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BLR Airport handled 33.5 million passengers in calendar year 2018.

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DEL at #7 & BLR at #13.

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[quote="sand26391"]BLR Airport handled 33.5 million passengers in calendar year 2018.

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Interesting pictures
Will this allow BLR to even have terminal 3 facing the second runway ?
 
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:09 pm

^^ Yes, there will be a T3 which as of now has been planned BEHIND TAJ hotel (which is also undergoing expansion). AFAIK T3 is ~15-20MPPA terminal.
 
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:20 pm

BLR Airport 2018 pax numbers= 32,329,888
BLR DEC 2018 pax= 3,063,567.
Enters the 3 million pax/month for the very 1st time & also becomes the 3rd airport to enter the 30MPPA mark.
 
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:40 pm

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BLR Airport 2018 pax numbers= 32,329,888
BLR DEC 2018 pax= 3,063,567.
Enters the 3 million pax/month for the very 1st time & also becomes the 3rd airport to enter the 30MPPA mark.

Do you have the bifurcated data of domestic and international pax?
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:39 pm

^^ Not yet.
 
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Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:22 am

India’s 1st walk-in airport aviary at Bengaluru Airport.

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"As per the concept plan, main aviary will house overall free ranging birds. The species will include pelicans, calaos, lorikeets, flamingos, hornbills, toucans, macaw, parrot, cockatoos apart from several others."

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Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:15 pm

From the A.Net LOT Polish thread earlier today, Jan 15th

<<FYI, WAW-DEL is now oficially announced by Lot and available for booking. First flight is scheduled for 17 Sep 2019. Frequency is 5x a week.>>

IGI’s Wiki page also reflects this. Another one-stop route predominantly for traffic to Western Europe and North America?
 
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Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:38 pm

DSFTEBMNZ wrote:
From the A.Net LOT Polish thread earlier today, Jan 15th

<<FYI, WAW-DEL is now oficially announced by Lot and available for booking. First flight is scheduled for 17 Sep 2019. Frequency is 5x a week.>>

IGI’s Wiki page also reflects this. Another one-stop route predominantly for traffic to Western Europe and North America?


LO has also announced additional flights and seats to North America, I am sure they are targeting Indian travellers as well. LO is generally quite affordable and they offer and ok product.
 
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Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:16 pm

So well according to Fernandez the new Bombay airport would be inaugurated by Late 2019 or Early 2020. Well according to me it won't be completed anytime before 2022.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india ... 92771.html
 
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Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:40 am

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So well according to Fernandez the new Bombay airport would be inaugurated by Late 2019 or Early 2020. Well according to me it won't be completed anytime before 2022.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india ... 92771.html

Well, look at Istanbul! It would have been fully opened on the 95th Turkish Republic Day (29 October) but it is running 5 months late now.
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Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:01 am

Here's the LO schedule to DEL:

LO071 WAW2240 – 0900+1DEL 788 x14
LO072 DEL1115 – 1545WAW 788 x25

How does this schedule compare to its competitors?
 
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Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:13 am

Blerg wrote:
Here's the LO schedule to DEL:

LO071 WAW2240 – 0900+1DEL 788 x14
LO072 DEL1115 – 1545WAW 788 x25

How does this schedule compare to its competitors?

I'm not aware of what LOT's North American departure bank looks like in terms of departing WAW - but most international airlines (East & West bound) depart DEL between 0000 and 0600. Flights with a possibility of onward EU/NA connection(s) around this time include UA, OZ, AC, AF, SU, AI, 9W, LH, LX, KU, CA, KL, BA, QR, AZ, EK, EY, IG, TK.

Around the time LO departs there's just a handful including Ethiopian (if you want to count that as a EU/NA connector), Emirates, Finnair, the 11am British Airways, Jet Airways and Virgin Atlantic (both towards 1300 and after, but offer connections).

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Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:17 am

CollegeAviator wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Here's the LO schedule to DEL:

LO071 WAW2240 – 0900+1DEL 788 x14
LO072 DEL1115 – 1545WAW 788 x25

How does this schedule compare to its competitors?

I'm not aware of what LOT's North American departure bank looks like in terms of departing WAW - but most international airlines (East & West bound) depart DEL between 0000 and 0600. Flights with a possibility of onward EU/NA connection(s) around this time include UA, OZ, AC, AF, SU, AI, 9W, LH, LX, KU, CA, KL, BA, QR, AZ, EK, EY, IG, TK.

