR try CEB-HNL?
idp5601 wrote:On another note, someone on another aviation forum I follow is saying that some Boeing reps are going to travel to the Philippines this month to pitch the 777X to PR.
Devilfish wrote:idp5601 wrote:On another note, someone on another aviation forum I follow is saying that some Boeing reps are going to travel to the Philippines this month to pitch the 777X to PR.
If ever, I doubt PR would go bigger than the 778...........