Around the time LO departs there's just a handful including Ethiopian (if you want to count that as a EU/NA connector), Emirates, Finnair, the 11am British Airways, Jet Airways and Virgin Atlantic (both towards 1300 and after, but offer connections).

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Thanks, here are some of LO's long-haul departures:

16.40 ORD
16.45 JFK
16.45 LAX (three weekly)
17.05 YYZ
17.30 EWR (three weekly)
 
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Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:20 am

Blerg wrote:
CollegeAviator wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Here's the LO schedule to DEL:

LO071 WAW2240 – 0900+1DEL 788 x14
LO072 DEL1115 – 1545WAW 788 x25

How does this schedule compare to its competitors?

I'm not aware of what LOT's North American departure bank looks like in terms of departing WAW - but most international airlines (East & West bound) depart DEL between 0000 and 0600. Flights with a possibility of onward EU/NA connection(s) around this time include UA, OZ, AC, AF, SU, AI, 9W, LH, LX, KU, CA, KL, BA, QR, AZ, EK, EY, IG, TK.

Around the time LO departs there's just a handful including Ethiopian (if you want to count that as a EU/NA connector), Emirates, Finnair, the 11am British Airways, Jet Airways and Virgin Atlantic (both towards 1300 and after, but offer connections).

CA


Thanks, here are some of LO's long-haul departures:

16.40 ORD
16.45 JFK
16.45 LAX (three weekly)
17.05 YYZ
17.30 EWR (three weekly)

So westbound connections are about 1hr to just over 2 hrs, eastbound connections are north of 9 hours....
 
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Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:15 am

CollegeAviator wrote:
Blerg wrote:
CollegeAviator wrote:
I'm not aware of what LOT's North American departure bank looks like in terms of departing WAW - but most international airlines (East & West bound) depart DEL between 0000 and 0600. Flights with a possibility of onward EU/NA connection(s) around this time include UA, OZ, AC, AF, SU, AI, 9W, LH, LX, KU, CA, KL, BA, QR, AZ, EK, EY, IG, TK.

Around the time LO departs there's just a handful including Ethiopian (if you want to count that as a EU/NA connector), Emirates, Finnair, the 11am British Airways, Jet Airways and Virgin Atlantic (both towards 1300 and after, but offer connections).

CA


Thanks, here are some of LO's long-haul departures:

16.40 ORD
16.45 JFK
16.45 LAX (three weekly)
17.05 YYZ
17.30 EWR (three weekly)

So westbound connections are about 1hr to just over 2 hrs, eastbound connections are north of 9 hours....


The 22.00 departure is typical of their overnight flights which connect from their European network. Maybe North America isn't their top priority?
 
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Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:56 am

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Slash787 wrote:
So well according to Fernandez the new Bombay airport would be inaugurated by Late 2019 or Early 2020. Well according to me it won't be completed anytime before 2022.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india ... 92771.html

Well, look at Istanbul! It would have been fully opened on the 95th Turkish Republic Day (29 October) but it is running 5 months late now.


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Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:32 pm

DGCA has come out with guidelines for operating A320neo aircraft with PW engines

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Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:03 pm

Go Air announces Kannur (CNN) - Muscat (MCT)

Flights begin effective 28th Feb 2019 | 3 times a week | Winter Schedule

Flight G8 55 CNN-MCT - 2145 hrs | 0005 hrs TUE, THU, SAT
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Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:13 pm

US Bangla starts Chennai to Chittagong and Dhaka from 31st March. Also, there have been rumors of ANA launching Chennai to Tokyo Narita from W19.
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:23 am

Reality bites: IndiGo shelves plans to operate flights to Europe for now. Istanbul will be launched soon
https://m.economictimes.com/industry/tr ... 578701.cms
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:18 am

Neo AOG update:

Go Air A320neo VT-WGS which was grounded in August has resumed flying. VT-WGJ, another aircraft that was grounded in August remains out of action.
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:37 am

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Reality bites: IndiGo shelves plans to operate flights to Europe for now. Istanbul will be launched soon
https://m.economictimes.com/industry/tr ... 578701.cms

While I applaud 6E's ambitions to fly medium-haul, I think this illustrates the problems all operators in India will face flying LCC medium-haul. RPKs will be pretty low for the target market, there is likely to be a significant seasonality and there will be customer relations issues stemming from catering and other amenities. It would perhaps be wise of 6E to setup a proper transfer hub within short-haul ranges of all the target cities in India. Again, I am not convinced that the new ISL airport authorities would look forward to having a 6E transfer hub at ISL if they are not feeding into short-haul into Europe.
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:43 am

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Again, I am not convinced that the new ISL airport authorities would look forward to having a 6E transfer hub at ISL if they are not feeding into short-haul into Europe.

That is where the newly signed codeshare agreement with TK comes into play. There will be multiple daily flights to ISL on IndiGo and TK will fly the pax to points across EU and NA.
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:48 am

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Reality bites: IndiGo shelves plans to operate flights to Europe for now. Istanbul will be launched soon
https://m.economictimes.com/industry/tr ... 578701.cms


I think it would be smarter for Indigo to fly to even smaller airports like LCY where competitions are relatively less or commence FSC type services at attractive prices to capture competing traffic. IMO, it is good for them dropping LCC long haul operations for now under current circumstances
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:45 am

IndiGo will operate its first scheduled A321neo flight on DEL-GOI on 20JAN19
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:01 pm

Going by the a.net prevailing theory that 9W is on its last legs, how many slots 9W has at BLR? Would Indigo pickup all those slots?
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:41 pm

Sandeep will have the exact number. I have heard some rumours that IndiGo is talking to lessors to induct additional A320s to capture the slots in anticipation of Jet vacating them.
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:49 pm

unrave wrote:
devmapper wrote:
Again, I am not convinced that the new ISL airport authorities would look forward to having a 6E transfer hub at ISL if they are not feeding into short-haul into Europe.

That is where the newly signed codeshare agreement with TK comes into play. There will be multiple daily flights to ISL on IndiGo and TK will fly the pax to points across EU and NA.


I thought the bilateral only allows for 2 flights each per day. So if by multiple you mean 2, then ok. TK already flies DEL-IST and offers the cheapest fares. I don't see how Indigo offers anything competitive. Now if they started flights from AMD, HYD, CCU ok - at least it is a new market. 90% of the time I look for US or EU-BOM fares TK is right there at the bottom wrt fare price. If they launch DEL-IST, I hope they at least fly a totally different time and offer pax choice.
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:59 pm

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I thought the bilateral only allows for 2 flights each per day. So if by multiple you mean 2, then ok. TK already flies DEL-IST and offers the cheapest fares. I don't see how Indigo offers anything competitive. Now if they started flights from AMD, HYD, CCU ok - at least it is a new market. 90% of the time I look for US or EU-BOM fares TK is right there at the bottom wrt fare price. If they launch DEL-IST, I hope they at least fly a totally different time and offer pax choice.

2 flights per day is the current limit. Current regulations allow bilaterals to be expanded when the Indian side utilization crosses 80%, so that should not be a constraint
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:08 pm

Has IndiGo stated when they plan on starting the sale of their IST flights? I have a feeling these flights won't happen before summer.
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:17 pm

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That is where the newly signed codeshare agreement with TK comes into play. There will be multiple daily flights to ISL on IndiGo and TK will fly the pax to points across EU and NA.

It's a good start, nevertheless, 6E must look to increase the number of codeshare destinations as soon as possible
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:28 pm

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I think it would be smarter for Indigo to fly to even smaller airports like LCY where competitions are relatively less or commence FSC type services at attractive prices to capture competing traffic. IMO, it is good for them dropping LCC long haul operations for now under current circumstances

Surely you mean LGW, or LTN or perhaps LHR? LCY runways are so small only one commercially available aircraft (A318) tanked up to the maximum and reduced weight to carry mostly J class passengers can take off from LCY. Even the LCY-JFK flight at roughly 3500nm has to make a fuel stop in SNN westbound. The only Indian city that might possibly have traffic to afford fares to LCY would be BOM at roughly 4500nm.
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:35 pm

devmapper wrote:
unrave wrote:
That is where the newly signed codeshare agreement with TK comes into play. There will be multiple daily flights to ISL on IndiGo and TK will fly the pax to points across EU and NA.

It's a good start, nevertheless, 6E must look to increase the number of codeshare destinations as soon as possible

The current bilateral will not allow enough passengers to require many more destinations. It looks like 6E might partner with QR, this will open up destinations.

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Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:06 pm

Some writer's hypothetical scenario of the two ailing Indian carriers as a merged entity.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/blogs/et-commentary/jai-jet-air-india-anyone/
 
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Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:13 pm

Indigo Airlines starts bookings for Kannur - Kuwait (CNN-KWI) and Kannur- Doha (CNN-DOH)

Kannur- Doha :

CNN DOH | Flight # 6E 1715 | Timings 19.05 - 21.05 | 7 days a week DOH CNN | Flight # 6E 1716 | Timings 22.05 - 04.40 | 7 days a week

Kannur - Kuwait :

CNN KWI | Flight # 6E 1755 | Timings 05.10 - 08.00 | 6 days a week KWI CNN | Flight # 6E 1756 | Timings 09.00 - 16.05 | 6 days a week
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:05 am

Are these Kannuar-Doha and Kuwait flights operated by the same aircraft?
 
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Unlikely. The aircraft will be swapped with another at either KWI or DOH
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:22 am

IndiGo to report Q3 results on 23JAN19. I expect IndiGo to be the only Indian airline to report a (small) profit this quarter.
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:08 pm

Jet Airways is scheduled to increase flights to IXC from BOM and DEL by one frequency each from 31MAR19. These will be the first flights to make use of the newly installed night landing facilities at IXC
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:20 pm

Will Indigo start flights to IST by March?
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:27 pm

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Will Indigo start flights to IST by March?

It is unlikely to happen by March. I expect it to start sometime later in SS19
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:28 pm

Did they postpone the launch?
 
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Did they postpone the launch?

There was no date announced for the launch. We know nothing beyond the codeshare agreement.
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:01 pm

And what about the landing rights at GYD and TBS? What will come of that?
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And what about the landing rights at GYD and TBS? What will come of that?

The last I heard about London flights is that they have been shelved for now. Perhaps we'll get better clarity on 23rd.
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:20 pm

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I thought the bilateral only allows for 2 flights each per day. So if by multiple you mean 2, then ok. TK already flies DEL-IST and offers the cheapest fares. I don't see how Indigo offers anything competitive. Now if they started flights from AMD, HYD, CCU ok - at least it is a new market. 90% of the time I look for US or EU-BOM fares TK is right there at the bottom wrt fare price. If they launch DEL-IST, I hope they at least fly a totally different time and offer pax choice.

2 flights per day is the current limit. Current regulations allow bilaterals to be expanded when the Indian side utilization crosses 80%, so that should not be a constraint


There is no such rule that the GOI would automatically grant new frequencies when 80% are used - see DXB. There is no need for the GOI tho grant Turkey more flights since there is no O&D. Indigo flying 2 A321 is already a joke compared to TK’s 2 X 77W. Indigo will eventually be able to fly to EU nonstop without the need of IST. The fact that Indigo isn’t targeting AMD and ATQ is rather shocking to me given people in those cites make it seem like they are high yielding business markets that deserve long haul flights. That said, I hope the LCCs get their act together (and cities like AMD continue to grow) to start these flights.
 
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:31 pm

CaliguyNYC wrote:
unrave wrote:
CaliguyNYC wrote:
I thought the bilateral only allows for 2 flights each per day. So if by multiple you mean 2, then ok. TK already flies DEL-IST and offers the cheapest fares. I don't see how Indigo offers anything competitive. Now if they started flights from AMD, HYD, CCU ok - at least it is a new market. 90% of the time I look for US or EU-BOM fares TK is right there at the bottom wrt fare price. If they launch DEL-IST, I hope they at least fly a totally different time and offer pax choice.

2 flights per day is the current limit. Current regulations allow bilaterals to be expanded when the Indian side utilization crosses 80%, so that should not be a constraint


There is no such rule that the GOI would automatically grant new frequencies when 80% are used - see DXB. There is no need for the GOI tho grant Turkey more flights since there is no O&D. Indigo flying 2 A321 is already a joke compared to TK’s 2 X 77W. Indigo will eventually be able to fly to EU nonstop without the need of IST. The fact that Indigo isn’t targeting AMD and ATQ is rather shocking to me given people in those cites make it seem like they are high yielding business markets that deserve long haul flights. That said, I hope the LCCs get their act together (and cities like AMD continue to grow) to start these flights.


Limiting foreign airlines is one thing but why would the Indian government limit IndiGo's access to Turkey? Why do they care if TK adds more flights as long as IndiGo does as the same. I am sure after DEL more cities will be added.

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